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  1. Profile photo of LittleMissQT
    LittleMissQT Female 18-29
    1266 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 10:07 am
    Link: Obama On America And Protesters - We haven`t heard much from Obama about the country-wide Occupy Wall Street protests, have we? It`s your watch, Barry.
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:14 am
    **Except here.

    I think someone cropped that fine print out. ;)
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    simbha Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:17 am
    It`s a fair point, but...

    In Egypt, law enforcement is actually controlled by the Ministry of the Interior - in other words, at the federal level.

    The issues people are having with the police regarding OWS are seemingly with local law enforecement. There have been accusations that the DHS coordinated the crackdown last week, but I haven`t read further to know whether this is actually the case. If it is, the statement pointing out hypocrisy made in the post is justified IMO.
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:26 am
    Keyword: PEACEFUL protesters.

    There`s nothing peaceful about forcibly blocking traffic or vandalizing streets.

    Also, you cannot divorce a point from a context and expect it to remain the same. Case in point: Egypt was an Islamic dictatorship with oppressive Sharia law and the protesters were fighting for freedom. The OWS protesters don`t want a smaller government that respects the rights of all; they want a bigger government with more controls.

    There`s such thing as a good protest (Egypt) and a bad protest (OWS). This is an irrelevant point, really as just because the Egypt protest was good doesn`t mean OWS is good.

    Why was no one complaining when the neo-Nazi protest in Illinois was broken up by the police? I bet the people who said "good riddance" when the Nazis were arrested are the same people who cheered on the tree-huggers for blocking streets.

    TL;DR: Protests are fine, until vandalism, blocking traffic or any kind of force i
  5. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 10:27 am
    ...is used.

    The OWS cops are simply using force to respond to force being initiated by the protesters i.e. they`re using force appropriately.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:29 am
    Last couple of nights there were 20 killed and 1000+ injured in Egypt.
    3500 killed this year in Syria (says the UN).

    The OWS sissies can`t hold a candle to real protest, they`re fakes and phonies.

    Perhaps Obama will ask for NATO airstrikes on Ney York City? Naw, no oil there...
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    tatervent Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:31 am
    Obama controls all U.S. police departments apparently... This is dumb.
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    HtF Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:33 am
    A) The OWS people haven`t always exactly been `peaceful`
    B) Pepper spray and tear gas and picking up and carrying aren`t exactly violence on the same scale as the violence done to the Egyptian protesters.
    C) It`s a little disingenuous to equate a bunch of angry upper-middle-class white college graduates getting mad because the police got pepper spray on their powerbooks while they were blocking a street and harassing passers-by with the struggle and violence of the Egyptian people.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Ok, so 1,000`s have died protesting in Egypt and Syria, but good god they scratched this man`s IPad and made him spill his $5 Latte!
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    arimus Male 13-17
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:45 am
    @M Archer
    Cause sitting down and linking arms on a sidewalk is such a threatening posture that deserves the use of pepper spray. Have you been hit with pepper spray? It f**king hurts!
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    LoofahBoy Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:49 am
    I was wondering this myself.
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    Student_Law Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2011 at 10:53 am
    M_Archer: Protesting often requires traffic disturbance etc., and it`s also legal; considering the fact that constitutional rights are above (lex superior) traffic law. Simple as that :-) So your argument is invalid. You are not the only one who point at the difference in reality regarding Egypt/USA. Now in a manner it`s a good point - but the right to protest, and especially the right to criticize the government enjoys strong protection in all free nations.

    Now, the polices` use of force is also illegal, and definitely not necessary. I have yet to see a protester represent a threat that can excuse violence from the authorities. Most of them are sitting on their street or walking on their streets while being sprayed.

    The saddest thing however, is when people are apologetic about violence towards their fellow citizens. One thing is to disagree politically. But not to condone violence against your opponents.. it`s just low...
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 11:04 am
    double standards, double standards everywhere
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 21, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I see butt crack!

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    Tekinette Male 30-39
    273 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:06 am
    We live in a society that promotes greed, the good of a country doesn`t exist, it`s the good of one`s self that matters. And those with the most money get the most power, they get to influence the making of the rules, rules that will of course benefit their greed and detriment others.

    People protest this downfall of society and there`s still people cheering for the cops arresting them which is just showing how far this society of greed and selfishness has come to.
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 11:07 am
    the difference is that the protestors in Egypt had a reason to protest.
  17. Profile photo of MCMXCIII
    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 11:10 am
    It seems like M_Archer did not follow the Egyptian protest at all. If throwing rocks qualifies as "peaceful", then the OWS protesters must be saints.
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    Kimrn89 Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 11:12 am
    Student_law: How many post`s do you have? =0
    poo ass!
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    Victim Male 70 & Over
    219 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:21 am
    Protesting often requires traffic disturbance etc., and it`s also legal; considering the fact that constitutional rights are above (lex superior) traffic law. Simple as that :)


    lol no, you break a law you go to jail/get a ticket

    simple as that
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    last1in Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 11:22 am
    I don`t see any violence in that pic. No blood, no bruising, no GSW, all good...
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
    506 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:24 am
    Not that I believe any of these people needed to be pepper-sprayed, maced, beat with nightsticks, or shot with bean-bags...but these are all non-lethal things.

    Meanwhile, in other parts of world people are literally being killed for standing up and speaking out.

    Let`s keep a semblance of perspective here. I too want to see these officers investigated for excessive force, but comparing this to what happened in Egypt or Lybia is an insult.
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    Lameworld Male 18-29
    51 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:28 am
    @Ruffiana thank you
  23. Profile photo of Student_Law
    Student_Law Male 30-39
    1010 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:38 am
    @kimrn: you are clearly drunk. Or can`t find your way around the keyboard...idk. Do more research :-)

    @Victim: sorry mate, it`s not that simple. Actually there are many sorts of ways to avoid traffic law, in these contexts - parades, private entrepreneurs (while building) and emergencies in general can help you void them.

    As a matter of fact, in very few situations, the right to obstruct traffic are constitutional and hereby even more protected. Guess what :-)
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    HtF Female 18-29
    53 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:52 am
    @Student_Law: All those things require permits.

    Your latest vacuous argument has been voided, next please.
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
    1231 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    I`d like to see the build up to this to see exactly what he did to deserve pepper spraying. Stopping traffic? really? What are OWS meant to do? go to a place where they wont get in anyones way or be noticed? That sort of defies the point of a protest. Oh and to everyone saying OWS are nothing like the Egyptian protests they are actually pretty similar. I sat down with an Egyptian bloke while I lived there for 3 months, and talked about politics and economics. Turns out we actually have a lot in common...
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    There is no violence in this pic. There is someone being arrested for breaking the law.
  27. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    @Student_Law: I think you`re misinterpreting the Constitution. The Constitution does not say that your rights are above traffic law; it says that Congress can make no law prohibiting protesting.

    This means that you`re allowed to protest on your own time and money on private property with the owner`s consent without fear of retribution from the government. The founders did not mean that you have the right to forcibly occupy public streets. For example, do I have the right to forcibly come into your house and hold a protest? Why not? Because your right to freedom of speech does not mean that people are forced to provide a platform to you, or listen to you.

    You have the right to freedom of speech, but you do not have the right to use force to exercise your freedom of speech; that`s a contradiction.
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    pollyand Female 18-29
    20 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    Practice what you preach is my philosophy .
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 21, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    This talk of law breaking and force is very amusing.

    I think Margaret Sanger said it best: "...Throughout all the ages, the beacon lights of human progress have been lit by the law-breaker. Moses, the deliverer, was a law-breaker. Christ, the carpenter, was a law-breaker and his early followers practiced their religion in defiance of the law of their time. Joan of Arc was a law-breaker. So, too, were George Washington and the heroes of the American Revolution...Humanity and justice have been displaced by a legal despotism, the chief concern of which is the protection of established interests."
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    "but these are all non-lethal things. "

    really? non-lethal? last i checked firing a 40mm grenade launcher at a person`s face was far from non-lethal...
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    sosueme1966 Male 40-49
    439 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    Please, please stop comparing what our police are doing to what government forces in the Arab world are doing. Check out the video here showing protestors in Tahir Square literally being beaten to death.
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    Melderon Male 18-29
    23 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    Being in Law Enforcement, I think I may have a unique perspective on this issue. Are there bad cops out there - absolutely! However, I`m willing to bet that their is a similar proportion of "bad" people in every respective group. That being said, for the vast majority of issues, cops don`t just throw people down for no good reason. Also, another issue that seems to be overlooked: Unless you have personally been in a situation of imminent danger where adreneline levels are extremely high, please refrain from making comments like, "How could he/she do that" and other comments of the like. If you have never been in similar circumstances, then you really can`t judge.
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    kevofcal99 Male 40-49
    9 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    You can`t compare the two... In Egypt they are fighting for the rights we are granted... as for the occupy poeple... we have always been fighting "the man" and always will be, because if one of the "99 percenters" suddenly found them selves in the 1% ... would they want to give it up?... We all sing kum-ba-ya... and save the whales... I would dare some rich guy to go to the protests and offer some "bribes" to see who would take the cash and leave?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    31783 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    vv @student_law: So the protesters have a right to block stuff? OK lets just check their permit to make sure... oh right! lolz!

    (hint: they have NO permits at all, ALL OWS protests are by definition illegal)
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    mcssls Female 70 & Over
    695 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    ummm, why don`t we have that right in the US anymore?
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    i-am-evil Male 18-29
    510 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    Peaceful assembly is allowed, but you can`t hold public spaces hostage like the OWS protestors.
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    ctobin34 Male 18-29
    66 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 5:25 pm
    is the poster actually trying to compare the Egyptian rebellion and OWS? Thats hilarious.
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    alsobored Male 18-29
    347 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    Guys, the OWS protest was inspired by the Egyptian one, it was kinda a "me too".

    The amusing thing the way I see it, is that your president hasn`t said anything about the current protests, but has said this statement in the picture.
    Doesn`t matter if it`s exactly the same situation, it`s similar at least.

    Similar is close enough to make it ironic.

    Notice the people in these comments who are against the picture are from the US.(+Canada)
    They`re just desperately trying to defend the nation`s reputation.
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    ctobin34 Male 18-29
    66 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 6:12 pm
    @alsobored - that`s what makes us American. Pride. Both in country & in oneself. Maybe if other countries try it you`ll one day be as successful as us.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 6:39 pm
    Oh look, some jerk who tried to loot a store got arrested. That`s totally the same as Syrians getting run over by tanks in the street.
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    November 21, 2011 at 7:36 pm
    @SarahOfBorg: Oh look, a bunch of students who were pacifically protesting and got physically attacked by the police, that`s totally not the comparable to Syrians getting run over by tanks

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    C_Frost Male 30-39
    129 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    look at the video posted today 33 dead. any body that thinks there are ANY similarities to ows and whars going on in egypt should be ashamed. gtfo
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    TheOrigin Male 18-29
    500 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 10:29 pm
    @ctobin34 Isn`t pride one of the seven deadly sins, Mr holier than thou american? Does it not precede fall?

    By successful you mean national debt over 100% of GDP?

    Please remove your head from your rectum and try to take a sober look around if possible.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
    3775 posts
    November 21, 2011 at 11:33 pm
    and because there is no viable candidate of any party who can defeat obama we are in for another four years of ineffectual leadership and chaotic financial ruin.

    it sucks to be my age but its really going to suck for you young people who have to put up with the consequences of this government.
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    Lucky2u Male 18-29
    315 posts
    November 22, 2011 at 12:24 am
    Yea cause the situations are totally the same...
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 4:20 am
    @Slut etta: Gingrich, Cain, and Romney can all beat Obama. You can be certain one of them will get the nomination.

    Obama is an empty suit warming a seat for one of them at this point. SNL is even making fun of him now. Not a good sign, as they rarely make fun of a liberal`s policies.
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    youlikeicecr Male 30-39
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    November 22, 2011 at 10:41 am
    A full stop then a capital A ? Really?
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    DShephard Male 18-29
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    November 22, 2011 at 8:35 pm
    I wonder what he did to deserve his arrest.
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    tehbionic Female 18-29
    313 posts
    November 23, 2011 at 7:36 pm
    What`s happening in Egypt isn`t the same as a bunch of entitled non-nice individual hippies clogging up private property that ignore requests to leave because they`re `special` and `have a voice`. I wish I had mommy and daddy to support me while I ignore responsibility.
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    @alsobored - that`s what makes us American. Pride. Both in country & in oneself. Maybe if other countries try it you`ll one day be as successful as us.

    ...successful...like $15 trillion of debt and a country run by bankers insurance conglomerates and corporations? I`m not saying the rest of the world is in any better shape (apart from Germany) but dude, come on!

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