How Do You Define Free Speech?

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in

Just what is the "real" public nuisance?
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Male 7,740
patchgrabber-"If corporations are people, then who goes to jail when they break the law or their practices kill people?"

The person(s) within the corporation who broke the law or who put the practices into place and carried them out.

Example: I ship hazardous materials for my corporation. If I ship something hazardous, but represent it as non-hazardous, and someone gets hurt/killed, who is held responsible? (for real word example, google `ValuJet Flight 592`, where inproperly packaged and stored hazardous materials caused the death of 110 people)

Did the corporation (i.e. every single worker/manager/owner) break the law? No.

Who will go to jail? Me, as the person who presented it an non-hazardous. Also probably anyone who was supposed to double-check me. OSHA will also slap a huge fine on the company.

For the most part, the system works.
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Male 5,811
MeGrendel: If corporations are people, then who goes to jail when they break the law or their practices kill people?
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Male 14,834
He has a real point there.

At the same time, the professional middle classes, let`s call them "The 33%", they can leave pretty much anytime they want.

Many have and many more will. That`ll leave the top 1% to feed off the bottom 63%, until that is they get fed up and go all Morlock vs Eloi on their masters.
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Male 1,293
Crabes

We have to a large degree lost our freedom of speech, despite our own constitution. The US concept is important for two reasons. The first is as an archetype, a true freedom to which we can point our government and say "look, that is freedom of speech!". The second is that speech is now global. I can write and host in America, and be protected against prior restraint by the US constitution. That feeds back to my first point, putting pressure on our government and on the dying bureaucracy of he EU.
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Male 1,284
its surprising that non-american people care and know so much about american politic more then their own. just saying
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Male 1,293
This man is an idiot.

For a start he has clearly never read the constitution. The first amendment clause for free speech does not mention "people"; it restricts Congress from making laws against free speech. It doesn`t say that the people exercising the free speech have to be representing their own views. It doesn`t say that corporations cannot sponsor that speech. In fact the same clause allow freedom of the press, so by Reich is implying that corporations should not have freedom of the press, which suggests he is really, really dumb. In fact another subclause of the same clause guarantees freedom of the press, so Reich is implying that corporations should not have freedom of the press, which suggests he is really, really dumb.

When real people assembled to express their dissatisfaction they were in fact indulged. They were allowed to break laws and regulations, and to trespass on private property. They were allowed to take away facilities from other peop
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Male 995
Quite right, and I liked how he said: Weeeeee
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Male 15,832
Reich is a fapping idiot.
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Male 1,064
looks like an older version of the wikipedia founder
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Male 234

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Male 7,740
Corporations have ALWAYS been considered people. The Supreme Court just reiterated common regulations.

In the parlance of Federal Regulations, a `Person` is defined as: `an individual, corporation, company, association, firm, partnership, society, joint stock company; or a government, Indian tribe, or authority of a government or tribe...`, and has been for decadeds.

And why is it that when they show the `ebil rich`, it`s always the Koch Brothers, but not Soros?

And his definition of `nuisance` demonstrates his bias and has no basis on reality.

"All WE have is our ability to peacefully assemble." I have not problem when you peacefully assemble. It`s when you`re violent, a hazard, and (dare I say it) a `nuisance`.

Not to mention the source: MoveOn.com....nuff said.
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Male 1,284

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Male 646
The police violence against the protesters is really shameful.
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Male 37,774
Somehow I`m guessing this dude HATES the Tea Party...

Unlimited money? Naw, after a trillion or two they`ll run out of cash... jeez what a lunkhead!

Finally: Lets all go occupy Robert`s house! C`mon IABers, free room & board at the Reich place!
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Male 10,440
Almighty lazyme approves of this man`s message.
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Female 8,044
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