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Date: 11/30/11 01:40 PM

33 Responses to 9-9-9 The Movie: Can It Slay The Tax Monster?

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    November 30, 2011 at 1:38 pm
    Link: 9-9-9 The Movie: Can It Slay The Tax Monster? - Would it work? Win or fail I-A-B?
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    Spear Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    A 9% National Sales Tax? drat that. RON PAUL 2012!
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    elderban Male 30-39
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    November 30, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    This video makes it sound like "all" taxes will disappear. This will only alleviate taxes on the Federal level. We`ll still be paying State and local (County, City, etc.) taxes as well, including sales taxes, gas taxes, luxury taxes, cigarette taxes, and any other tax that states, counties and/or municipalities currently have. So, you`d be paying a 9% sales tax ON TOP OF any state sales tax. For example, I live in Florida, and if I purchased something, I would have to pay a total of 16% sales tax (9% Federal plus 7% State/County) for every non-exempt item I purchased. Furthermore, unless it`s abolished, we`d still be paying for Social Security and whatever other deductions they take out of our paychecks as well.
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    HolyGod Male 30-39
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    November 30, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    Well, if an animated flash movie says so, it must be true. Unfortunately, as far as I know, no reputable economist has stated that any of these claims are probable.
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    Silverstone Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    The Cain solution? Sounds like a protocol for all out nuclear war with the ruskies and chinese.
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    kittilia Female 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    I like the simplifying of taxes. I feel it should be straight-forward, like this video suggests. However, I don`t feel Cain is the man to do it. Nor do I like it when he starts talking "exemptions." Exemptions will start to complicate things once again. Also, the federal sales tax is iffy. Arizona sales tax would go up to 18%...
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    The tax system needs an overhaul, no doubt. But this would probably make it worse... Flat tax is a bad idea, no matter how rapey the man suggesting it is..
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    PacoP42 Male 13-17
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    November 30, 2011 at 4:51 pm
    god that sounds like an awful idea
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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 30, 2011 at 5:11 pm
    9-9-9 is the upside down number of the beast and the tax system on The Sims.
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    rikakitty Female 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    At this point, I`m willing to try anything.
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    pfkdxius Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    The best graphic artists in the world can`t shine poo. 999 has been and is a terrible drating idea.
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    InTheNameOf Male 30-39
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    November 30, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    This video can`t math.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    November 30, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    Insanity is doing the same thing over and over but expecting different results. What we are doing now is not working.
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    rammo34 Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    Hell no, I enjoy Oregon`s lack of sales tax.
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    nubblins Female 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 7:34 pm
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    November 30, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    Tax the church 100% of all assets and revenue.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 8:12 pm
    yea i`m good, this man speaks the truth, RON PAUL 2012
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    skine Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 8:15 pm
    I know the video mostly is focusing on taxes that affect businesses.

    However, the idea of a flat income tax is simply idiotic. The reason for a progressive tax is that it accounts for the effect on quality of life better than a flat tax.

    So, say for example the flat tax is 20%, since this is a more reasonable number.

    That would mean that if a person is making $1,000,000/year, they would have $800,000 after taxes. Their quality of life changes little to none.

    For someone making $100,000/year, they would have $80,000 after taxes. This would make a marked difference in terms of quality of life, but it`s not an unreasonable difference to accept.

    Now, for someone making $10,000/year, they would have $8,000 after taxes. This makes a HUGE difference on their quality of life. If they`re paying $500/month for rent, that leaves only $2000/year for food, clothing, transportation, repairs, health costs, etc.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    November 30, 2011 at 8:25 pm
    Draculya: Crawl your trolling azz back under your bridge.
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    For every problem, there is a quick, simple and wrong solution. 9-9-9 is one example of such solutions.
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    RFMITCH1 Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    @ skine

    Watch to the end of the video and post. I`m a liberal, actually a Libertarian, and this still makes sense. I can"t stand these fools that just spout poo concerning their preconceived notions.


    You sir, should be awarded. *applause*
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    snakecharmer Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 9:38 pm
    Good call ledzeppeloyd
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    November 30, 2011 at 10:09 pm
    I don`t think so.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    Simplifying taxes - Good
    Making it into another drated up system - Bad
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    Samsquanch Male 30-39
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    December 1, 2011 at 3:58 am
    They just need to look at Canada for this, if they`re trying to say that it will drive the prices down.
    When GST was initiated, it dissolved the VAT (where each time a product passed through processing, it was taxed). Problem was, when the VAT was removed, every supplier and distributor thought, "I`ll lower my prices when my competitors do...till then, I`ll enjoy this extra 5% increase in profit).
    Same thing when HST was introduced. HST dissolved PST (provincial sales) and GST (goods and services) and made a homogenized tax. Before, things could be PST exempt, but not HST exempt. Business didn`t have to pay PST on products, only GST. Now, items for resale are HST exempt, thus saving businesses another 5%...which they said "I`ll drop my prices when the other guy does".
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    gymcoach29 Male 30-39
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    December 1, 2011 at 4:31 am
    We left England because of the unreasonable taxes imposed by the King (among other things). Over the last 70 years the things government has imposed taxes on has increased exponentially. We need to removal all taxes except for sales tax and reduce spending. That is the most simple and fair way to do it. The more you spend, the more taxes you pay..simple and efficient and the government needs to find a way to live within its own means...kind of like the way EVERY household has to do.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    December 1, 2011 at 6:56 am

    Preach, brotha, preach.
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
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    December 1, 2011 at 7:51 am
    doesn`t matter if it would work or not, when something has been in play so long in a country so young, its not gonna change.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    December 1, 2011 at 8:52 am
    Lower their prices because of competition? Sort of the way all the gas stations are lower their prices to compete with one another?
    *rolls eyes*
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    sssfdg Male 18-29
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    December 1, 2011 at 9:33 am
    lol... this is just wrong. I mean its a fun cartoon... but explain`s nothing.

    Honestly... are we really supposed to trust Cain? Really?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    December 1, 2011 at 10:58 am
    I`d certainly like to see a much simplified tax system, the tax loopholes corporations get now means they virtually pay nothing, Like GE.

    But adding a VAT and a national sales tax is mainly going to hurt low income people the worst and that`s really not fair.

    Too simple is bad, too complicated is worse, there needs to be a fair and viable medium.
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    _Perfection_ Male 18-29
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    December 2, 2011 at 10:20 am
    Nice little cartoon. Completely wrong, but a nice cartoon nonetheless.
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
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    December 3, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    i`m sorry, but that`s just stupid.

    in a perfect world it looks good in cartoons, but really. yes, they will pocket the money. no people won`t go where it`s cheaper, they will keep the price the same and tell people you should spend more because we serve quality and they don`t.

    the poor - which makes up so much of the country don`t pay the tax, so the they are exempt- so no money there. industry, many large ones don`t pay anything either, i doubt they will pay the 9%. small commercial couldn`t afford that much. and other`s can`t afford 9% on anything. it was bad enough they raised it to 7%. don`t see how it`s going to get jobs either. and where is the money for the government? they take all those cuts to remove the debt they made.

    what about the wars we fight? all the money we give out? who is paying that? many will profit, but not the consumer, they lose the most since the tax went up.

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