Pigeon Shoot Hit And Run Update

Submitted by: Fancys_Asst 5 years ago

An update of the intentional rundown of an animal activist by a pigeon shoot minion at one of PA"s live pigeon shoots.
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Female 196
I hate people.
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Male 5
wow, pulled a gun? too bad PN isn`t a state with a stand your ground law. BLAM! conversation over.
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Male 89
pigion shooting, that sounds fun, im sick of those draters crapping on my car when i go to walmarts.
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Male 7,344
MrOrange-"if you hit someone in your car you are obliged to offer first aid...yadda, yadda, yadda."
Altaru-"You can`t just hit someone, drive off"

Is some places the cops will tell you that the first thing to do is leave the scene to find a public place, then call the cops. (especially if you just got re-ended) There are many areas where the `accident` you were just envolved in is the prelude to a carjacking, robbery or murder.

In this case, the guy has obviously been harrassing the individuals. For all the driver knew it could be a set-up to get him outside his vehicle.
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Male 7,344
Altaru-"he was standing on the grass, well out of the way. "

Well, seeing as the van never left the roadway, I doublt he was `well out of the way`.

Altaru-"there`s a police department"

Which is great for getting something done in a few days.

Altaru-"Pointing a gun at them or assaulting them, especially in public like in the one video, is not cool. "

The guy with the camera was harrassing people. The people have the right to harrass back. (It`s not smart to annoying some folks.)

Altaru-don`t deserve to be treated like human beings."

The videographer was being treated in just the way he was treating others. Annoy someone, and you`re likely to get annoyed back.
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Male 2,033
@MrOrange

I never mentioned anything about where the guy was standing. I said that there is no video evidence of him being hit, and that is all. unless you have access to all of the footage he cropped out, perhaps? Another angle maybe? No?

The guys own website details his 1996 arrest and imprisonment for harassment. It also talks about his restraining order.


So...yeah.
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Male 168
should have ended him.
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Male 886
I would end them for touching me.
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Male 2,796
I just did a quick Google search to see if there are any professional news sources for any of this and literally just came up with nothing but activist and propaganda websites. Already I can see if I were to dig deeper the likely conclusion would be that these are activists slanting the truth to their cause.

BTW I abhore killing animals for sport.
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Male 2,796
I agree with SlothofDoom`s tact. In that, just like the Texas Judge, there is always more to the story and people are mindless drating morons to take one persons slant and treat it as fact without looking for any other evidence.

The ONLY reason I have not posted much on this topic is that it is too convoluted for me to want to research the people and laws. (The Texas Judge was very easy in comparison.)

The bottom line is, if you dig, there is always more than what meets the eye. If you take one persons bias as fact without any research of your own... you are a drating clown.
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Male 554
It`s a freakin sh*t hawk! Kill em all!
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Male 356
I do not concern about those pigeons at all, but evidently some of the people filmed are ******
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Male 645
I dont give 2 poos about these people killing pigeons or these people protesting it!
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Male 2,416
@SlothOfDoom
and you sound like a complete moron to me for calling people with another point of view idiots,
you also sound like a moron because you can`t deduce from the view of the camera that the guy is standing on the grass and not in the driveway, are you that stupid you cant see that? how thick must you be to argue that that guy must have been doing it for 15 years? if he had, he would have had a restraining order by now right? or the cops would have hauled his ass away for disturbance of the peace for gods sake man how dumb can you be!

if you would like this point of view without the name calling, i suggest you read Newton`s laws of motion.
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Male 14,330
DIS IS THE NRAS FAULT CAUSE THEYRE NRA MEMBERZ AND GUNZ IZ BADZ!!
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Male 1,737
Blood near the end looked fake, I couldn`t see any wound that would bleed like that. It looks like someone took an eye dropper and dripped it down his head.

Why would you follow people like this if you know it`s going to piss them off. I`m starting to think the guy wasn`t drunk and hit him on purpose out of anger. Perhaps the cops receive more complaints for the cameramen than the so called pigeon shooters.

That`s the issue with stories like these, you never know the whole truth and can only guess.
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Male 2,033
The video that we all just watched is not evidence of anything. The cameraman is not visible in it, all we see is a car drive by, the camera shakes and the cameraman screams that he has been hit. I can shake my camera and scream at cars too, does that mean I can start getting anyone I don`t like charged with a crime? because that would be awesome.

The reason the cops don`t take this guy seriously probably has nothing to do with payoffs, and everything to do with the fact that he has a fifteen year history of harassing these people, and breaking the law to do it.

Personally, I think pigeon shooting is idiotic, but moron extremists never help anything. Everyone jumping to this guys defense sound like idiots to me, since none of their "arguments" are based in reality. It is like debating fundie Christians ffs.
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Male 17,512
Altaru: It`s only your opinion, that the driver `swerved` or meant to intentionally hit the camera guy. Just as it is my opinion that said camera guy stood on the pavement looking to get hit in that way.

But the law asks questions, like who was in the in the wrong first ? It is obvious the camera guy was violating the law first performing illegal surveillance. One reason he was so close was because he was trying to get pictures of the hunters faces to `shame` them.

Btw, would you think it right for someone to hang out outside a gay bar and take pictures of the customers going in and out and use those pictures of peoples faces on a `shame` website ? I seriously doubt you would.
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Male 157
I slap your kids, no biggy, minor offense.
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Male 5,190
What I got from this is "I`m a pigeon shooter and I`m too much of a pussy to admit it."

I have no problem with it, though I wouldn`t do it myself, as long as it`s in moderation.
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Male 14,330
OH NOEZ DEY HAVE GUNZ DEYZ RICH AND EVILZ!!!Let harass them everyday and only use the footage of them loosing it that`s fair and balanced.
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Male 5,009
C_Frost i guess you are looking Smurfs in 3D when you say "there were no injuries". If you look this video untill the end you can clearly see at least one head covered in blood.
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Male 411
That`s effed up.
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Male 3,482
And as Orange just pointed out, any law enforcement agency worth it`s pay would find reasonable suspicion, especially with the video as evidence, that the driver deliberately attempted to hit the camera man.

That would be considered, again by any law enforcement agency worth it`s pay, assault with a deadly weapon, as Orange said.

But of course, they ARE worth their pay: the pay they`re getting from the rich pricks in the "hunting" club.

The fact is, there is a justice system. If these rich asshats didn`t think they were above it, they could easily use it to get rid of this protester bunch. Hell, they obviously have the cops in their wallets anyway.

Instead, they`ve decided that they`re going to take the law in their own hands and BREAK THE LAW to try and get rid of the problem.

Of course, as you can see here, the problem with that strategy is that it makes them criminals, and gives the protesters even more reason to b*tch.
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Male 3,482
[quote]Altaru: Also you claimed this was `Hit n Run`, but where did the truck owner `Run` to ? He stayed on the same property the whole time and did not attempt to leave the property or allude the police.[/quote]
Crakr, it`s considered a Hit and Run if you don`t stop and identify yourself. That`s the criteria, and it`s illegal.

You can`t just hit someone, drive off and go about your business like nothing happened. Even if you do "stay on the same property." That`s like saying I could hit someone in the parking lot at Wal-Mart, leave them bleeding all over the pavement, and just go about my shopping.

If you don`t know this basic rule of the road, then I don`t feel safe out there knowing that your dumb ass is operating a motor vehicle.
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Male 2,416
@CrakrJak

well over here, if you hit someone in your car you are obliged to offer first aid, call an ambulance, and wait for the cops or fill out your insurance claims. i doubt that the states are much differnt, but hey hit and run is indeed a misnomer, since the car swerved deliberatly towards the person, so it`s assault, since cars can be lethal i`d even say assault with a deadly weapon.
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Male 2,416
@CrakrJak

Even if the azzmonkey was in the wrong, i`m not up to date with american law and or Pennsylvania law. Then you call the cops and have his ass arrested, this is not a situation that warrants taking the law in your own hand, if someone was being hurt, then you have my grattitude for helping out but in this case the actions are not justified by the situation. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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Male 17,512
Altaru: Also you claimed this was `Hit n Run`, but where did the truck owner `Run` to ? He stayed on the same property the whole time and did not attempt to leave the property or allude the police.

So the term `Hit n Run` used in this case is a misnomer.
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Male 17,512
Altaru: I don`t agree with `caged hunts` I think they are stupid, better to shoot clays than this.

But it`s their right to hunt that way, and pigeons aren`t endangered, they are actually pests that are a cause of diseases.

What I despise even more are the jagweed PETA types that purposefully create drama, like this, and then claim total innocence.
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Male 3,482
And even if he WERE standing out in the middle of the driveway, that does NOT stop the incident from being a HIT AND RUN, which is ILLEGAL in ANY STATE.

Even if the assh*le jumps in front of your car, you stop and go through the motions. Then the assh*le has nothing to b*tch about, and you haven`t done anything wrong.

There is a justice system in America for a reason, and if the hunting club pricks were to go through it, this assh*le would probably be in jail and out of their hair anyway.

But no, as usual in cases like this, money means more than law and order.

And apparently it makes you stupid and pathetic too in this case, considering that they have to shoot animals that have been trapped and are being released from cages instead of, you know, HUNTING like real men.
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Male 3,482
[quote]MrOrange: This `azzmonkey` with the camera shouldn`t be standing on a driveway`s pavement trying to block traffic on private property. [/quote]
From what I saw, he was standing on the grass, well out of the way. You could`ve pulled a semi around the guy without touching him, unless you were a terrible driver and shouldn`t be on the road anyway.

You need your eyes checked.

As for the electronic surveillance, that`s why there`s a police department and things called "restraining orders."

Just because you have money and a gun doesn`t put you above the law. Pointing a gun at them or assaulting them, especially in public like in the one video, is not cool.

Of course, all I see spewing out of you is typical conservative logic.

"Only the people that agree with my position have rights. The rest are all scum and don`t deserve to be treated like human beings."
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Male 4,902
"SHARK"? LMAO! I think you mean SARK
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Male 17,512
MrOrange: This `azzmonkey` with the camera shouldn`t be standing on a driveway`s pavement trying to block traffic on private property.

Besides that, Pennsylvania has a two/all party consent rule when it comes to electronic surveillance, which means this `azzmonkey` with the camera is violating the law. Pennsylvania AG website link
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Female 1,112
I gotta admit. The hit and run was disgusting. But the secondary point of this video, rediculous. Seriously, you camp out on private property, take video of private citizens and expect them not to do anything? I wonder if they had tresspassed at all? And for the record... (oh boy)free speech is dumb.
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Male 2,416
Some of the comments here, *shakes head*
some of you people... you claim to be a democrazy you claim freedom of speech etc.. but when it is someone with a differnt opinion then yours well then he deserved assault with a deadly weapon!

@CrakrJak i remember a few posts ago you said you cop a lot of flak for your opinions, i said i would refrain from insulting you so i will, but dude! wether or not you agree with his opinion, wether or not he was a class A assmonkey doesn`t justify the assault.
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Male 432
am i the only one who thought that this was absurd and almost hilarious? i mean obviously not the hit and run or assaults, but just that this guy feels like he`s some great power over the world? The pigeon shooters are powerful and wealthy? They`re not congressman or anything, they`re just people with guns. it`s not cool, but don`t get a powertrip over your position dude. :p
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Male 37,888

So this PETA loving, tree hugging libretard shows up in rural small town USA for the sole purpose of herassing local hunters and he thinks they won`t herass back? As the imortal Bugs Bunny said "What a maroon!"

The hit-n-run was a bit over the top but he wasn`t really hurt.
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Male 163
fake blood at 2:30
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Male 3,482
Who CARES if it`s f*cking pigeons?

The issue here is that these "proud hunters" are acting like p*ssies and assh*les and getting away with it, threatening a group of activists, with WEAPONS at times. Pointing a gun at someone with a camera and saying "get on the ground" doesn`t seem like protecting ones self to me, it sounds like Threatening with a Deadly Weapon.

I don`t give a f*ck about pigeons, let the bastards shoot them, but when they start threatening people with guns over said people`s RIGHT to express an opinion opposite theirs, that`s bullsh*t for starters, and ILLEGAL all around.

But, as with everything else in this world, apparently money is more important than law and order.

America is no Republic. It`s a Plutocracy. And sh*t like this just goes to prove it.
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Male 3,482
Putting all personal opinion aside...

That is a clear hit & run, because he just kept going.

Which is ILLEGAL, in case you stupid f*cks don`t realize that.

Leaving the scene of an accident, no matter how "minor" it may seem, is ILLEGAL. I learned that from the goddamn book I had to study to get my license, and if you morons don`t know that, you should have to take the tests again until it`s drilled into your skulls.

The "don`t take my picture" guy... There`s absolutely no law that I know of preventing someone on public property (which, guess what, the road he was parked on the shoulder of was) from taking pictures. How do you think the Google Street-View car gets away with it?

If, indeed, there were, I highly doubt it gives anyone the right to run up and start trying to take the camera-man`s personal property, or commit assault.

And the gun incident? Yeah, that`s just straight up bullsh*t. He should have gone
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Male 2,737
Hey Steve, maybe if you didn`t act like an a**hole, you wouldn`t be treated like one. They`re just f*cking pigeons. Who f*cking cares? Would you be pulling this crap if it was a rat shoot? You idiot.
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Male 550
When people start taking advantage of their power, that`s when you grab a bat and knock them off their high horse.
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Male 144
I have to side with pigeon shooters, here. I would not feel bad about peppering these quasi photo jouranists, if only the shooters could change the field and aim at pigeons while shooting these wastes of resources. Again, long live the US and hopefully Texas even longer.

That aside, I know what it takes to knowck back the side mirror of a minivan. If he felt like he was hit, then he should complain about gusts of wind over 100 mph. How do you ticket that. A small branch would knock the mirror back at 50. The fat of a mans love handle would do the trick at 1 mph. Is the crime here the drivers fualt or the fatty who step in the way?
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Male 2,033
The narrator just sounds like a total drating prick. I know nothing about him, but I have a feeling I would happily beat his face in with a lead pipe
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Male 106
I guess its ironic that my first instinct is to tell the guy to get a conceal and carry permit and shoot the next mother drater who tries to run him down or assault him... sorry, I forget not every state is texas.
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Male 208
Let me say first of all, I am okay with pigeon shoots....

But

The asses who cant handle their picture taken, whom cant stand up like men and say that they do this and are proud.

Those who abuse the public for having cameras... Oh,,, Those guys can go to hell.

Dont blame the whole NRA community for a few jerks though, we dont blame occupy wal street for a few rapists.
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Male 17,512
non-nice individual with camera was standing on the pavement of the driveway, and he wonders why he got hit.
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Male 621
DJL - It`s quite clear the guy came off the road and aimed to hit him. It was hardly him sticking his elbow out. At the same time, they do seem to both those people a lot. Not that agree with it. I think its all disgusting. However, a guy pulling a gun? Surly that`s not allowed, and if it is your country sucks ass.
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Male 14,774
Cameraman is lucky he wasn`t shot on private property.
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Male 87
I can`t figure out what he likes less, shooting birds or pennsylvainia.
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Male 134
So the guy sticks his elbow out as the car is passing and calls it a hit-and-run. I`m not saying that`s what happened but...
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Male 136
@orchideous I guess we are looking at diffrent video. I don`t see any injury or damage to any person or thing. I see a car and someone yelling.
@ evenbartlett I guess tieing a rope around an anilmals testicals and jumping on their back day after day for years is a much better way to treat animals
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Male 559
Really!? Really? This is to what we are resorting now? I guess I forgot that there were portions of the country where releasing weak and defenseless animals from cages and then shooting them was considered fun and sporting. Wow...I`m so happy I live where I do.
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Male 361
@ C Frost

The video shows a clear Hit and Run, even if someone jumps infront of your car, you`re supposed to stop.

These people are sickening, does that much money really make you believe you`re something special?

I bet a lot of these people call themselves religious too, and celebrate thanks giving, are they so naive to believe their "God" would look down upon this as okay, pure?
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Male 219
What this video fails to tell you is that this is the 4th `video` that the good Mr. Hindi has tried to mock up showing a hit and run against his organization in a year...he was arrested on one of the attempts for jumping in front of a truck. In every account...including this one...no record of police involvement can be found...honestly folks, check a few databases before you start to tout this guys banner. Crap like his is not beneficial to the cause, if anything it hurts it.
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Male 612
thats some grade-A left wing propaganda right there.

and a pretty poor acronym because they had to force the "H" to make it a word.
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Male 238
see the problem is the activist is white, if he took a black guy with him in these videos it`d be a diff story. first time one of those old rich guys touches the black guy-BOOM Hate crime! no more pigeon shooting.
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Male 683
I <3 Pennsylvania
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Male 136
the only thing the video shows is a guy driving on the soft shoulder. there were no injuries. what did they think would happen? there is a reason there is no sidewalk there. the guy making the vidoe should have got a ticket as well. how long doyou think these people were harassing the gun club for them to react that way.
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Male 109
How damn boring shooting something thats already captured....
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Male 41
I have to admit, the generous proportion of troglodytes, imbeciles, and numb-skulls on I-A-B is truly fascinating.
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Male 1,471
It`s just pidgeons.. Pidgeons are pooty animals.. But i gotta hand it to him though, those rich guys are real dicks, and shouldn`t be able to get away with that poo..
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Male 5,009
Yep the problem here is not the pigeon, but the arrogance and the violence showed by that cowards "hunters"
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Male 768
Don`t care about the pigeons, but some of that other stuff should have entailed some jail time or extremely heavy fines.
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Male 2,796
Yeah if the video is the correct story then the people should be brought to justice. I am hoping there is something else going on that I am not aware of.
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Male 159
hahaha.... best thing i have seen all day...

i would pay 342$ weekly just to run over that bleeding heart liberal...

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Male 255
i couldn`t care less about dead birds. a guy hits me, my $3000 camera, or pulls a gun on me for holding said camera in a public place, i`m gonna do some killing of my own.
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Male 321
Stupid animal rights pansies. They should make that guy run in a field and then shoot at him!
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Male 7,378
I like this guy. I`m going to donate to his cause.
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Male 164
I`m moving to Pennsylvania!
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Male 5,009
Seriously guys WTF is wrong with your people?
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Male 28
wtf, i don`t under stand whats the problem, there stupid birds, mabye if you left them alone they would leave you alone, it looks like there defending themselfs and tire of your stupid ass.
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Male 2,690
Okay this is drated up. Apparently you can go hit someone with your car for the right price!
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Female 1,780
Link: Pigeon Shoot Hit And Run Update [Rate Link] - An update of the intentional rundown of an animal activist by a pigeon shoot minion at one of PA`s live pigeon shoots.
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