Occupy San Diego Arrest: Keep Walking, Hippie

Submitted by: burbclaver 5 years ago

Apparently, if you"re standing on a sidewalk--an empty sidewalk--and you"re not moving, you"re blocking said sidewalk.
There are 52 comments:
Male 526
i`m not seeing the rest of the story here. for all i know he said hey pig you smell, blah blah blah insert better insult here. turn on camera, cop says i can`t get him with the words he said so i`ll make something else up.
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Male 4,902
Gee I wonder what happened before the 25 second clip.
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Male 282
You know your life sucks when you sign up to be a scum sucking fascist.
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Male 303
@Liquidglass
"guilty of loitering"
you actually believe that crap? standing in a public area and not moving is not illegal. Even if there is a sign that says so.

The intent of the law is to keep people from sitting down with a cup and asking for money. or making their home on the sidewalk. It`s not so the cops can arrest whoever they want that is not "keeping it moving"
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Male 303
sad that cops actually feel they can arrest someone for something like this
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Male 296
Corpsecrank, you`re a dumbass. If a cop pulls you over and says you were speeding, and you say, "Are you sure? How fast was I going?" that`s not resisting arrest. All the guy did was ask why he couldn`t stand there, and the cop arrested him. That`s not resisting arrest.
On the other hand, this is definitely out of contest, something happened before this or there would be more that 25 seconds of the video.
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Male 7,378
Be a mindless, compliant, automaton like Corpsecrank.
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Male 928
Well regardless of context this video clearly showed resisting arrest when he failed to immediately comply to the officer`s directions. As soon as he questioned the orders he was resisting arrest that is how the law is written and he should have followed orders. If he had then his video may have been used to make a complaint.
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Male 1,397
Hey...if you`ve nothing to hide, you`ve nothing to fear. Keep chanting this, and it will lead to a safe and happy future.
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Male 5,811
Out of context video might be out of context. However, 2-4 people on a sidewalk is not blocking the sidewalk. Nice job, serpico.
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Male 1,931
Obviously they had some type of communication prior to this incident and it is edited to the very end. So, it is probably out of context. But it is still upsetting to see this.
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Male 83
My response has already been covered by the Clash...

Know your Rights
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Male 1,111
Threat or not he could be guilty of loitering which they should have informed him of. But it is cause for an arrest and fine if notices are properly displayed.
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Male 322
I guess you can`t wait for a taxi anymore...
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Male 3,412
skine, I`m not disagreeing with that.

I`m only rationalizing the actions of the business owner, not the actions of the police.
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Male 3,310
Lucky2u, you have made the fallacy of try to use logic and reason on IAB. I will have you banned if this course of behavior continues.
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Male 315
Without the minutes leading up to that, how can people side with him?
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Male 719
@Duck: He wasn`t infringing on anyone`s rights.

The business owner may have the right to protect his business (to the extent that the law allows). However, there`s a huge difference between a perceived threat and an actual one.

When the police realized that he`s just an idiot standing on the sidewalk who posed zero threat, they should have walked away.
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Male 57
Shamazia its definitely the people who blindly obey. Sheeple begging for their rights to be taken away and they don`t even see they are doing it. They don`t see it at all.......
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Male 37,888

@ madest - nice call-out but I`m not falling for it. I can`t get arrested! Do you know what happens to soft, balding republicans in prison? It aint a prom date!

Anyway, the city is claiming the Occupy San Diego protest has cost it 2.4 million dollars so far. Mostly for paying police overtime. I find that number hard to believe but even if it`s true so what. They would just waste the money somewhere else. Recently, for example, the city councel approved a $500,000.00 needs assessment to determine if they should add colored lights to the Coronado Bridge. A half a million bucks to think about colored light bulbs.

So as I said, they`d just waste the money, I`m on the protestors side.
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Male 236
It`s funny to see the idiots defending these police time after time who are being nothing more than bullies. I don`t know what`s worse, our police force blindly enforcing what they`re told, or you sheep who blindly obey..
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Male 3,310
Duh, it`s called a sidewalk, not a sidestand
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Male 2,841
Totally legit.
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Male 7,378
What do you got to lose Gerry? That blog you sweat over? Those model sci-fi spaceships? That is indeed exactly what you should be doing. In fact it may be your only option.
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Male 37,888

It`s all catch and release. The cops take you in but release you because they have nothing to charge you with. But it has stopped the Occupy San Diego crowd.

It`s a lawsuit waiting to happen. The city council is violating the righst to peacable assembly and free speach. But I have said for years we have the dumbest city council I`ve ever seen so it should be a good show.

If I could count on anyone to bail me out I`d volunteer to get arrested and sue the city. But I don`t see you guys taking up a colletion for me so . . . maybe not today.
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Male 10,339
"the police have no legal right to tell someone to keep walking on a public side walk"

Yes, yes they do. Loitering is a public crime in virtually every city.

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Male 936
"to be fair he asked/told him nicely to move along....... shoulda listened...."


you must be retarded. the police have no legal right to tell someone to keep walking on a public side walk
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Male 66
also staged. wow OWS, ur getting desperate.
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Male 759
the fine art of editting
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Male 3,412
piper you didn`t annoy me. I like to be extremely thorough when trying to explain things.

But what I`m trying to get at is your rights end at the tip of my nose: meaning, you have all the basic human rights you are allowed until they infringe upon someone else`s rights.

This guy was infringing upon the business owner`s right to protect his property from someone who could be dangerous.
It`s preempting a situation. Better safe than sorry, kind of deal.
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Male 5,006
Oh also the tree is blocking the sidewalk, maybe the cops must proced on arresting also that shadowy and potential dangerous vegetable.
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Male 5,006
so i guess we all should learn how to levitate so we will not break any local law. that would be perfectly fine?
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Male 612
so i guess i should be allowed to just park my vehicle in an empty highway lane. that would be perfectly fine?
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Male 5,006
DuckBoy87 mine was just a question was not intended to annoy you. In any case if the owner of the local was concerned about "shadowy" figures that are "potential"dangerous individual outside his building maybe were better to call the ghostbusters:-)
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Male 3,412
piper, did I say sidewalks were private property?
No.

I said that the owners of the buildings felt threatened by the presence of a potential dangerous individual who was standing outside of their private property.

And donax pretty much confirmed that my assumption was correct.
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Male 147
I see cops blocking the sidewalk.
I also learned that asking a legitimate question gets us arrested. What a beautiful world.
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Male 208
This sh*ts getting out of control.
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Male 40
That was awesome. If you disobey the order of a police officer, you can be arrested. If you`re a dick to an officer who gives you an order, you will definitely be arrested. I`m OK with this.
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Male 14
HA I was there I saw what happened. They were standing outside a restaurant. The owner/management of the restaurant asked them to move because he was blocking the entrance. They still stood there and when the cops showed up started spouting rhetoric about a free country and all that jazz(which they are allowed to do to be fair) but they were asked politely to move along. NOT EVEN LEAVE just move from in front of the restaurant.
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Male 5,006
DuckBoy87 i`m just asking, sidewalks are considered private properties?
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Male 3,412
I could tell you what happened prior to the start of this video: guy decides to be edgy and stand on an empty sidewalk. Residents/small business owners see shadowy figure just standing there. Residents/small business owners assume the worst, and who wouldn`t with all the riots these protests lead to, and call the cops to remove a potentially great threat to their livelihood. Cops remove said shadowy figure because he failed to comply.

Right or wrong, by him standing out there and the people of that area seeing him as a threat he needed to go. He was violating the building owners` rights. The right to property and keeping it safe.

That of course only works in my assumed scenario.
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Male 159
to be fair he asked/told him nicely to move along....... shoulda listened....
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Male 6,737
@CaptKangaroo Truth hurts dude.
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Male 5,006
CaptKangaroo where i live i don`t have any record of a similar situation. Maybe cause we are less democratic than you?
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Male 1,091
Blocking the sidewalk? He`s not a truck...
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Male 1,083
thou shalt not loiter!
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Male 2,631
@Piperfawn- Don`t know where in Europe you are from and it doesn`t really matter. Take a look at the track record where YOU live and STFU.
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Male 5,006
AH! The great AMERICA , the land of freedom. You are teaching what the democracy is to the rest of the world, good job."Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances" What`s the problem on understanding this wise words?
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Male 147
I see cops blocking the sidewalk.
I also learned that asking a legitimate question gets us arrested. What a beautiful world.
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Female 1,386

Snarkiness works with pushover parents, not cops.

I wonder what was going on before the video started. (You know this isn`t all there is to the story.)
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Male 878
Link: Occupy San Diego Arrest: Keep Walking, Hippie [Rate Link] - Apparently, if you`re standing on a sidewalk--an empty sidewalk--and you`re not moving, you`re blocking said sidewalk.
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