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  1. Profile photo of akabane
    akabane Male 18-29
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    December 19, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    Link: Imagine, If Israel Occupies London, Then? - Well, we saw one one-sided video. Let`s be fair and show the other side.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2011 at 9:28 pm
    Well quit bombing the place everyday, and maybe you`ll get more equality.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2011 at 9:28 pm
    what is the point of these vids? NO ONE, will change their damn minds because even if they know one side is kicking the crap outta the other they are okay with it because why not, they are only subhuman arabs.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    December 19, 2011 at 9:29 pm
    Maybe if the Palestinians didn`t use ambulances to to transport weapons and suicide bombers, they wouldn`t have this problem.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2011 at 9:29 pm
    auburnjunky

    holy crap, I knew that BS answer would pop up but that was quicker than I thought! I see the media has done its job with you red neck.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 19, 2011 at 9:31 pm
    And the reason for all that security is because the palestinians kept blowing up school bus`s, public transports, weddings, or just suicide bombers in crowded stores.

    And we`re supposed to feel sorry for the "poor downtrodden" palestinians? Not in this life.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2011 at 9:35 pm
    Aim your ill informed vitriol elsewhere. You are the minority in this post.
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    paperduck Male 18-29
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    December 19, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    Gerry you support collective punishment? so you`re okay with yourself being lumped in with a worst in your group?
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
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    December 19, 2011 at 10:56 pm
    THe only time I will agree with Gerry. They in Palestinian schools they teach them to hate Jews and Americans. They don`t want their own land, they want the Jews gone. out of the entire world population of Palestinians, about 3.5 mil live in "Palestine". 1.5 mil live in Israel. 500,000 in the US and less then a 1,000 in the Arab states around Israel. Palestinians are not even a race. It`s an area. It`s like being a New Yorker. Most Palestinians are Arab.
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    Maximer Male 18-29
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    December 19, 2011 at 11:13 pm
    Gerry1of1,

    Tell me, what would you do if a foreign force invaded your homeland and told you that you cannot live there any longer? Would you listen like a coward or would you fight?

    And furthermore, not every Palestinian is a terrorist. Many Palestinians find these terrorists disgusting. But, it seems like for most it is easier to lack cognitive dissonance than it is to form any thought different than what is popular at the time.

    Read a book people. It is right in the history books. Morons.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    December 19, 2011 at 11:28 pm
    Perhaps if the Palestinians were to accept that the country is now Israel and they were no longer in charge, (and maybe even stopped blowing things up!) then they could be treated better. It`s been this way for quite awhile, and while I wouldn`t be happy if America was invaded, but eventually you either have to move or accept your new government/country.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    December 20, 2011 at 12:13 am
    @TheShgn2 There`s no end to the level if stupidity in your statement. `Oh sorry you`re a conquered people, just submit and everything will be fine.`

    Israel is only a nation because right wing religious nutjobs gave it to them hoping it would hasten the second coming. Now I think it`s time we took it back and gave it to its rightful owners.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 12:13 am
    One of Ron Paul`s political campaign ads had a similar message: This one, LINKY.

    Let`s blow the conversation wide open. Put your shoe on the other foot, whether that foot be American, Israeli, Palestinian, or for that matter Northern Ireland (where I grew up).

    It`s a useful mental exercise to try to posit yourself in the other person`s shoes. Not taking sides, just saying, food for thought.
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    DrSunday Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 12:38 am
    I end up looking at these vids with mild amusement. So what do we have here? The bad guys are soldiers. Soldiers are usualy stationed at border crossings between different politicaly controlled areas. In this case, between a country and an area inside that country that is governed by a mostly hostile organization and demands independance, with the sorounding country`s constant support. An organization that spent tons of money on armed training, and not a bit on building a hospital. hmm.. But yes, it`s wrong that the soldiers behave like this to the normal citizens. It`s also wrong that some of those normal citizens pull a knife/gun/bomb/try to run them over. And they know that if they`ll let a hostile pass through, their fellow soldiers, or their brother, cousin, someone they went to school with, or just some other guy who did nothing wrong, will get hurt. It`s a shame the small person suffers.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 20, 2011 at 2:07 am
    Ask yourself why this is.

    Is it possible that palestinians have used injured people as a `ruse` to get car bombs through checkpoints ? Yeah, it has happened, more than once.

    Is it possible that the palestinian authority has squandered the international aid it gets on more and guns and ammunition, instead of supplying their own hospitals and clinics ? Yes, they do.

    Is it possible that some areas are so violent there that even the Red Crescent ambulances won`t go there anymore ? Yes, add a lot of gunfire, rockets being fired, ruined buildings, and masked gunmen with their own checkpoints and you might be getting a video that`s closer to the real truth.
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 3:27 am
    You do realize, Crakrjak, that the Israel today is a concoction of the United Nations, right? After WWII, the League of Nations decided to take all the "liberated Jews" and create the nation of Israel, and put them there, dejecting the Palestinian people who already lived there. Then, to "make things right", the League of Nations siphoned money to the Jewish government, and helped them build a military to fight off the Palestinian people.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    December 20, 2011 at 3:43 am
    Dejecting the Palestinians? That did not occur until the Palestinians and Arabs decided to choose war over peace.
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    LtotheG Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 4:47 am
    Can`t believe how willfully ignorant some of you are, you will twist logic to any extent to make it conform with your viewpoint, you will see hideous acts performed before your own eyes and justify it to avoid challenging yourselves. This is the very root of bigotry and racism and how the nazi`s got away with what they did. By the way America, no one in the rest of the world apart from white supremicists takes Israels side as ardently as you do.
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    DrSunday Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 4:47 am
    Right. This conversation just gets me pissed. Which means the Palestinian propoganda worked. If you really want to use History, Samsquanch, try and look back a bit further. You talk as if there were no jews in the area before 1948.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 4:59 am
    one one-sided propaganda video for each side doesn`t balance it out, it just makes everyone less informed about the reality of the situation..
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    LemonCurry Male 40-49
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    December 20, 2011 at 5:06 am
    Didn`t we all learn in kindergarden that the "It`s his fault! - No, it`s his fault!" approach doesn`t work?
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    December 20, 2011 at 5:34 am
    #antagonizer
    Israel has owned the land for 70 years now, and the West Bank for around 30. After that much time, they`re no longer a conquered people. None of the Palestinians fighting now were even born when Israel wasn`t in charge.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 5:50 am
    "Aim your ill informed vitriol elsewhere. You are the minority in this post."
    Oh auburnjunky what a great example of democracy. In any case auburnjunky and other zionists here, in IAB ,if a minority exist here is you. But we never try to stop your arguments sayng you are just a countless minority. You know what? Also Jews are a minority in the Middle east area so for your logic they must count nothing. Isreali army is a crime army no matter how many tons of bullsh.its you try to use to cover the truth, facts speaks himselves.
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    patticakes Female 18-29
    463 posts
    December 20, 2011 at 6:10 am
    Maybe if the so-called Palestinians (actually they are Arabs) stopped lobbing missiles into Israel and sending their won children with bomb belts, the Israelis would be able to trust them and not need all those check points. This is a problem of their own making. Maybe if all Muslim countries around Israel stopped promising to destroy Israel, there would be fewer check points. Nice try for a propaganda piece, but ridiculous nonetheless.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 6:12 am
    @Piper: They aren`t a minority in Israel, their rightful homeland.

    Palestine was never a country, it was a province of nomadic Arabs, so named by the Romans. They are trying to take a land that was never theirs to begin with.

    Also, if they would try to do so peacefully, there would be no issues. Instead, they resort to violence and terror, and vow to wipe all the jews from the Earth. Didn`t another group try to do that a while back?
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 6:40 am
    Their "rightful homeland"? When Israel was created in 1947 less than 1/3 of the population was Jewish.

    "They are trying to take a land that was never theirs to begin with."

    Before 1947 only 7% of the land was owned by the Jewish population. They`re the ones who took the land that was never theirs to begin with.

    "Also, if they would try to do so peacefully, there would be no issues. Instead, they resort to violence and terror"

    And I suppose the Israeli`s are a peace loving nation who would never resort to violence to get their way? Just because you`re wearing a military uniform doesn`t make you any less of a terrorist.

    Did you ever stop to think that maybe if the Palestinian people were treated like human beings then the terrorists amongst them would have a lot less support?
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    Mister_C Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 6:56 am
    I make it a policy never to swear at or shove anyone wearing a helmet carrying a machine gun.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 7:22 am
    Then? Mabey the brits would put them in camps and spray them down with DDT like they did after WW2. Oh they leave that out of your history classes???
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    furrything Male 50-59
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    December 20, 2011 at 7:39 am
    Hey! Leave the Israelis out of it! They`re LOVELY!!!
    Good production values on this film, and good acting, too.
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    December 20, 2011 at 7:55 am
    I liked the idea of moving a foreign situation into a familiar setting to create impact. The movie was ell-executed and acted, but I found it lacked the pace or tension to keep me interested.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 8:17 am
    Think of a time more than 3000 years ago. The Jews were there.

    in `47, they got their country BACK.
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 8:46 am
    Auburn Junky, do you hope the native americans get their land BACK? oh, it wasnt mandated by god, so no then? or it hasnt been 3,000 years yet, so they havent earned it? in `47 they got a land that was never theirs, because they never lived there before, (mostly). should i lay claim italy, because of my italian-catholic heritage?
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    kingofall Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 9:06 am
    mcgovern, that was 65 years ago, any idea what your government is doing in Guantanamo bay this very instant. They try to keep that quiet too dont they.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    December 20, 2011 at 9:24 am
    @TheShgn2 Again with the stupid statements. You don`t think there are 30 year old Palestinians let alone 70, 80, 90? Well maybe not since israel has been systematically and methodically trying to eradicate them.

    It`s funny but you`re defending their actions which are a direct reflection of what was done to them by Adolf and his boys.

    I`m not an anti-Semite, but can see how easy it is to become one when they possess the will and ability to become a nation of criminals.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    December 20, 2011 at 11:03 am
    Maybe if he said please.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 11:36 am
    @imnakdjumpme:

    There is a difference. They are allowed to live wherever they please, without fear of death, or beatings.

    Jews were there first. Just sayin`.
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    Regardless of whether they deserved the state or not, Isreal is now a jewish state and what the people in power inflict on their own residents is tyrannical and disgusting. Treating many of them as second class citizens or worse, particularly in gaza.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    "Instead, they resort to violence and terror"

    A technique which the Jews basically taught them when the Zionist terrorist groups used it to push out the British and create Israel in the first place. Israel`s first two Prime Ministers had ties to these groups. I`m not saying it`s right, but the success of Israel showed all its neighbors that such tactics could be effective.
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    Bremir Male 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    Right. I don`t understand this video. Am I supposed to feel bad for the guy at the end?

    I`d have smacked him in the face with the gun as well if he pushed me.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    I`ll admit it: after having watched both videos with equal interest and an honestly unbiased perspective, (I never really thought much about either side of the issue) I`m siding with the Israelis on this one. Palestinians can move.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    and which country stones gay people to death and has the death penalty for those who sell land to jews?? Whoops guess that a give away.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    @kingofall

    That`s been anything but quiet try again.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    December 20, 2011 at 3:42 pm
    @akabane (Origional Poster) Notice how one video is based on FACTS, and one is based on FICTION? Ever wonder why that is?

    @paddy215: Hardly any Jews in Israel in 1947? This has been delt with on IAB before: The Ottoman Empire wouldn`t let them own land, and the British wouldn`t let Jews immigrate. Facts buddy, associate yourself with them.

    @imnakdjumpme: Gaza is no longer part of Israel, it is effectively a Palistinian homeland.
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    DSDavis008 Male 13-17
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    December 20, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    Just kick everyone out of the whole area and turn it into an antiwar museum. I know this is a stupid suggestion, but so is whats happening now.
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    leeann591 Female 18-29
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    December 20, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    @evanbartlett Palestinians can move? First of all, it was their country to begin with until the Jews kicked them out to form Isreal in the 20`s. Second, even if they wanted to move out of the country that is rightfully theirs. How do you suppose they are going to do that? Their not allowed to go anywhere or even hold a job without isreali say-so. You think they can just pack a bag and leave?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 20, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    Well the Israelites were basically the first people to ever settle that coast, and they were driven out by the Arabs and the Romans. If you have forgotten, the Israelites eventually became what we know today as the Jews. So, who`s land is it?
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    LemonCurry Male 40-49
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    December 20, 2011 at 7:26 pm
    ”Just kick everyone out of the whole area and turn it into an antiwar museum. I know this is a stupid suggestion, but so is whats happening now.”

    I like this suggestion!

    Alternatively, introducing compulsory homosexuality might help people get along better!
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    December 20, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    Jews comprise 0.3% of the world`s population, yet they have won 22% of all individual Nobel Prizes. Their contributions to science, medicine, art, music, and literature would fill a library.

    Can anyone here name a single accomplishment by a Palestinian Muslim that has made the world a better place?
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    December 21, 2011 at 12:59 am
    @auburnjunky "Well the Israelites were basically the first people to ever settle that coast, and they were driven out by the Arabs and the Romans. If you have forgotten, the Israelites eventually became what we know today as the Jews. So, who`s land is it?"

    Yup and the celts once owned Britain, and Natives once owned America, and the Visigoths, Gallic etc were kicked out by the Romans....

    Lets at least try and keep it to this century k?
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    cybercow Male 30-39
    106 posts
    December 21, 2011 at 5:44 am
    What about this. Muslims are killing people everywhere around the world.

    Muslim Atrocties
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2011 at 5:50 am
    @Antagonizer: You missed the entire point. All of it. You never even touched a portion of it. All of it has been missed.
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    cybercow Male 30-39
    106 posts
    December 21, 2011 at 6:07 am
    Israel is under daily attack from Gaza.

    This video, showing missiles attacking Israel, are a DAILY occurence. Of course, Israel will put up fences to stop these people.

    Israel Under DAILY Missile Attack
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    akabane Male 18-29
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    December 21, 2011 at 9:07 am
    im amazed that you guys denounce the bible and anything els religous, yet you guys claim that israelites were there first. i see a fallacy somewhere.
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    L3ILA Female 18-29
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    December 21, 2011 at 9:19 am
    @OldOllie, are you absolutely kidding me? No accomplished Palestinians? Edward Said has written a plethora of award-winning books. Suheir Hammad won a Tony. Elia Suleiman directed films that premiered at the Cannes. Mahmoud Darwish and Ghassan Kanafani are among the most celebrated writers in the Arab world. And that`s just the tip of the iceberg. Get out of your little bubble and learn about the world you live in. Your racist bigotry and ignorance astounds me.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    December 21, 2011 at 2:17 pm
    @Akabane: Some of the bible is backed up with actual facts, like the archaeological evidence that the Israelites were the first inhabitants of that land.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    December 21, 2011 at 9:49 pm
    @cybercow you`re supporting an apartheid state.
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    grizzledmook Male 18-29
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    December 22, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    @auburnjunky
    the bible also clearly states that they killed the Caananites, so obviously there were inhabitants in that area before them
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    jendrian Male 18-29
    2516 posts
    December 23, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    I didn`t understand, why did the guy who ran over a girl try to get her into a hostile country for medical support? just drive somewhere else friendly buddy. Use your cellphone you`re supposed to be in britain, and call allies, not enemies.

    Now... like many of you here I know little to nothing of the actual conflict, we don`t live there that`s what I`m saying, in either side. What I don`t understand is why the palestinians want that land so fiercely; I understand the jews want it because of religion, but is there anywhere in the Quran about the land of Israel?

    And if there were, couldn`t somebody just "find" a religious text saying "oh sorry, it wasn`t this land it was this other one you`ve been sitting on all along"; it`s not like anybody ever gives a thorough check on religious story authenticity. The rest of the world could just keep quiet about the ruse and have peace in the middle East
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    January 5, 2012 at 8:35 am
    Firdt,Israel doesn`t "Occupy" Palistine. There never was a "Palistine". Secondly,If "Palistine" residents would stop bombing towns and murdering children,maybe they`d be treated better. Just sayin, if you shoot at me,I will not help you do anything but die.

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