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137 Responses to Judge That Beat Daughter Releases His Statement

  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:18 pm
    Link: Judge That Beat Daughter Releases His Statement - Among the points involved are Muscular Dystrophy, blackmail, a Mercedes Benz, and his financial support of his daughter.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    Don`t look over there, look over here!!!

    Bastards.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    Unfortunately, TL;DR. I`ll wait for the abridged version.
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    Does it really matter why she released the video when she did? Or does it matter more that he is now a documented child abuser who, as a judge, hands down rulings on child abuse cases?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    "If you take away the mercedes and stop paying my rent You`ll Be Sorry!" Uh huh... now we know why she kept the video for 8 years.

    One thing is certain, there`s no way she`ll get the car back now! How`s if feel riding the bus?


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    Blatto Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    Basically he says that he refused to continue paying her bills when she dropped out of school. She threw a fit and released the video.

    That may be true, but it doesn`t change the fact that he beat her for 7 minutes.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    TL;DR, My daughter is a conniving snot. She`s an opportunist. I won`t even mention my own behavior I`ll just blame my daughter.
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    Javien Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    I was treated much like that girl in the video was for a lot of my childhood.

    A spanking may teach a child a lesson, but a beating will make the child hate the parent. The worst part, for my, was the yelling and threats. Those are emotionally hurtful and will last a lifetime. A bruised body can heal, but as long as emotional damage is there, there will always been problems.

    My father never understood that, won`t understand. He thinks that after it is over everything is perfect and everyone else should think so to, if they don`t they`re just targeting him and trying to cause problems for him. I see this man in the same way.
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    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    I think that if this is true, then yes, the girl is using the video for less than honorable purposes, however, it absolutely does not obsolve the disgusting behaviour in that video. The very fact that there is little to no reference to the video demonstrates to me that the father is guilty as sin of repeatedly abusing his family, and no matter the reason, deserves to be caught.

    Right on Pat. Bastards.
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    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    the fact that she dropped out of school is proof that she wasn`t beaten ENOUGH as a kid...
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    Izroth Female 30-39
    154 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    WOW...Apparently he never considered that his parenting with abuse as the cause of her trouble at all. Do what I say or I will beat you for it. Clearly she is thinking the way she was taught, do what I say or I will punish you...the only real threat she had was the video.
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    danagamer Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    Wow, what a bastard this guy is!
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    @Madest: "TL;DR, My daughter is a conniving snot. She`s an opportunist. I won`t even mention my own behavior I`ll just blame my daughter."

    You know, I don`t think I have ever openly confronted a mod on this site. Mainly because despite my abrasive and morbid attitude, I do know how to be a professional and I think those who are working with the website I like to go to deserve the benefit of the doubt and a little respect. However, your post is outright disgusting.

    I will explain. Why is it acceptable for the daughter to post this content to the public upon his re-election campaign and for it to be acceptable to NOT weigh all the facts and instead hear only her side of the story? Why is it unacceptable to even consider another side of the story?

    Are you, Madest, against civil liberties? Do you not believe that all the evidence should be weighed before a person is guilty?

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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    Solarmew, you`re an idiot.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    I think most of you total media sluts should be deeply ashamed of yourselves especially if you are citizens of this country. If you feel this is abuse then, fine... go do something about it and get the laws changed.

    But instead, you allow your reasoning and sense to be compromised by the media and by the point of view of only one... ONE, person. You all refuse to even allow that there may be a valid and different point of view worth exploring.

    Most of you are completely backwards in that in some situations you demand justice, yet in others (like this) you throw justice and due process to the side and instead judge a person solely on flawed logic and raw emotion. It is sad and I pity all of you.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    So... BOTH the father and daughter are awful people?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:31 pm

    Blatto "it doesn`t change the fact that he beat her for 7 minutes"
    No, he didn`t. The video takes 7 minutes but there`s a lot of wait time and talking/yelling. He only gave her 18 whacks, mom delivered 1. It doesn`t take 7 minutes for 19 stripes. A "7 minute beating" is not-stop whailing for 7 minutes, that`s not what happened.

    The spoiled little bitch had her mercedes and money taken away when daddy was tired of supporting her lazy ass so she said "I`ll fix you" and released the video. I call her motives into question.
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    Her motives for releasing the video are of no consequence. Her timing for releasing the video does nothing to change the content of the video. The man seen in this video is a child abuser.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    "The spoiled little bitch had her mercedes and money taken away when daddy was tired of supporting her lazy ass so she said "I`ll fix you" and released the video. I call her motives into question."

    Her motivation for releasing the video do not change the fact that this man abused her when she was a child, that he still has a minor child in his care at times, or that he occasionally oversees cases involving child abuse.

    Her motivation for releasing the video doesn`t change the fact that this man`s professional life--as a Judge in family court--and personal life--as a father with part time custody of a minor child--both need to be investigated and called into question.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    in some situations you demand justice, yet in others (like this) you throw justice and due process to the side and instead judge a person solely on flawed logic and raw emotion
    I`m judging a person based on the video footage I`m watching of him beating his teenage daughter.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:46 pm
    "Her motives for releasing the video are of no consequence. Her timing for releasing the video does nothing to change the content of the video. The man seen in this video is a child abuser."

    You are a child molester. Yes, you have sex with young children.

    See? I can outright lie and just magically change the law too. I mean, that is obviously what you are doing by saying that the video is evidence of abuse and also saying that the timing is of no consequence. But, since you cannot think for yourself unlike most of the people commenting, it should be enough evidence for me to just tell people that you like to stick your penis in 12 year old boys.

    These are the laws that I have just made up in my own universe.

    Or you can actually go read Texas law and see that you are flat out and undeniably WRONG. Now go tell all your idiot friends.
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    Izroth Female 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    Was the Benz new?
    Or a hand-me-down from the parents after they were done with it?
    The way that father treated her, I doubt very much he went out and bought it just for her.
    Clearly the people that are blaming this on the daughter are NOT parents, and should not be parents.
    In Iowa, where I reside, the law is...if a parent disiplines their child and any marks are still evident after 24 hours, it is considered abuse.
    Those defending the father`s way of discipline...have you EVER been BEAT with a belt?? I bet not!!!!!! Or you would be very humbled in your opinion.
    Seriously, you people need some compassion!!!
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    Are you, Madest, against civil liberties? Do you not believe that all the evidence should be weighed before a person is guilty? ------------
    I got all the evidence I need. That guy should not be judging anyone.
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    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    Buiadh, we`ll agree to disagree ...
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    I predicted that this was the result of a blackmail attempt, and it appears as though I was right.

    There are ALWAYS TWO SIDES to a story folks, jumping to conclusions is always a bad thing.

    I still think he handled it wrong, while in anger, but she handled this wrong as well. Two wrongs don`t make a right.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    "Are you, Madest, against civil liberties? Do you not believe that all the evidence should be weighed before a person is guilty?
    ------------
    I got all the evidence I need. That guy should not be judging anyone."

    I see. Well now I have the evidence I need too. Thanks for responding.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Rick_S: Motive is everything in a case like this, would you like all your bad behavior laid bare in front of the world on you tube ? would you like to be blackmailed with such a tape ?

    I think not.
  28. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    Izroth, yeah, i`ve been beaten with a belt quite frequently because i was a rebellious kid and i knew how the world works ... did i hate my parents for it? Maybe for like a day... Am i still mad at them and did it scare me for life? Absolutely not ... The only reason children get out of hand like this and start crying to the society every chance they get is because it`s been deemed acceptable ... Back in my place and time people would laugh at you and tell you to suck it up and listen to your parents next time ... not bitch and whine to the whole world especially when you`re clearly in the wrong ...
  29. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    Obviously, he did not beat her enough or she wouldn`t be behaving this way now.
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    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Gerry1of1, thanks for quoting me XD
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    @splurbyburbl, you sure are pretty passionate about this story. Interesting...
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    splurbyburbl, you are either trolling, or the biggest dippoo to ever grace IAB.

    The Texas Attorney General has the following to say on the subject:

    According to Chapter 261 of the Family Code (recodified in 1995), child abuse is an act or omission that endangers or impairs a child’s physical, mental or emotional health and development.

    ...and goes on to say:

    Physical abuse typically occurs when a frustrated parent or caregiver strikes, shakes, or throws a child because of anger. Other forms of deliberate assault that may be physically abusive include burning, scalding,biting, kicking, cutting, poking, twisting a child’s limbs, deliberately withholding food, binding, gagging, choking, or hitting the child with a closed fist or other instrument. Any form of corporal punishment may be abusive if it results in injury.

    Are you such a stupid f*ck that you would claim that getting beaten with a belt wouldn`t cause injury? Go back under
  33. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 2:13 pm
    CzekM8, see, this is flawed in a way that you CAN NEVER CORRECTLY JUDGE whether there have been emotional damage or not ... I could just as easily sue you for causing me emotional damage right now and noone could ever prove or disprove that ... as far as physical damage, i don`t believe for a second that your parents never grabbed you by the hand to get your attention, pulled your ear or smacked you and are completely innocent of ever physically hurting you in any way or fashion. Which leads me to believe that by your standards they are also unfit to be parents...
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    snakecharmer Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    I just want to know if gets to keep the Mercedes
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    antagonizer Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    So to surmise; I`m sorry you `feel` as if I beat you and were scarred for it, however it`s not actually a bad thing since you`re not REALLY mentally handicapped. It is, of course your fault that I was exposed and I want people to hate you because it redirects the finger pointing away from me.
  36. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:20 pm
    Solarmew, when I received a spanking as a child, it was with an open hand, to my buttocks -- administered after my parents had calmed down from whatever I may have done. What we have seen in the video is a lashing to the legs with a belt -- from a parent so worked up with anger that he is nearly hysterical.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    CzekM8: You conveniently left out the part that says you must show prolonged, systematic proof of abuse. Go back and read it again, but this time keep your pathetic and selfish emotions out of it. How about a little objectivism here...
  38. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    CzekM8, well the reason for that may be, quite ironically, that it hurts the parent to spank you more than it hurts you ... which is why it`s not a good idea for them to calm down first because then they wouldn`t be as inclined to correct you in such a fashion and your deed will go unpunished ... and as the video show, they did try to smack her on the butt but she wouldn`t turn around, so whose fault is that?
  39. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    psychologically the correction should come immediately for it to be effective ... what good would it be if you knew that you would be punished EVENTUALLY? as long as it`s not right not, who cares? ... that does not deter you from repeating your actions...
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    Quick recap of the thing for ppl who cant be bothered to read the whole thing:

    -She posted the video for other reasons, so that makes beating her completely fine.
    -She had and still has cerebral palsy, but because shes able to live somwhat normally, that doesnt make her disabled, so beating her was fine.
    -Why did she wait so long to post the video? Because she tried to use it to blackmail him. Thus that makes beating her in the first place completely fine.
    -He still has another kid (who probably also gets beaten), so she was being super selfish when she released the video, not thinking about all the media attention that might harm her sister who is probably still being beaten, so that makes beating them fine.
    -He would like to keep the whole thing quiet if possible.
  41. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    splurbyburbl, do you think it was just a coincidence that she happened to be videotaping the inside of her own room that day? Methinks you doth protest too much. Do you have children, and if so, is this how you "discipline" them?

    Solarmew, she wouldn`t turn her back on this man, so it`s her own fault she got physically abused? Interesting logic.
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    Oh, and solarmew, we get your point, no need to keep repeating yourself.
    Your parents beat you when you were a kid, and therefore you think its good parenting to beat your kids, and the cycle of violence repeats itself. Ok.
    Just go beat your kids to teach them that violence is the way to solve anything, and that being stronger makes you right even when you`re wrong, just make sure you dont get caught by that damn society who says its wrong to beat the living poo out of helpless kids.
  43. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    CzekM8: So you admit you are wrong? Likely not, but I will just assume you know you are.

    And about your questions. If you go back to the other content and read all the history of all my comments regarding the three content posts regarding this entire subject, you will learn all of my viewpoints. I refuse to retype it all in hopes to sway just one person to use logic vice emotion when thinking about any of this.

    Of course, all of my efforts seem to be in vain...
  44. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    CzekM8, she wouldn`t turn her back, that`s why she got hit elsewhere, besides her butt ... don`t make stuff up i didn`t say :]
    And i`m not sure why you`re so into the camera thing. If you were punished for something before and you do it again, you pretty much know that you`re gonna get punished again, that`s why she put up the camera ... And if nothing else, she could`ve just as easily been over reacting on purpose just to make the situation look worse, for all you know the spanking didn`t even hurt ...
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    heavypred Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    They keep misspelling Arkansas B-|
  46. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    morimacil123, being stronger has nothing to do with that ... She was wrong, she got corrected ... If she didn`t get corrected or didn` get corrected sufficiently, she would be likely to do it again ... I`m not sure which part of that confuses you..
  47. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    heavypred, thanks for contributing XD
  48. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:44 pm
    Looks like morimacil123 hit the nail on the head where splurbyburbl and Solarmew are concerned. There is only one reason why someone could watch this and then defend the person swinging the belt. I am sorry for both of you.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:45 pm
    Sure, she`s a conniving bitch. But who make her that way?
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:46 pm
    "And if nothing else, she could`ve just as easily been over reacting on purpose just to make the situation look worse, for all you know the spanking didn`t even hurt ... "

    Wow. This argument wins the thread methinks.
    For all we know, a big angry man beating as hard as he can on a kid, with a belt, doesnt even hurt.
    In other words, beating her was fine, because maybe she had the superpower of not feeling pain?
    But then if that was the case, and she really has that superpower, and doesnt feel pain, then what was the point of beating the hell out of her with a belt in the first place?
  51. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:47 pm
    "Looks like morimacil123 hit the nail on the head where splurbyburbl and Solarmew are concerned. There is only one reason why someone could watch this and then defend the person swinging the belt. I am sorry for both of you."

    Oh man... I am just sad that you are much like the rest of these people; clearly void of logical thinking. But the joke is on me. I broke one of my rules.

    Splurby life rule #1: The only way to win an argument with a moron is to never get into the argument in the first place.
  52. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    CzekM8, and im sorry for you too
  53. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    morimacil123, you`re absolutely right, and in every action movie you ever watch, after every fight the actors are hospitalized if not dead XD
  54. Profile photo of Izroth
    Izroth Female 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    @Solarmew...then clearly you don`t have children if you think it is ok to beat them. I believe therapy would have helped you understand that physically injuring your child is NOT ok. To back my defense, and using your own words mind you "did i hate my parents for it? Maybe for like a day"...She claims it hurt for her to walk the next day. So obviously you weren`t beat like she was, and to hate them for LIKE a day...wow grow up little girl and for the sake of our nation please continue to take your birth control, seriously you shouldn`t be a parent!!!
  55. Profile photo of morimacil123
    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    "If you were punished for something before and you do it again, you pretty much know that you`re gonna get punished again, that`s why she put up the camera ..."
    "If she didn`t get corrected or didn` get corrected sufficiently, she would be likely to do it again ... I`m not sure which part of that confuses you.."

    So according to you, she knew she was going to get beaten, but she still did it. But beating her will make her stop doing it. Both at the same time.
    This is a paradox.
    Do you think that her getting beaten more than once and still doing it has something to do with beating being an incorrect form of education?
    Or do you maybe think that it had something to do with her superpower of not feeling pain?
  56. Profile photo of heavypred
    heavypred Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    @Solarmew> Always here to give a hand 8-)
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    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    Izroth, actually i have two kids, and guess what, they love me XD even tho i spank them when they deserve it. I bet that just blows yer mind doesn`t it :P And again, just because she said it hurt to walk, doesn`t mean it actually did ... But i guess we all believe what we want to believe ;]
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    "morimacil123, you`re absolutely right, and in every action movie you ever watch, after every fight the actors are hospitalized if not dead XD"

    So it was a fake beating? As in, the father and mother werent actually beating on the kid with a big leather belt, but were just ACTING as though they were beating her?
    Why would they do that? What purpose would that serve? How does that even make any sense at all?
  59. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    morimacil123, it`s not a paradox at all, just a side effect of a spoil brat acting up and trying to get revenge on her parents... WHICH, as i stated earlier, wouldn`t`ve happened if she got corrected sufficiently from the very first time she ever did something wrong
  60. Profile photo of morimacil123
    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    Do you mean that its fine to ACT like you are beating your kids?
    Or do you mean that its fine to beat your kids as long as no one can prove that you werent just acting?
    What the hell is your point here?
  61. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    Izroth, unfortunately, as we`ve witnessed in the video, thinking that it is okay to beat your child does not preclude someone from having children. If only it were that easy!
  62. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 2:57 pm
    morimacil123, i take it you`ve never been beaten with a belt, so you have no idea what it would look and sound like if you were being beaten hard enough for it to hurt ... hence this conversation is pointless as you have no idea what you`re talking about. Thanks for you time tho
  63. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 3:01 pm
    morimacil123: No, what is YOUR point here? So far you have twisted around everything one person has said, putting words into their mouths and otherwise not providing one single valid argument at all.

    For instance, when a person claims asks "what if it didn`teven hurt?" We all know what is meant by the question. Even though the question is poorly worded, what is meant is; "What if it wasn`t nearly as painful as it looked?"

    I know it, my dog knows it and even YOU know it. But instead, you want to be a pain in the butt and try to trip up your opponent using false logic. It isn`t working. I have read everything you have written and I feel like I am watching a teenager try to make an argument.

    Go play outside, kid
  64. Profile photo of morimacil123
    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    Aha! I get it now.
    So to sum it up then:
    She got beat repeatedly by a big angry man with a leather belt.
    We cant know if that really hurt or not, because its quite likely that she had a superpower to ignore pain.
    In fact, since she posted the video, we DO know that he didnt beat her hard enough, because if he had, she would have been too scared to release the video at all.
    So according to your logic, he is a bad father, not because he beat her, but because he didnt beat her hard enough, so she didnt learn her lesson (to get physically abused, but to stfu about it).
    So in fact, the father should have known she had the superpower to ignore the pain of getting beat by a leather belt, and he should have beat her even harder to REALLY teach her a lesson, right?
    Like maybe with a baseball bat? Breaking every single bone in her body, that would really have tought her not to ever tell anyone about the abuse, wouldnt it?
  65. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    morimacil123, i wish i had the superpower to make you understand logic XD
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    I just can`t get past splurbyburbl`s use of the term "corrected sufficiently." If he has children, I shudder to think of what they have seen.
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    Yes, morimacil123, a baseball bat would have helped the ol` correction process! And hey, if that didn`t work, you know what would? Pushing her down the stairs! Now THAT would be sufficient correction, eh, splurbyburbl??
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    Its YOUR logic here.
    You say: "a spoil brat acting up and trying to get revenge on her parents... WHICH, as i stated earlier, wouldn`t`ve happened if she got corrected sufficiently from the very first time she ever did something wrong"
    That very clearly implies that she in fact did not get beaten up sufficiently from the very first time.
    Thus follows the question, what exactly would have been a sufficient beating there?
    If 2 adults beating on a kid with a big leather belt isnt sufficient, and she still needs to be beaten harder than that, what exactly WOULD BE?
    Should he have used a baseball bat instead of a belt? Or maybe a whip?
    Im just wondering what you feel would be a "sufficient beating" here, if 2 adults beating 1 kid with a leather belt isnt enough.
  69. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
    95 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    splurbyburbl, do you think it was just a coincidence that she happened to be videotaping the inside of her own room that day? Methinks you doth protest too much. Do you have children, and if so, is this how you "discipline" them?

    Solarmew, she wouldn`t turn her back on this man, so it`s her own fault she got physically abused? Interesting logic.
  70. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    morimacil123, sufficient correction from the beginning, as i stated, might`ve been just as simple as grabbing her by the ear and dragging her ass to her room to be grounded... Nowhere did i say that the beating needed to be more severe ... A simple correction like that would`ve been plenty, then, if she still disobeyed, maybe a smack on the butt and so on ... As the level of disobedience escalates, so should the punishment, BUT if she learned very early that disobedience will not be tolerated from just having purple earls for half an hour, then the belt simply wouldn`t be necessary today ...
  71. Profile photo of RobSwindol
    RobSwindol Male 30-39
    2514 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:17 pm
    Sure, she`s a conniving bitch. But who make her that way?
  72. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
    95 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    Seriously, Solarmew and splurbyburbl, when the belt doesn`t provide "sufficient correction," what is a reasonable next step in the disciplinary regimen?
  73. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    CzekM8, well we don`t know if it did or didn`t :] maybe she stopped pirating after that :P But if she didn`t, i would imagine cutting her off from the outside world would be my next step. No TV, no internet, no cellphone, no friends, straight to your room until i feel that the message got through and it wont happen again :] It is sad, that parents didn`t discipline her enough as a kid to have her grow up acting out like that, but what are you gonna do now...
  74. Profile photo of greenbasterd
    greenbasterd Male 18-29
    2377 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    very well written.... but he still beat the crap outa her.. i got the belt when i drated up as a kid but not dratin 20 times.. she wouldn`t be able to sit after that beating.. and on the arm? she would have had to hide that from people at school.. and for downloading music?? jeez
  75. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
    95 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:37 pm
    So you would resort to grounding the child AFTER having beaten the ever-loving crap out of her? Hey, I`m no Dr. Spock, but shouldn`t the grounding come BEFORE the beating?
  76. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    greenbasterd, well it`s either 7 minutes of spanking or going to jail for pirating ... don`t downgrade the offence ...
  77. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    CzekM8, who said that it didn`t?
  78. Profile photo of CzekM8
    CzekM8 Male 40-49
    95 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    @ Solarmew: Um, you -- "But if she didn`t, i would imagine cutting her off from the outside world would be my next step."
  79. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    CzekM8, who said they didn`t ground her before spanking?
  80. Profile photo of morimacil123
    morimacil123 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    So personally, you would first resort to violence (grabbing her by the ear till its purple ofr half an hour), and then ground her, and then smack her on the butt, and then keep escalating it.
    So then, if she still did it again after you and your wife beat the living poo out of her with a belt, what would be he next step here?
    Am I correct in assuming that a baseball bat would be it?

    More importantly though... Is there a line? If she kept disobeying you, is there at some point a line that you would not cross? Or would you just keep escalating the violence until she stopped, no matter what it took? Purple ear > grounded> smack on the butt > belt > baseball bat > breaking every one of her bones > even more violent physical torture (cutting off fingers maybe?)> ???
    Is there a point at which you would step back from torturing your child "for her own good", and try a nonviolent method?
  81. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 4:19 pm
    morimacil123, "what would be he next step here?" i already answered this question, please scroll down some ...
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    SephirothA83 Male 18-29
    955 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    Sorry, I don`t buy it. Supposedly not even written by him, just `approved` by him, with no public statement about the allegations.

    Try harder next time.
  83. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    morimacil123, being stronger has nothing to do with that ... She was wrong, she got corrected ... If she didn`t get corrected or didn` get corrected sufficiently, she would be likely to do it again ... I`m not sure which part of that confuses you..

    Let`s fast forward a bit...imagine that you`re old and your children are taking care of you. If you disobey them, is it OK for them to shout at you and beat you with a belt until you are sufficiently "corrected"?

    If not, why not?
  84. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 4:59 pm
    If she was using proof of his own actions to blackmail him, that`s acting according to the lesson he taught her - use force or threat to compel obedience.
  85. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 5:14 pm
    Angilion, there`s really no comparing one to the other ... In her case, her dad was looking out for her by teaching her that there will be consequences for her actions if she persisted the way she did. She is a child and doesn`t understand or doesn`t want to understand that she was wrong, so she`ll just have to learn to take her parents` word for it ... Similar situation among grown up people is usually resolved diplomatically because grown up people can reason. If you were to read my previous posts, you would`ve already known that i said violence is only used until the child has learned to make their own judgement of right and wrong. Why do you think we even have the legal age of consent? Why do we let people make certain decisions only AFTER they reach a certain point in their lives? WHY? Because they are incapable of doing it themselves. Which is where we go back to she should`ve listened to her parents because they know better.
  86. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 5:46 pm
    There is plenty of comparison between the two. If you think it`s an appropriate teaching technique, then you should think it`s an appropriate teaching technique. But you don`t.

    16 is not a child. Don`t be silly.

    But if you really want to bring that into the example, just add some form of dementia that makes the person less capable of adult reasoning. Now how do you evade your "reasoning" in support of "correcting" people by beating them?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 4, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    I still love how the mother is for some reason in no way responsable for any of this. If it is abuse, why isn`t she also being attacked? Why is it people aren`t calling for her job to end? Why don`t they want to spit on her like they do the father?

    Oh...she said she was `brainwashed` by him. That`s right, it was an `atmosphere of addiction`. {Notice she didn`t say who was addicted.}

    If it`s good for the gander, it`s good for the goose.
    She needs to be publicly stoned along side him.
    Or no one should be.
    I vote for no one.
  88. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 5:50 pm
    Angilion, "an appropriate teaching technique" for children ... And you telling me that she`s incapable or reasoning only supports my claim that she should be more mindful of what her parents tell her, that is all...
  89. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    Gerry1of1, dat`s because women are incapable of doing anything wrong, don`t you know that XD men are the devil! XD
  90. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 6:10 pm
    Angilion: 16 is not a child, but it`s also not an adult. Trying to equate disciplining a teenager with elder abuse is stupid, just saying.
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    tehbionic Female 18-29
    313 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 6:18 pm
    People that say `just saying` are lame. That said I`ve read none of your people`s comment arguments.
  92. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 6:19 pm
    obviously you have since you caught the "just saying" part XD ... just saying XD
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    November 4, 2011 at 6:28 pm
    So essentially his statement says it`s all her fault and his only regret is that she inconvenienced the court.

  94. Profile photo of Tetragramma
    Tetragramma Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    If this man is to be a judge, then shouldn`t he aspire, in all aspects of his life, to embody everything that a judge is? Does anyone think that he is in fact acting like a judge when they view the video?
  95. Profile photo of Jonix
    Jonix Female 18-29
    74 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    "You turn over... and TAKE IT like a grown woman!" If she did, he would be in prison for domestic abuse.

    My favorite part is the 30 seconds in the middle after the girl received "proper" physical punishment from the mother where nothing happens... and then Mr. Judge has to come in and beat her some more because... He just feels like it I guess? In my opinion, a 16 year old is way over the limit for physical punishment even if that IS your method of choice (it`s not mine). It`s kinda like the woman who was still breast-feeding her kids at 8 years old. There`s a point where it just becomes inappropriate.
    I like how he completely ignores the reason everyone is raging over and "wants an explanation for" and goes straight into why he believes the video was posted. Well... that`s great and everything, but that`s not what people are raging over. Fail.

    Another fun quote from The Judge:
    "I`mma beat you into submission!"
  96. Profile photo of splurbyburbl
    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 7:49 pm
    "If this man is to be a judge, then shouldn`t he aspire, in all aspects of his life, to embody everything that a judge is? Does anyone think that he is in fact acting like a judge when they view the video?"

    I think it is terribly ridiculous at this reoccuring notion that a person who holds a profession must be the very embodiment of said profession.

    A mechanic can never have a car problem.
    A soldier must always be carrying a weapon.
    A lawyer may only write in legalise.
    A painter must paint their own house.
    A geologist must live in a cave.
    A trash collectors home must be trash free always.

    All of us, I don`t care who you are, do things that may seem contrary to our professions. For instance, I am a Marine and I cannot stand taking the life of bugs, animals, etc. Some people have told me how odd that is in the past.
  97. Profile photo of TKD_Master
    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 8:41 pm
    Doesn`t make it ok.
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    Judges are a bit different though.
    A geologist, painter, soldier, mechanic, trash collector, and so on, all these people are not really required to make life and death decisions over someone else`s lives.

    If it was the case that their decisions were as critical, then they would be held to higher standards too.
    For example, no one really cares if a mechanic or trash collector goes binge drinking every night. If a judge or brain surgeon does it though, it kind of makes you worry for the ppl who`s lives they hold in their hands. If the president did it, it would make you worry for the country, and so on.

    The higher your responsabilities, the more ppl expect you to be perfect. Why? Well because you have such high responsabilities.

    So yeah, thats why ppl expect judges to uphold the law and be unbiased. Not just because they are judges, but because ppl`s lives are in their hands.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    November 4, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    "Judges are a bit different though."

    And yet it still doesn`t apply. Not one single solitary law was broken in this video. So, it stands to reason that he was acting as a judge should.
  100. Profile photo of Keegan31
    Keegan31 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Since when has "fascination with technology" ever been a symptom of cerebral palsy? Never.

    Then the truth comes out, she was caught stealing music online. You may think that Illegally downloading music is a minor crime at best, but let me remind it`s ILLEGAL and he`s a JUDGE.

    Furthermore she seems very insistent on pointing out she "suffers" from cerebral palsy. A point she has to make as not one can tell she has it. It literally sickens me to here her claim to "suffer" from Cerebral Palsy. I`ve known, personally, 5 people who truly Suffered from that disorder. They`re all wheelchair-bound, non-functioning people; barely able to speak, trapped in their own bodies, and suffering on a level she couldn`t even begin to understand.

    Look, I`m not defending this man. His methods for discipline were harsh and to a level I couldn`t ever take with my own child. But as a parent I know that raising a child is a diffcult task, especiall
  101. Profile photo of Keegan31
    Keegan31 Male 18-29
    228 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    Personally, I don`t really believe the girl was hurt at all.

    Oh sure I watched the 7 minute video. All seven minutes of it. at the end she calmly gets up and walks off camera.

    I don`t know about any of you, but if I was truly beaten, beaten for seven full minutes straight mind you, I doubt I`d be getting up anytime soon.

    I disagree with his methods. However I don`t actually see her truly suffering here. I see a father whose doing his best to teach his child respect.

    If anything the girl seems incredibly manipulative. She knows shes recording the video, so what does she do? She eggs him on by continuing to disobey him. Full well knowing that will get him angry.

    Then there`s how the video was presented. When I first saw it the beating was explained as his response to her using the computer when he`d forbidden her to do so. Further the claim was that her Cerebral Palsy led her to a fascination with technology.
  102. Profile photo of morimacil123
    morimacil123 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:06 pm
    "And yet it still doesn`t apply. Not one single solitary law was broken in this video. So, it stands to reason that he was acting as a judge should. "

    Physical abuse is nonaccidental physical injury (ranging from minor bruises to severe fractures or death) as a result of punching, beating, kicking, biting, shaking, throwing, stabbing, choking, hitting (with a hand, stick, strap, or other object), burning, or otherwise harming a child, that is inflicted by a parent, caregiver, or other person who has responsibility for the child.

    And afaik, it is against the law in america. Then again, I may be wrong, since I live in europe. And here, it is definitely against the law to beat your kids, wife, employees, and so on.
  103. Profile photo of morimacil123
    morimacil123 Male 18-29
    171 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    "Personally, I don`t really believe the girl was hurt at all. "
    I dont understand this point ppl seem to bring up.
    You dont believe she was hurt. So what, you dont believe that it would hurt to be hit by a leather belt? That is ridiculous.
    Furthermore, does it even matter if he actually managed to hurt her, as long as the intent was to hurt her?

    Attempted murder is still a crime, even if you fail to kill the person. So I dont see how beating the living crap out of your underage daughter with the clear intent of causing pain (because seriously, why else would he be doing that than to cause pain?), would be made any better even if somehow that girl did not feel any pain for whatever reason.
  104. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    morimacil123, i don`t think causing pain to your child to teach them a lesson is illegal, otherwise a whole lot of parents would be in jail now. No, seriously, more than you think ... The argument here is partially whether he really was beating the living crap out of her or if she just pretended like he was for the camera, like I and Keegan31 have pointed out...
  105. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    Here you go, guys ... spanking laws in Texas and other states:
    http://www.familyrightsassociation.com /info/spanking_laws.htm

    TEXAS:

    Abuse does not include reasonable discipline by a parent/guardian/managing or possessory conservator if child not exposed to substantial risk of harm. Family Code Sec. 261.001. Parent/stepparent/person standing in loco parentis to child is justified to use non-deadly force against a child under 18 when and to degree the actor reasonably believes necessary to discipline, or safeguard or promote child`s welfare. Penal Sec. 9.61.
  106. Profile photo of Tetragramma
    Tetragramma Male 18-29
    65 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:47 pm
    If it`s good to be just, and the essence of a judge is to be just, is this man a judge? By extension, is he good?
  107. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:48 pm
    Tetragramma, define "good"
  108. Profile photo of Tetragramma
    Tetragramma Male 18-29
    65 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 9:58 pm
    I could define "good" however, I defined "being just" as good. While "being just" does not equate to being "good", I really think that the definition of "just" is the problem here. If the idea of "good" is really the issue, then what would that say about the person asking to define "good"? Does that mean that the concept of "good" is essentially subjective? Does that mean the person inquiring as to what is "good" doesn`t have a clue as to what "good" means?
  109. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 10:02 pm
    Tetragramma, the concept of "good" is EXTREMELY subjective...
  110. Profile photo of Tetragramma
    Tetragramma Male 18-29
    65 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    Well, if "good" is extremely subjective, then I could make a case for Hitler to be good, couldn`t I?
  111. Profile photo of Tetragramma
    Tetragramma Male 18-29
    65 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 10:16 pm
    Also, to define something as subjective would necessarily mean that it is defined by opinion, correct? Wouldn`t that mean that your SUBJECTIVE opinion upon the subjectivity of "good" is essentially a statement of your opinon`s unreliability?
  112. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    Tetragramma, yes and yes
  113. Profile photo of Tetragramma
    Tetragramma Male 18-29
    65 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 10:45 pm
    So you claim that A) Hitler is good, and B) That your opinion upon what is "good" is an opinion, and doesn`t attempt to define "good"?
  114. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 10:53 pm
    I personally don`t claim that Hitler is good but a lot of people did and some still do. My opinion of good is just that, an opinion. You can look up definition a of "opinion" and "good" and "subjective" while you`re at it
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    ilovesean23 Female 18-29
    109 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    I`d like to tie him up and play welder with his face.. just sayin
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36653 posts
    November 4, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    In the middle of the video, as soon as dad walks out of the room here deluge of tears stops. Only to be turned back on when he re-enter before a single whack.

    Did it hurt? sure.
    Did it hurt much? aperently not.
  117. Profile photo of bumbleBB
    bumbleBB Female 18-29
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    November 4, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    To all those disputing that abuse occured. Discipline typically takes place when a rational, controlled authority figure delivers a punishment physical or otherwise. In this case it`s clear that the father is acting in a way that is not rational or controlled. He is physically violent, threatens her with serious injury, and using fear as the main method of punishment. This would need to be looked at from a perspective of both physical and emotional abuse. The use of fear, rather than the teaching of respect through consequence is enough alone to condemn his actions. Whether or not something will actually come of it is another story, since this, unfortunately, is on the milder end of abusive. He`s still a sick man, who clearly lacks some sort of appropriate boundry in discipling his child.
  118. Profile photo of Solarmew
    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 5, 2011 at 12:06 am
    bubbleBB, "typically" is the key word ... besides fear and respect are not mutually exclusive ... he threatens her as a warning and backs it up by action to let her know he`s not joking around. Next time a warning might be enough.
  119. Profile photo of trig45
    trig45 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2011 at 12:41 am
    way to bring a lot of attention to something completely unimportant on a large scale.
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    bumbleBB Female 18-29
    1113 posts
    November 5, 2011 at 12:51 am
    Hey solar. The man was not in control. He was using intense fear over minor. Fear and respect are not mutually (I`ll respond to this even though it`s a non-sequitur, as I never stated they were mutually exclusive), you`re right, however, fear does not garner respect, and this sort of "discipline" has been widly proven to be totally ineffective. The girl now obviously does not "respect" the man, and by his own measure she didn`t respond to his tactics evidenced by his reported lack of responsibilty from her as an adult. But hey hunny, I`m just a lowly nurse with no sort of education on matters of human welfare, so if you want to go toe to toe with me be my guest.
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    heavypred Male 30-39
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    November 5, 2011 at 3:56 am
    Oh Gerry, so much butthurt here...
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    November 5, 2011 at 6:08 am
    Not one single solitary law was broken in this video. So, it stands to reason that he was acting as a judge should. ------------
    No one said he broke the law but he did abuse his daughter and for that he will lose his job. It`s a fitting end for a guy who should not have been a judge in the first place.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36653 posts
    November 5, 2011 at 7:54 am

    "Not one single solitary law was broken in this video."
    Not technically true. - Wiretapping.
    Texas is a one-party state so it`s legal to put up a video camera, but as a minor she cannot give consent therefore no consent was given, the tape is illegal wiretapping and in Texas she can be tried as an adult.

    Isn`t the law wonderful.
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    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 5, 2011 at 10:29 am
    I don`t think he should or will lose his job...
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    angelo0317 Male 18-29
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    November 5, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    @ SolarMeh`s "the fact that she dropped out of school is proof that she wasn`t beaten ENOUGH as a kid..."

    I will agree on that. Give the little snot head another beating for releasing this.
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    Solarmew Female 18-29
    119 posts
    November 5, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    angelo0317, "SolarMEH" XD ... that made me chuckle ... :] ... meh ... XD
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2345 posts
    November 6, 2011 at 1:12 am
    people no matter the reason she did post the video, and well let`s not just assume the word of a child abuser is absolutely correct, the fact remains that for over 10 minutes he beat the crap out of her with a belt. those hits were not measured, they were savage and at his full strength. i find it ffunny that the same people here now supporting the father were the same ones calling for his head when the video was released.

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    KPres Male 30-39
    309 posts
    November 6, 2011 at 1:21 am
    Wow. What a spoiled brat. She probably could have used a couple more beatings.

    "Hillary warned her father if he reduced her
    financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it. The post was then uploaded."
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    sicker Female 30-39
    325 posts
    November 6, 2011 at 7:47 pm
    I don`t care why she released the video. He beat the ever-loving hell out of a kid. With a belt. Have any of you ever been hit with a belt? Even once? The man deserves prison time. The money and car were probably to keep her from releasing the video in the first damn place.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    November 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm
    Give ME a belt. I`ll beat the sh*t out of that mean person and go to prison for it.
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    funnehkitteh Male 18-29
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    November 7, 2011 at 5:43 am
    double spaces? really? ugh amatures.
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    Izroth Female 30-39
    154 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 11:35 am
    @Solarmew...very interesting, you are 24 years old and have 2 children...obviously they are not very old. Im not sure you can be a good model for comparison since you don`t have a teenager to discipline, thus how would you know what you would do in that situation, except for what you learned as a child, and that does not mean it was right.

    A good friend of mine was abused as a child, his father almost ripped his ear off by doing exactly what you suggested, "as simple as grabbing her by the ear and dragging her ass to her room to be grounded".
    Violence is not a lesson that should be learned from your parents; from them you should learn trust, respect, security, and most of all love.

    Quite frankly, have you talked to your children`s pediatrician about beating them...you might, as he or she may have some tips for you about disciplining them without inflicting pain or fear as a result of bad parenting.

    Just because you can beat your child, doesn`
  133. Profile photo of Izroth
    Izroth Female 30-39
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    November 7, 2011 at 11:36 am
    t mean you should!!!
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
    95 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    "Aransas County Court-at-Law Judge William Adams likely would have been charged with causing injury to a child or other assault-related offenses for the 2004 beating of his then-16-year-old daughter, but the five-year statutes of limitations expired, Rockport Police Chief Tim Jayroe said.

    "We believe that there was a criminal offense involved and that there was substantial evidence to indicate that and under normal circumstances ... a charge could have been made," Jayroe said. He said the district attorney determined he couldn`t bring charges, and that police would discuss the case with federal prosecutors even though he doesn`t believe federal charges would apply."

    So there ya go: the police chief believes that a criminal offense was committed. If you discipline ("correct") your children in a similar manner, you are most likely committing a crime. Wouldn`t it be ironic if you got arrested for child abuse, and your fellow inmates felt the
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    QualityJay Male 18-29
    303 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    I agree the stuff in the video was excessive, but not child abuse. It was taken out of context, and she clearly had alternative motives. She wasn`t a hopeless child, she was 16! She had the wherewithal to set up a camera, knowingly plan to blackmail her father, and did not report him to the authorities.

    I`ve suffered harsh punishment from my parents, but I know they love me. I`m sure she knows her father loves her as well.
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    QualityJay Male 18-29
    303 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Also, I would like to point out that you aren`t INJURING the person with a belt. When you BEAT someone you don`t do it with a soft piece of leather. If he was an abuser he would have used his fists.
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    CzekM8 Male 40-49
    95 posts
    November 7, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    According to the police chief, a crime was committed.

    It`s really interesting that the people who support this douche bag are the ones who were beaten themselves, and now beat their own children.

    Again, to reiterate: the police chief himself believed that a crime had been committed.

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