A Fairly Controversial Sign At Slutwalk 2011 [Pic]

Submitted by: hole_rocks89 5 years ago in

She throws her life story all on one sign. I hope pressed charges on the guy.
There are 133 comments:
Female 2,289
no one deserves to be raped. I don`t care how slutty you are looking, rape is wrong.

BUT that doesn`t excuse the skimpy get up. Show some class and maybe you`ll be treated with a bit more respect.
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Male 558
Cool story bro-ette.
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Female 418
HAHA at Quackor
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Male 24
Oh... and just to clear up... When I say "equal" I mean it only in the way of "physiologically same" and "equal as a society unit". I`m not into sexist crap like "Women shouldn`t have right to vote" or "They shouldn`t get to go out of the kitchen" and etc.
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Male 24
@Angilion Academic psychology, biology and sociology has proven it. It`s not my sole opinion here... And that "bigot" thing - doesn`t fit me at all. At least idk of any females feeling discriminated around me.

@Musuko42 Never felt an obsession of that type. Btw why you`re using or sexual orientation to strengthen your point? I already said I`m the guy getting called "gay" for not sleeping with wasted women. I`m just saying how it goes in real life. Not that utopic "we are all equal" bullpoo that I`ve never experienced.
WE ARE NOT FU<KING EQUAL... If we were, why are women getting better protection by law?!
WHY when my flat-mate`s girlfriend hit her forehead in a door till it started bleeding and then called the cops, that my flatmate hit her with a chair, they arrested HIM STRAIGHT AWAY despite the fact it was three of us saying she`s lying... ????

Pfhah... "bigot"... ?!?!!? I wouldn`t like women if they were sa
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Male 59
Why do so many people think that if two equally drunk people have sex, it`s the guys fault? Are women somehow less accountable? I thought we were supposed to be equal and all that.
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Male 533
So she got drunk, slept with a guy and then regretted it in the morning. K. I guess I can get drunk and do my taxes to claim rape just the same.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Ladies, lads, calm down. She`s created a story around a comment a police officer said; the whole reason that slut walk was started. Some police guy said something to the effect of, `don`t wear provocative clothing and you won`t get raped`.[/quote]

You might have had part of a point if it wasn`t for these inconvenient facts:

1) Nobody said that.
2) Slutwalk doesn`t really have anything to do with that statement (that wasn`t made).
3) Her sign doesn`t have anything to do with that statement (that wasn`t made).

[quote]educate yo bad selves, for realsies[/quote]

Propaganda isn`t education.
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Male 12,365
[quote]You are going on a whole different level here. No matter how non-sexist I want to be in this world - MEN AND WOMEN are a completely different type of beings.[/quote]

Bollocks. You`re just a silly bigot. Quite insane, actually.
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Male 12,365
[quote]It`s really weird that this isn`t a black and white argument...[/quote]

Thankfully, it isn`t weird.

There are still some people who think that if two people who are both drunk consent to have sex with each other, that isn`t a man raping a woman.

It might be black and white to you that a man is guilty regardless of what happened and that women aren`t capable of being responsible for their own decisions, but thankfully there are many people who understand what sexual equality is and think it`s a good idea. As a result they see adults, regardless of their sex, as adults. It`s a radical idea, but it`s not as weird as you think it is.
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Female 158
It`s really weird that this isn`t a black and white argument... You seriously have to be a misogynist to think that `slutty` girls are no good to respect or to talk to but ok to rape - you have to make a conscious decision for all of them!!! I don`t believe that guys are ruled by their penises THAT BADLY and I bet with each rape case the guy was just hoping he could get away with it
Here`s the most important bit of information - rape REALLY HURTS women
so who cares if you can think of a loophole
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Male 2,850
@Burni

"No matter how non-sexist I want to be in this world - MEN AND WOMEN are a completely different type of beings."

That`s not how the world appears to me. But then again, I`m a gay man.

So perhaps your perspective on a person is different when you`re not obsessed with wanting to put your dick in them?
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Female 109
This whole post is tl;dr, but I`ll throw-in:

When you look at the stats which compare instances of rape across countries, women are raped just as often (sometimes more often) in place where acceptable dress for women means showing little to no skin as they are in places where `dressing slutty` is permissible.

Given that info, mode of dress seems to means very little to rapists.

Re: sleep/drunk rape - I have a friend who divorced her husband because he was drugging her (spiking her food with sleep medication) and waiting until she passed out to sleep with her. It was a whole sleep fetish thing he has. Her opinion goes something like this: `If he had asked and I had consented, that would have been fine. But he did not ask and I did not consent, so we are no longer married (thanks to the video testimony of nanny cams setup in our kitchen and bedroom).`
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Male 1,610
[quote]If you ask somebody to have sex with you[/quote]


When was the last time anyone in here remembers `asking` someone to have sex with them. poo doesn`t work like that.
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Male 2,419
@Musuko42
If you ask somebody to have sex with you, have sex with them, then wake up the next day and regret it you still CONSENTED.
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Male 24
Oh.. and another correction. I never said anyone DESERVES to get raped. I said, that if you act like that YOU SHOULDN`T FU<KING COMPLAIN.
I wouldn`t...
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Male 24
@Musuko42

You are going on a whole different level here. No matter how non-sexist I want to be in this world - MEN AND WOMEN are a completely different type of beings.
Generally society teaches us that men that get a lot of women are cool, and girls that get a lot of men are sluts. I`m not saying it`s right, but for sure it is something that goes like this. There is actually a psychological explanation of that, but that`s not the case here.

If I tell you I got smashed last night at a party and I woke up next to a girl that I didn`t want to have sex with(but I obviously passed out while that was happening) - what would you think?! Would you say I got raped by a girl?!

After all - men have a different type of mentality + we`re the "strong gender". Girls should still bare that in mind, no matter how unjust it is.

Btw the story that I said didn`t happen to me. I`m one of the guys that gets revolted by drunk girls and gets called "g
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Male 1,735
Than don`t go out alone to a bar and get so drunk you don`t know what`s going on. Dressing slutty just makes you more a target for the predators, and not all rapists are ugly guys who can`t normally get any. They tend to be based on opportunity, going out alone to get wasted is the perfect opportunity for some college freshman. Also times when your so called friends ditch you for someone they met, and leave you all alone. poo happens, but you can control the environment you choose to be in.
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Male 2,850
@Burni

Us men can go to a party with strangers, get drunk, wear revealing clothes (I guess for men that`s shirt button`s undone, low-riding jeans, I dunno), flirt with all the ladies there, etc...

...and we can generally do all that without fearing or, according to you, DESERVING, to be raped.
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Male 26
Imma just leave this here...
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Male 721
sexytexan876 - the sad thing is that it happens all the time. my brother was accused of it once, police raided the house, seized everything as "evidence", let out of a cell 2 days later when the girl admitted she didnt even have sex with him. and nothing actually happened that night.
I know another girl who cried rape when she woke up the next morning after a night out and there was a guy in her bed she had slept with. but because she wouldnt of done it sober, it must of been rape!
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Male 42
I`ll be patiently awaiting the guy`s sign:

"One night this girl I was drinking with started flirting with me, and led me away from the party. We had sex. The next day I guess she realized what she`d done. She lied and told everyone that I raped her. I got labeled a sexual predator. I lost my friends. My family disowned me. I lost my job. And to top it all off, I was sent to prison where I actually got raped."
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Male 4,902

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Female 355
And by Sbeelz logic my boyfriend rapes me no less then 3 times a year.
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Female 355
Why was she flirting with him if she had a boyfriend?

How did she end up in a parking garage alone with this person, unless she left the general party areas with him?

In no scenario would my friends ever blame me for rape. Regardless of how hammered I was unless I was acting so whoreish prior to the incident that even if I was really raped they wouldn`t believe me. So, If all her friends, who we can assume to be at said party - since she said it could have been one of them, think she seems to be at fault, do you not think she possibly was?

Maybe I`m over analyzing it because her story reminds me of a girl I went to high school with, she was kinda slutty to begin with but would then go camping/partying alone with some guy bragging about how hammered she was going to get and would come back crying she was raped.

For me that girl`s story has a lot of holes in it, probably like her drunken memory.

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Female 1
Ladies, lads, calm down. She`s created a story around a comment a police officer said; the whole reason that slut walk was started. Some police guy said something to the effect of, `don`t wear provocative clothing and you won`t get raped`.
Here`s a link; educate yo bad selves, for realsies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlutWalk
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Male 1,793
I taught him well...
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Female 241
just don`t be a slut.
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Male 230
" Look- if you have sex with a drunk person and you`re sober enough to realize that they`re drunker than you are, then it`s rape. "

Never seen more BS in my life. You basically said that if you have sex with a drunk person than your a rapist.

Phuck that sheet.
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Female 64
@JonnyWisco and @xiquiripat:

Those are exactly the kinds of attitudes that she is taking a stand against. >.<
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Male 626
WAIT. You mean to tell me there is a day when all the sluts come out and walk around the city?
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Male 2,868
Look- if you have sex with a drunk person and you`re sober enough to realize that they`re drunker than you are, then it`s rape.
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Female 39
I see situations like this every weekend at school... some girl is drunk at a frat house where she already screwed half the brothers, gets hammered, sleeps with someone, gets made fun of because either he`s not exactly fcuk-worthy or she`s called the "house whore", and since she doesn`t want this kind of reputation she says it was rape. I don`t know what happened in this girl`s particular situation, but usually in stories like this the girl wakes up thinking "ew, I had sex with him?" and claims rape to avoid the shame. Kinda makes me feel bad for people who actually were sexually assaulted, because it`s girls like this that make society think they had it coming.
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Male 106
In the slightly paraphrased words of Dave Chapelle: You may not BE a whore... but you ARE wearing the uniform.
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Male 29
What was she doing drunk as hell in a parking lot staircase with some guy she was flirting with... especially when she has a boyfriend? Im not advocating date rape but she got herself into that situation and only has herself to blame.
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Male 2,422
Society must protect me from my abdication of common sense and personal responsibility!
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Male 15,339
Pics or it didn`t happen.
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Male 197
Who is to say that SHE was not the rapist here. He could have been even more impaired than her and she could have initiated everything.

STOP going out into the world thinking that you are safe and nothing will ever happen to you. That is not the world we live in, you do not have impunity to the dangers of the world and no one can look out for your own well being as well as you. If you are going to impair your ability to make good, rational decisions then you should at least have a friend, who is not impaired, present to be able to make those decisions for you.

The fact is there ARE predators out there looking for someone to prey on does not absolve you of your responsibility for your health and safety.

One last thing, how would you react if the GUY was holding this sign?
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Male 163
dont drink that much
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Male 15,510
Is she the 1%?
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Male 40
OldGumbieCat-"False accusations are rare."

Several studies have shown that almost half of the accusations are false.
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Male 24
I`ve heard this story...
She goes to a party with loads of people she doesn`t know. She goes with half of her ass outside of her skirt, cause she can and she has the right to do so... She gets drunk like fu<k and flirts with everybody for the whole night. Then she grabs one guy`s hand, drags him in the next room, rips his shirt off, pulls him over her, rub his di<k with her hand and THEN - she passes out...
In the morning she goes out of the room and she`s like "HE FU<KIN RAPED ME" ...true story...
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Female 1,566
If you don`t want to have drunk sex with someone, don`t get drunk. You getting smashed and agreeing to sleep with someone doesn`t make them a rapist. It doesn`t even make you a slut. It makes you another college student who made a mistake. Embrace it, learn from it, move on. There isn`t even an argument here to be had.
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Male 237
@Angilion: Because I don`t know if you have noticed in the original picture, the person here is a girl, and she`s the one saying she got raped. Not the opposite. So for very obvious reasons I`m using a girl as example, like everyone else here does.

I`m curious where I ever wrote anything about men not being able to be raped. It has happened and will happen, and it`s as HORRIBLE on one side than the other.

Oh and men shouldn`t dress up provocatively, you know showing their muscles and tight pants, you know, they could attract rape that way </sarcasm>
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Male 12,365
Sakamura, you`re moving the goal back and forth between consent and lack of consent in an effort to pretend it`s rational to allocate blame solely on the basis of what kind of genitals a person has. That`s an irrational position based purely on sexism and no amount of goal-shifting will obscure that.

If you want to use a drink-driving analogy that`s actually analogous, here it is:

Two adults, both drunk, consent with each other to co-drive a car that they jointly own, on their own private land with nobody else involved in any way at all.

Tell me why you think that is always the man`s fault and it`s the same as the man kidnapping the woman. Is it because you think women are children, because you think men are bad, or both?
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Male 237
Arcval said: "1. Don`t dress like a hooker or stripper."

When you find someone cute, she could wear a christmas turtleneck, and you`d still bone her. Many of my friends got harassed by creeps who found them cute, and then no matter what they did or how they dressed afterwards, these creeps would keep on hitting my friends.

Clothing is totally irrelevant. And I wouldn`t want anyone to have to wear a burqa or even worst, just so they could feel "safe"
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Male 40,250

Maybe it`s not Either/Or.

Maybe EVERYONE is right.
Perhaps she really was raped.
AND her friends are right she is a slut.
Sluts get raped, too.

No, being a slut does not mean you are asking for it so you feminazis calm down and don`t go putting words in my mouth.
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Male 237
MeGrendel said: "Okay, the guy was probably drinking, too. So he can`t be held responsible. Sounds like a BIG can of worms you open with that."

Geez that seems hard. That`s still the law. I mean, an example ... you are drunk, you are walking ... you are on the sideways, and stay there. A drunk driver goes out of its way to hit you. That person is responsible for your death, whether impaired or not. Same thing for rape and that person.

Rape will stay rape no matter what ... The only thing that can REMOVE the rape possibility is to have consent, and that can only be given by the person when not under influence. It`s not "you gain rape possibility by drinking", see it the opposite way, "you lose consent possibility by drinking".
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Male 12,365
[quote]Thats not a factor in whether you get raped or not.[/quote]

Debatable at best. Deliberately dressing to attract attention isn`t targeted - you attract attention from everyone. Including rapists, if there are any in sight. On the other hand, it might put them off if you`re confident enough to strut around flaunting yourself.

[quote]You should be able to get as drunk as you like without fear of being raped.[/quote]

Nobody has said you shouldn`t be able to, so your "reply" is completely irrelevant.

[quote]and get stabbed to death after he beats you stupid and rapes you anyway.[/quote]

Arguing that people should ALWAYS passively submit to rape regardless of circumstances is a lot more offensive than arguing they should ALWAYS fight back.

[quote]Most rapes occur in domestic properties. Not much use that,s going to do you there.[/quote]

Being aware of your surroundings is always useful.
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Male 12,365
spanerbulb:

(3) could be a very bad idea. It`s not reasonable to state it as something that should be done in every case, because in some cases it will get you killed. Fighting has got to be left to the discretion of the victim, for them to judge whether it will make things better or worse. Maybe it will give them a chance to get away. Maybe it will make the rapist angry enough to kill them. It`s a judgement call that depends on the specific situation, so you can`t fairly make a blanket statement about it.
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Male 303
"Four simple rules to drastically reduce your chances of being raped.
1. Don`t dress like a hooker or stripper.
2. Don`t get so drunk you can`t defend yourself. 3. Fuc*ing fight back if someone tries to force themselves on you.
4. Be aware of your surroundings."

1. Thats not a factor in whether you get raped or not. Most people who get raped are not wearing anything slutty.
2.You should be able to get as drunk as you like without fear of being raped.
3....and get stabbed to death after he beats you stupid and rapes you anyway.
4.Most rapes occur in domestic properties. Not much use that,s going to do you there.

How long will it take to get people to stop spouting moronic "advise" that`s full of more poo than a septic tank.
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Male 12,365
[quote]No that just means they both got raped and both should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.[/quote]

You`re seriously arguing that if two people who are both drunk have consensual sex with each other, they should both be prosecuted for raping each other, to the full extent of the law?

You`re making no distinction between that scenario and the worst cases of rape? Seriously?

There are too many people trivialising rape, and almost all of them are "anti-rape" campaigners and advocates.
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Male 12,365
[quote]To use a little logic, her first line on the sign was he "doesn`t know he`s a rapist". Well, any jackwad who has forced himself on a woman knows he is a rapist, so obviously she is attempting to use the argument `I was drunk and not responsible for my actions, but he should have been.` Again, double-standards. Some people want to be more equal than others.[/quote]

Can`t fault that reasoning, based on the words she chose to put on her sign.

Things like this victimise innocent men (and often men in general) and they trivialise rape. They`re wrong on so many differently levels that there`s nothing right about them at all.
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Male 1,243
Four simple rules to drastically reduce your chances of being raped.
1. Don`t dress like a hooker or stripper.
2. Don`t get so drunk you can`t defend yourself. 3. Fuc*ing fight back if someone tries to force themselves on you.
4. Be aware of your surroundings.
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Male 41,141
[quote]If you have sex with a girl that you KNOW is under some kind of influence, you are a rapist[/quote]
What if YOU are under the influence too? Are you raping each other? Should you BOTH go to prison?

Obviously if the person isn`t conscious, or has been unwittingly drugged by you, it`s rape DUH! But the "I was drunk" arguement is the worst thing ever. For rape, murder, abuse, driving & etc.
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Male 41,141
I call BS
Also her font size at the bottom is small, eh? "I am not ashamed" in TINY letters! LOLZ!
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Male 8,693
OldGumbieCat-" women wanting rape to be recognized as rape as "wanting to be treated special" "

So, you seem to have a reading comprehension problem. Because I never stated that.

As you well know, but chose to `missinterpret` (a common tactic when losing an argument), I was equating the `special` statment to the double-standard of:\
-"A woman who is drunk or `in an altered state` (to be defined by the woman, of course) is not reponsible for her actions"
-"A man is ALWAY respsonsible for his actions".

To use a little logic, her first line on the sign was he "doesn`t know he`s a rapist". Well, any jackwad who has forced himself on a woman knows he is a rapist, so obviously she is attempting to use the argument `I was drunk and not responsible for my actions, but he should have been.` Again, double-standards. Some people want to be more equal than others.
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Male 248
So what I`m getting from that sign is she got really drunk and let some random guy drat her, resulting in her boyfriend to dump her for being a dumb slut. And now she`s calling it rape.

I mean, rape is horrible and all, but being a drunk slut and drating a random guy doesn`t really count as getting raped...
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Male 1,197
well, if you didnt say no, then i am sure your "rapist" doesnt know he is a rapist

regreting cheating on you boyfriend and having drunken sex at a party isnt rape ... it is many other things, but rape is not one of them, if she had said no, stop, get the drat off me, and this didnt happen, then this is rape ... but by reading the sign, she sounds like she is just a slut
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Male 411
she asked for it.
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Male 6,737
Meh. We don`t know the story. Move on.
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Male 2,737
filthy whore needs to be stoned. and not in the good way.
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Male 2,332
She does look rape for the picking
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Female 19
Haha, okay, now with your "poor oppressed men" statements and assertion that women wanting rape to be recognized as rape as "wanting to be treated special" I see that any further discussion is pointless. Nevermind.
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Male 8,693
Neo20999-"let me dispel any confusion"

Nope, you`re confused.

Why is it that a woman is not held reponsible for HER actions if she`s had a sip of alcohol, is sleepy, is on the rag or just feels `icky` that day, but a man is supposed to be held responsible for ANY thing he does no matter what his state of mind? Double-standard much?

This is what sets the womens` movement back: "I want my equal rights except for when I want to be treated special!!!"

You`re `theory` only works if you take for granted that a woman is not smart enough to be held to the same standard as a man. Sorry, I don`t buy that. I know too many intelligent, responsible women.

The solution for this idiot girl is: Quit Drinking.
The solution for the idiot she hooked up with: Quit Drinking.

Simple, no?
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Female 19
...about this case. False accusations are rare. Many women do not go to the police even in cut and dry cases, they are often victimized again have to relive the ordeal in court. It`s understandable, I didn`t and I do not regret that choice.
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Female 19
@Megrendel: One of the problems that this movement is addressing is solely (or mostly) placing the responsibility on the victim rather than the criminal. Hindsight is always 20/20, what does it accomplish?

You are assuming an awful lot a
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Male 14,331
@Neo20999

But but but wouldn`t that be raping yourself then??? or would it be raping your hand??? What I wrote on my hand is all smudged from the hand rape and I can`t read it WHAT DO I DO!?!?!?!
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Male 128
Part of what immediately irks me about this case and this overall issue is that there seems to be very little emphasis on uncovering all sides of a story and far more emphasis put on sensationalizing a woman`s plight. If a man raped her, by all means let`s lock him up. If a sober man took advantage of her when she was under the influence, that should be punished. However, by the sounds of it, I doubt anyone at this party was sober. How can you call it rape if you`re so drunk you throw yourself on a guy and go home with him? How do you draw the line between being taken advantage of and being irresponsible? What *I* don`t like about our "rape culture" is that no one seems to want to uncover the truth and get all sides of the story.
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Male 84
Why is this so complicated? Here- let me dispel any confusion. If a person is unwilling to have sex with you and expresses it with body language or verbally OR if that person is drunk/unconscious/in an altered state to the extent that they can`t express the lack of desire to have sex with you... AND you have sex with that person - it`s rape.

Write it on your hand. If you have any doubts about a particular situation, go home and jerk off.
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Male 149
yup not rape.
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Male 8,693
@OldGumbieCat, the equation is `bodies of water can be dangerous, automobiles can be dangerous, people can be dangerous (not just men)`. It`s your responsibility to stay as safe as you can around all.

OldGumbieCat-"state of dress not being one of them"

Which is why I have not mentioned the way she was dressed in any of my posts.

OldGumbieCat-"a woman who may have made a mistake in judgement does not deserve rape"

Nor have I ever said that. But a woman who gives consent, then later regrets it, does not constitute `rape`.

No one deserve rape, but a guy bein receptive to a girl putting the moves on a guy doesn`t necessarily constitute rape.

Obviously it was not such a cut-and-dried case of rape that she could have him prosecuted. She doesn`t state whether she considers it rape because she said `no`, or if she jumped his bones and is upset because that he didn`t turn her down on the basis of `possibly` being tipsy
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Male 42
@MeGrendel: No that just means they both got raped and both should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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Male 128
Question: is it rape if both parties were drunk?
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Male 8,693
Sakamura-" speck of alcohol/drugs in your blood and you can say you are impaired. And if you do, you cannot legally give consent."

Okay, the guy was probably drinking, too. So he can`t be held responsible.

Sounds like a BIG can of worms you open with that.
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Male 303
@Golden1
You`re a fool. If you intentionally drug a girl to have sex, it`s rape. If you go to a bar and take a drunk girl home, that`s definitely not rape. If it is, then me and everyone I know is guilty...
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Male 14,331
[quote] If you have sex with a girl that you KNOW is under some kind of influence, you are a rapist.[/quote]

Then over 50% of sex worldwide is rape. Would that mean in this case they were both raped?
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Female 19
*RAINN
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Female 19
Please educate yourself on the facts before you start blasting your baseless opinions everywhere. There are plenty of resources out there (no, I won`t google it for you). Stanford and RAIIN are good places to start.
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Male 1,540
@Golden1

I hate making assumptions, but one can only presume they were both drunk. So who`s fault is it when they both have clouded judgment?

But then again maybe he was refraining from getting so drunk he goes around flirting with and having sex with random people, and he let her seduce him and go to a private area with him.
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Female 123
Got to love the internet. If you have sex with a girl that you KNOW is under some kind of influence, you are a rapist. Not being violent with her doesn`t make it ok. You are taking advantage and you shouldn`t be surprised when she comes back saying rape. However, this just goes to show that no one should get that drunk and expect everything to be fine. Of course she isn`t asking for it but we are all responsible for our actions when we choose to take things that impair our judgement, man or woman.
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Female 19
MeGrendel: Your argument is null. Are you really comparing drowning and car accidents to rape? Does a lake have a choice to not drown you? No. Does a car have a choice to not wreck? No. Does a man have a choice to not rape? Duh.

Are there things I can do to lessen the chances of rape? Yes (state of dress not being one of them, that is a myth) However, the the fact remains that a woman who may have made a mistake in judgement does not deserve rape, nor does it lessen the severity of the crime.

As for the credibility of her story, neither you nor I can know for sure, but to automatically assume that she is a liar is disgusting.
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Male 237
@MeGrendel: Actually the law is quite clear. A speck of alcohol/drugs in your blood and you can say you are impaired. And if you do, you cannot legally give consent. And if you cannot give consent, it means it was forced on you.
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Male 303
apparently she hasn`t learned her lesson
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Male 8,693
madduck-"Rape is usually about power and domination- not sex as we understand it... "

Let`s see. Two college-age kids in a bar, getting drunk, flirting with each other finding a place to bump: I`m pretty sure this one was about sex. For both of them. She just doesn`t like the fact that she`s a horn-dog when she`s drunk so has to call it `rape` in her mind.

Again, her boyfriend and friends know her better than anyone on this forum, so let`s not argue with their conclusions.
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Male 4,311
i think she raped him. i bet he was to drunk to know what was happing to him. is it his fult he looked good in levi`s. the poor man i hope he can recover some day.
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Male 4,311
next time don`t get drunk!
if i get dunk and run over some kid with my car. whos fult is it? mine for getting drunk or the kid for damaging my car.
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Male 1,540
I donno, lady. Your story`s pretty vague. Are you saying it`s rape because you were "too intoxicated to say no?"

If so, that`s drated up. I feel sorry for guys that date people like you. Learn not to drink so much and stop flirting with people when you`re in a relationship.
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Male 2,510
My thought`s exactly sexytexan.
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Male 8,693
MrOrange-"all the people saying that her bieng drunk did somehow lessen the crime"

I haven`t read where anyone has said that. IF the crime of rape happened, it should be fully prosecuted. (from the sound of her sign, though, she`s just labeling it `rape` because she regretted it afterward)

WE`RE saying that had she acted responsibly, there probably wouldn`t have been a crime (if there was one) and she would have no regrets.

MrOrange-"i`d like to ask: Where is the line?"

The line is where the woman says `No` is incapable of giving consent.

MrOrange-"At what point is it okay to take advantage of someone who can`t say no?"

Actually, she didn`t say she couldn`t say `no`, or that she even tried.

At what point does a girl flirting with you, giving you lap-dances, ripping her clothes off and yelling `Do me now!` NOT constitute consent?
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Male 42
A girl gets drunk, flirts with a guy, then proceeds to leave (the party- bar? she didn`t say) with this person. What did she think was going to happen? They were going to go back to his place an play scrabble? I mean, if she was outright saying "No, stop, please" then it`s the guy`s fault. But her boyfriend (the guy who is supposed to care about her) spat in her face? She either did a horrible job of explaining the situation, he`s the biggest d-bag in the universe, or... and I`m betting on this one, she got drunk and cheated on her boyfriend, then realized what she did and cried rape.

And now for a little perspective. I`m putting myself in the shoes of the boyfriend. If my girlfriend came to me and told me she was raped, I would scour the earth to find the guy that did it and castrate him with a blunted, rusty knife. This is why it`s hard for me to believe that she told her boyfriend she got raped, and he called her a whore.
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Male 408
I hate when girls blame booze
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Female 309
Couldn`t agree more. Same thing happened to me.
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Female 8,120
Some of you men need to examine your attitudes, please avoid the other sex until you understand why you are offensive and unpleasant.
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Female 8,120
She may have been irresponsible and acted unwisely but of course she did not deserve it. She did not ask for it and the only thing I could suggest is that she should not have been drunk- rape is not the only ill that could have befallen her- but to suggest that her clothing was a problem- ridiculous. Rape is usually about power and domination- not sex as we understand it...
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Male 8,693
OldGumbieCat-"When you see a women who`s had too much to drink-Don`t rape her"

I don`t.

OldGumbieCat-"When you see a woman wearing a trashy outfit-Don`t rape her"

I don`t.

OldGumbieCat-"When a woman flirts with you but isn`t willing to have sex with you-Don`t rape her"

I don`t.

But then, I have no control over anyone else. There are sick animals out there. KNOWING THIS FOR A FACT it is one`s responsiblity to protect one`s self.

Don`t drink and drive and your chances of being in an accident are greatly reduced, but not eliminated.

Don`t go into the sea/lake/river and your chances of drowning are greatly reduced, but not eliminated.

Here`s her best idea: Don`t get drunk because she`s shown a proclivity for slutty behavior and regretting it in the morning. Or do you propose that all men should administer a alcohol-test prior to sacking a girl? ("Hey sexy! Mind pissing
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Male 2,510
This girl. Doesn`t understand. how a full stop. Works.
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Male 2,419
Her bieng drunk in a non-safe enviroment is stupid i agree, and i don`t know all the details so i won`t judge, But to all the people saying that her bieng drunk did somehow lessen the crime i`d like to ask: Where is the line? At what point is it okay to take advantage of someone who can`t say no?
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Male 2,855
My florist doesnt know he is a florist, you taught him it wasnt his fault, i drank too much, tequila and my car is too fast. i was asking for it. I left my parking spot. My (ex)girlfriend spit in my face or maybe i threw up on hers. She called me a drunk, she called me an alcoholic. I deserved it. My friends gave me dirty martinis. They called me charlie sheen, not realizing, it could have been them. This culture, your culture, my culture, told them, told me, this was my fault, cuz im responsible for my actions. But my dentist doesnt know he is a dentist, cuz i ran over him.
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Male 2,033
From the looks of the guy behind her, she is about to get raped again.
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Male 510
If the guy accused of rape was sober, then I can understand why she feels the way she does. If she repeatedly told him no, whether or not both of them were drinking or not, he is a rapist. If they were both drunk, and she didn`t say no, verbally or nonverbally, he is not a rapist, because both of their judgements were impaired.

Looking hot isn`t a crime, so she didn`t deserve to be raped just because she`s incredibly attractive, even if skimpy clothes make her look even hotter.
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Female 1,441
This Thanksgiving, I`m thankful that men in the "real world" aren`t like the men on IAB. My boyfriend would just shake his head sadly if he read some of the comments on this website regarding issues such as rape.
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Male 40,250

Everyone blamed her?
Everyone called her a slut?
Everyone said she was to blame?

They know her better than I do so I`ll take the word of everyone she knows.
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Male 2,516
bitch you drank too much, you got drunk at a bar (or somewhere) with a horny guy, you WERE asking for it. If you wanna be able to say no, you better not impair your ability to do so.
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Male 17,511
Lady if you truly `Asked for it` verbally then it wasn`t rape. As for your status as a slut that is perhaps true, maybe you should think before getting drunk and asking for sex from some guy you just met.
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Male 1,135
drating capslock non-nice individuals
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Male 14,331
I need a bottle of 151 and direction to the slutwalk ASAP!!
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Male 4,593
OldOllie "Good for her! I`d like to buy her a drink!"

God damn dude, that`s hardcore. Funny as hell, but hardcore none the less.
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Male 237
What responsibility? The way you are saying this, a 60-yo would not be responsible for a 13-yo rape because she`s beautiful and wearing skimpy clothes, and suddenly got breasts, or some poo reason like that.

I`m actually ashamed of people believing because we are men, we cannot control our urges and must 8==> everything we can. I`m a guy, I can control my urges. I can look at a beautiful girl and not lose my mind. I can even look at a beautiful naked girl and, although I might have something else in my mind, I wouldn`t try to force my way with her.

If you cannot control your urges, or even believe it`s natural something like this happens, I respectfully suggest you go see a shrink who can help you.

Rape is rape. It`s forced, and it`s not OK no matter the situation.
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Female 19
I find the attitude of many of the males in these comments to be terrifying. As fruitless as this may be, here`s an idea:

***MEN***

When you see a women who`s had too much to drink-

Don`t rape her

When you see a woman wearing a trashy outfit-

Don`t rape her

When a woman flirts with you but isn`t willing to have sex with you-

Don`t rape her

Need I go on? This is absolutely ridiculous.



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Male 8,693
M_Archer-"If she`s raped, then it`s the rapist`s fault."

Agreed. Charge the rapist.

BUT, if she got drunk and consented, it`s not always `rape`, sometimes it`s just `regret-in-the-morning` and `oh-poo-my-boyfriend-will-find-out` and all of a sudden she screams `RAPE`.

If it was rape, he is to blame. But you`ll have to admit that if she hadn`t gotten drunk and flirted with this guy and possibly consented, she wouldn`t have been in the situation.

Her ex-boyfriend blames her. Her friends blame her. They know her much better than I do. So who am I to argue?
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Male 8,693
M_Archer-"Therefore, I conclude that you`re blaming the victim."

She hasn`t proven that she`s a `victim`. The fact that the first line states `My rapist doesn`t know he`s a rapist`. Sounds more like she consented then had regrets when she sobered up.

M_Archer-"She has the right to get drunk and not be raped."

I agree. She should be able to get drunk and walk down the middle of the street in the middle of the Bronx butt naked wearing nothing but a Klan hood and not be molested in any way. The reality is that such behavior is not exactly the smart thing to do.
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Male 2,376
so when she was asking him to drat her she was drunk and fine with it.. when she passed out in a parking garage woke feeling like a piece of trash its rape..???
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Male 15,832
Good for her! I`d like to buy her a drink!
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Male 1,010
This is the not so complex ethical question, where idiots separate themselves from other people by not being able to take a stand without insulting other people.

Advising women, and men both, not to drink to much, because they become targets to criminals - does not make you an rape- apologetic.

This poster, however, is about how we put all the focus on the person being raped, while we never talk about how to deal with certain ideas that some men have towards women. It`s the focus in media and society in general that is the insult towards victims. Who ever questions mentality in society, where it is OK rape someone because they are drunk? It`s the kicking of someone who is all ready down. Lack of empathy, lets idiots fail.
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Male 408
lol bullpoo, you were drunk and consented! Goto the middle east where you get killed for being raped and then tell me our culture is bad.
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Male 525
Clarification: If she got drunk, had sex, and then regretted it later and then claimed rape, I have no sympathy. I`m assuming that she was drunk and had sex forced upon her.

@MeGrendel: "Accessory" needs and Actus Reus and a Mens Rea. There was no Mens Rea (but arguably, actus reas) to make herself an accessory to sexual assault. Therefore, I conclude that you`re blaming the victim.

She has the right to get drunk and not be raped. If she`s raped, then it`s the rapist`s fault; the rapist is purely in the moral wrong.
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Male 40,250

I call bull schitt.
I live in this culture and I don`t know anyone who thinks a woman`s shorts or skirt causes her to get raped. Maybe she really was just a slut who happened to get raped?

As for the drinking thing, I don`t know if this is her case however I think it`s wrong that if a woman get`s drunk, gives consent, then changes her mind it`s called "rape". How is it she cannot give informed consent drunk, but even drunk he is expected to correctly interpret that "Yes" meant "No". Take responsability for your actions people. Men and women.
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Male 28
Being drunk isn`t an excuse for cheating on your spouse / partner.
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Male 2,419
Oh you got too drunk? Who made that choice?

Being drunk means you can`t give consent? I guess you raped him too.
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Male 3,894
That depends on how it went down. If she was unwilling, and the man forced himself on her, it was rape.

If they had a drunk hookup and then she regretted it in the morning, he isn`t a rapist.

Just because you later regret something that you gave full consent for at the time doesn`t make it rape. If a sober person takes advantage of a drunk person who can`t protect themselves, then it is rape.

She needs to be more clear about her story.
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Male 8,693
At the line `I drank too much` she quit being a victim and became an accessory.

Was it right? No.
Was he to blame? Yes.
Did she have some culpability? Yes.

It an ideal world, anyone should be able to dress and act any way they wish with no repercussions.

But, we live in the real world. Acting certain ways sometimes invites unwelcome things.

Sleeping on the train tracks may be comfy, and 99% of the time there is not train coming. That 1% is a [email protected] That`s why I don`t do it.

Getting drunk sometimes leads to fights, car accidents, etc. That`s why I don`t do it.

Find the guy and press charges. BUT, if in your drunken stupor, you said `yes`, (or even are unable to prove you said `no`), and are unable to prove that your drunkeness obviously left you in an unsound state, you will lose.

Here`s a clue: Don`t get drunk & flirt and the chances of this happening are reduced (not eliminated, but reduced).
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Male 63
Being intoxicated does not suddenly mean you`re not responsible for your actions. It sounds like drunk her wanted to have sex; that makes it her fault. But the guy is at equal fault for taking advantage of someone who`s not capable of making rational decisions, theres a difference between her being drunk and her being completely poofaced/blacked out. Can`t completely put the blame on her or him. Boyfriend has a right to be mad at her though IMO
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Female 1,798
I`m not blaming her at all, no one deserves to be raped.

HOWEVER, if you wear booty shorts and a tight shirt, get drunk past the point of being in control of your actions, and flirt with strange men, you will more than likely attract the wrong kind of attention.

NOT saying she deserved it, only that she put herself in a less than desirable situation.
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Male 1,832
@Justin9235, Way to troll, bro. Way to troll.
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Male 2,389
these signs are rather boring. I`m taking it that she never did anything about being raped, other than go to a march/protest/whatever this is called and write out a story on a poster board. i would never fault a woman for taking action against a rapist (if she was raped) but to stand by and do nothing but take blame makes her no better. And this whole powerless, helpless bs. don`t want to hear that. We live in a world now where in 15 minutes if you want your story heard it will be. If it happens, take action. all i`m saying.
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Male 525
I agree with the poster; anyone who disagrees is a victim-blamer.

That being said, although it might not be your fault, you should be careful when in shady areas. I agree that you should be allowed to keep your Porsche`s top down with you iPhone in plain view and not get it stolen, but you still should be careful.
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Female 708
That`s depressing D: but good for her for getting her life back. She doesn`t look like someone who could have gone through something like that.
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Male 1,582
Sounds like it was her fault and she got what was coming to her. Don`t dress like a slut and get wasted at a party. You may not remember, but you were probably trying to have sex with him. Slut.
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Male 1,586
I feel bad for her and all, but if I was her boyfriend and she was drinking at the bar and flirting with other guys I`d be a little upset too.
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Male 554
..pfft.

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Female 584
Sad but true...
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Female 353
Link: A Fairly Controversial Sign At Slutwalk 2011 [Pic] [Rate Link] - She throws her life story all on one sign. I hope pressed charges on the guy.
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