This Has Something To Do With Occupy Wall St [Pic]

Submitted by: Kim... 5 years ago in

Just a guess, but it"s occurrences like these that helped make the Occupy Wall Street rallies happen.
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Male 57
15 years of free food, air condition and health care...probably the only man who deserves that in the prison
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Male 1,136
I remember seeing this a few months ago
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Male 65
i am ashamed of this country
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Male 321
repost
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Male 303
Thats phucked up. This applies to politicians as well.
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Female 127
Prison is damn nice compared to homelessness. Also, it`s not so much about the money as it is that he threatened someone to get his way. Violence is always punished more harshly. He was charged with 1st degree robbery, which means he had a deadly weapon.
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Male 60
gave the poor guy a home for the next 15 years?
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Female 64
unbelievable that crap like this actually happens.
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Male 119
Well, he`s poor AND black - so the judge did what judges normally do to people who meet those requirements: Make `em bend over and take one deep.
Just sayin`
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Male 35
I first thought this was totally wrong.. then the more I thought about it, I had to wonder about whether the judge was not just doing the guy a favor. Basically giving the "homeless" man a "home" for 15 years. Many homeless people (in my area at least) will refuse the help of shelters and such, and often try to commit crimes as an "indirect" way of getting a roof over their head for a little while without having to admit that they need help. I could be way off here, but based on the details of the article (if it`s even real), I`d say that this might be what happened.
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Female 20
That is just wrong.
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Male 4,099
(ran out of room) ...which party and why.

http://www.philanthropy .iupui.edu/research /giving_fundraising_ research.aspx#workplacegiving

"So, any more good stories you can google about our corrupt politicians?"

Yea, of coarse, it`s the internet.

http://dutchconcerns.blogspot .com/2007/08/dutch-corruption.html

http://www.newspostindia. com/2010-11-18-violence-scandals- allegations-force-dutch- mp-james-sharpe-to-resign

and lets not forget our countries were both implicated in the Lockheed bribery scandals.
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Male 4,099
@BlackHaze- "Surely you can differ between a government and a mere corporation?"

Yes, sure, but I`m missing your point here.

"You could bribe someone with 2000 dollars, and it ain`t too hard either."

Not when the average campaign budget runs in to the hundreds of millions of dollars. Obama has collected $656,357,572 from only Individual contributions. Bush $95 million total, Gore $75 million total. If one tried to buy a politician with $2000, they`d laugh and smoke the money just to be cute.
"wouldn`t you agree that not allowing them to take money from third parties with agendas would take away any suspicion of corruption."

Not really, just the opposite, our government has always functioned like this and it allows the government and media to not only track the funding but show who the market place is voting for. Despite that there funding is practically meaningless, people are able to evaluate who`s a sugardaddy for
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Male 25,417
Thats sad... but he will at least be fed and sheltered now
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Female 158
omg thats terribe i hate america
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Male 231
peak
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Male 721
the amount has nothing to do with it. its how its happened.
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Male 299
I agree with giving the homeless guy 15 years. He robbed a BANK with an implied GUN. That is serious poo.

As for the CEO, I don`t know the full back story, but if I had to guess, I`d say he either did something new in the corporate world, so they probably didn`t have much to convict him on. That and If you steal 3 billion dollars you can get one hell of a lawyer
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Male 573
Give the CEO 15 years, and give that robber 3 years. Problem solved.
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Male 639
It`s because with $3 billion you can afford a damn good lawyer. God bless the US legal system.
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Male 525
Wait, I thought he just was a desperate pickpocket who snatech $100 when no one was looking. I now realize that he committed armed robbery with an implied weapon.

Armed robbery should put him away for a long time, and rightfully so.
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Male 677
Paul Allen?!

HEY PAUL!

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Male 194
@richanddead
Surely you can differ between a government and a mere corporation? (Granted, they ARE cooperating a bit too much to my liking, but that aside).

You could bribe someone with 2000 dollars, and it ain`t too hard either. It`s all about getting the person to like you, and he`ll be more inclined to follow your proposals come next vote.

Even if 2000 dollars wouldn`t be enough to bribe someone, wouldn`t you agree that not allowing them to take money from third parties with agendas would take away any suspicion of corruption.

I`m not too sure what you`re getting at mentioning Bert Koenders. Sure he`s an incompetent arse who keeps pouring money in the bottomless pit called third world countries, but corrupt? If you`d kept up with the entire story, you`d have seen the drato was incompetent, not corrupt.

So, any more good stories you can google about our corrupt politicians?
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Male 381
Thank god Wall Street lobbyists have their dollar bills floating around the US government. Otherwise, how could they steal enough money from citizens to keep our failing government afloat?
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Male 4,099
@BlackHaze- ""Europe" is not a country - I wish the US school system would get on par with the rest of the world - so there really ain`t an answer to that."

Sorry I wasn`t specific, but the location only says Europe, so yea there is. Nice personal attack too, did your schools tell you to reason like that? Oh also it getting hard to tell since you formed an economic and political confederacy called the EU, just to compete with the American dollar, just saying.

"They can actually receive money from lobbyists? That sounds like bribery and corruption to me. Politicians here get a fixed salary, and that`s all."

Yea $2,000, your gonna buy someone with that, sure.

"That sounds like bribery and corruption to me."

You would know, how`s Koenders and B.K.B. treating ya. Yea, you solved all the problems.
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Male 4,099
@jtrebowski- nope addressed that too if you read father in.

i said "Most of their money comes from PAC`s or companies that they are privately invested in. Even then caps are in place, and the majority of their money can only go into non-supportive commercials that bash opponents."

And PAC`s are allocated by party officials, and they in no way can go into anyone`s pockets only toward ads that are for the party. They can`t even say vote for so and so, only don`t vote for so and so, or join our party. Plus they have to relese the info on where the money went, there is nothing behind closed doors.
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Male 194
Here being in the Netherlands.
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Male 194
@richanddead
"Europe" is not a country - I wish the US school system would get on par with the rest of the world - so there really ain`t an answer to that. Different rules for the different COUNTRIES on the CONTINENT Europe.

Also, caps on money they can receive from lobbyists? They can actually receive money from lobbyists? That sounds like bribery and corruption to me. Politicians here get a fixed salary, and that`s all.
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Male 3,369
"I don`t how it is in Europe but here in America politicians have caps on the amount of money a politician can take from companies/lobbyists "

You forgot about PAC`s
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Male 194
@randomxnp
I see common sense :o Surely you can`t have been long on this site!
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Male 1,293
Before I comment, just to get on the record I think both sentences are wrong, one far too lenient one far too stiff.

However whoever made this superposition, and whoever posted it here are idiots. The sentences have nothing to do with the amount taken - they relate to the crime itself. Robbery is a crime of violence. Fraud is a non-violent, in fact a hidden, crime. The numbers are often considered of little relevance.
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Male 4,099
@CreamK- Secondly, our government does not support nor guarantee equal outcomes, merely equal opportunities and chance of success.

And I`m not familiar with any CEO or politician who after being convicted of a crime was celebrated.

So yea if you have a problem protest the judicial review system, not Wall Street.
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Male 4,099
@CreamK- I don`t how it is in Europe but here in America politicians have caps on the amount of money a politician can take from companies/lobbyists . Most of their money comes from PAC`s or companies that they are privately invested in. Even then caps are in place, and the majority of their money can only go into non-supportive commercials that bash opponents.
There are no laws that support criminal enterprise in any way, our judicial system prevents that, a whole 1/3 of our government is organised just for that purpose. Not to mention we have too many personal injury lawyers who would make a killing off that.
If they don`t go to jail, then it falls under the realm of the judge or jury, not any politician. Secondly even if a person is homeless or has no money under the sixth Amendment they are still afforded top legal representation at no cost. All defense attornies must volunteer their time.
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Male 812
Problem, citizens?
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Male 3,369
SCfan: "Fail. It has nothing to do with OWS and everything to do with our slanted judicial system."

(from the description kim included)
but it`s occurrences like these that helped make the Occupy Wall Street rallies happen.
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Male 1,421
@richanddead: You honestly can`t tell how these things link? Could it be that Wall Street lobbyists buys politicians to make new laws that favors the financial crime and gets most of those high paid criminals free of ANY kind of repercussions of their actions. They don`t go to jail, they get bonuses and golden handshakes and move effortlesly to new company where they are applauded for their actions.

Homeless people really can`t defend themselves at that level as they DON`T HAVE THE MONEY DO SO! That is what the society and the goverment are there for so that every man are treated equal, RIGHT?
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Male 201
@chance13

No, it was a white male in his 60s who robbed a bank for a dollar and surrendered him self right away.
You should check your sources before you put down a news.
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Female 877
sad, sad news make me cry
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Male 219
This is shopped. I`ve also seen this story saying that the man has cancer and no insurance...so he robbed the bank of 1$ to get arrested and go to prison so he could have state-funded insurance. Source folks...source.
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Male 141
He robbed a bank whilst pretending to have a gun - you get 15 years in prison for it - it`s certainly not unfair.
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Male 165
Three strikes, maybe?
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Male 4,099
I agree that the guy got a stiff sentence and the CEO got off easy, but how is this Wall Streets fault, it`s the judges. If anything people should protest for better judicial review, not protesting against Wall Street. Can someone explain how these two things fit together?
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Male 1,226
Seems unfair at first, but you should realise there is a huge difference between a financial crime such as fraud and a violent crime. If he hadn`t used a gun (at least, pretended to) his punishment wouldn`t be this severe.
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Female 437
He`s probably quite happy to be in prison really, 3 meals a day, a roof over his head, it`s better than where he was
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Male 116
This crime and punishment Justice thing is a crapshot, very near to random results. Ever spent time in a courtroom? This is an everyday occurence worldwide. At least in this case they actually sentanced they guy who did the `crime` and not some random bystander, and who knows, its even possible the homeless guy was not beat to a pulp by the police upon his surrender. Thats because it happned in a civilized advanced country. Thats about as good as its gets.
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Male 69
I`m not one to complain about reposts, but this has been posted at least 3 times here already.. :/
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Male 15,187
I like Gerry`s suggestion.
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Male 171
Let`s just kill the corrupt politicians, and the people corrupting them. Problem solved, permanently.
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Male 1,078
wooow.
that sucks.
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Male 2,841
Free room and board for the next 15 years? You all should be glad for the worthless parasite.
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Male 4,902
Yeah that sucks, but I would think robbing a bank would carry a harsher sentence regardless the amount stolen.
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Male 638
The guy robbed a bank, last time I checked it was a no no.
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Male 39,619

Give the homeless guy 15 years house arrest. But put him in the ex-CEO`s house! :D
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Female 144
They probably where just giving him a home. It maybe what he wanted. Lots of homeless commit crimes just to be sent to jail.
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Male 541
At least he has a place to stay for the next 15 years. Reminds me of that one article of the guy who needed medical care really bad but couldn`t afford it, so he robbed a bank for like $1 or something like that just to go to prison for free treatment.
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Male 4,793
Armed robbery vs. any white collar crime. Whether there was a gun or not, regardless of the amount, the armed robbery will always get a higher sentence. So IF you decide to steal money, go for embezzlement. Much higher reward with much lower risk.
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Male 411
theft of $100.... but cost John Q Taxpayer over $100,000 for the duration of his sentence...
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Male 453
Fifteen years is excessive. I find the attitudes of the preceding commenters astonishing. FIFTEEN YEARS in Angola no less, cruel beyond words.
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Male 1,920
Robbing a bank is a Federal crime with mandatory minimum sentences. Unfortunately since he committed the crime, and admitted to it, the judge`s hands were probably tied. Also just because he was sentenced to 15 years, he probably won`t serve the full sentence.

Most likely fraud carries a lesser sentence because it usually is not as serious a crime as bank robbery would be.
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Male 1,595
Yeah, I see the 15 years as a good thing for him.

He was homeless and hungry, now he has a place to be and food to eat.

Although doing time just to get out of starving to death is taking advantage of the system, which I`m against, I still wish the guy the best.
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Male 92
Maybe the judge is doing the homeless man a favor. Maybe now, he can have a bed to sleep on and some food every day.
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Male 18
@M Archer:
What attorneys? sounds to me like Mr. Brown waived his right to counsel, I could be wrong but it appears that way. I completely disagree with the sentence Mr. Brown was given considering these things.
- The weapon was implied and therefore fictional
- The amount of money was minuscule
- Mr Brown turned himself in WITHOUT wasting tax dollars on an investigation.
the judge presiding over that case needs to rethink some things as the justice that was served was not proportionate to the crime committed. Hell even manslaughter only gets you around 5 served years in prison.
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Male 60
@mcmals regardless of whether or not he wanted to go to jail, a 40 month sentence for multi-billion dollar fraud is inexcusable.
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Male 525
"You are a thief!"

"I stole $100!"

"You robbed a bank!"

"I broke a window pane! My sister`s child was close to death, and we were starving!"

"You will starve again unless you learn the meaning of the law...five years for what you did! The rest because you tried to run!"

I`m on team Javert, personally. Robbing is wrong, but this was really harsh. I`m sure his attorneys will appeal the case.
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Female 146
maybe the guy wanted to go to jail? I mean you hear about people who are down and out trying to get into jail just because it means a bed and 3 meals a day
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Male 2,422
Check how often rich people get the death penalty for the same crimes. Go ahead.
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Male 7,378
Yeah it`s a repost but it`s timely so I`ll leave it.
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Male 39,619

@ razlem. Google it. there are several news sources giving the same basic facts. 15 years.
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Male 195
Repost.
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Male 5,194
You KNOW Paul Allen didn`t turn himself in, feel "remorseful", plead guilty, surrender without a protracted legal battle, or even give a flying`.
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Male 138
hahahahaha... America at its best. If it was here in Portugal he would be a hero for what he did the next day, would have been forgiven and would even be helped! Yes, I know there are some countries that saw off a hand for this, but those guys are animals, like America is becoming.
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Male 214
ahh sneaky... homeless man "steals" money to go to jail for a free room and food :P
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Male 533
I don`t believe the bottom one. Is there a source?
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Male 266
Repost, and ugly. 15 years is too much and 40 months too little.
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Male 3,310
Armed robbery. Why aren`t fake guns given a free pass? It befuddles the brain.
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Male 210
Repost, but new context at least...kinda.
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Male 60
People reading this naturally would be upset because the punishment should be retribution for damages (e.g. justice). The $3billion fraud certainly did more damage to society than a guy who stole $100, even at fake gun-point. Therefore, the "Greedy" guy should have received the harsher sentence than the "violent" guy. Stealing with words, stealing with fake gun... amount of theft should be considered.
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Male 356
Someone has said it before, I will repeat it: One is a white rich man, one is a poor black man. Thus the difference in punishment.
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Female 5
Roy Brown is the 99%
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Male 3,842
The first one used words to deceive people, the second one threatened them with physical violence. Thus the disparity in the sentence. It has nothing to do with the amount of theft and everything to do with the methods used.
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Male 72
So a man who is greedy gets 3 years and a man who commits a violent robbery (hand under jacket usually indicates weapon) gets 15 years. I don`t see the issue here. Plus, the homeless man now has a roof over his head and 3 meals a day.
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Male 1,440
Im almost positive I`ve seen this on Iambored before.
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Male 128
Good job America
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Male 2,737
repost
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Male 1,471
Insane. /end of statement
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Male 303
fraud is theft by deception rather than theft by stealth. So what the US justice system is saying is that it is a far lesser crime to con money out of people than to sneakily take it.
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Male 357
xtkm1x im sure that the meaning here is that THIS type of behavior is the reason OWS is occurring...just spitballing
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Male 18
they happened three years apart...it`s not like they are concurrent rulings. It`s still pooty that a thief of that magnitude didn`t get the chair(Allen, not Brown)
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Male 5,094
tedgp: On the other hand, which man caused the most harm?
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Male 432
This story is too old to be part of Occupy Wall Street. It still really sucks, though.
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Male 2,034
Um, there are different penalties for different crimes? Did that occur to anyone?
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Female 956
15 years...that`s a long time. :(
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Male 688
That man was a slave to his conscience and it cost him.
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Male 10,338
One of these things is not like the other. One of these things is, not the same.
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Male 2,085
Fail. It has nothing to do with OWS and everything to do with our slanted judicial system.
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Male 737
I hate to say it, but he just improved his standard of living about 500%.
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Male 3,285
Besides, he got the 15 years for armed robbery. Whether he had a weapon or not. THATS what causes the difference in sentencing. It has little to nothing to do with how much money was gained.
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Male 3,285
Repost multiple times and old as the interwebs.
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Female 539
Link: This Has Something To Do With Occupy Wall St [Pic] [Rate Link] - Just a guess, but it`s occurrences like these that helped make the Occupy Wall Street rallies happen.
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