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    madest Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2011 at 9:10 am
    Link: 5-Year-Old Charged W/ Battery On A Police Officer - More on our ever expanding police state.
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    tatervent Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 11:11 am
    you don`t know what a police state is
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    Adamo Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 11:18 am
    What the hell!? I was expecting a white kid!
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    elhowell Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 11:24 am
    That. is drated up.
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 11:29 am
    I know what a police state is.


    And the direction our country is going is heading right there.

    I served this country proudly, I love this country, however, I do NOT love our system of government nor our politicians.

    There is no freedom of choice in a 2 party system. There can be no government by the people when lobbyists spend over a billion dollars a year on their agendas.

    Wake up America, the dream has become a nightmare.
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    lostinkorea Female 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 12:29 pm
    Adamo
    Male, 18-29, Europe
    5 Posts Saturday, November 26, 2011 11:18:41 AM
    What the hell!? I was expecting a white kid!
    ____

    LOL, me too! All kids these days seem to have ADHD, ADD and other acronyms. It`s ridiculous! He OBVIOUSLY has zero respect for authority figures and adults in general. She need to beat his butt and straighten him out like they did in my day...BE A GOD DAMN PARENT AND CONTROL YOUR BRAT!
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    "Stranger touches child. Child responds with fear. Child is bound and kidnapped for hours in response."
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    iamboredtooo Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    where`s daddy?
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    Byfield Male 18-29
    464 posts
    November 26, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    Okay, just stop posting these damn things. It was worse before the internet, now its just published. I for one, dont give a poo. They do what they can and I can sleep at night because of it. Its not some super horrible organisation sending out death squads to kill all ethnic minorities.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    November 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Isn`t ADHD being a little over-diagnosed? Where were all these cases when I was a kid? I don`t recall seeing any kids who wouldn`t sit still or follow directions (more or less) in school. Is it supposed to be some xenogenous epidemic that has suddenly sprung up? It sounds awfully dubious, and I suspect, as others here have alluded, that ADHD crops up in single-parent families at a disproportionate rate. I wouldn`t say it doesn`t exist, but that a lot of behavior problem cases are muddying the waters when it comes to identifying genuine cases among scores of plain old brats.
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    Turnshroud Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Ok, so at first i thought this was going to be similar to that vid where a toddler hits a police officer after seeing his mom arrested...

    This is just effing stupid
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    GhettoNinja is right.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    I was not aware that enforcing laws makes us a police state.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    Also, since when did ADD mean undisciplined?
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    jendrian Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm
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    C_Frost Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    good. the kid needs help and needs to be taken out of society
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    C_Frost Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    ghettoninja knows nothing.
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    Tekas Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    "Isn`t ADHD being a little over-diagnosed?"

    Yes, and apparently it serves an excuse for everything.
    Funny how every kid I met that misbehaved was said to have ADD or ADHD or something like that when the proper diagnostic should probably be "Lack of education caused by bad parents."
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    shappy Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 2:03 pm
    add or not, the kid is only five, im sure there were other ways of keeping him calm than to handcuff him. or just let the kid tire himself out, he wont be able to do anything anyway
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    Misfit-Mutt Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    I sympathize with him. I don`t like strange men touching me either.
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    CmdrBittles Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    Yes, it`s clear that this kid has issues, mental or emotional. But come on...he`s 5. Arresting him? Really? He`s 5! That`s not going to help this kid at all. What he needs is one on one work with a child psychologist.
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    ivran Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    @CmdrBittles
    From my understanding, that`s what they intended to do. I would assume that they handcuffed him to prevent him from doing anything that would cause the police to have to use further force. With people crying `excessive force` over just about anything these days, I don`t really blame them.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    I think maybe the police officer could have just left the room. I mean, I am not a cop or a child psychologist, but usually when a kid is being a pain, I just leave. That`s just me.
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    Idlerlee2 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    He is FIVE. Handcuffing is such a improper response to agitated behaviour from whats basicly a toddler.

    Really? FIVE years old. Anyone that agrees with this type of reaction disgust me
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    ivran Male 18-29
    599 posts
    November 26, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    @Idlerlee2

    Stop being a female dog. People like you make terrible parents. It`s not like he beat or pepper sprayed the kid. If children refuse to be disciplined through verbal means, then a small amount of force is necessary. Also, if a FIVE year old doesn`t know to respect the police, then, without help, do you honestly think he will when he`s an adult? Also, it`s a little disturbing to me that a five year old is displaying that kind of violent behavior in the first place.
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    Ant0n Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 4:33 pm
    What`s the worst thing a five year old could possibly do to a grown man??
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2011 at 4:40 pm

    Totally Justified.
    The kid was out of control and a danger to other kids. If left a lone unrestrained he was a danger to himself.

    Where is Judge Will Adams when you need him?
    Pepper Spray the bastard and he`ll learn to calm down on command.
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    biogeek Female 30-39
    57 posts
    November 26, 2011 at 6:00 pm
    I am sick and tired of people blaming ADHD for behavior problems. Impulse issues present themselves by speaking out of turn and getting up to do things when the time is not appropriate; it is not vindictive or aggressive. This is an aggressive outburst NOT a symptom of ADHD. If a parent allows this behavior to continue it reinforces that behavior and does the child no good. A good parent would try to correct the bad behaviors through a combination of praising and rewarding the good behaviors and condemning and punishing the bad behaviors. This can teach the child the proper way to act so he wont grow up to be a delinquent criminal when he grows up.

    "To bring up a child in the way he should go, travel that way yourself once in a while." ~Josh Billings
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    the_windy Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 7:10 pm
    The kid had a temper tantrum. Put him time out and let him calm down, then tell him to apologize. Don`t handcuff him and send him on his way with a police officer.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    November 26, 2011 at 8:08 pm
    No spray? No taser? No toilet plunger?
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    Lilou88 Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 8:43 pm
    Yeah, `cause nothing is more dangerous to a grown man than a skinny five year old. Totally justifiable...
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 26, 2011 at 9:03 pm
    "ADHD" is just modern liberal touchy-feely talk for "needs a good, old-fashioned ass-whoopin`"
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    The_tru_bob Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 9:36 pm
    Are you kidding? "A five year old kicked me in the knee mommy! PUNISH HIM PUNISH HIM" he`s a friggin five year old what the hell do you expect? In the officer`s statement it almost seemed justifiable, if I were the kid I wouldn`t want some strange man (police officer especially) putting his hands on me. He probably deserved to get kicked. Also, why wasn`t the mom there with them in the first place?
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    November 26, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    Spank him. That is all.
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    clancy54 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 9:44 pm
    OldOllie = troll.
    You might be stupid if a story about a kid with a meidcal condition is linked to politics.
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 10:03 pm
    I can`t decide whether to post a comment that`s understanding and against this, or just plain racist for my own amusement.
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    klaxor Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    We need to lock that criminal up!!!
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    alsobored Male 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 10:18 pm
    She didn`t know until 2 weeks later that her son with zip-tied.
    F*ck, talk to your kid!
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    Yeah... ADHD doesn`t cause violence or mood disruption. I really really wish people would stop making this connection.

    Here is the DSM-IV TR diagnostic criteria for ADHD.

    I think Conduct Disorder is also likely in conjunction with his ADHD. You are looking at a dual-diagnosis here.

    This kid needs some major therapy, medications, and possibly case management. The mother also has some major issues if she is ignoring this kid`s problems and blaming the school for doing nothing -- when it is obvious she has been lax as a parent.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 10:30 pm
    I like how people who have no education and no experience in the schools seem to think an officer of the law acted inappropriate when arresting someone who physically exploded in a class room.

    Lol.

    I work in the school, I have seen 5 year old children injure others; including adults. The right move was to restrain this kid and refer him out. Psychiatric evaluations in this situation is not only appropriate, but it is the law. We (psychologists and law officers and school staff) have a duty to protect others. This child was presenting himself as a danger to himself and others. Not acting is criminal and cruel.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 26, 2011 at 10:32 pm
    * I am not a psychologist yet. I retract that statement, as I can not legally claim that title. I do however have a degree in psychology (BS) and am obtaining an MA in clinically psychology. In Kentucky (the state I live in) it is legal for me to work as an interventionist, and claim the title "psychologist" with a MA.
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    Spaztazoid Female 18-29
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    November 26, 2011 at 11:21 pm
    Wow elkingo, way to judge this family from a 3 minute video...I`m curious, does it say anything about insecure yet pretentious "not quite there yet" psychologist in the DSM?
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    MrAtari Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2011 at 12:04 am
    shannon cannon?
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    bex753 Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2011 at 1:56 am
    it should not go to court at the age of 5 you have not reached an age of criminal responsibility
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    cybercow Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 2:15 am
    Sounds to me like the officer should be charged with assault, and possibly child molestation. He touched the child without any reason. No stranger should lay a hand on a child.
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    nayrbarr Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2011 at 3:51 am
    @cybercow Well, you clearly have no idea what molestation is.
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    britt566 Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2011 at 5:43 am
    "Well, you clearly have no idea what molestation is."

    LOL
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    FuriousC Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 6:07 am
    Parental Fail
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 7:01 am
    @Spaztazoid -- the mom didn`t seem to know about a near crisis her child had at school that resulted in him being cuffed with cable ties for two weeks. No judgement there, just how is she that uninvolved?

    It just seems that she wants to blame her child`s problems on ADHD and the school. That seems to be the most contributing factor to me.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 7:06 am
    Oh and Spaztazoid, I am not sure if I suffer from narcissism, or if I am just surrounded by idiots. Lol. I kid of course. I may be a bit pretentious, but what I am seeing in practice, forums, and other outlets is parents blaming ADHD for all sorts of problems.

    ADHD basically means your child is hyper and has trouble paying attention. It doesn`t mean they have mood disturbances or violent tendencies.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 7:10 am
    bex753 -- if it does go to court, it won`t be to bring the child up on criminal charges, it will most likely be to place the child in a Emotional/Behavioral unit at school; and/or psychological treatment.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    November 27, 2011 at 8:22 am
    ADHD...Blah, blah blah. I had it as a kid. It made it hard for me to focus on what the teacher was teaching, especially in a "lecture" scenario. In no way shape or form is it an excuse for bad behaviour. That, IMO is the fault of bad parenting.
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    Spaztazoid Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    Without knowing the context or the circumstances, It`s pretty easy for us this sit here and play the blame game. I`m not saying it`s the ADHD, but who knows what other problems this kid has. Could be the mom, could be the school system, could be the teacher he has...who knows? Ultimately the cop was a dick. Surprised he didn`t tase him.
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    Sloppy1 Male 18-29
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    November 27, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    The kid better get used to cops cuffing him.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
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    November 27, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    My Dad taught me that when the cop says "Do this " you do it and say "Yes Sir". Saves a whole lotta trouble. You people seem to think it is some kind of cool to disrespect authority by whining and being a public nuisance. That just ain`t cool people. It is no wonder cops go bad or burn out early. Later they get to pick your shattered body out of the ditch when you drink/drug and drive. Now our kids are trying to be `mercan by rioting at hockey games. F#0k me people are stupid these days.
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    I totally got caught off guard when they said Shannon Cannon. I wasn`t expecting a rhyming name.
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    cptbeech Male 30-39
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    November 27, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    that kid doesn`t need therapy he needs his ass whipped. But that same cop that took him off will take you off for doing it. that is all
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    pinkducks Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    Its not the child`s fault that he has ADHD, I myself have it, and until he can learn to control his actions, his parents and teachers are there to help and guide him. The policemen did wrong by over reacting, when Michael pushed his hand away, that should have been warning enough that he was not comfortable in the policemen touching him. There was no need for zip ties or the trip to the hospital.
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    JUGGALETTEx0 Female 18-29
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    November 27, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    wtg stockton cali 2 posts in 1 day!
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    stell Female 40-49
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    November 27, 2011 at 10:30 pm
    Battery charges for a 5 year!!??? WTF? This is a new low for USA. WTF is wrong with you people?? Charge the cop with a battery on a 5 year old for crying out loud.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    November 28, 2011 at 6:56 am
    You can`t even charge a 5-year old with anything as far as I know. Doesn`t the charge transfer to the parents/guardians in cases like this?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    November 28, 2011 at 7:40 am

    blah blah blah. Teachers & Parents blah blah blah

    I think the point was that the efforts of Teachers and Parents had failed and the kid was out of control. A danger to other kids. A danger to himself if left alone and unrestrained. Sometimes, handcuffs are not a punishment, they are a means to restrain you and prevent further shenanigans.

    I`m sure the cop tried all the less extreme things before he said "I don`t have all freaking day to deal with one out of control kid no matter the reason he`s out of control".
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    Edgarska19 Male 18-29
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    November 28, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    Do people even know what a police state is?
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    November 29, 2011 at 12:27 am
    clancy54, the stupidity of liberalism is not confined to the voting booth.
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    clickclack Male 18-29
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    November 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    Hey, at least the officer showed the kid that he had no reason to hate cops
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    PhotoKing Male 30-39
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    December 1, 2011 at 1:38 pm
    adhd - does not exist, it`s a way to sell drugs. because he was" diagnosed, they are using that as an excuse like he didn`t know any better, which bugs me. he`s hyper in school, so they got a cop to single him out - which makes no sense at all. he responded correctly, he`s a stranger, he attacked the stranger. not sure why they had to cuff even his legs, and to a hospital?

    there`s a history here we are not hearing about.

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