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    alexis21 Female 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:08 am
    Link: This Is Why There`s An Occupy Wall Street - Why do American banks have to suck so bad?
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    Aints Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:13 am
    That does suck and I know people with similar stories, however.. Maybe its time for him to find a new career.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:15 am
    They say that the only two things that are certain in life are death and taxes. I`ll add two more. Wall St. is going to collapse again and ask for more bailouts, and their CEO`s are going to give themselves big fat bonuses again.

    Occupy Wall Street.
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    Aedran Female 18-29
    295 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 10:16 am
    Because America doesn`t own its own dollar. That`s why.
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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:19 am
    maybe the people are being to "honest"
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    Listypoos Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:23 am
    It`s not just american banks... their entire business model is to bleed 90& of their customers `almost` dry.
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    Evil_Eye Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:31 am
    If your wife left only because you lost your job due to redundancies, you need a better wife. I have a feeling he left out other bad habbits off this notice... or maybe I caught the I-Am-Pessimistic bug.
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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 10:34 am
    usually bank people think that in life the strongest wins all right and the weak die or serve their masters

    from my part i think everyone is a "God"
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    xelous Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:10 am
    Goes back to gold standard
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:10 am
    A few months ago, a animated short was posted on IAB about "The American Dream" (our banks and government). Go watch it.
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    OldOllie Male 60-69
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:15 am
    What a pathetic f***ing loser.
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    bentley22 Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:24 am
    so far, the occupy wall street movement has been a real success: Bank of America added fees the other day, and today Citibank did the same.

    If you don`t like banks, don`t use their products. Move on. Stuff your money under a mattress, cut up your credit cards. We are the ones who have made banks an indispensable part of our lives, which is why they were bailed out. We have only ourselves to blame.
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    CRAIGJ Male 40-49
    138 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 11:27 am
    Lets not forget Barney Frank and company forcing Freddie and Fanny to give home loans to anyone with a nickle to there name. Seems funny that the people protesting are the same people that vote for these kind of libtards.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:29 am

    I`m in the same boat with that guy but it`s not only the banks.
    Time to Occupy our Government! Clearly, they don`t represent us anymore.
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    bentley22 Male 30-39
    244 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 11:31 am
    @CRAIGJ - Libtard is now my new word of the day. Ha ha
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Even though you`re mad at the banks (even if it`s for a good reason--the subprime crisis was caused by the government) you don`t have the right to forcibly occupy another`s property. Ever.

    The socialists and the statists` laws break the economy and not allow it to function properly. When the economy fails, they convince people--like this man--that capitalism has failed in order to get more controls.

    This isn`t the first time they`re doing this, and it won`t be the last.

    @Gerry: I agree--it`s Occupy the Government time.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:40 am
    Gerry took the words right out of my mouth!
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 11:56 am
    What`s wrong with you Conservatards?

    Fannie+Freddie deliberately sold crap loans to people because they could (ie. no regulation against it) and more importantly they could do it profitably. Ridiculously profitably.

    This is how the glorious "free market" works when there`s no one minding the store, this is how it *should be* according to your own beliefs. And now you wanna occupy the govt. that basically hasn`t done *anything* athwart these crooks? unbelievable.
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    Ajikan Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 11:58 am
    If you lost your wife because you had no money or a home. She was a whore. Plain and simple.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    He lost his job/business in 1980. Then he comes back for 25-28 years, and is successful. Then his particular skills go out of demand again. What plans did he make in those 25-28 years to weather the next storm? Did he pay of his home so that it was not at risk or repeatedly double down on his mortgage? Did he put funds in a retirement/rainy day fund or did he just keep buying the next gadget/vacation/etc. that came along? Did he keep leveraging his business or work to the point that it had a fat cash cushion? When the housing bubble burst, as people kept saying it would for months if not years, was he positioned to take advantage or get crushed? When his business was going down did strategically withdraw to minimize losses or ride the ship down?

    Very rarely are your circumstances totally out of your control, even rarer is this the case in the US.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    >>>Fannie+Freddie deliberately sold crap loans to people because they could (ie. no regulation against it) and more importantly they could do it profitably. <<<


    Frannie and Feddie were required by the feds to purchase loans without checking if the borrow could repay them. Barney Frank supported this action.
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    elgrappa Male 18-29
    96 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    citizens are really pissed!
    anarchists unite, the time has come!

    "when one makes 20 million, ten-thousand people lose. what keeps that one from swallowing a shotgun"
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    randomxnp Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:09 pm
    Surely this is a government problem, not a bank problem. Any company will take assistance freely given, or given at a cost far lower than its value. The government is at fault for offering this. Iceland, which could not bail out its banks and had a far worse crisis than the USA, is doing fine now.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    This is how the glorious "free market" works...
    QueenZira, that is not how the free market works at all. Fannie & Freddie would never have been in this mess if they hadn`t been a GSE. With the perception that the government would never allow such large financial institutions to go under, Fannie & Freddie were able to borrow more than the free market would naturally allow (i.e. loaning a reasonable amount of credit that would not create a bubble, causing a huge financial crisis). If F&F had not been propped up and then eventually bailed out, this would not have happened. In a free market, businesses are rightly left to thrive or die off; no bailouts. It`s when the government steps in and warps market perceptions that causes firms to expand past what the market would naturally allow. It`s all about incentives. Price signals are the nerves of the economy. When the government steps in and tries to deaden the nerves for the sake of alleviating pain,
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    >>>when one makes 20 million, ten-thousand people lose. what keeps that one from swallowing a shotgun<<<

    Life is not a zero sum game.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    (Cont.)

    When the government steps in and tries to deaden the nerves for the sake of alleviating pain, the whole body suffers. In this case, the burden was placed onto the tax payers. Get the government out and you won`t have this problem.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    Dang007/random (or whichever name you wish to go by) No. And just name dropping Frank doesn`t make you more credible either.

    Ptart- F+F, Lehman, AIG and others created an environment where they were "Too Big TO Fail" and if we ever let them fail we would have another great depression. So it`s basically a bailout or your economy. Your money or your life. Paulson, W`s Wall Street brain was weeping on bended knee in congress literally begging for the bailouts.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
    2842 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    Have fun blocking public roadways ya old coot.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Iceland, which could not bail out its banks and had a far worse crisis than the USA, is doing fine now.
    --------------
    Indeed they are. They replaced their male politicians with female politicians. The male bankers with female bankers and elected a lesbian prime minister. They have cleaned up the mess that the men made and it is an example we should emulate!
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5879 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    QueenZira-"Fannie+Freddie deliberately sold crap loans to people because they could (ie. no regulation against it)"

    A little lesson: Banks do not make money by loaning money to people who can not repay it. They make money by loaning money to people who have the ability (and morals) to pay it back.

    The banks were forced to make loans to anyone who could sign their name by the government: (Community Reinvestment Act, etc) and by Racebaiters (ACORN filed harrassing lawsuits in order to get banks to lower credit standards and hand out high-risk loans). Intimidation tactics, public charges of racism and threats to use CRA to block business expansion have enabled ACORN to extract hundreds of millions of dollars in loans and contributions from America’s financial institutions. (Jesse Jackson is famous for his `Prove you Bank ain`t racist by giving me a crapload of money` extortion.)

    THAT is how you make a bank go broke.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    Ptart- F+F, Lehman, AIG and others created an environment where they were "Too Big TO Fail" and if we ever let them fail we would have another great depression.
    Did you completely skim over my previous statement? They have the easy credit because the Fed allows them the credit. The only reason these gigantic firms were able to do what they did is because they knew they would get a bailout. How cautious would you be in accepting risky investments if you were sure the government was going to give you a bailout?

    So it`s basically a bailout or your economy.
    NO. A bailout only helps the big bankers and their pals on Wall Street and K Street. We`re headed towards even worse times if we continue to ignore the root cause of the problem. The economy is running on borrowed time and even more borrowed dime at this point. It`s not going to be pretty.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 12:37 pm
    Grendel, the very fact that you mentioned Acorn in your tirade even once tells me you haven`t yet taken off your tinfoil cap and rejoined Objective Reality. But I`ll alert the media when it happens.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    Ptart, through years and years of no regulation on Wall Street, and subtle tactics of weakening the cops who were supposed to be chasing the robbers, Wall Street was essentially left to it`s own devices and screwed everything up. Naturally now, they want the govt. to pay for their mistakes. Because remember socialism is fine as long as we`re talking about privatizing all the profit and socializing all the risk.

    The bailout helped the economy because our economy essentially just moves money around anymore, we don`t make anything anymore Goddess knows. And if the banks were unable to lend the whole thing would collapse.
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    Phosphoreign Male 30-39
    309 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    It`s interesting how he has a far nicer, and more expensive living room (note the natural wood beams above his head - I couldn`t afford that) than I do for someone who has been "financially crushed"... maybe it wasn`t Wall St. but the BOOZE that lost him his house & wife...
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5879 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    QueenZira, I realize that you`re ignorant enough to support a corrupt organization like ACORN, as long as they support your side, but in this case they were culpable in the subject matter of the thread.

    In 2007 lost his home and his wife? Damn, I`d like to see the terms of THAT mortgage.

    I didn`t realize the banks let you put up your wife as collateral.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5879 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    Actually, he could have said that much more succinctly:

    "I am 62 years old and have made bad decisions in my life".

    See, much shorter.

    (and, I hate to tell him this, but 99% of people have not lost their home).
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    sethmccary Male 18-29
    208 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    @Phosphoreign - I know, can you believe that guy? He`s obviously a poser. I mean, how can he even afford the INTERNET if he`s doing so poorly?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    Wow... sad story
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    MichaelBored Male 40-49
    206 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    @Phosphoreign: "It`s interesting how he has a far nicer, and more expensive living room (note the natural wood beams above his head - I couldn`t afford that) than I do for someone who has been "financially crushed."

    Check out Sherlock over here. With his mad detecting skillz, he`s deduced that this guy isn`t really financially crushed because he can see wood beams behind him...

    ...as if that were his own house, and not a family member`s. Or neighbor`s. Or somewhere he`s renting a room.

    And on top of that, Phosphoreign`s suggestion that BOOZE is the actual root of this man`s problems, based on...well, nothing at all....Really, could you possibly BE any douchier?
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    asherq Female 18-29
    21 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    MeGrendel, you are an idiot. if your business collapsed because of the greedy practices of other people, you`d blame it on yourself?? i doubt it. also, just because 99% of people have not lost their homes does not mean that he is not a part of the 99% of americans that are struggling, which is what the slogan refers to. stop being a dick and start having some compassion.
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    asherq Female 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    Phosphoreign, what makes you think that`s his living room? maybe he`s at a friend`s house using his computer, or maybe he`s using free internet in a hotel lobby, or maybe you should just try to chill out about being professor ceiling beams over there and discrediting this guy`s pain.
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    Heureux Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    Phosphoreign: "It`s interesting how he has a far nicer, and more expensive living room "

    Actually, it looks like a homeless shelter.
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    shamrock1014 Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    This country needs a revolution.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    Get back to work you bum.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 2:48 pm
    asherq-"your business collapsed because of the greedy practices of other people"

    He`s blaming other people. That does not make it so. `Home Builder` means `construction worker`. Construction work is invariably spotty, depending on the economy. A GOOD construction worker will put some aside for lean times or have second jobs. (Yes, I know, and am related to, `home builders and designers`).

    He lost his home to the `sub-prime mortgage crisis`. Which means he took out a loan for more than he could pay back. Contrary to popular belief, banks were not forcing people to take out loans at the point of the gun. He made a bad decision.

    His wife leaving him? Probably her realizing she made a bad decision.

    asherq-"start having some compassion"

    I have compassion, for those that deserve it. (How many households did YOU help rebuild after Katrina?)
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    CCMA_19 Female 18-29
    311 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    "Get back to work you bum."
    How many jobs hire people his age? NOT MANY AT ALL!!! MOST employers look for people who are younger and have experience with todays technology. Besides, his sign doesn`t say he is out of work Nice job being a dumbass Canada. Go back to school.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3348 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 3:05 pm
    Oldollie said: "What a pathetic f***ing loser."

    Cheer up. You`ll find someone better.
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    LandoGriffin Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 4:40 pm
    I don`t understand how the economy made his wife leave him. Maybe it is because he is a whiny bitch.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
    689 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    Clearly this guy isn`t very good at what he does/did.

    Perhaps next time he will save some money up? or maybe he will know when to let go of a failing business, or perhaps not and he will be remembered as an idiot.

    ...Idiot.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
    3775 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    i can empathize, but then i`m nearly this guy`s age. lost my job, lost my house, then by government mandate, lost my trade. went from a comfortable $35,000 to $40,000 per year to working for minimum wage. but i`m DAMN GLAD to get that. i`m not lazy, nor afraid to work. would gladly work something paying more if it were available but in some areas of the country, like mine, its not. and it takes a lot of dough to relocate and start over; i know because i had to do it.

    its easy to say that this guy`s a slacker but no one really knows for sure.

    if you`re young, be grateful because you have a chance to succeed. us old broads don`t really have one anymore.
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    chillimac Male 18-29
    438 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    "Clearly this guy isn`t very good at what he does/did.

    Perhaps next time he will save some money up? or maybe he will know when to let go of a failing business, or perhaps not and he will be remembered as an idiot.

    ...Idiot."

    the man is a very small cog in a very large machine. in a time when alot of people are losing there homes not many are building new ones right? so its pretty much the worst situation possible to be in his line of work. so stop kicking a guy when hes down.

    ...idiot.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    MeGrendel is a perfect example of opinion media brainwashing. He is an angry parrot. You could make a drinking game out of how many conservative talking points he repeats.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Klamz,

    first off you are too young to understand just how stupid you truly are and considering the job market you are facing now that pretty much means you are truly screwed.

    you are facing a future where even people with master degrees and doctorates cannot find work, where highly skilled workers are out of business because of the economy. you kid are so screwed it is better you are too stupid to know by just how much or your little berries might jump back up inside you...twit.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 5:31 pm
    I cannot imagine how there are people here slamming this guy...he worked his ass off with his own business for years and due to too MANUFACTURED financial crisis he lost it all while fat cats got bailed out.

    I am disgusted by what I see other Americans saying here, defending the rich and the idea that this guy was a slacker rather than a causality of greed.

    to those that slam this guy, F U.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3876 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 5:36 pm
    "I am disgusted by what I see other Americans saying here, defending the rich and the idea that this guy was a slacker rather than a causality of greed."

    This is what big business wants. As long as we are fighting with each other and being partisan we are not attacking them. Until these states can become united again we are screwed.
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    djlazar Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 6:02 pm
    Ha ha loser.
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    YANKmyDOODLE Male 30-39
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    October 5, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    sucks to be him
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    Locke357 Male 18-29
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    October 5, 2011 at 6:17 pm
    Wow . . . this really makes me sad
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    markust123, I`m still waiting to see how him losing his house and his wife had anything to do with `the rich` or `the banks`. The only way in which a bank is involved is that he took our a really crappy mortgage and couldn`t pay it back. No one FORCED him to take out the mortgage. No one held his feet to a hot iron while he signed the paper.

    Unlike some, I haven`t said anything about his work ethic or his honesty. I just cast doubt on some of the decisions he`s made and pointed out the fact that he has a very bad case of `it`s Da Riches fault` (after all, it couldn`t POSSIBLY be his).

    I made a bad decision on my first wife (bad, HORRIBLE decision). I didn`t blame `da rich` or `da guv`mint` or anyone else. Just blamed my own stupidity of thinking with the wrong part of my anatomy.

    I`ve lost two houses. 1st to the first wife, and the second to Katrina. I didn`t blame `da rich` for the first nor Bush for the second. I rebuilt the second.
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    Viking864 Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    You do realize that these big businesses started out being a small business like this guy had right? It`s always easier to blame the other guy then to take responsibility for ourselves.
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    seetherage Male 18-29
    85 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    I have to agree with some here... the industry began changing far before he was 14. He saw an opportunity at the time and invested himself in it. If he didn`t prepare himself for the future, its partially his fault. Its not just because you live in the US that the GOVT NEEDS to bail you out. (Unless you are poor and black.. but thats another debate)
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    HOBOMOE Male 18-29
    515 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 6:46 pm
    America is moving into a new direction, it`s not a Republic but rather a plutocracy. The sooner you realize that fact, the sooner you`ll start to care about what`s going on and why we will all share this same fate because of your inaction.
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    seetherage Male 18-29
    85 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 6:47 pm
    @MeGrendel, my hero.
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    seetherage Male 18-29
    85 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 6:52 pm
    well yea, plutocracy is true of almost every country. The wealthy will always `rule` over the other classes. If it wasn`t that way, it would be a socialist country. Put yourself in the shoes of a wealthy person: you worked your ass off, went to school for > 20 years. YOU built a business that is successful. The moment you get into rough times and have to let some of your employees go, they will blame you. Even though most of them have 1/10 of your dedication,they will blame you because its the easiest target. I am neither rich nor poor, but I work for my living; If things get rough, I find a way around it and better prepare myself for the future. Its not the GOVTs fault I `had` 3 kids, its not their fault I took a pooty mortgage on my house, its MY fault.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    October 5, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    "We are the 99%"

    LMAO! LOLZ! What a stupid-arse slogan!

    These cretins represent only 2 parts of society: ultra-leftist loons and Union thugs. Hardly 0.99% of the USA, actually. I guess the sloganeers slipped a decimal place or three...
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    Heureux Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    "I cannot imagine how there are people here slamming this guy. . . "

    There are people on the internet who are so wretched, and so purposely useless, and so devoid of any possible contribution to the world, that they have to make themselves feel good by mocking and maligning people like this guy. They feel alive only when they add to the misery of others.

    They always have justifications and excuses, but in the end, it is all about j*cking off their ego in public.
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    Heureux Male 40-49
    1054 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 7:03 pm
    "I have compassion, for those that deserve it. "

    That is not compassion, that`s ego.
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    seetherage Male 18-29
    85 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 7:22 pm
    No one is saying we don`t feel bad, but we fail to see the relation between this guys downfall and his Occupation of wall st. Its like when the prettiest girl in school breaks up with you, you go and do protests at the principals office accusing them of awarding scholarships to the guy who she dumped you for. Hardwork doesn`t always equal $$. I respect this fellow, but he unfortunately put effort in what was short term.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    October 5, 2011 at 7:32 pm
    Heureux-`That is not compassion, that`s ego.`

    Nope, that`s reality.

    Who are you probably going to have more compassion for? Hellen Keller or Ed Gein?

    Are people more likely to feel sorry for a child run over by a drunk driver? Or the drunk driver?

    It`s unfortunate that he`s had his downs along with his ups. But that`s life. Live is not/never has been/never will be either cheap, easy or fair.

    He`s been faced with the reality of `The American Dream`. Everyone is free to succeed, or fail, as they can. That is the definition of The American Dream, after all, the promise of the possibility of prosperity and success. It has nothing to do with guaranteeing one that it will be easy.

    He just needs to quit blaming others. I`m sure he didn`t blame `The Rich` when he had a successful business, why is it their fault when it fails?
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    huh123 Male 13-17
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    October 5, 2011 at 7:52 pm
    I support the protest
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3435 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 8:09 pm
    You know what, we need a Goddamn Bloodletting. We need some mother effers to suffer and die apparently, if for no other reason than to serve as a very poignant reminder that we have to be nice to each other and treat one another with respect or $#!+ will go down hill and your ass might be next.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5879 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 8:12 pm
    huh123-"I support the protest"

    They plan on having one in my home town this weekend. They plan on gathering in the street with their smartphone, their laptop and their Starbucks Caffè Vanilla Frappuccino Lights and complain about how `unfair` capitalism is and how `evil` consumerism is. Then they`ll head back to college and call mommy and daddy for more money that they earned at their capitalistic jobs.

    I plan on driving past them and making fun of them.

    SilverThread-" that we have to be nice to each other "

    No, we don`t.

    SilverThread-"treat one another with respect"

    No law says we have to do that.
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    Wowummwow Male 18-29
    265 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    We are in an economy "where even people with master degrees and doctorates cannot find work, where highly skilled workers are out of business because of the economy."

    These people who went to graduate school, who were worked hard to be in a stable position in life, are being let go from jobs they have been at for 20+ years. Jobs which depended on federal contracts which have been pulled and canceled in recent years because the government had to shift money to banks that are "too big to fail" instead.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3348 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 8:25 pm
    "He just needs to quit blaming others. I`m sure he didn`t blame `The Rich` when he had a successful business, why is it their fault when it fails?"

    Because he did everything right. He followed the same formula of hard work and determination that defines the "American dream", and he still lost it.....twice. He is one of millions with the same story. Doesn`t that tell you the system`s broken and corrupt?
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    Liquidglass Male 18-29
    1111 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 9:04 pm
    ""He just needs to quit blaming others. I`m sure he didn`t blame `The Rich` when he had a successful business, why is it their fault when it fails?"

    Because he did everything right. He followed the same formula of hard work and determination that defines the "American dream", and he still lost it.....twice. He is one of millions with the same story. Doesn`t that tell you the system`s broken and corrupt?"


    So because he did everything "right" which is arguable since he was supposedly successful twice for long periods of time without accumulating some sort of wealth. Then he gets to play the victim when it turns out he didn`t prepare the 2nd time around even though he had a CLEAR warning the first time.

    Sounds like a wanna-be victim to me. He wants to blame someone else for all his problems. In fact he even blames the economy for losing his wife....seriously?

    And if you agree with him, you like to play the v
  76. Profile photo of Liquidglass
    Liquidglass Male 18-29
    1111 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    cont...

    And if you agree with him, you like playing the victim too.
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    Liquidglass Male 18-29
    1111 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    cont...

    And if you agree with him, you like playing the victim too.
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    Liquidglass Male 18-29
    1111 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    cont...

    And if you agree with him, you like playing the victim too.
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    Bealzebubble Male 18-29
    352 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    I guess his point is that if he didn`t get a bailout why should banks?
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
    2737 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 10:39 pm
    I used to be a aviation mechanic in Florida.Back in Dec.2007, myself and over 700 other employees got laid off.I couldn`t find any work,until I moved to upstate New York and got a job as a part-time custodian for a local school in early March 2009.Between that time, I had to go on welfare, because my unemployment wasn`t cutting it. I went from $500+ a week to $180 a week.Still had to be on welfare so my kid and I could eat.I just lost my job as a custodian last week, because the small business I work for downsized to make more money.Meanwhile, my ex-fellow employees, are working harder and without any raises or benefits, or chances to advance at the company.Sucks to be me,right? I think it sucks more for the hard working people whos taxes pay my bills. I`d rather be working, than sitting on my ass, looking at the rather bleak classifieds that show hardly any job openings.I know how the dude in the photo feels.Say what you will,but there is no American dream.
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    seetherage Male 18-29
    85 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    Like someone said, the `American Dream` is about not stopping you from succeeding, not promising that you will succeed if you do technical school. I know an aviation mechanic that used to work back in the 90`s. After he got laid off he went back to college, got his engineering degree and now works for GE. Sure he wishes he was making more money, because his undergrad doesnt guarantee him a `master` engineer position, but if he Really really wanted to, no one is stopping him from going back to college... you know, besides having a family to support. But he chose to have sex, get married and have a kid, the government didnt force him to do it. The opportunity is there if you plan for it. America isn`t a Genie in a bottle ready to grant you wishes, you have to scrub that mofo hard!!! But if you do, you have a chance of getting what you want.
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    pergas Male 18-29
    27 posts
    October 5, 2011 at 11:43 pm
    America isn`t a genie, that is, unless you`re a bank about to collapse and wish for money.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 1:06 am
    I was making $500 a week working for a home remodeling contractor, had a great apartment, eating out nearly every night, paid off my furniture, had just bought a brand new computer, nearly 400 dvd movies and every Friday went out to see a new movie. 2004 the apartment building I was living in burned down to the ground, while I was at work, lost everything I had except the clothes on my back and my car, but I still had my job and my employer even gifted me money to get back on my feet. ... Going to shorten the story here a bit ... Eventually the economy started to crash, the stress was getting to my boss and he nearly died from a heart condition, he had heart surgery, was in a coma for 3 weeks, he lost his voice and couldn`t effectively sell jobs anymore, the business fell apart, while moving furniture out of his old office I hurt my back, screwed up my left knee severely, and it broke my wrist.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 1:16 am
    Boss didn`t have workmen`s comp, I had insurance but it ran out, surgery on my knee and back has helped but I`ve been left permanently disabled.

    Even after all this misfortune, I don`t blame my boss or the health care system. I don`t blame the banks because I was wise enough to save up my money and pay cash for nearly everything I bought, didn`t get into credit card debt, and didn`t get in over my head in a mortgage or car payments that I couldn`t afford.

    In other words, live within your means and don`t buy poo you really don`t need, save your money for the stuff you want to buy, and quit bitchin` about how rough you have it, it could be a hell of a lot worse, you could be disabled for life and have to live on $160 a week like me.
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    Biship Male 18-29
    10 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 1:17 am
    This attitude is surfacing a lot lately.
    But one has to point out;

    The global population has been growing rapidly for a long time. Housing has been explosive. Not houses. Housing. There are more apartments than houses, and it will only continue to lean that direction. A "home builder & designer" makes me think he built houses. And not only did he make that his business, he did it twice. I must say...

    Perhaps you made choices in your life that were wrong for the goal you had in mind. It IS a possibility.

    I`m in a business that is quite probably going to fail, or be completely outsourced, but I`m not going to delude myself. I might ( gasp ) have to work hard my whole life, and then die. And I don`t mean work hard until 62. I mean work hard until I die.

    In fact that happens to be my goal. I want to work hard, my ENTIRE life.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 1:28 am
    tl;dr
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    sourkraut Male 40-49
    357 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 1:35 am
    I don`t mean to tread on the earnest debate that`s in full swing here at the moment, but as someone who has worked for more than twenty years in the building industry I find terms `honest` and `builder` mutually exclusive...
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    chillimac Male 18-29
    438 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 1:44 am
    "Clearly this guy isn`t very good at what he does/did.

    Perhaps next time he will save some money up? or maybe he will know when to let go of a failing business, or perhaps not and he will be remembered as an idiot.

    ...Idiot."

    the man is a very small cog in a very large machine. in a time when alot of people are losing there homes not many are building new ones right? so its pretty much the worst situation possible to be in his line of work. so stop kicking a guy when hes down.

    ...idiot.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5879 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 6:20 am
    jtrebowski-"Because he did everything right."

    Um, no. He did not do `everything right`.

    jtrebowski-"He followed the same formula of hard work and determination that defines the "American dream", and he still lost it."

    Again, the American Dream does not gurantee success. It gurantees the OPPORTUNITY of success. He obviously didn`t prepare for the first setback. And got into a bag mortgage in the second (which he was not forced to do).

    jtrebowski-"He is one of millions with the same story."

    And there are millions with other stories. There are millions who have been successful. There are millions that never had his success. ALL had the OPPORTUNITY.

    jtrebowski-"Doesn`t that tell you the system`s broken and corrupt?"

    Nope, millions that are enjoying generations on welfare tells me the system is broken and corrupt. But it`s not the same system you`re referring to.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    5879 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 6:28 am
    chillimac-" its pretty much the worst situation possible to be in his line of work. so stop kicking a guy when hes down."

    When people aren`t building homes it`s a bad time to be a construction worker. That has ALWAYS been the case. It`s not something that just recently happened.

    That`s like feeling sorry for a guy who wants to be a farrier or a cooper. Not much of a demand for either of those any more. Should we blame `Da Rich` or `Da Banks` for that? Or would you want to tear down Mr. Ford`s first plant in order to protect the farrier`s job?

    Intelligent people in the construction business usually have another source of income. (Hell, intelligent people in ANY industry usually have another source of income.)

    I`ve changed career types twice in my life to something more lucrative. And still work on the side.

    And it`s ALWAYS a bad time to sign a mortgage with crappy terms.
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    tobyvictory Male 70 & Over
    407 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 10:08 am
    George H.W. Bush was vice pres and president during the S&L scandal and his punk ass kid, G.W., was pres during this even worse banking crash. Coincidence?
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    dang007 Male 30-39
    596 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    >>>George H.W. Bush was vice pres<<< blah blah blah

    Dodd was in the senate since 1980 and was Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee until he announced his retirement.

    Frank was in the house during both bank related economic melt downs and I believe was one the house Financial Services Committee.

    Coincidence?
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    Truth is, saving the banks IS important, because not bailing them out is exactly what lead to the Great Depression. There can simply be no economy without functioning banks. Of course, they do get severely out of control and reckless, but we`re still dependent on them.
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    Atrayu4u Female 18-29
    1478 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 9:19 pm
    SarahofBorg: (mostly because yours was the first comment I read) I agree with you, except on saving banks. Banks are businesses, and some businesses fail. There are other banks to choose from, and many of them are not as greedy and out of control as the ones that fail.
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    kcpd2050 Male 40-49
    330 posts
    October 6, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    Why don`t you cry about it.
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    magerune Male 18-29
    80 posts
    October 7, 2011 at 12:26 am
    Banks should be regulated so they don`t close. Up here in Canada know how many banks we lost? 0 We didn`t lose ANY banks because our government keeps them in check, thank god for liberal politics.

    If Harper had his way before the recession our banks would have been as free to loan and go bankrupt as American banks.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    October 7, 2011 at 5:32 am
    SarahofBorg: The banks failing wouldn`t have been a disaster, The FDIC and the Federal Reserve step in and auction off failed banks, they insure customers deposits and they`ve quite practiced at it. Many smaller banks did not get bailed out, failed, and have been auctioned since the housing crash.

    The banks that were supposedly "Too big to fail" was a load of crap, they should`ve failed and been auctioned, our country would be much better off and the greedy executives that got rich off their loan fraud wouldn`t have been rewarded with millions of dollars in bonuses.

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