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52 Responses to Man Fired For Refusing To Wear A 666 Sticker

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 24, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    Link: Man Fired For Refusing To Wear A 666 Sticker - Was he fired for violating policy or is it religious discrimination?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 24, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    No! You have it upsidedown ... it`s 999

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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Dumb from both sides. I hate this post. At least in the other "america this is why you`re stupid" posts, there was one person I could side with or agree with even slightly. Not this time.
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    ilovesean23 Female 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 6:32 pm
    I wouldn`t wear that poo either! screw that!
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    November 24, 2011 at 6:32 pm
    As an athiest,I weep for his hunger. then I laugh.
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    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    November 24, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    Ok, this guy is a moron for refusing to wear a stupid sticker.

    The company is stupid for firing him over it.

    In fact, i am willing to bet there is a whole lot of story here we just aren`t hearing. I highly doubt the guy was like "It is against my religious beliefs to do that" and then the CEO grew horns and fired him.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    November 24, 2011 at 7:20 pm
    I wouldn`t wear it either. Even if Revelation may be a lot of crap, it was included in the canon by the early Christians and, as a Christian, I wouldn`t wear 666.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 24, 2011 at 7:21 pm
    In this context, a sticker that says `666` has no more significance than one that says `667`.

    He was not fired for his religious beliefs, but for failure to comply with company policy.

    They did not single him out, as they required the same from EVERYone.

    In the end, he has to stick with his beliefs, and suffer the consequences of putting those beliefs above his obligation of his job.

    Was is stupid getting fired over a sticker? Yes. But there`s probably a back-story to this that led up to it. Someone that outspoken may have brought his religion to work to the annoyance of others.

    Unless he can prove he was `singled out`, then I doubt he has a case.
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    mcboozerilla Male 30-39
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    November 24, 2011 at 7:22 pm
    Also, it`s completely illegal for any company to punish someone because of their religious beliefs, as it should be.
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    PacoP42 Male 13-17
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    November 24, 2011 at 7:40 pm
    they probably didn`t fire him "solely because of his religious values" when he tried returning. If they said "don`t come back for three days" and he showed up the next day, i`d be pretty pissed as an employer too. but that doesn`t justify it. both parties are guilty of stupidity.
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    mithraela Female 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    I don`t think he should have been fired. I don`t care for the religion, but people have the right to believe it in this country. That right should be protected. The woman was a mean person. Seriously, for our system to work it has to work for everyone, even someone who is terrified of a number because of his religion. Even if the guy was a twitchy prick about it, which the woman seemed to be implying, it would be based on the fact that he felt the number would "destroy his soul." As ridiculous as "that" seems, when something i believe in is contradicted and i am punished for it, i sure hope the system works for "me" because that man was wronged.
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    356094 Male 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 7:48 pm
    I`m glad he got fired. Religious dumbass.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    November 24, 2011 at 8:00 pm
    He could have written "665 + 1" on his sticker instead.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 24, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    A fantastic way to weed out the religious nut jobs!
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    November 24, 2011 at 8:17 pm
    he`s a nutjob...
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    Ston Male 30-39
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    November 24, 2011 at 8:29 pm
    @MeGrendel: I totally agree.

    Apparently he`s not the type of person who would call in sick, either.

    Of course, he could have given himself a minor injury, and reported it just so that it didn`t tick over to 666.

    There`s also the fact that the oldest existing manuscript copy of the relevant portion of Revelations puts the number of the beast as 616, not 666. From Paul Lewes, A Key to Christian Origins (Watts & Co., London, 1932, p. 140: ""The number 666 has been substituted for 616 either by analogy with 888, the number of Jesus, or because it is a triangular number, the sum of the first 36 numbers (1+2+3+4+5+6...+36 = 666)". At least one modern translation(NRSV) of the Bible also includes the translation note, "Other ancient authorities read six hundred and sixteen".
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    hellhawk Male 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    i am not christian BUT i support the man. the company should respect the man religion and not force him to do something against it.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 24, 2011 at 8:59 pm
    mcboozerilla-"it`s completely illegal for any company to punish someone because of their religious beliefs"

    He was fired for failure to follow company policy.

    The basics of Religious Accommodation laws in most states:
    1-Employers may not treat employees more or less favorably because of their religion.
    2-Employees cannot be required to participate—or refrain from participating—in a religious activity as a condition of employment.
    3-Employers must reasonably accommodate employees’ sincerely held religious practices unless doing so would impose an undue hardship on the employer.
    4-Employers must take steps to prevent religious harassment of their employees.
    5-Employers may not retaliate against employees for asserting rights under Title VII

    His best argument is number 3, but he`s have to prove that one of his religious practices is to refrain from wearing a sticker..seeing as he had no problem with `664` & `66
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    Aeladil Female 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    On the one hand, I think losing your job for over a year because of a STICKER seems a little ridiculous. I understand you`re religious but you`re taking the whole "mark of the Beast" thing way out of context.

    On the OTHER hand, it was completely inappropriate for his company to FIRE him over this issue. They could have given him a pass on the sticker, they could have allowed him the day off, they could have moved him to the office or off production, rather than terminating him.

    So yea, much as I think the guy is a bit over-zealous and taking it out of context, he definitely (to me anyway) has a right to sue.
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    logandaninja Male 13-17
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    November 24, 2011 at 10:25 pm
    its ray-ray!

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    jteachey1 Male 18-29
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    November 24, 2011 at 10:57 pm
    This is very similar to the people that are not allowed to wear burkas on the job. But we have to support this guy, screw those muslim non-nice individuals right?
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    lordastral Male 30-39
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    November 25, 2011 at 12:31 am
    @MeGrendel, actually the bible specifically states the number 666 in revelations. 664, 665, 667 are fine. But the number 666 is specifically stated as the number of the beast. It also says that Christians will be forced to wear the mark of the beast or be killed. However, it does not say that the number 666 is the literal mark the people will be forced to bear.

    My problem is this. Perhaps the company fired him for this incident, but we don`t have anything in his permanent HR files. That will come out in the trial though, so Mr. SuperChristian better have a spotless record.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    November 25, 2011 at 1:07 am
    drating religious bullpoo.
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 1:41 am
    The best part is, the number written in Revelations may not even be 666.
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    skytz1337 Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 1:46 am
    this whole thing would have been avoided if he just hit himself with a hammer in the head...its not like he could do more damage than he already has
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 1:54 am
    seriously people need to give up religion, but i digress trying to fire someone over some petty sticker, and as much as i am atheist i will side with the religious person in this case
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    Frankii Female 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 2:31 am
    Isn`t there debate as to whether it`s 666 or 616?
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    MrAtari Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 2:45 am
    what is the difference between a bonafide religion and superstition?
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    Sinn Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 3:28 am
    @Frankii, there isn`t a debate, its purely a translation issue. If you translate the passage from Hebrew the math says its 666, if you translate it from greek, the math says 616. And both of them are just as ridiculous as the other.
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    dude21862004 Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 4:21 am
    He should have been fired a lot sooner for being stupid.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 4:44 am
    Billy Hyatt is a dumby.
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    chance13 Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 6:02 am
    I wouldn`t wear it either.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 6:17 am
    You can see her imagining him in a leopard skin g-string for at least a few seconds.

    It`s not a bona fide religious belief. It`s superstition. There is no factual difference.

    "Isn`t there debate as to whether it`s 666 or 616?"

    Yes. it was 616, but became 666 after a typo.
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
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    November 25, 2011 at 6:19 am
    There must be something more to this story. To be fired over something so trivial is absurd, no company would risk a wrongful dismissal lawsuit over such a silly reason.
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    paco664 Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 6:39 am
    he should have just gotten injured on the job and they would have to start over again....
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 6:41 am
    When you join a company, in Virginia at least, you have to sign an agreement that they can terminate you at any time with little or no provocation.
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    yoda141 Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 7:21 am
    Oh please, it`s just a number. People should stop believing in magic. Society should not accomodate to crazy paranoid beliefs.
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    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
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    November 25, 2011 at 7:46 am
    "When you join a company, in Virginia at least, you have to sign an agreement that they can terminate you at any time with little or no provocation."

    And for that exact same reason there are many in PA with no job. "At will" employers are a problem not a solution. You could be fired just because your boss is having a bad day what kind of BS is that? And no I am not going to say how great a union is because it goes to far the other way.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 10:05 am
    I want to know if that was the day their safety streak ended or not. If it did he has a case, if not he doesn`t.
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    LordJim Male 60-69
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    November 25, 2011 at 10:44 am
    OK, it`s a silly ill-informed superstition and I`m generally the first to argue that your religious beliefs should not entitle you to one jot of extra privilege.

    But one day without a sticker? If he were insisting on flaunting some kind of symbol or `message` then that would be different. Unless there is something more behind this then this is one atheist who thinks the christian nut-job has had a raw deal.

    Is this company by any chance a subsidiary of Wolfram and Hart?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 11:46 am
    lordastral-"actually the bible specifically states the number 666 in revelations."

    It says `666` is the number of the beast. I don`t recall any passage that states `Thou shalt not wear a stick that sayeth `666`.`.

    Did he also refuse to work alongside women in pants? After all, the Bible states `woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man.` If he didn`t, then he is selective in what tresspasses of biblical teachings offends him.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    November 25, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Did he also refuse to work alongside women in pants? After all, the Bible states `woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man.` If he didn`t, then he is selective in what tresspasses of biblical teachings offends him.

    Does anyone choose what they are going to be offended by? He has strong religious convictions. I don`t think it matters where he got them. If it was a cartoon he got out of a crackerjack box (no pun intended) and he felt that pious about it then his feelings should still be respected...and later made fun of.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    November 25, 2011 at 10:00 pm
    i would have just taken off sick. that is total BS of the company firing him over a STICKER! its his belief and it should have been accommodated, and suspending him for 3 days then FIRING him is TOTAL BS! i hope he sues the HELL out of the company! this isnt about Christianity, its about a persons personal beliefs! i bet they wouldnt have forced some goddamn towel head to eat pork!
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    November 25, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    Ironically, shortly after firing the guy, a pallet of "safety stickers" fell on the boss, and the next day, all employees were wearing the number "1".
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    xmastree_ph Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2011 at 5:49 am
    That reporter sounds like Dora the explorer.
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    Thonious Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2011 at 7:10 am
    If he has a bona fide religious belief which prevents him from doing something which is part of his job, he should find a job that doesn`t require he do something he finds objectionable.
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    Idlerlee2 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    Heres a fun fact: The seat no. 666 in the United Nations is empty for this spesific reason.

    If its good enough for the forum that rules the civilized world, its good enough for a crappy company
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    RdDan Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    I have the same issues with the number 43.

    My god, whose name is Nigel (he doesn`t like god being spelled with a capital g) told me it`s an evil number.
    I had to change my phone number because of it as that ended in 43.
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    JonnyWisco Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 4:57 am
    LOL What a retard, serves him right for being so superstitious.
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 7:08 am
    this whole thing is dumb

    ok i can see why 666 would offend him, i wouldn`t want to wear the sticker because what the hell difference does it make, is it a reminder of the tragedy 666 days ago? i would have an accident just to reset that number and i bet i would be fired for that too.

    i`m an atheist and i find the whole firing unusual. i would bet that this person was a bible thumper and annoyed everyone so much that they were looking for a good reason to get rid of him but couldn`t do it because of that. the sticker was the excuse, though a real pathetic one at that, and i would sue them also. the world is just nuts.
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 7:10 am
    i wonder if anyone in that company said - FINALLY! my tattoo has a use!
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    Stormwolf Female 40-49
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    November 28, 2011 at 7:48 pm
    Whether you believe in the issue or not, I do remember that the State of California used to allow you to return a drivers license, or car license plate, free of charge if it contained any letter/number combination that equated to 666, based on religious objection. I no longer live in Cali, so I have no idea if this still holds. I know this, because my first learners permit had that number combination in it, and my mother made the DMV issue me a new number. Also, the US Social Security Administration will never allocate a SS# that starts with `666`.

    I also recall that, in addition to skipping the number 13 when numbering floors, larger hotels in some countries skip over the number 666.

    @Idlerlee2: It`s the European Parliament, not the United Nations. There are currently 193 member states/nations in the United Nations.

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