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104 Responses to Prius Owner Vs. Diesel Truck Owner: Verbal Warfare

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 7, 2011 at 9:22 am
    Link: Prius Owner Vs. Diesel Truck Owner: Verbal Warfare - Which is spewing more pollution, her mouth or his truck?
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    illios Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:05 am
    ..Meh Prius people...Sorry the car isn`t going to save planet.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:06 am
    Meh.
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    Hoofer Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:09 am
    It`s always the fatties.
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:09 am
    Im going to buy a Prius now.


    Damned viral marketing.
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    Tubby12370 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:15 am
    I hate Fat and ugly Hippies, she has no right to yell at someone for what they drive.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:18 am
    Who`s right? The douchbag prius owner with the big mouth, or the douchbag diesel owner trashing the environment. Both with an inflated sense of entitlement, both should be smacked silly.
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:24 am
    Treehugginlibtardedfattyfatso. The left preaches tolerance but rarely do they practice it.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:25 am
    Where`s a taser when you need one?

    What would she have said if he had pointed out that the PRODUCTION of her Pius (er, Prius)causes more polution that a freakin HUMMER that`s been driven for three times longer!

    antagonizer-" or the douchbag diesel owner trashing the environment"

    Sorry, what he drives is his business and neither you, nor this crazy chick, has any say so in the matter.
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    Stardust6702 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:25 am
    I would have argued that she should lose weight because she is making insurance policies and medical procedures more expensive. You are fat, ugly and obnoxious, everything that people hate about Americans.

    You are making it worse for the rest of us.
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    llefflar Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:34 am
    I suppose she has no idea where the batteries for her car come from...er...ever hear of strip mines.

    Rare Earth Mining Video
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    burbclaver Male 50-59
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:36 am
    What a world!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Every time she opened her mouth I would VROOM-VROOM with the engine. Then I`d laugh as she got madder, and madder.

    Push the buttons.
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    IrishJesus Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:47 am
    What a bitch. Someone needs to remind her that the pedestal can`t hold all that weight.
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    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:48 am
    Typical Liberal..
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:51 am
    @CRAIGJ, No...it`s not. It really isn`t typical for anyone of any politcial leaning to be so confrontational towards another human being in real life.

    Stupid people are just stupid people, and we can leave it at that.
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    pfkdxius Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:53 am
    Wow, what a bitch. I don`t care what you think about the environment, it`s never cool to swear at someone in front of their kids. She stopped her car in the middle of the parking lot and immediately started berating the guy, without even trying to speak to him in a civil manner.
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    pfkdxius Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:55 am
    I can only hope that 4chan finds this lady.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:58 am
    This is what happens when you`re too f*cking ugly to get laid.
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    FistOfBono Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:59 am
    Haha this is awesome. I love when someone buys a Prius and thinks they`re changing the world.

    Here`s the fact of the matter. In one year, a single cow puts out as much methane and CO2 gas as 8 cars. So I eat cows. I do my part.

    Should`ve kept revving the engine over her talking. She would have gone BALLISTIC.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:02 am
    haha Gerry1of1, that`s what I`m gonna do if that situation ever arises. "What? I can`t hear you over all this power, VROOOOOM"
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    FistOfBono Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:03 am
    Haha this is awesome. I love when someone buys a Prius and thinks they`re changing the world.

    Here`s the fact of the matter. In one year, a single cow puts out as much methane and CO2 gas as 8 cars. So I eat cows. I do my part.

    Should`ve kept revving the engine over her talking. She would have gone BALLISTIC.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:03 am
    "Sorry, what he drives is his business and neither you, nor this crazy chick, has any say so in the matter."

    Indeed...and that`s why our environment sucks.
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    GRadde Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:05 am
    >Gerry
    I sincerely hope you end up in this situation, and that you do what you write you`d do. And that you record it and put it here. I`d laugh myself half to death. ^^
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    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:08 am
    @Ruffiana
    OK I will revise my comment to ..Typical Enviromentalist Liberal. An "AL Gorian" if you will.
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    NetRider Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:13 am
    @ Gerry, that explains why you are always revving the engine when i see you.
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    Joolin Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:15 am
    And that, right there, is why our culture still has a stigma against environmentalists. Way to undermine the whole movement, lady...
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:33 am
    And this is why he should have had a harpoon mounted to his truck...
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    Bottleofrum Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:36 am
    too bad this lady doesnt know how much polution was created to make her car
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Stupid people have no clue as to how much pollution is created by nickel mines that are used to make the batteries for fat asses car.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:46 am
    I knew I didn`t want to watch this from the start, I detest people like this. I know I`m supposed to love them, but they make it next to impossible.

    Wait, she has nothing better to do but sit in a parking lot, and pounce on people minding their own damned business. Also, I made it half way, which is farther than I thought I would.
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    swiftkeys Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:59 am
    *Detroit
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    It`s funny to watch two @$$holes giving each other $#!+. A stupid fat chick with her Prius and her holier-than-though attitude and a stupid diesel truck driver who fantasizes that he has a big rig that for some mysterious reason cannot be shut off but needs to sit and idle spewing noxious fumes every time he parks it.

    I hate them both; I hope they end up neighbors in hell.
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    sidewyz8 Female 18-29
    843 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    I love that she only listened to what she wanted and what would help her argument. Like when he mentioned that he had a farm/horses, that`s a good reason to own a truck like that, in my opinion. I`m all for lower emissions and helping the environment and whatnot, but people like her are drating retards.

    Also, I would have loved if this was my family in this situation. I wouldn`t have to say a word, my 2-year-old would be the one to tell her to shut the drat up, in those EXACT words.
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    NILE12 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    They`re both ignorant.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
    570 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    wow. maybe some people get a good deal on a big gas guzzling truck and can`t drop 30k on a fuel efficient tree hugging prius...
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    Winter_ICE_0 Male 13-17
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    I f*cking hate people like this. Strong opinions with little to no information. Welcome to America.
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    Both of these people were huge non-nice individuals. Seriously, why did he sit there and record her and get defensive? Just tell her to move her car and if she doesn`t do it, then go somewhere else. Is it really worth getting into a spat with some moron?

    As for that woman -- she`s a dippoo, who should`ve just moved her car or rolled up her windows, but we already knew that.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Stupid enviro-nazi bitch, YOU DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to insist that someone else drive a vehicle you approve of.
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    Thetas Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    And again I remembered the episode from South Park about "smug" and everyone driving priuses.
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    A Prius polute more then any SUV made
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    I still don`t understand why people choose to pick fights like this instead of just doing their own thing, moving their own selves, etc. Especially when she knows there`s kids around. Though I didn`t like the mom insulting the woman`s appearance right in front of her kid either (making it seem like fat people = bad people etc if the kid`s old enough to understand).
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    Pheeshy5 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    I would have told her to take her fat ass back to her prius and hit the gym. Stupid bitch.
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    trig45 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:17 pm
    made me think of this
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    i05fr3d Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    "BRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM ..... I`m gay" - Jeff Dunham
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    Inter237 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    Cool, she drives a Prius. No need to be a stuck up, fat bitch about it. And I don`t think getting one whiff of some exhaust is any less healthy than the 6k calories she probably has daily.
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    Mike1973 Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    I would have revved the engine up a few times and say "Sorry, can`t hear you...my Detroit diesel is making too much noise"
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    zionred Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    dm274 is right, the actual process in making a Prius actually causes more pollution and wastes more energy than the Diesel truck ever will. Just another snow job by the media-at-large.
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    kinky_afr0 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 1:58 pm
    hehe stupid americans
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    BoredFrank Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    He should have pointed out that her fat ass is responsible for 56 starving Ethiopians.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    I would have pepper sprayed her then had her arrested for menacing.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    LillianDulci-" I didn`t like the mom insulting the woman`s appearance right in front of her kid either"

    She brought it on herself. She`s lucky she didn`t get popped.

    LillianDulci-" making it seem like fat people = bad people"

    And this is different than claiming `people who drive diesel = bad people` how?

    Sadly, the lady in the Prius will never be intelligent enough to realize just how stupid, ignorant and annoying she really is.
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    Faelwen Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    She could`ve easily been written a citation for cursing in front of the children and disturbing the peace. People need to get over themselves.
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    KR_Zanki Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    who let her out of the psychofarm?
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    botfly Male 50-59
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    November 7, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    Mrs,Madest?
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    Cows like her should be slaughtered and fed to starving children.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    November 7, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    Stupid, mean, and ugly. The trifecta of biatches.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    Botfly gets LOL of the day! nice one hahaha my wife would not have been as nice as the wife in this vid, that cow would have cussed once in front of my daughter and by the time she came to we would have been home.
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    Fantom2993 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 4:22 pm
    Owning diesels and living in california, I get to deal with this all the time. If I stop somewhere for just a minute or 2 I leave the engine running. Not because I`m a wanna be big rig, but because starting the engine is was causes the most wear and tear. If it`s more than 5 minutes, I`ll just shut it down.
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    mykunter Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    Holy crap! Do people like that really exist?

    I mean, I see people driving their Priuses... and I`ve heard they can be snotty about it...

    Of course, whenever I`m next to one at a stop light, I like to rev my engine and leave them sitting there when the light turns green as I unleash a smokey, tire shredding burnout.
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    November 7, 2011 at 5:03 pm
    i would`ve revved my engine every time she tried to talk
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 5:11 pm
    THIS is why I drive a Dodge Durango. 13mpg.

    I also cut down trees for the hell of it. Because, you know, I can.

    I also keep my bush axe in my Durango; beside my gun.
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    Ackbar Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    Didn`t South Park make an episode about this?
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 6:02 pm

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    dognose82 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    If anyone is interested the study/report, that has been confirmed in peer review, is called "Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles from Concept to Disposal"

    The report shows that the Ni-Cad batteries produce tonnes Sulfur Dioxide (see acid rain) both during operation and during mining for nickel. In addition the large batteries will cause problems with disposal in the future.

    "Ignorance is bliss" Cypher - The Matrix
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    elkingo-"THIS is why I drive a Dodge Durango. 13mpg."

    Dodge Ram. 14.5 mpg (with a good tailwind).

    Don`t have a Bush axe, but I do have a Crash Axe from a B-52. Keep it behind the seat, though, not near my gun.
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    I got rid of my Expedition which burned 16mpg and bought a Chevy Aveo at 35mpg. I`m actually getting closer to 38 last time I checked which means a smaller ecological footprint.

    A damn sight better than my old douchmobile, and I"m not fooling myself with a hybrid.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 7:45 pm
    If anyone is interested the study/report, that has been confirmed in peer review, is called "Dust to Dust: The Energy Cost of New Vehicles from Concept to Disposal"

    It`s already been debunked. By peer review. It`s full of unreasonable bias designed to support a pre-arranged conclusion.

    Random example: They took 109,000 miles as the lifespan of a Prius before it has to be junked. There`s a 150,000 mile manufacturer`s warranty on most of it.

    Hybrids are far less "green" than advocates and idiots make them out to be, but they are more "green" than massive and massively inefficient ICEVs like a Hummer.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 7:48 pm
    Gah, I`ve just checked and Toyota have reduced the warranty to 100,000 miles.

    Still, what`s the mileage warranty on a Hummer? Why presume that it will last for more than 3 times as many miles as a Prius?
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    I drive a 1994 Chevy Cavalier. It runs perfectly. Its enviromental footprint is a fraction of what a Prius`s enviromental footprint.

    Prius`s expected lifespan is about 10 years, all because of the nickel battery; my car is nearing doubling that lifespan.
    My car is made with steel, though harmful to make, not harmful to dispose of. A Prius harms the environment in production and in disposal.
    And though I don`t get the MPGs of a Prius, I still get 33MPG... Which is a lot for a car that`s 17 years old.

    ... All this and I don`t believe that the climate change is influenced by man...
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    thehitcher Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    diesel emits less pollution than gasoline. gasoline has three key pollutants where as diesel has only two and it emits less than gasoloine cars. anyone ever EVER gets into this with me they are getting an ear full of information they never expected. sure it may be black smoke but the ingredients in it are less harmful than what gas has in it. if i had five minutes with this woman she would be schooled by a 19 year old
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    thehitcher Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 8:11 pm
    and yet another thing. to debunk the "gas guzzling piece of sheisse" thing. diesel engines are 30-40%more efficient than gasoline engines because the fuel is burned completely (in an engine that isnt heavily modded)also if you have diesel and gas occupy the same amount of space, diesel has far more btu`s by weight therefore being much more rich in energy. anyone else have anything to add?
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    Lilou88 Female 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    All I can think of with this video is the south park episode where Prius owners fart in wine glasses and sniff it. I`m all for driving energy efficient cars, but this woman is not helping the case.
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    I bet that bitch`s fat ass creates more pollution than any car, truck, or commercial airliner in existence.
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    deckem_17 Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    @thehitcher
    As much as I agree with what you`re saying, I have to point out one thing.
    Don`t let the name of a chemical reaction fool you. A "clean burning" fuel or a fuel that burns completely still emits CO2. In fact that`s one of the products from burning a hydrocarbon. That and water (and other things for other types of fuels).
    The burning of this fuel may be more efficient that others, but that doesn`t mean it doesn`t emit any gasses.

    Of course there are always two sides to this argument. Hybrids offer a better fuel efficiency than most other types of engines but then they have all those lovely dead batteries in the end. Diesel offers more power than gasoline, but if you`re not going to use that power why have it? it also requires heavier components to work.
    But gasoline isn`t the ultimate fuel either.
    A completely electric motor would have the least emissions, but we`ll have that dead battery problem with them (for now).

    But whateve
  76. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    November 7, 2011 at 10:36 pm
    It`s a shame that the Jaguar C-X75 hybrid is currently an unbuildable concept car. A turbine/electric setup with the turbines running at a constant speed (far more efficient) to generate electricity for the motors that drive the car (electric motors can vary power output far more efficiently). The problem is getting a pair of 80,000 rpm miniature turbines to work properly in a car...but it`s not unfeasible.

    Granted, it would cost silly money but if they can get the kit working then a scaled-down version in a car made from normal materials would be possible.

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    scallywagger Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:34 pm
    @deckem I believe the solution to this problem is a hydrogen fuel cell. unfortunately there`s still years of research to be done before the technology will be ready for mass production, but the potential for a zero emission vehicle with no toxic batteries is there.
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    Izaq Male 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:47 pm
    @thehitcher
    Yes diesel is more energy dense. So it makes no sense saying diesel engines are more energy conserving. 40% more dense, 40% more mileage. Status quo!

    BUT diesel engines produce far more particles that cause lung cancer. In many larger citys in Europe you either need a special particle filter or you are not allowed to drive in the city centres. Particles from diesel engines cause just as many cancers as smoking atm.

    @Americans: Stop effing whining about gas prices and buy smaller cars! WTF do you need a truck for when noone seems to be carrying any cargo?
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2011 at 12:04 am
    Izaq, if you live in an area that gets 3 feet of snow overnight, and that snow stays on the ground for 3 months or so, sometimes a smaller car doesn`t work.

    I mentioned I do have a smaller car, but I am a good driver. I know how to drive my car in the snow, however a lot of people aren`t good drivers but they can`t just not go to work because of snow.
    And yes, 3 feet of snow doesn`t automatically shut down the city.
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    MrAtari Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2011 at 12:53 am
    "That`s not a car, that`s a lunch box!" (Achmed the dead terrorist)
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    Nickel2 Male 50-59
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    November 8, 2011 at 1:14 am
    From what I understand, Toyota Pious batteries are usually Nickel metal hydride. Mining and refining Nickel is a dirty and polluting process. The manufacture and lifetime operation of a priapus car creates twice the pollution that an ordinary small diesel car does in it`s working life. The generation of the electricity to power/charge the thing contributes to this pollution. I would be far happier about the environmental effect of running a modern diesel than a hybrid. The shouty woman ought to do a bit of research: Her car may be clean where it is being used, but is probably poisoning some other poor souls somewhere else. The chances are that her car causes more pollution than the diesel truck. (self-righteous sow)
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    hatface Male 18-29
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    November 8, 2011 at 3:47 am
    Maaaaaaaaaan what a bitch.
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    Mr_Pedo_Bear Male 70 & Over
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    November 8, 2011 at 4:04 am
    It`s been shown several times before in different journals etc that modern day fuel efficient petrol and diesel cars are less carbon intensive overall then hybrids because a hybrid involves a lot of a global manufacturing process getting very specific parts from far away places in intensive mining techniques
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2011 at 5:04 am
    @Angilion

    I`d be surprised if the Hummer didn`t outlast the Prius in terms of lifetime of use - its massively over-engineered and under-stressed for use as a town-car, whereas the prius will be built to a low weight, and therefore finer tolerances and more subject to mechanical wear ~ I would have thought. (Not that I`m siding with the politically biased dust-to-dust, far from it).

    In any case a decent small diesel wins hands down over either tech - my Tdi saloon, bought for a pittance with 100,000 on the clock, now at 260,000 miles and rising ~ 60mpg easily on the motorway @ the legal limit - I`d like to know what a prius does on the motorway - I bet its not as good.
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    DethRose Female 18-29
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    November 8, 2011 at 5:06 am
    It`s a well known fact that Prius drivers like the smell their own farts. As documented by South Park.
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    MattPrince Male 40-49
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    November 8, 2011 at 5:11 am
    @izzaq - diesel engines are still more efficient than petrol, even after the greater density of the fuel is taken into account - by about 20%. Partly down the higher compression ratio, partly down to the improved operation of a diesel unit under partial loads.

    There is no disputing that small particle diesel pollutants are a human health problem - and for that reason alone, an electric-petrol hybrid around town does make sense.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14268 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 6:46 am

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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3447 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 7:16 am
    Shut your engines off. Noisy and stinky.
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    EmagehtmaI Male 18-29
    187 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 7:50 am
    Aren`t modern, low-sulfur diesel engines more efficient than gasoline engines? I have a buddy who had a 2000-something Ram 2500 4x4 with the turbodiesel that`s nearly as fuel-efficient as my V6 Explorer sport 4x4 (a vehicle that`s about half the size of his).

    Perhaps the guy is a camping enthusiast and needs a diesel to tow. Maybe he drives a lot and wants the reliability of a diesel engine (he does say he`s in marketing - don`t they travel a lot). He mentions having a farm. Perhaps he uses the vehicle for that use, as well? Or maybe he just likes having a big truck? All are justified reasons for having a diesel truck.

    Also, that woman was offended because he was idling his truck and the wind was blowing the fumes toward her. Therefore, since she was the one offended, it makes it her problem. She should have been the one to move HER vehicle.

    I think she was mad because he interrupted her fantasy about Al Gore.
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    Anzac5665 Male 50-59
    30 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 8:18 am
    Smug alert! Smug alert!!
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    Uthrax Male 30-39
    77 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 10:09 am
    He said they have horses, and should have said that the more she talks the more he revs the engine
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    BigBossDogg Male 30-39
    132 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 11:20 am
    yeah I would have just revved it every time she spoke while flipping her the bird
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    God I hate mean persons like that who think they are entitled to go and yell in peoples faces.

    She`s like "YOU ARE BEING SO dratING UN-COURTEOUS, FUUUUUUCK", but the courteous thing to do would have been to walk over and be like "Hi, how`s it going? Do you mind turning off your truck, the fumes are blowing over here. Thanks man."
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
    799 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    >Gerry
    I sincerely hope you end up in this situation, and that you do what you write you`d do. And that you record it and put it here. I`d laugh myself half to death. ^^

    What if he did it twice?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    I`d be surprised if the Hummer didn`t outlast the Prius in terms of lifetime of use - its massively over-engineered and under-stressed for use as a town-car, whereas the prius will be built to a low weight, and therefore finer tolerances and more subject to mechanical wear ~ I would have thought. (Not that I`m siding with the politically biased dust-to-dust, far from it).

    Good point. 3.5 times the milage seems like rather a lot even then, but it`s less unfair than I thought.

    In any case a decent small diesel wins hands down over either tech - my Tdi saloon, bought for a pittance with 100,000 on the clock, now at 260,000 miles and rising ~ 60mpg easily on the motorway @ the legal limit - I`d like to know what a prius does on the motorway - I bet its not as good.

    It`s about 50mpg, for the mark 3 model (which is much better for extra-urban economy than earlier models).
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    next greencar, a site which is (obviously) specifically biased towards "green" cars, rate cars on a total environmental impact basis, based on pollution in manufacturing and in use.

    So I looked at the numerous Prius models in their database. The "greenest" model scores a 35 in their rating.

    I can`t find a way to get more than 50 results per search. All of the top 50 diesels beat the Prius, along with an unknown number more (because I can`t get more than 50 results). 30 petrol cars beat it and 9 draw with it.

    All of the top 50 diesels (and an unknown number more) even beat it purely on mpg.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    November 8, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    Oops, forgot the link:

    Next Green Car
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    Happitec Male 18-29
    41 posts
    November 9, 2011 at 1:17 am
    Meh. Whatever. Prius Owners are dicks.

    Chances are she was driving a gas guzzling pos back in the 80`s when the CRX was getting 40mpg. Why didn`t she give a poo back then? I also doubt fumes were bothering her back then either.

    Folks, that lady is the person one turns into when sex is no longer available.

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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    November 9, 2011 at 4:05 am
    Should of told her to shove that piece of sh*t hybrid up her fat ass. People are too nice these days.
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    GuruPitka Male 30-39
    1 post
    November 9, 2011 at 6:09 am
    Textbook example of an ELFF: Evil Little Fat F*ck.
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    shaustin Male 18-29
    143 posts
    November 9, 2011 at 9:50 am
    lol oh those smart american female prius drivers
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    PTPete Female 30-39
    1236 posts
    November 9, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Funny how Cheryl goes straight for the physical appearance put-downs. There is SO much that is wrong with this woman`s behavior, her physical appearance is the LEAST of it. I love the guy`s unruffled attitude. When someone it having a sh*t-fit & falling in it right in front of me, I get the CRAZY giggles. And laughing at them makes them SO much more angry. Hee, hee.
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    Amurika Male 30-39
    282 posts
    November 9, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    I`m assuming this cheeseburger is from Michigan?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6174 posts
    November 10, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    DuckBoy87-"I drive a 1994 Chevy Cavalier."

    I had one of those (92 Chevy Cavalier Type 10)...loved that car. (Actually, my daugher was conceived in that car.)

    Izaq-"WTF do you need a truck for when noone seems to be carrying any cargo?"

    WTF does it matter what I `need`. It`s simply sufficient that I `want` to drive a truck with a big V-8 (and a Jeep with a V-8 and no Catalytic Converter). Nor is any anyone else`s business nor decision.

    tommy2X4-"Shut your engines off."

    You have no say-so in the matter. Foxtrot Oscar.

    Don`t like it? It`s a free country and you`re free to take your pius butt down the road to someplace that doesn`t bug you.

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