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    eugenius Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:33 am
    Link: Pregnant Lady Pepper-Sprayed, Miscarries - Uh oh. A pregnant Seattle woman pepper-sprayed by local cops says she miscarried. She`s pictured here being carried away
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    i-am-evil Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:38 am
    Those two are both dumbasses. This is why you don`t bring your pregnant wife to a protest where she is likely to get pepper-sprayed.
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    Ant0n Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:42 am
    OK that was just stupid on her part to go to a potentially violent protest and put her baby in such danger. She`s the only one to blame
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:42 am
    iamevil is right, also, this bitch should be neutered, clean up the gene pool a bit
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:44 am
    Way to take care of your kid you selfish twat.
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:45 am
    "Those two are both dumbasses. This is why you don`t bring your pregnant wife to a protest where she is likely to get pepper-sprayed."

    If you go through the street at night it is not your fault if you get mugged.

    You are not at fault if you do not fear people, it is the people who are the cause of fear that are to blame.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:49 am
    Is the pepper spray even why she miscarried????
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:49 am
    If you are pregnant, don`t be at a protest...
    Simple as that

    Stupid hippies
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:53 am

    "I was ready to have a kid, because my family was going to support me in taking care of the child."
    ? WHAT THE HELL!!!! ?
    She`s ready to have a kid because her folks are willing to pay for it? News Flash:
    You are ready when YOU can handle all of the responsabilities, not dump them on others.

    It was stupid, in her condition, to go to a protest where there is a potential
    for police response such as tasers or sticks or spray. Add to that her illpreparedness
    to support a child and I have to deem her: Too Stupid To Breed.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:54 am
    kairobert would you put your pregnant wife in a situation where she might get hurt? it doesnt mean you are afraid if you avoid potential harmfull situations, it means you are intelligent (well not YOU you of course)
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:54 am
    @kairobert
    If you are just walking on the street and I punch
    you in the face, is it your faul? No.

    If you say stupid things, is it your fault that I
    punch you in the face? YES

    See the difference?
    Even if the police isn`t supposed to act like that,
    we all know what happens at these kind of things,
    just stay at home, have the baby, THEN go to all the
    protests you want to go and leave your child alone at
    home where he can electrocute himself and, for the
    sake of humanity, hope he dies and let those stupid
    genes stop reproducing right there
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    RyanHake Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:01 am
    @Kairobert, that logic just doesn`t apply to a situation like this where you KNOW they are going to be pepper spraying all the ignorant complainers.
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:02 am
    Hm. This is unfortunate and sad... but I also fall into the `if you`re pregnant, take care of yourself and think ahead` category.

    Admittedly, I didn`t read the full article though...
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:04 am
    Ok guys she was not a genius when decided to go in the middle of the crowd...but this is enough for you? Can`t you also consider the other aspect? The costitutional right to assembly without the fear to be attacked by a bunch of pig officiers? The right to live in "YOUR" fuc*ing city without being pepper sprayed, tazed or beated by police? I think the real problem is that lot of you are considering pepper spray, tazers and beating something normal. If for you this is good ok, but please don`t criticize me if i call you bunch of retarded sheeps.
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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:05 am
    But pepper spray is food.
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    flyducks Male 13-17
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:07 am
    peak
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:09 am
    iceblack: "If you are pregnant, don`t be at a protest... "

    How is protesting harmful to an unborn child? Everything was fine until the cops showed up...then she tried to leave and was blocked by a cop who rammed her in her stomach. What did she do to derserve losing her child?
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    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:09 am
    I remember when I was pregnant, i decided to run with the bulls and then lost the baby. That is why nobody can run with the bulls now. Because bulls are evil.
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    Ant0n Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:11 am
    @piperfawn
    No one is agreeing with police abusing force. But it`s very well know that it happen quite often, and that is why she should have never gone to that protest
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    PirateWillis Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:12 am
    Maybe it is the fact that she is homeless and camping out with a bunch of hippies at a protest, that probably isn`t a good environment for a pregnant woman.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:13 am
    piperfaun, whether or not police tactics are legit IS NOT THE POINT, they have been beating and pepperspraying the occupy tards for weeks and everyone knows it, so dont go there if your pregnant you drating moron
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:14 am
    Does Visine cause miscarriages? why would pepperspray?
  23. Profile photo of Ant0n
    Ant0n Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:15 am
    And I seriously doubt that pepper spray could cause miscarriage.
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    TusKunt Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:16 am
    Well lets see. She`s 19 and she`s homeless. Being homeless may have already contributed to her miscarriage in the first place. Miscarriages are also more common at those earlier stages and there`s nothing yet to prove pepper spray was the cause, and I have a feeling she enjoys playing the victim in all of this as well, considering her situation. I could easily see certain facts being exaggerated. As much as I feel for her loss, it was a dumb idea to be having a baby while homeless, and a much more dumb idea to show up to a protest while pregnant. Yes we shouldn`t expect police to attack us but that isn`t the point. Its a massive crowd. Anything could happen. A fight could break out, people could get aggressive or begin provoking the police as well. Dumb decisions.
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    iceblack Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:20 am
    @jtrebowski

    Just read Ant0n`s and yusuksomuch`s posts...

    Is not like I`m saying the police didn`t do wrong, but
    if you know you are facing a possible assault... JUST DON`T GO
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:21 am
    IAB commenters never failing to disgust me on posts like this. It`s totally her fault for losing her child because she chose to go to a peaceful protest and was unnecessarily harmed by the cops. Right.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:22 am
    And for the people who didn`t read the article, a police officer also hit her in the stomach.
  28. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:26 am
    Break the law, refuse a cop`s order and you get hit or pepper sprayed. It doesn`t matter that she was pregnant; I think that the liberals are forgetting that everyone stands equal before the law.

    Also, correlation--not causation. Can you prove it was the cop hitting her that caused her to miscarry?

    There is absolutely zero sympathy coming from me.
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    TusKunt Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:28 am
    And I guess we`re just trusting what she said when she said that a cop hit her forcibly in the stomach. Thats like that photo of the woman`s boob being grabbed by the cop being "sexual harassment". He was trying to detain her from behind and accidentally touched her tit. Big whoop. People exaggerate, I imagine a 19 year old homeless girl would exaggerate the situation as well.
  30. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:30 am
    Ant0n if you read the article you can clearly see that the problem is not just the pepper spray, but the beating and the ram done by police.
  31. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:32 am
    @lilliandulci, the feeling is mutual i can assure you, i am pretty sick of the owsbs and their sympathizers and I`m not the only one (53%`er here)
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:39 am
    Somebody had sex,....with that?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:46 am
    @LillianDulci

    It was not obvious she was pregnant. Should we know ask protesters to submit to a pregnancy test prior to instituting crowd control?

    Simply put: Only ONE PERSON is responsible for putting her child in danger. That person would be...HER.

    Here a nice little list of things not to do when you`re pregnant:
    -Amusment Park Rides
    -Bicycling
    -Contact sports
    -Downhill skiing
    -gymnastics
    -Horseback riding
    -Scuba Diving
    -Snowboarding
    -Surfing
    -Tennis
    -Waterskiing
    -Drug use
    -ANTAGONIZING POLICE.

    I`m pretty sure she didn`t pay attention to those last two.
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    Ruswut Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 9:46 am
    I read up to "her name was going to be miracle" and then felt horrible for thinking that maybe the ability to correlate two events as having an effect upon one another was outside of her capacity and perhaps she`d be better off not contributing to the gene pool... Though yeah... police brutality = bad etc.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:05 am
    `I was ready to have a kid, because my family was going to support me in taking care of the child. Her name was going to be Miracle.`

    That`s 10 pounds of fail in a 5 pound bucket
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    sidewyz8 Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:09 am
    While I do feel that the police kicking her and whatnot was totally out of line, she shouldn`t have been there in the first place. She says she`s homeless and the protest was her home, I`m sure Seattle has woman`s homes and things that could help her. A protest is NOT a safe place to be at all when you`re pregnant. I`m about 3 months along right now and have stopped most of the work I do with dogs because I know them jumping on me and everything isn`t safe for the baby. You have to think about more than yourself for just a few months, then after you poop the kid out, you can go back to doing your protests or whatever. Common sense, people!
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    Stardust6702 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:10 am
    @robosnitz - my thoughts exactly
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:14 am
    they were just inforcing the "you cant have a child if you are too stupid" law.
    the police should help more often when an undeserving person wants to have a child...
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:21 am
    "and that the pepper spray got to it , too.""
    huh? How big is her vagina that it got to the fetus??
    and how did she know it was a girl at 3 months? that`s only 12 weeks...
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:23 am
    @MeGrendel

    -Bicycling: Mountain biking I can understand, but a casual ride through the park?
    -Downhill skiing and snowboarding: Again can be casual so long as you stay away from the black diamonds and moguls.
    -Scuba diving: Contrary to what may be popular belief there is actually no known danger so long as the woman in question follows her training.
    -Drug use: Some substances maybe, but crack babies are absolute fiction.
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    DingDingDong Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:24 am
    I lol`d at the doctor said that "the pepper spray got to it , too." This is stupid. Homeless women living on street has miscarriage. I`m sure she wasn`t in the greatest of health to begin with. Pepper spray doesn`t cause miscarriage, and a doctor would never say that.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:25 am
    "and how did she know it was a girl at 3 months? that`s only 12 weeks..."
    There`s a chance that she took one of those fake gender tests that aren`t any more accurate than guessing. But also, I know someone who miscarried around 12 weeks. She referred to the fetus as she since she didn`t have the chance to actually find out. It`s easier than saying she/he and doesn`t feel impersonal like saying "it" would.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:26 am
    "It was not obvious she was pregnant. "

    According to the article, she told them and they hit her after they already knew.
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    Ujelly Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:32 am
    The fact that she was pepper sprayed had nothing to do with the fact she miscarried, it happens all the time...besides, the lady sounds like a real "winner" to begin with, the father dodged a bullet there.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:38 am
    I still think it`s a dude.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:45 am
    LillianDulci-"she told them and they hit her after they already knew."

    And, of course, she would never LIE to the police?

    Or LIE about what she SAID to the police?

    How many speeders have said, "I was on the way to take my wife the the hospital." (actually, I used that one, and even though it was true, I still got a ticket (as I should have). Luckily the Chief checked on my story and had the ticket dismissed. Very nice of him.)

    Again, only ONE PERSON was responsible for putting that child in danger. HER.

    There is not a single excuse on the face of this planet that will absolve her the responsibility of what she did.

    I`m sorry for the child. The mother? Not so much. She is an idiot.
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    Tekinette Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:59 am
    medic.wikia on pepper spray :

    "Women who are or could be pregnant, or who are trying to get pregnant may be at risk of spontaneous abortion or increased risk of birth defects."

    Apparently the doctor knows more about medecine than iab members with hate issues, what a surprise.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:13 am
    why would a pregnant woman take part in lawful PEACEFUL protest. Well now, perhaps to try and her her child be born into a better world, to take responsibility for the ways things are and because the last thing you expect is for riot police to attack a lawful peaceful process in a country that claims to have a constitution that applies to all its citizens.
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    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:15 am
    Homeless, meaning if she had the kid it would be ANOTHER drain on the system that those of us who do pay taxes would be forced to support.
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    paco664 Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:16 am
    and i care about this why??
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    paco664 Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:18 am


    @cajun247... the fact that you say crackbabies don`t exist..

    A.makes me sad i am from louisiana
    B.makes me sad your mom smoked crack while pregnant with you.
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    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:18 am
    By the way for all you that are saying LAWFUL.. Its not lawful if you are not allowed to camp out or block traffic without a permit.
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    paco664 Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:21 am
    @lilliandulci....

    if she would have had her ass at home or at a job trying to EARN a better living for her kid instead of being annoying and smelly in public doing something she KNEW was gonna start crap with the public there wouldn`t have been any problem with the cops.......
    on top of that the liberals believe in abortion...
    he was saving her a trip to planned parenthood......
  54. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:26 am
    @paco

    Most studies conducted show no significant correlation,those that do typically show that alcohol and tobacco are the worst offenders.
    Secondly, ad hominem.
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    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:27 am
    I don`t understand why people so not understand. Federal Law supercedes state and local laws. The constitution is considered Federal Law. The constitution does not have time restraints or camping ordinances. Those are local/state. It`s the same for anyone that lives in an MMJ state. State law says it is okay to posses marijuana with a doctor recommendation and a license. But it is still illegal under Federal Law and you can/will be prosecuted federally. This really isn`t a hard concept to grasp.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:36 am
    madduck-"why would a pregnant woman take part in lawful PEACEFUL protest."

    I don`t know, but we`re talking about THIS woman, not one that was at a lawful PEACEFUL protest.
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    Pinkminx22 Female 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:42 am
    I hate to say it, but she put her self in that type of situation knowing the kind of crap that could possibly go down, and she knew the risks..she should of kept her a** at home and out of trouble...I may be hated for saying this...but she should own this as her own fault.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:46 am
    WTF is wrong with all of you blaming the public for this? Your logic is so ass backwards. One day, You`re going to be stopped for speeding, ask the cop a simple question, proceed to have him tell you not to get smart, while pulling you out of your vehicle, beating you with a billy club, pepper spray, and then tazed.

    My reply to you will be, "DERP, WELL YOU SHOULDN"T HAVE BEEN SPEEDING THEN."

    Civil disobedience, regardless of the cause, has value in society that is reflected in legislation. Hopefully, this will have a similar effect, if only to scale back the rights of cops to beat the living poo out of you whenever they feel the slightest bit threatened, however irrational.
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    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:47 am
    @Pinkminx, I agree. I am an occupier in my city and I would not have my wife/kids with me. Granted, in the city I am in, there has been no police presence and no violence at all but it could happen.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:52 am
    For all the idiots saying she was doing something illegal, like someone already pointed out...and what you should know as an American Citizen...

    The Constitution of the United States is law of the highest authority, and no state law shall be recognized that is found to be repugnant to it`s words. The constitution wins over unconstitutional state laws...always, without fail. We have 300 years of Supreme Court case law to back it up. Google it if you want.
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:55 am
    maddux32, nothing in the constitution says that it`s legal to block public streets or assault police officers.
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 11:55 am
    She should be arrested for endangering her child. what a moron.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    CRAIGJ i`m pretty sure that also Geroge Washington, the father of your "splendid" democracy, think is lawfull to assemble in pubblic place and camp for protest. Your beloved country and democracy is born by a REVOLUTION and is born fighting the english rules. I`m pretty sure that no one of your revolutionary ancestors give a damn f*ck about law restriction on right to stay on "YOUR" sole.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    ok idiot, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the constitution, its been pretty obvious that cops all across the country dont give a crap about your take on whats constitional, Im not saying its right for the cops to behave this way but i know they do and so does she and so does almost everyone in this country. so keep spewing your stupidity, that baby is still dead and she killed it.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    yusuksomuch Ohh so if i take a gun and i shot in your head i can allways say that was the bullet that have killed you and not me aiming at you and pulling the trigger.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:09 pm
    piperfawn lol wow i hope you`re just trolling and not really that ridiculous
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    hahaha nm you cleared that right up for me
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    @yusuksomuch

    You might not think it`s about the constitution, but this will be brought before the Supreme Court in a few years. The state will assert their rights of police power and the plaintiff will assert the constitution and win. Oh well I guess. It`s important that people like you exist. Really, it is.
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    @yusuksomuch

    60 years ago, people felt the same way about those enacting civil disobedience to take down segregation. Those for segregation said, "It has nothing to do with the constitution. The states have a right to keep people separate, and the constitution does not guarantee negroes the right to go to school with whites." The movement started, and through piece meal litigation, slowly negroes were being admitted into law schools reserved for whites, even though the state built perfectly good law schools for blacks. And then Brown vs. Board of Education happened. And the constitution is what compelled it to happen, through the bravery of individuals willing to stand up for themselves.

    The 99% are no different. Whatever your feelings about their cause, something will change because of their efforts, and it will have everything to do with what is constitutional and what isn`t. Such as the rights of a police force to exert deadly force upon largely peaceful
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    @ maddux, yep and that baby is still dead, good thing there are people like you to forget that
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    you can play my words however you want, this is the internet and all, but my point was, she had an obligation to the life she was responsible for like no other and she sacrificed that life for what? your arguement about the constitionality of the police using force? a good person would have set the life responsible as their priority, but its important that people like that exist, really it is. OK you got me, they could all go away and no one would miss them
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    @yusuksomuch yep and that cop is still a killer,good thing there are people like you to forget that.
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    hiptothemax4 Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    hmm the guy on the right looks exactly like my friend Nate who goes to school out there... I have several friends out there now but all are in school so they haven`t been actively a part of the occupy movement... It`s hard to see these pepper spray events as a move forward, but really... protestors in the 60s were hosed down and beaten for simply marching or sitting like these young people here. I`m not saying that the pepper spraying is okay, and eventually (hopefully) we`ll get to a point in our country`s history where it lets us practice nonviolent democratic protest without interference.
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    jinxiejae Female 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    ah, i love the smell of grievous lawsuit in the morning.
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    Of course I don`t agree with the way that Occupy movements are being handled by police- there`s no excuse for that...

    But what on earth made it sound like a good idea for her to go down to a protest like that when she was pregnant? Especially considering how the police have handled it thus far and the way people are being treated. Didn`t you have any respect for the little one and think to yourself "Yeah, sure I`m really passionate about this cause but I need to think of my child first"

    She didn`t deserve it, nobody does- but she needs to take a serious hard look at the choices she`s made.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    Piperfawn did i not say cops have been beating and pepperspraying the occutards all across the country? Im pretty sure i did, but if she would have used common sense that cop would have been hitting and pepperspraying some other idiot (like you) and the baby wouldnt be dead
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    Frankii Female 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    She shouldn`t have been at the protest really if she knew she was pregnant, even though these are peaceful protests everybody knows that they don`t necessarily stay that way, most of them have descended into violence and it was unnecessary risk
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    SethDog Male 18-29
    768 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Not to sound like an non-nice individual or anything, but what the hell is a pregnant woman doing out there anyway!!
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    DeanoBoz Male 40-49
    195 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    What would the media be saying if this happened when BUSH was president?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    yusuksomuch You know history is not maded by "IF" and "BUT". History is maded by facts, the fact here is that we havew a naive mother, a killer cop , a dead baby and some morron that in front of this fact just say that the fault is only of the mother. Is like if i point my finger to the moon and you stop and stare my finger.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    piperfawn, just stop trying, its hard to read, the only "fact" in this article is that this girl got sprayed, EVERYTHING else has yet to be proven. and it ALL boils down to parental responsibility, of which , she has NONE. she will sue, and yes maddux, she will probably win and get lots of money for her dead baby, mission accomplished?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    Whoever pepper sprayed that chick just saved a childhood. Imagine her as a mother?!
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    yusuksomuch this article talk about beating in the stomach also, i really doubt you have read the article.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    any expecting mother, who actually wanted and cares about the child, would never put herself in a position like this, but if you dont care about the child and were maybe considering aborting anyway, this would be a great way for an unemployed homeless person to get a huge payday, not saying that`s what she did of course, because i dont know her and wasnt there but hey, lets speculate the crap out of it.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    piperfawn, show me the link to the pictures of the cop punching her or its still not proven, and maybe she made up the part about the doctor telling her the pepper got to the baby too i dont know, but a doctors examination will prove she was peppersprayed and hit but not by who. just because someone claims it, doesnt make it fact. so i take back my earlier statement that the pepperspraying was fact.
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
    1010 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    Dear God, let yusuksomuch be a couple of 14 year old boys trolling and giggling in front of the computer...
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
    926 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    @yusuksomuch

    It`s about more than a dead baby...but you don`t seem like the kind of guy who could appreciate the big picture. So I`ll move on.
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    studentlaw, do you imagine this scenerio alot? thats just sick, perv
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    how is a dead baby NOT THE BIG PICTURE? so its OK to sacrifice a child for your stupid argument?
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    Ok yusuksomuch keep staring my finger, but this time is the middle. I`m not sayng that this woman was a genius but i`m just speachless when i see that lot of people here ,in front of this history, just say that the fault is only of the mother and say she was not supposed to be in the middle of an assembly. I can say so that police was not supposed to be there and was not supposed to beat and pepper spray a peaceful crowd. There is a difference in this two cases btw, the mother have all the rights in the world to partecipate in all assembly she want( also if is not a brilliant idea for a former mother). The police, instead, have no justification on beating people and on violating constitutional rights. Your police is just tryng to make you understand that "rights" are dangerous and you as braveless sheep are ready to follow this direction.
  91. Profile photo of yusuksomuch
    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    anyone who could dismiss a killed child...... sounds like an acceptable sacrifice for the cause tho huh? everyone who didnt comply with the police order to disperse should be brought up on accessory to murder charges, big picture wow
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    lol piperfawn you can stop trying to finger me now, student law apparently likes that poo tho you two should hook up, their is no denying the fact that if she truly gave a poo she wouldnt have been there
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    yusuksomuch Male 40-49
    1008 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    hahaha
    police "you are ordered to move away from this spot"
    occutard "no"
    police "oh, OK sorry to bother you"
    HAHAHAHAHAHA yes this is how it should work
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 2:01 pm
    No my dear retarded friend yousucksomuch
    The way how is supposed to be is that when a peaceful and constitutional crowd assemble police is not needed. Police just have to give orders and to act in front of disorders. When police start to be violent before the crowd there is something wrong, but i don`t have any expectation that a sheep can understand that. To occupy a road is not against your "SUPREME" constitutional law. Violating people rights ,also if your "local" laws seem to allow that, is against the fundaments of the law of your country.
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    botfly Male 50-59
    616 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    Poor kid would have inherited genes from both and been blind, stupid, and ugly, blindness obviously from the father.
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    Pandabee Female 40-49
    857 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    When I was pregnant, my hormones had me driving everywhere at 26 mph (including 1 trip on a duel carriageway...sorry everyone!), forks were too sharp and 6 year olds looked very shifty... And now I know why, nature is clever.
  97. Profile photo of Justahuman
    Justahuman Male 18-29
    109 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    If you are pregnant...why would it seem like a good idea to go protesting???
  98. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    piperfawn-"when a peaceful and constitutional crowd assemble"

    I thought you were talking about this situation. You must be talking about some other situation with a peaceful and constitutional crowd. You know, like a Tea Party.

    Piperfawn, it`s obvious you know exactly d!@k about law.

    The freedom of assembly is not unlimited (the Supreme Court has said so). The government may limit it under three considerations:
    1.The limitation must serve an important government interest. (i.e. not assembly to plot an assasination or riot)

    2.The limitation must be content neurtral. (i.e.OWS & Tea Party held to same standards)

    3.The limitation must restrict assembly as little as possible to serve the governements interest. (i.e. they are not keeping you from assembling, just controlling where/when)

    So, the government has a recognized right to control the time, place and manner of assemblies for the sake of public safety adn conve
  99. Profile photo of CRAIGJ
    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
    138 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    @Piperfawn.. Speaking of George Washington everyone of these "protesters" (want something for nothing) a**holes should read the book " To Try Mens Souls" by Newt Gingrich to understand what true hardship and sacrfice is. And please don`t compare these libtards to the Revilutionist that formed this country.
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    uatme Male 18-29
    1068 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    wow there are alot of blame the victim posts here.. But she appeared to be early in her term where you shouldn`t fear for the safety of the child besides the normal things you should be aware of.. is a protest one of those things.. maybe..
    Anybody else like that one of the guys helping her had safety glasses?
  101. Profile photo of Zuriel
    Zuriel Male 30-39
    554 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    .. and i should care why?

    the "protesters" are tards... and this girl is just lower on the food chain
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    honkeylips Male 30-39
    1586 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    Should we feel bad for her? She put herself into a situation where this was a distinct possibility.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    uatme-"there are alot of blame the victim posts here"

    The baby was the victim (or the `decision`, depending on who you ask).

    The mother was an idiot.

    We always hear, ad nauseum, `A woman should have control over her body.` Well, with that control comes the responsibility.

    While some situations are unavoidable, women who care about the wellbeing of their child (or fetus) realize that there are somethings you shouldn`t do. Like drugs, smoking, skydiving and, oh, maybe attending RIOTS.

    In business, when something goes wrong you look for the `root cause`. The root cause here is that the mother put herself and her child in a dangerous situation.
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    beardtats Male 18-29
    255 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    you know what`s great about this?
    it`s lessening her contribution to the gene pool.
    one less idiot child born to idiot parents ruining our world.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    "So, the government has a recognized right to control the time, place and manner of assemblies for the sake of public safety adn conve", Oh now is all clear, you are sayng me that the way that police control time place and manner is beating and pepper sprayng people, i tought that for doing such things was just necessary a pencil a piece of paper and eventualy a camera.

    "The baby was the victim (or the `decision`, depending on who you ask).

    The mother was an idiot."
    Is all right what you say but i think you miss the last part that say...
    The cop was a killer.
  106. Profile photo of CRAIGJ
    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
    138 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:00 pm
    piperfawn.. yes we have laws that are expected to be followed by the LAW ABIDING citizens. Unlike your side of the Atlantic where at the drop of a soccer ball the whole f*ing country can go bat sh*t crazy. We are trying to avoid what you have become!
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    botfly Male 50-59
    616 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    I know you eurotards don`t understand the concept of natural selection, that`s a given. The mother is a `useful idiot`.Look it up, I`m sure it applies to you also.
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    Xpekt Male 18-29
    134 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:05 pm
    @MeGrendel

    I agree with you for the most part, the child is the woman`s responsibility and she`s pretty stupid for attending OWS while pregnant. On the other hand.. this whole movement is clearly not a `riot`.

    We`ve seen riots before. This is a peaceful protest. I don`t see how anyone could mistake it for a riot.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    The current situation in the USA increasingly reminds me of the Peterloo massacre. Granted, that was far worse. But it was in 1819, a much more authoritarian time.
  110. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    CRAIGJ what we have become?
    botfly maybe you must know that Charles Darwin was an eurotard and not an ameritard.
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:14 pm
    CRAIGJ no reason to try so hard, you have failed allready long time ago.
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    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
    138 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:40 pm
    And thank god for that. BTW you are welcome for not prasing the Hitler as your savior!! F*** YOU I will take our F*uped system any day over the Bullsh*t you have over there. And yes I had relatives in the war.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
    612 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    one less hipster.
  114. Profile photo of piperfawn
    piperfawn Male 30-39
    4888 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    CRAIGJ so you have Russian origins? My relatives were partisans and fought against nazism and fascism but i don`t go around spouting to people that my country is the best cause others and not me were heroes. Oh CRAIGJ maybe in Europe people go crazy about football, i personally don`t like it, i prefere to watch some good footage of your famous Black Fryday, i found it much more entertaining.
  115. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    Xpekt-" this whole movement is clearly not a `riot`."

    I haven`t claimed that, though many parts of it are.

    The OWS movement locally has been, for the most part, calm and just a slight annoyance. There`s been a few arrests, but no violence. For the most part they are trying to get the point accross peacefully. We know they are there (that`s the point) and they follow the rules to make themselves heard, both on the street and at city council meetins. None of this chanting B.S. and NO one is shouted down. (of course, this is the south, and it`s not a bright idea to harass someone who has a very good chance of being armed.

    No matter how calm and collected they are, their message is still B.S.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 7:24 pm
    I`m sure the cops didn`t want to injure her to that degree. They probably just wanted to beat the fugly off of her.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
    2385 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 7:45 pm
    how to cops not shoot themselves when they go home
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    blankstare Female 18-29
    8 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 8:02 pm
    An arrest record from September says she claimed to be three months pregnant at the time.I think she is just a whiny bitch looking for attention.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
    3278 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 8:32 pm
    piperfawn:"...but i`m just speachless when i see that lot of people here ,in front of this history, just say that the fault is only of the mother and say she was not supposed to be in the middle of an assembly."

    No you`re not
  120. Profile photo of OldOllie
    OldOllie Male 60-69
    15844 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    I`m sure the cops didn`t want to injure her to that degree. They probably just wanted to beat the fugly off of her.
    They obviously failed. Had they succeeded, she would certainly have died.
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    Bountykat Female 18-29
    399 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    She shouldn`t be having a baby in the first place if:
    A) She`s going to decide to go to a fcking protest at which, if she knows anything about where the fck she`s going, she knows people are getting PEPPER SPRAYED AND ROUGHED UP BY COPS
    and
    B) She thinks she`s going to change one goddamn thing by fcking camping out on the street, pissing on people`s door steps, and not showering for days on end.
    I hope to god she is reminded of her miscarriage every day and offs herself soon.
    Stupid bitch.
    The government should fcking drop a goddamn ton of powdered magnesium or something on the whole lot of them and light a match. This stupid sh*t got ridiculous after like, a few days.
    If they really want to change anything, they should run for office.
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    Bountykat Female 18-29
    399 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 8:46 pm
    Seriously. I hope she dies. For real.
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    starchsgirl Female 18-29
    41 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    Wow, bountykat, you`re ignorant. Women are told every day what NOT to do when they`re pregnant. Everything from running to riding bikes to WALKING! I agree that the protests are ridiculous, and need to stop already, but no one, not even her, deserves to have a miscarriage (if she really did). It is a very physically, mentally, and emotionally painful thing to go through. I`m sure some people would hope that you off yourself soon, too.
  124. Profile photo of Abandonnez
    Abandonnez Male 18-29
    229 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:32 pm
    Did anyone even read the post? Fox says her story is getting more and more suspicious. It also seems something like this was pulled more than 9 weeks ago, possibly by the same woman.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    By all rights, I should be able to dress up really sexy (okay, maybe a few years back) and stroll thru the scruffy alleys downtown without being bothered. I should be able to assert my right of way against aggressive drivers, order cheap prescription meds from Southeast Asia, and eat sushi at that place the inspectors have shut down three times. I should, but it would be STUPID. Just like going to a protest you know is likely to turn violent while you`re fudgeking PREGNANT! This woman was her fetus`s first protector, and she used appalling judgement.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:43 pm
    Or, y`know, maybe it was all bullshyte.
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    QueenKeika Female 18-29
    25 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 9:56 pm
    Dude,I skipped going to a concert because I was preggers. I don`t think a protest rally is any safer of a spot when they`re spraying everyone. However,we shouldn`t be spraying people for freedom of speech. I`m moving to Canada =D
  128. Profile photo of Bountykat
    Bountykat Female 18-29
    399 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 11:20 pm
    @starchsgirl I don`t give a fck what people are told. Who the fck thinks "oh, a friend told me to remain absolutely sedentary during pregnancy or I`ll shake the baby loose!"???????????? Are you fcking kidding me? Jesus Christ, this is ridiculous. If people can`t differentiate between what they should and shouldn`t do during pregnancy (i.e Walking/biking/swimming: fine and dandy, going to a protest where you could get maced/punched/beaten: bad), I personally think they deserve what their stupidity gets them. What did she think was going to happen? Sunshine and daisies? What a dumb bitch. Also, what the fck was ignorant about any of that rant? Angry? Sure. A little excessive? Okay. Unnecessary? I`ll give that to you. Ignorant? Not really. Ignorance implies lack of knowledge, and what we can all clearly tell from this story is that she is a stupid and reckless woman who deliberately put her baby`s life in danger and paid for it.
  129. Profile photo of Bountykat
    Bountykat Female 18-29
    399 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 11:23 pm
    There are a few people who I can think of who should have had miscarriages: Gadaffi`s mom, Hitler`s mom, Courtney Stodden`s mom, the mother of the woman who invented dog sweaters, etc.
  130. Profile photo of MattPrince
    MattPrince Male 40-49
    2220 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 11:34 pm
    Sounds like she made stuff up to me.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 12:06 am
    "Sounds like she made stuff up to me."

    Seconded.

    I want doctors proof. Until then, this lady is a crock, trying to make a buck/statement.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 1:45 am
    QueenKeika

    They are not spraying for freedom of speech, idiot. They are spraying them for breaking the law then resisting arrest or refusing to move on.

    They`ve had their childish whine that other people aren`t giving them everything they want. They should now bugger off and take some responsibility for themselves.
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
    1293 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 1:51 am
    Xpekt

    "We`ve seen riots before. This is a peaceful protest. I don`t see how anyone could mistake it for a riot."

    It is not a riot, but it is hardly peaceful. How many peaceful protests end up with one protester killing another? How many need special tent where women won`t get raped? How many attack a passer-by who refuses to join the protest? How many take over other people`s property, shouting down customers and refusing to leave? How many commit criminal damage? How many deliberately intimidate small children? How many threaten drivers passing in their cars, while banging on the car?

    If this is peaceful, then I would suggest that the police have just been handing out flowers, and this "miscarriage" must have just been spontaneous.
  134. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 5:27 am
    @auburnjunkie, even if she got it medically proven you`d still not believe her. You`re that kind of guy.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
    1360 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 6:28 am
    Auburnjunk,I don`t need doctors proof to know you`re an a$$hole.
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    RevWubby Male 30-39
    64 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 6:40 am
    So the Republican/Theocrat/"Pro-Life" nut-jobs will now try and have the cop send to jail on murder charges, right?
  137. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 6:45 am
    Well, well, well. Looks more and more like it was a hoax.

    Seems like she was `three months pregnant` when she was arrested in September...and was still `three months pregnant` when this happened last week.

    She has refused to provide medical records supporting her claim.

    According to her foster mother: "My daughter is a compulsive liar. She`s a wannabe drama queen."

    Occupy protester`s miscarriage claim questioned

    So, she fails to provide evidence of a miscarriage and it`s probable that she was never even pregnant.

    Sorry OWS, your attempt at a `Kent State` moment has failed due to stupidity of all involved.
  138. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    5884 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 7:03 am
    RevWubby-"will now try and have the cop send to jail on murder charges, right?"

    Why? It`s preferable to charge the person reponsible. In this case the `Mom`.

    (of course, that`s IF there ever was a baby to begin with.....it`s looking less and less likely)
  139. Profile photo of Draculya
    Draculya Male 40-49
    14544 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 8:10 am
    Why would a pregnant woman attend a rally?
  140. Profile photo of PacoP42
    PacoP42 Male 13-17
    1064 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 9:50 am
    SOMEBODY CALL THE WAH-MBULANCE!
  141. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 6:34 pm
    It wasn`t a cop that caused the miscarriage, it was DARWIN.
  142. Profile photo of SilverThread
    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    She`s homeless, insane, and ostensibly an effing liar.
  143. Profile photo of PhotoKing
    PhotoKing Male 30-39
    526 posts
    November 24, 2011 at 7:26 am
    i have a hard time buying this story. why would someone pregnant go to a place like that in the first place homeless or not. just the hygiene alone could have hurt the baby.
  144. Profile photo of mcboozerilla
    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
    646 posts
    November 24, 2011 at 6:49 pm
    Why SHOULDN`T ANYONE be able to attend a political rally in the United States of America without having to be worried about being attacked by the government??

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