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    maketreks Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 11:57 am
    Link: The Next President Of America Is... Homeless? - This homeless man makes more sense than most politicians, `Bring back the American jobs and quit going to wars.`
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 26, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    Hes already been through the system and failed...
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    number43 Male 70 & Over
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    October 26, 2011 at 12:20 pm
    American workers demand minimum wage, health care, scheduled lunch and smoke breaks... product gets made in Korea... you can`t explain that.
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    cubzrulz23 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    damn good dude hope things get better for him
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    Arcval Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    @number43: Thats what import tariffs used to be for.
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    thelonious Male 40-49
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    October 26, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    Every person in America and around the world is one paycheck from where he`s at? Damn, I must be the 1% and didn`t know it.
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    nls151 Male 30-39
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    October 26, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    And which candidate is currently saying all of this stuff? RON PAUL!!! :-)
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    I feel sorry for the guy, but he`s seeing it from his perspective, not the companies that provide the jobs.

    If companies keep their factories in America, their costs will be higher than the companies that outsource labour. Therefore, their products will be a higher price and people won`t buy them. A year or so down the line, the company will go bust and everyone loses their jobs anyway.

    I agree that more could be done to prevent homelessness and increase jobs, but it just doesn`t work that way...
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    "If companies keep their factories in America, their costs will be higher than the companies that outsource labour. Therefore, their products will be a higher price and people won`t buy them. "
    Indeed, that is true.
    Companies outsource to where labor is cheaper, thats a given. Question is, WHY is labor so much cheaper elsewhere?
    Cose in other places, ppl will work for less. How? Why not americans/europeans? Cose stuff costs less there. There, they can survive on 60 cents per day, in developped countries, that would be impossible.
    And now we start to see the root of the problem.
    High cost of living in developped countries. Mostly because housing is incredibly expensive, whereas in "poorer" countries, ppl actually own houses even if they are pooty and entire families live in one. Food is cheaper too, because they can get it directly from the guy who grows it, and it doesnt have to travel across the world twice, and pass through 10 companies han
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    Zghost Male 13-17
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    October 26, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    "I feel sorry for the guy, but he`s seeing it from his perspective, not the companies that provide the jobs.

    If companies keep their factories in America, their costs will be higher than the companies that outsource labour. Therefore, their products will be a higher price and people won`t buy them. A year or so down the line, the company will go bust and everyone loses their jobs anyway.

    I agree that more could be done to prevent homelessness and increase jobs, but it just doesn`t work that way..."

    Are you implying we keep letting companies outsource to other nations? You do realize by doing that, they work around certain taxes and expenses. And most of the money saved from less labor is just food for greed. If it was able to be done beforehand, if we once had an economy that was profitable without shipping companies overseas, I agree with him.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    @Zghost
    I`m not implying anything, I`m telling you directly... Yes American and British companies regularly outsource whole departments to India, Asia and other regions for large cost savings. It is not food for greed, it gives them a significant competitive advantage, or at least allows them to stay buoyant in a competitive market.

    And yes I am aware that certain taxes and expenses are attributed to outsourcing overseas. However, these costs are nothing compared to the savings that are made.

    You were able to survive without companies buying in overseas labour because it wasn`t an option. Globalisation has allowed companies to do this through the use of technology. Since then, nearly everyone has been doing it and making massive cost savings as a result.

    I`m sorry, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about...
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    Who each take a cut to make some profit along the way.


    Housing is the biggest problem these days. I have to pay nearly 1000 euros per month on rent to live in the city, and for here, thats considered cheap. My appartment is still a crappy one though, in which it would be impossible to raise a family.
    1k per month. in 50 years at that rate, Ill have paid 600 000 euros on rent. And still own nothing at all.

    Before, ppl used to actually own their houses, at least the majority did. Families would live together in there. It was incredibly cheap overall.
    Then ppl started moving out. Everyone wants an appartment of their own, not shared with parents or grandparents. But still, there was some thought about the future. Ppl would build a house, and work to pay it back their whole life, so their kids would have something.

    But now? With banks failing, job instability, and so on, you cant even do that anymore.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    @morimacil123 - yes you are right, but that`s a whole other problem that isn`t going to be resolved anytime soon. Fact of the matter is, companies will outsource if it is cheaper. Unless the cost of living and wages are dramatically reduced, businesses will not employ labour in America.
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    So whats the endresult?
    Well we work our whole life, but spend most of the money we earn on renting an appartment, and possibly paying off debt. We work a ton but own nothing in the end.
    But now capitalism sets in.
    Companies can either pay ppl in underdevelopped countries enough for them to survive, and have their product built there, or they can pay here, for us to survive, and to pay the bankers, and to pay the appartment owners, and with that much bigger amount of money, their product gets built.

    Now ofc they outsource. Its inevitable. Either the way we live here changes, and jobs can exist here, or it stays as it is now, jobs cant exist here, and it collapses.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    Been there twice, with kids in tow.Not a very good place to be.And I just got laid off again.There`s not jobs around here, so I`m guessing it`s only a matter of time,again.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    He`s clearly on something which discredits him even more than being homeless.

    You want to put a homeless man in office? So you`re children can say, "I wanna be homeless just like our president was!"

    Last I checked there were only 2-3 million jobs that we outsourced, given an unemployment population of about 15 million people, it doesn`t do all too much especially when you take into account that half of those jobs wouldn`t exist if they had to may the US minimum wage.

    Raising minimum wage doesn`t help, it shuts out small businesses and makes all businesses raise prices to compensate.

    Stop going to wars, you mean stop helping people? Allow human rights violations to occur, innocents to be murdered for no reason at all? Allow nations to advance militarily and wage war on us or our allies? You shut yourself off from the outside world and you`re going to get a whole lot of nowhere and fast!
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    "yes you are right, but that`s a whole other problem that isn`t going to be resolved anytime soon. Fact of the matter is, companies will outsource if it is cheaper. Unless the cost of living and wages are dramatically reduced, businesses will not employ labour in America."

    aye, the cost of living needs to be reduced. And it will be, one way or the other, very soon.
    Either ppl will change the way they live, governement will help, and so on (I doubt it), or quite simply all the jobs will keep on getting exported, meaning more ppl without jobs who cant afford stuff, which leads to others losing their jobs too because noone can afford paying them since noone has a job, and so on and so on.

    And then either the clandlords will lower rent, because noone has any money, or they wont. If they dont, poo will hit the fan, because angry ppl will take stuff by force.

    Its inevitable.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    15 million unemployed
    - 8 million employed illegal immigrants
    - 3 million outsourced jobs
    - 3 million unfilled jobs currently available

    = 1 million unemployed

    How about the number of people working more than one job just to pay for the basics: Cars, Gas, Electricity, Housing.

    There are certain areas that should be completely regulated as not-for-profit areas. Things that are in such high demand and usage that it seriously hurts the amount of money that people can keep or save.

    Firstly no one ever considers the whole picture and realizes the whole system could use a complete rework, everyone looks for small changed to not disrupt anything.

    Secondly, putting a homeless man in office wouldn`t do a thing as 1 office even the president can`t do dick without the support of the majority in the house and the senate. Which is why all these visions and promises they make never happen, because they can`t!
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    FoSchizle Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 3:06 pm
    Heh. I feel sorry for him, but his "solution" is just about everything that you should NOT do to an economy.

    Outsourcing creates structural unemployment, yes, but it usually has a net GAIN of jobs when all is said and done, and usually higher paying jobs.

    Raising minimum wage, as said below, doesn`t do jack. It raises costs for everyone and increases unemployment as businesses have to pay more, they won`t hire people and they may even lay people off.

    Gas sucks, yeah, so let us drill our own freaking lands. Stupid animal lovers worrying so much about messing up migration patterns. It can be worked around.

    I agree about the wars... there isn`t a hope in hell at significant change in the middle east (See Karzai`s statement about standing with Pakistan if they started a war with us. Just get out of there already)
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    October 26, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    15 square blocks
    - 8 round holes
    - 3 triangular holes
    - 3 "S" shaped holes

    = 1 left over block.

    Ahh to live in simple times, like Klamz.
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    ilovesean23 Female 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 4:23 pm
    http://www.youtube.com/
    watch?v=OZLyUK0t0vQ
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    AEimiller Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 5:17 pm
    Theres always gonna be poor people thats partly how democracy and free-enterprise works. I believe the government looks very deep into making the best decisions even though a majority of the public seems to think these decisions are stupid. If we through some homeless guy into office and he did all the things that the public seems to want, then the united states would cease be the great country that it is.
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    Uncommonsens Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 6:47 pm
    He wants to cut the deficit but increase government spending? No wonder why he`s homeless
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    Authentic187 Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 9:49 pm
    Everytime I read the comments in a post like this, Im astonished at the amount of people who think we`re the greatest nation and that the government is making all the right decisions.....don`t you guys see the whole we`re in!!!! I mean China, a COMMUNIST country, pretty much owns america because we`re so in debt....yeah we still a great nation.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 10:38 pm
    @Authentic187
    Go read what communism really is, The People`s Republic of China is a single party republic. Guess what else is a republic.
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    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
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    October 26, 2011 at 10:40 pm
    "You want to put a homeless man in office? So you`re children can say, "I wanna be homeless just like our president was!""

    At what point were kids saying "I wanna be retarded just like our president was!" during the bush administration?
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 12:19 am
    You wanna know the REAL reason he`s homeless? It`s not the drugs or the drink, it`s because his eye is so goddamned lazy.
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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 12:38 am
    everybody can be drating president its not lazyness. But the people who choose to give you this position for their own good. But if you feel good saying poor people are lazy its your own weakness
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 12:46 am
    @crabes, I didn`t say poor people are lazy, I said his eyeball is lazy...
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 6:13 am
    You should never move somewhere till you have a job. Moving to Las Vegas with a pocket full of cash and expecting to get a job is just silly.

    I live in a tourist town, jobs are pretty much all seasonal. You work in summer and live off unemployment through winter. There`s little choice in the matter, unless we move elsewhere.

    At least the guy can admit it`s his own choice and fault.
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    Essersmith Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 7:52 am
    @Klamz
    "How about the number of people working more than one job just to pay for the basics: Cars, Gas, Electricity, Housing. "

    Really? Cars and gas? electricity, maybe, and housing last?. Really?
    Im sure you meant food and shelter.
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    TheBuzzer Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:26 am
    it really isnt about raising the minimum wage, it will just make prices of stuff go up even more.

    It is about having a lower minimum wage. this way ppl can still work for like 1 dollar an hour.


    people can survive eating stuff on a dollor menu.


    heck, people in china earns like 10 cent per hour. the thing that is screwing up people is american`s standard of living. It is to high and either people will be in the standard and better or be homeless.
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    November 1, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    @Zghost
    I`m not implying anything, I`m telling you directly... Yes American and British companies regularly outsource whole departments to India, Asia and other regions for large cost savings. It is not food for greed, it gives them a significant competitive advantage, or at least allows them to stay buoyant in a competitive market.

    And yes I am aware that certain taxes and expenses are attributed to outsourcing overseas. However, these costs are nothing compared to the savings that are made.

    You were able to survive without companies buying in overseas labour because it wasn`t an option. Globalisation has allowed companies to do this through the use of technology. Since then, nearly everyone has been doing it and making massive cost savings as a result.

    I`m sorry, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about...
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    November 1, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    I feel sorry for the guy, but he`s seeing it from his perspective, not the companies that provide the jobs.

    If companies keep their factories in America, their costs will be higher than the companies that outsource labour. Therefore, their products will be a higher price and people won`t buy them. A year or so down the line, the company will go bust and everyone loses their jobs anyway.

    I agree that more could be done to prevent homelessness and increase jobs, but it just doesn`t work that way...
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    November 1, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    @Zghost
    I`m not implying anything, I`m telling you directly... Yes American and British companies regularly outsource whole departments to India, Asia and other regions for large cost savings. It is not food for greed, it gives them a significant competitive advantage, or at least allows them to stay buoyant in a competitive market.

    And yes I am aware that certain taxes and expenses are attributed to outsourcing overseas. However, these costs are nothing compared to the savings that are made.

    You were able to survive without companies buying in overseas labour because it wasn`t an option. Globalisation has allowed companies to do this through the use of technology. Since then, nearly everyone has been doing it and making massive cost savings as a result.

    I`m sorry, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about...
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    November 1, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    I feel sorry for the guy, but he`s seeing it from his perspective, not the companies that provide the jobs.

    If companies keep their factories in America, their costs will be higher than the companies that outsource labour. Therefore, their products will be a higher price and people won`t buy them. A year or so down the line, the company will go bust and everyone loses their jobs anyway.

    I agree that more could be done to prevent homelessness and increase jobs, but it just doesn`t work that way...
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    November 1, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    @Zghost
    I`m not implying anything, I`m telling you directly... Yes American and British companies regularly outsource whole departments to India, Asia and other regions for large cost savings. It is not food for greed, it gives them a significant competitive advantage, or at least allows them to stay buoyant in a competitive market.

    And yes I am aware that certain taxes and expenses are attributed to outsourcing overseas. However, these costs are nothing compared to the savings that are made.

    You were able to survive without companies buying in overseas labour because it wasn`t an option. Globalisation has allowed companies to do this through the use of technology. Since then, nearly everyone has been doing it and making massive cost savings as a result.

    I`m sorry, but you clearly have no idea what you are talking about...
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    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    November 1, 2011 at 12:47 pm
    I feel sorry for the guy, but he`s seeing it from his perspective, not the companies that provide the jobs.

    If companies keep their factories in America, their costs will be higher than the companies that outsource labour. Therefore, their products will be a higher price and people won`t buy them. A year or so down the line, the company will go bust and everyone loses their jobs anyway.

    I agree that more could be done to prevent homelessness and increase jobs, but it just doesn`t work that way...

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