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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 6:12 am
    Link: Anonymous On The Defense Authorization Act - The NDAA will give the US Government the right to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial.
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    Revolutioniz Male 18-29
    911 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 8:45 am
    OMG!! annon put out another operation, one which they promise to actually do this time.. perhaps.. idk
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    Muert Male 30-39
    152 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 8:53 am
    From wikipedia: "the final version of the bill drafted by the Senate-House conference committee exempted U.S. citizens from the requirement for terror suspects to be held in military custody and included language stating that the bill did not extend new authority to detain U.S. citizens"
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    RFMITCH1 Male 18-29
    121 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 8:56 am
    So is it today or tomorrow? And what am I supposed to do during operation Blackout?
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    BlazingBird Male 13-17
    98 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:06 am
    It seems like Anonymous is just a name for people to rile up everyone else. Especially aimed at those more "Technologically Enabled".
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    birdawg68 Male 40-49
    132 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:15 am
    10-31 and 10-32 were not included in the NDAA. They were struck out, at least the wording these fella`s say is in there.
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    oldrugger Male 40-49
    5 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:16 am
    "We do not forgive. We do not forget. We do not leave our parent`s basement."
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    Crabes Male 30-39
    1285 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:16 am
    this joke isnt over yet??
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    birdawg68 Male 40-49
    132 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:17 am
    @ RFMITCH1 - Find a helmet then wear the helmet. Oh and grab a flashlight, and a shotgun cause the zombies are also coming. Whats your zombie plan? I just bought a used space shuttle and Ima going to the moon!
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10443 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:21 am
    Boo! Boring. I`ve switched sides on anon until someone can prove that what they do actually has any effect. You can only get so far with DoS attacks.
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
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    December 15, 2011 at 9:22 am
    Muert: You are misconstruing that or Wikipedia misreported it. The language was changed in the final bill at the request of the administration because the original language stated citizens could ONLY be held in military custody. The new language allows both the military and law enforcement to detain US citizens.
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    Muert Male 30-39
    152 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:31 am
    The point being that it is already too late. This bill isn`t changing anything for US citizens.
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
    439 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:32 am
    Not that I believe that they really have the power to wage any significant cyber-attack against the US government, but don`t they realize that if they did, they would only further empower the neo-con ninnies to pass more and more restrictive laws that take away our freedom`s?
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
    1473 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:36 am
    They do have a point.. NDAA is messed up.. Good luck, america...
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    danagamer Male 30-39
    701 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:38 am
    I don`t believe this video was actually created by Anonymous. The things the "quote" from the bill are false. If you care, here`s what the Defense authorization bill states: reaffirms the authority of the administration to detain people found to be associated with al Qaeda, and requires military detention for anyone who plots an attack against the United States. In both cases, the bill does not create any new authority to detain U.S. citizens, ensuring their rights to a fair trial, and the military detention language does exempts U.S. citizens
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 15, 2011 at 9:45 am

    So what`s new? George Bush locked up US citizen Jose Padilla without a trail, no lawyer, no contact with his family for YEARS. The US died years ago. What will surface from it`s carcass I don`t know. Mostly I`m sad no one noticed. The few who did were called nut cases. But I compare the America I grew up in and the one I`m in now, and they are not the same country.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
    509 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:52 am
    Time to turn those watchtowers at the border to face the other direction huh? LOL

    Thank god I wasn`t born in the hahaha `land of the free` hahaha!
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
    1582 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 10:02 am
    Can these anon want-a-be posers knock it off already.
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    FistOfBono Male 18-29
    33 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 10:20 am
    @Dan

    I checked out the bill, and what you`re saying is correct. However, how long do you think it will be before they start associating undesirable citizens with Al Qaeda and detaining them?

    Thankfully I`m Canadian.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Btw, The indefinite detention of Americans something Obama insisted on in that legislation. Link
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    thatjimguy Male 30-39
    458 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 10:53 am
    It`s Anonymous! It MUST be true!

    Seriously, Anon has been hijacked more than OWS.
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
    803 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:00 am
    This is not the America I was taught to love as a young child. When I hear people saying they love their country, all I can think is, "How? How you can you love a country who has so wronged its people, and continues to every day?"
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
    234 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:04 am
    I am losing respect for Anonymous because all their last videos like this did not follow through. Also I didn`t see much help from Anon throughout the OWS saga, not of the hacking variety anyway.

    Let`s see if it happens this time.
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    Ilikelogic Male 40-49
    550 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:05 am
    Well, good luck America.
    You will need it.

    Greetings from Luxemburg
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:15 am
    Vhere are jour papers!!
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
    735 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:24 am
    Hope & Change!
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:52 am
    *Sigh* Everytime something like this comes up I`m reminded of how important a good Civics education is.

    1. This bill passed the House, not the Senate. To become law it must also pass the Senate.
    2. Obama did ask for a different wording of it so as to broaden executive powers-not good, agreed, we have to stop anymore assertions of a unitary executive theory, no matter who it is that does the pronouncing.

    3. And most importantly, it will never pass the courts. Behold the beauty of the Separation of Powers, the ACLU is already prepping a suit.

    Honestly this sort of thing has a tendency to happen in American history, (see the Alien & Sedition Acts for a good example) and then it has a tendency to fail utterly in the long run. Not good, yes, but not an occasion to panic at Defcon 5 either.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:55 am
    @ CJ, If Obama invented it how do you explain Jose Padilla? Not every comment Gerry posts is nonsense.
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
    526 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    that was a useless video. i have no idea when the video was made, so the date could be have been long gone now. there is nothing we can do if it was real, so what`s the point?
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    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    I hear a lot of sabre rattling but no actual action from anonymous, lately.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    wasnt that billed passed the first of this month? why are we just not talking about this :|
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    madest: I didn`t say he `invented it`, once again you assume too much.

    I said Obama insisted on it in this defense bill and threatened to veto it, if the bills wording did not include Americans in it.

    Maybe, you should read my links from time to time, you would`ve known this without me having to tell you.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Was indeed passed in the house. Was under a veto threat from Obama but not about the indefinite detention of Americans. His veto threat was over his perceived meddling in the executive branches powers. He ultimately dropped his objections and has agreed to sign this legislation.
    Don`t kid yourselves, this is huge news. We have a president who desires King-like powers. Our government lies to us at every turn. Imagine if they lock you up because they don`t like what you say? They never have to explain their actions and there would be no recourse. This should frighten every American.
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    Norvinha Female 18-29
    4 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    @photoking

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    madest: The Tea Party was warning of this sort of legislation, and now they are likely to get a bill passed to put up a `great firewall` like the one they have in China, through the Protect IP Act

    So not only will the government be able to shut up people, by indefinitely arresting them, but they`ll be able to erase their entire presence (blogs, facebook, tweets, etc..) from the internet as well.
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    Amurika Male 30-39
    282 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    Yep you`re right Madest, this is complete and blatant fascism.

    Homework
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    KISSsoldier Male 18-29
    18 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    It passed in the Senate tooSenate Passes Bill
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    rebetikas Male 30-39
    213 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    Governments rarely pass laws that limit their power. Depending on how these new laws are interpreted and applied, it may just mean another step closer to a revolution.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    CJ, The teaparty is owned by billionaires who want to rape the land, destroy the environment, pay no taxes and blame our economic situation on our social services.
    Was recently revealed that the core ideas of the patriot act were written by Joe Biden before the Oklahoma bombing happened. Obama extended the patriot act with an auto-pen this past May. SOPA / PIPA now this? I won`t vote for that doesn`t mean I`ll vote republican though. Justice Party?
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    MountainBord Female 18-29
    1894 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    what is operation blackout anyway??
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    tsiemens Male 30-39
    515 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    what will it take for people to take back their nation??
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
    3771 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    do you think this isn`t happening now? how many of the people in gitmo are foreign nationals? NOT ALL OF THEM.
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    MightyPeanut Male 30-39
    411 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 4:40 pm
    Obama has broken every campaign promise he made and now is starting a war on US soil...You are about to lose your country America...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    December 15, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    "what will it take for people to take back their nation??"
    Violence.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 5:20 pm
    Everybody panic!
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 15, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    madest: The teaparty is owned by billionaires who want to rape the land, destroy the environment, pay no taxes and blame our economic situation on our social services.

    No one `owns` the Tea Party, despite the rhetoric you`ve heard. I know who the local and state leaders are, for my state, and I can assure none of them are billionaires.

    As for your ..rape the land, destroy the environment.. accusation, you think anyone that wants to drill for oil domestically, and get us off foreign oil, to be evil.

    That kind of bias needs to be taken with more than just a `grain of salt`, needs more like a dumptruck full.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    December 15, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    When the French started their first revaluation, those that started it where consumed by it.

    The Republicans and its backers, should heed history; they are about to start war on and in the USA, and they WILL be consumed by the war they want and start. Unfortunately Many who want and wish for peaceful resolutions will also be consumed. These individuals have one language; and it`s that of total war.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    you think anyone that wants to drill for oil domestically, and get us off foreign oil, to be evil. --------------
    No I don`t. I have a car. I use electricity. I`m of the opinion we need to do something because scientific consensus says so. Investing in clean energy now beats more drilling. Fracking endangers our ground water supply. The Keystone pipeline will be a 3,000 mile target for terrorists and if a spill does occur the environmental damage will be massive. I got a problem with subsidizing oil. You and the teaparty should too.
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    SunnyNphilly Male 18-29
    645 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 7:04 pm
    does anyone give a f*ck what the computer man says?
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    duffytoler Male 40-49
    5196 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 7:23 pm
    Yak yak yak - all we ever get out of these guys is a bunch of "me too" videos. If they were worth a damn they would catch virus writers or whatever.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
    718 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 9:09 pm
    ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND they didnt do squat.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 15, 2011 at 9:52 pm
    madest: The Keystone pipeline is only one of dozens of oil pipelines, one more is not going to increase the risk of terrorism.

    And let`s look into some of that `clean energy` investing that has ended in utter failure and bankruptcy, like Obama`s pet Solyndra and several others. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been wasted in the name of `clean energy` and we are no closer to that pipedream than we were decades ago.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:21 pm
    Obama already made it clear this bill will be vetoed...although, exactly why is a possibly different story than you might think.

    Anon, if you are going to do something then actually do it this time. you keep saying this and that and never actually follow through anymore.

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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    December 15, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    so, when do we meet to talk revolt?
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    Dedfink Female 18-29
    247 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 1:21 am
    “It is not unfair to make an American citizen account for the fact that they decided to help Al Qaeda to kill us all and hold them as long as it takes to find intelligence about what may be coming next,” remarked Graham. “And when they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them, ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer.’”
    "They should not be read their Miranda Rights. They should not be given a lawyer," Graham said. "They should be held humanely in military custody and interrogated about why they joined al Qaeda and what they were going to do to all of us."

    How did this Graham person ever become a Senator with this type of idealism? The whole basis of the legal system is we are innocent until proven guilty, prove that they are affiliated with Al Qaeda and involved in terrorist activities and then lock them up. I love how terrorism is used as a bullying tactic in politics they throw around the word terrorist in t
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    Dedfink Female 18-29
    247 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 1:23 am
    the lobbying for the bill but don`t actually have that word in the written legislation. Then everyone one votes for the bill because if they don`t they think they look like they are unpatriotic and support terrorism.
    --sorry ran out of room--
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
    792 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 3:29 am
    Uh-oh....the 4chan trolls are riled.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
    3001 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 5:59 am
    yeah, America land of the free!
    I`ll just kick back in the land of the free health care.
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    furrything Male 50-59
    1308 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 7:54 am
    ....the guillotine blades are being sharpened, even as we speak. Most will go to the FEMA camps without a peep. Revolt? I`ve never known sheep to revolt before, and I don`t think it`ll ever happen, either.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 8:24 am
    @ruthless1990

    If you ignore your tax rates ya keep telling yourself it`s free.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    Oh your occupation is listed as a student so you`d know nothing of that.
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    crash665 Male 30-39
    119 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    We`re going to stand around in city parks, not bathe, smoke pot, and trash up the place. We are anonymous. We don`t do anything except make videos. FU. Do SOMETHING or GTFHome.
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    button_guy Male 18-29
    171 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    For all you lazy people out there, "they" (anonymous) represent "us". Saying "they" didn`t do anything ultimately means "You" didn`t do anything. Get off your ass and do something yourself if you want to change anything. Also, I have a VERY hard time believing our own troops, who volunteer their lives to defend this country and it`s people, would ever go about actually throwing us into prisons and creating all out war on U.S. soil. It`s a scare tactic, and it works because of people who complain that "they" should do something. If you`re too lazy and scared to fight back, then they`ve won.

    Quit blaming others for not doing something YOU or WE can do.
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    uatme Male 18-29
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    December 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm
    "those are words, look at the proof" -lol too choppy for me to put that into a context that makes sense
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
    626 posts
    December 16, 2011 at 11:47 pm
    Btw, Obama has taken back his promise to veto it, and it`s already passed the House & Senate. They are directly breaking a constitutional right. I hate to say it, but if we keep going down this road, it can only end in revolt. Sounds a little crazy, but the government will keep pushing until we push back.

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