Anonymous On The Defense Authorization Act

Submitted by: madest 5 years ago

The NDAA will give the US Government the right to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial.
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Male 626
Btw, Obama has taken back his promise to veto it, and it`s already passed the House & Senate. They are directly breaking a constitutional right. I hate to say it, but if we keep going down this road, it can only end in revolt. Sounds a little crazy, but the government will keep pushing until we push back.
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Male 1,083
"those are words, look at the proof" -lol too choppy for me to put that into a context that makes sense
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Male 171
For all you lazy people out there, "they" (anonymous) represent "us". Saying "they" didn`t do anything ultimately means "You" didn`t do anything. Get off your ass and do something yourself if you want to change anything. Also, I have a VERY hard time believing our own troops, who volunteer their lives to defend this country and it`s people, would ever go about actually throwing us into prisons and creating all out war on U.S. soil. It`s a scare tactic, and it works because of people who complain that "they" should do something. If you`re too lazy and scared to fight back, then they`ve won.

Quit blaming others for not doing something YOU or WE can do.
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Male 119
We`re going to stand around in city parks, not bathe, smoke pot, and trash up the place. We are anonymous. We don`t do anything except make videos. FU. Do SOMETHING or GTFHome.
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Male 14,330
Oh your occupation is listed as a student so you`d know nothing of that.
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Male 14,330
@ruthless1990

If you ignore your tax rates ya keep telling yourself it`s free.
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Male 1,397
....the guillotine blades are being sharpened, even as we speak. Most will go to the FEMA camps without a peep. Revolt? I`ve never known sheep to revolt before, and I don`t think it`ll ever happen, either.
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Female 3,001
yeah, America land of the free!
I`ll just kick back in the land of the free health care.
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Male 792
Uh-oh....the 4chan trolls are riled.
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Female 247
the lobbying for the bill but don`t actually have that word in the written legislation. Then everyone one votes for the bill because if they don`t they think they look like they are unpatriotic and support terrorism.
--sorry ran out of room--
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Female 247
“It is not unfair to make an American citizen account for the fact that they decided to help Al Qaeda to kill us all and hold them as long as it takes to find intelligence about what may be coming next,” remarked Graham. “And when they say, ‘I want my lawyer,’ you tell them, ‘Shut up. You don’t get a lawyer.’”
"They should not be read their Miranda Rights. They should not be given a lawyer," Graham said. "They should be held humanely in military custody and interrogated about why they joined al Qaeda and what they were going to do to all of us."

How did this Graham person ever become a Senator with this type of idealism? The whole basis of the legal system is we are innocent until proven guilty, prove that they are affiliated with Al Qaeda and involved in terrorist activities and then lock them up. I love how terrorism is used as a bullying tactic in politics they throw around the word terrorist in t
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Male 2,345
so, when do we meet to talk revolt?
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Male 2,345
Obama already made it clear this bill will be vetoed...although, exactly why is a possibly different story than you might think.

Anon, if you are going to do something then actually do it this time. you keep saying this and that and never actually follow through anymore.

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Male 17,512
madest: The Keystone pipeline is only one of dozens of oil pipelines, one more is not going to increase the risk of terrorism.

And let`s look into some of that `clean energy` investing that has ended in utter failure and bankruptcy, like Obama`s pet Solyndra and several others. Hundreds of billions of dollars have been wasted in the name of `clean energy` and we are no closer to that pipedream than we were decades ago.
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Male 718
ANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNND they didnt do squat.
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Male 5,194
Yak yak yak - all we ever get out of these guys is a bunch of "me too" videos. If they were worth a damn they would catch virus writers or whatever.
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Male 645
does anyone give a f*ck what the computer man says?
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Male 7,378
[quote]you think anyone that wants to drill for oil domestically, and get us off foreign oil, to be evil.[/quote] --------------
No I don`t. I have a car. I use electricity. I`m of the opinion we need to do something because scientific consensus says so. Investing in clean energy now beats more drilling. Fracking endangers our ground water supply. The Keystone pipeline will be a 3,000 mile target for terrorists and if a spill does occur the environmental damage will be massive. I got a problem with subsidizing oil. You and the teaparty should too.
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Male 2,229
When the French started their first revaluation, those that started it where consumed by it.

The Republicans and its backers, should heed history; they are about to start war on and in the USA, and they WILL be consumed by the war they want and start. Unfortunately Many who want and wish for peaceful resolutions will also be consumed. These individuals have one language; and it`s that of total war.
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Male 17,512
madest: [quote]The teaparty is owned by billionaires who want to rape the land, destroy the environment, pay no taxes and blame our economic situation on our social services.[/quote]

No one `owns` the Tea Party, despite the rhetoric you`ve heard. I know who the local and state leaders are, for my state, and I can assure none of them are billionaires.

As for your [quote]..rape the land, destroy the environment..[/quote] accusation, you think anyone that wants to drill for oil domestically, and get us off foreign oil, to be evil.

That kind of bias needs to be taken with more than just a `grain of salt`, needs more like a dumptruck full.
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Male 646
Everybody panic!
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Male 37,888

[quote]"what will it take for people to take back their nation??" [/quote]
Violence.
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Male 411
Obama has broken every campaign promise he made and now is starting a war on US soil...You are about to lose your country America...
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Female 4,086
do you think this isn`t happening now? how many of the people in gitmo are foreign nationals? NOT ALL OF THEM.
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Male 514
what will it take for people to take back their nation??
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Female 1,894
what is operation blackout anyway??
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Male 7,378
CJ, The teaparty is owned by billionaires who want to rape the land, destroy the environment, pay no taxes and blame our economic situation on our social services.
Was recently revealed that the core ideas of the patriot act were written by Joe Biden before the Oklahoma bombing happened. Obama extended the patriot act with an auto-pen this past May. SOPA / PIPA now this? I won`t vote for that doesn`t mean I`ll vote republican though. Justice Party?
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Male 213
Governments rarely pass laws that limit their power. Depending on how these new laws are interpreted and applied, it may just mean another step closer to a revolution.
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Male 18
It passed in the Senate tooSenate Passes Bill
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Male 282
Yep you`re right Madest, this is complete and blatant fascism.

Homework
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Male 17,512
madest: The Tea Party was warning of this sort of legislation, and now they are likely to get a bill passed to put up a `great firewall` like the one they have in China, through the Protect IP Act

So not only will the government be able to shut up people, by indefinitely arresting them, but they`ll be able to erase their entire presence (blogs, facebook, tweets, etc..) from the internet as well.
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Female 4
@photoking

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Male 7,378
Was indeed passed in the house. Was under a veto threat from Obama but not about the indefinite detention of Americans. His veto threat was over his perceived meddling in the executive branches powers. He ultimately dropped his objections and has agreed to sign this legislation.
Don`t kid yourselves, this is huge news. We have a president who desires King-like powers. Our government lies to us at every turn. Imagine if they lock you up because they don`t like what you say? They never have to explain their actions and there would be no recourse. This should frighten every American.
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Male 17,512
madest: I didn`t say he `invented it`, once again you assume too much.

I said Obama insisted on it in this defense bill and threatened to veto it, if the bills wording did not include Americans in it.

Maybe, you should read my links from time to time, you would`ve known this without me having to tell you.
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Male 3,745
wasnt that billed passed the first of this month? why are we just not talking about this :|
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Male 4,746
I hear a lot of sabre rattling but no actual action from anonymous, lately.
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Male 526
that was a useless video. i have no idea when the video was made, so the date could be have been long gone now. there is nothing we can do if it was real, so what`s the point?
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Male 7,378
@ CJ, If Obama invented it how do you explain Jose Padilla? Not every comment Gerry posts is nonsense.
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Female 2,228
*Sigh* Everytime something like this comes up I`m reminded of how important a good Civics education is.

1. This bill passed the House, not the Senate. To become law it must also pass the Senate.
2. Obama did ask for a different wording of it so as to broaden executive powers-not good, agreed, we have to stop anymore assertions of a unitary executive theory, no matter who it is that does the pronouncing.

3. And most importantly, it will never pass the courts. Behold the beauty of the Separation of Powers, the ACLU is already prepping a suit.

Honestly this sort of thing has a tendency to happen in American history, (see the Alien & Sedition Acts for a good example) and then it has a tendency to fail utterly in the long run. Not good, yes, but not an occasion to panic at Defcon 5 either.
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Male 734
Hope & Change!
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Male 14,330
Vhere are jour papers!!
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Male 550
Well, good luck America.
You will need it.

Greetings from Luxemburg
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Male 234
I am losing respect for Anonymous because all their last videos like this did not follow through. Also I didn`t see much help from Anon throughout the OWS saga, not of the hacking variety anyway.

Let`s see if it happens this time.
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Female 803
This is not the America I was taught to love as a young child. When I hear people saying they love their country, all I can think is, "How? How you can you love a country who has so wronged its people, and continues to every day?"
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Male 459
It`s Anonymous! It MUST be true!

Seriously, Anon has been hijacked more than OWS.
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Male 17,512
Btw, The indefinite detention of Americans something Obama insisted on in that legislation. Link
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Male 33
@Dan

I checked out the bill, and what you`re saying is correct. However, how long do you think it will be before they start associating undesirable citizens with Al Qaeda and detaining them?

Thankfully I`m Canadian.
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Male 1,582
Can these anon want-a-be posers knock it off already.
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Male 508
Time to turn those watchtowers at the border to face the other direction huh? LOL

Thank god I wasn`t born in the hahaha `land of the free` hahaha!
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Male 37,888

So what`s new? George Bush locked up US citizen Jose Padilla without a trail, no lawyer, no contact with his family for YEARS. The US died years ago. What will surface from it`s carcass I don`t know. Mostly I`m sad no one noticed. The few who did were called nut cases. But I compare the America I grew up in and the one I`m in now, and they are not the same country.
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Male 701
I don`t believe this video was actually created by Anonymous. The things the "quote" from the bill are false. If you care, here`s what the Defense authorization bill states: reaffirms the authority of the administration to detain people found to be associated with al Qaeda, and requires military detention for anyone who plots an attack against the United States. In both cases, the bill does not create any new authority to detain U.S. citizens, ensuring their rights to a fair trial, and the military detention language does exempts U.S. citizens
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Male 1,471
They do have a point.. NDAA is messed up.. Good luck, america...
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Male 439
Not that I believe that they really have the power to wage any significant cyber-attack against the US government, but don`t they realize that if they did, they would only further empower the neo-con ninnies to pass more and more restrictive laws that take away our freedom`s?
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Male 339
The point being that it is already too late. This bill isn`t changing anything for US citizens.
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Male 439
Muert: You are misconstruing that or Wikipedia misreported it. The language was changed in the final bill at the request of the administration because the original language stated citizens could ONLY be held in military custody. The new language allows both the military and law enforcement to detain US citizens.
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Male 10,440
Boo! Boring. I`ve switched sides on anon until someone can prove that what they do actually has any effect. You can only get so far with DoS attacks.
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Male 5,190
They won`t do it. We all know this already.
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Male 133
@ RFMITCH1 - Find a helmet then wear the helmet. Oh and grab a flashlight, and a shotgun cause the zombies are also coming. Whats your zombie plan? I just bought a used space shuttle and Ima going to the moon!
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Male 1,284
this joke isnt over yet??
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Male 5
"We do not forgive. We do not forget. We do not leave our parent`s basement."
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Male 133
10-31 and 10-32 were not included in the NDAA. They were struck out, at least the wording these fella`s say is in there.
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Male 98
It seems like Anonymous is just a name for people to rile up everyone else. Especially aimed at those more "Technologically Enabled".
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Male 121
So is it today or tomorrow? And what am I supposed to do during operation Blackout?
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Male 339
From wikipedia: "the final version of the bill drafted by the Senate-House conference committee exempted U.S. citizens from the requirement for terror suspects to be held in military custody and included language stating that the bill did not extend new authority to detain U.S. citizens"
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Male 911
OMG!! annon put out another operation, one which they promise to actually do this time.. perhaps.. idk
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Male 7,378
Link: Anonymous On The Defense Authorization Act [Rate Link] - The NDAA will give the US Government the right to detain American citizens indefinitely without trial.
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