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    madest Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2011 at 7:19 am
    Link: Stephen Colbert Told You So! - Alabama`s crack down on migrants hasn`t worked out as planned.
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    swiftkeys Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:00 am
    Leviticus 20:18 "If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people."

    ROFL.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:20 am

    I was this in the news also. It`s a made up problem for media hype. It`s not as if all the crops in the state are rotting on the ground.

    And now that people with legal status know of the jobs, they will be filled. As a kid everyone had a summer job picking crops. And I like the chain-gang idea as well. Let`em earn their keep.
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    lyonartime Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:25 am
    swiftkeys wins.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:29 am
    To quote: "Illegal immigrants have fled Alabama."

    Sounds like it`s working as planned.

    And the farmers interviewed just hate that they can`t pay them less money under the table as they were with the illegals.

    I don`t see the problem here.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:37 am
    It`s like The Last of the Meheecans.

    BTW, I hope all the prisoners are US citizens or have valid work visas, or the farmers will have to join the chain gang!
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:40 am
    Same sorta problem here in Georgia.
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    RoboPatton Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:53 am
    FDR ran illegals off as one of the measures to end the great depression. He did it because they were competing with Americans for low paying jobs.

    MeGrendel and Gerry - right

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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 10:13 am
    There aren`t workers? Or there aren`t workers willing to work for the wages the farmers are offering? Lets see I seem to recall a bunch of people in New York that seem to need work...
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    Loxen Female 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 10:18 am
    If you can`t get an American to do it, try... oh... I don`t know... offering more money and allow people to pick at a less stressful pace?
    No? Better to just get immigrants back in the field, because they`ll let you screw them over? I see.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 10:25 am
    Why are they called migrant workers? They are illegal immigrants!
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    QualityJay Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 11:15 am
    Farmers are hurting for farm workers.
    Americans are hurting for jobs.
    What to do, What to do...

    Oh, Americans don`t want those jobs?
    Better go protest about there not being enough jobs (that we want to do, of course)

    Cause no one should have to do a job they dislike...
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 11:59 am
    right e o!
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    Trapper222 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    @auburnjunky A migrant worker is someone who moves from area to area as the seasons shift in order to do whatever seasonal work they can get, especially work in agriculture.

    An illegal immigrant is someone who living in this country unlawfully.

    Currently, most migrant workers are illegal immigrants, but not all.

    The terms mean two different things.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    I know, but we don`t care about Migrant workers. They are fine because they are legal.

    Calling them migrant workers is a ploy to make the people who support lawful citizenship look evil.

    I am from Alabama, and this law rocks. We have JOBS HERE and our unemployment rate is dropping daily.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    Ship those `Occupy` protesters down there to pick them, even a failed arts major can learn to pick a tomato.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7379 posts
    October 27, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    Yeah hey CJ. You can also go to Alabama and pick some veggies. Justify those government handouts you seem to enjoy so much.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 1:27 pm
    The farm jobs are almost filled. Seems Colbert was watching MSLSD again if he thinks the immigration law didn`t work.
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    Tisjokar Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    Lev 20:18
    "`If a man lies with a woman during her monthly period and has sexual relations with her, he has exposed the source of her flow, and she has also uncovered it. Both of them must be cut off from their people."

    WAT, that has nuthing to do with bread! I`m scared!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 3:01 pm
    Ship those `Occupy` protesters down there to pick them, even a failed arts major can learn to pick a tomato.

    Unfortunately, arbeit nicht befreien.

    And the farmers interviewed just hate that they can`t pay them less money under the table as they were with the illegals.

    I don`t see the problem here.

    Heard of the minimum wage? To the farmheads their employees` labor ain`t worth it.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
    506 posts
    October 27, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    I`ve yet to hear what these jobs pay, but I`m going to assume they`re taking full advantage of the farmhand exemption to minimum wage laws and trying to pay Americans less than they`d make sitting behind a register at a grocery store or working behind the counter at a fast-food resteraunt.

    If picking tomatoes pays less than unemployment insurance or easier minimum-age jobs...yeah, no poo you can`t exploit laborers to do it.

    Every American job should pay at least minimum wag. No exceptions other than family-run businesses. These physically demanding jobs that require people to work for long perios exposed to the elements should probably pay a bit more.

    We need to take advantage of tarrifs to keep imports and cheap foreign labor from killing the domestic farming industry. I`m okay with paying bit more for American grown fruits and veggies, especially if I know that my money is going to pay for decent jobs for American workers who are paying taxes.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 3:12 pm
    @Trapper222, They`re nominally different terms. The majority of "migrant workers" are coming up from Mexico to work as cheap farm labor during harvesting season and then taking the profits of their labor back home to their families in their country.

    While they don`t have the same protection and rights of American workers, and they do somewhat contribute to their community by paying rent, paying for gas, groceries and sales tax...they`re not paying income tax, their children receive education at public school, they receive health care at free clinics, and overall are taking more out of the American economy than they`re adding to it.

    I don`t think that building a wall to keep them out is the answer. But we should be treating them like citizens with similiar rights and responsiblities as everyone else. Including paying them minumum wage and make sure they pay the same taxes the rest of us have to pay.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 27, 2011 at 3:54 pm

    Cajun247 "Heard of the minimum wage?"
    Farm labor and a few others are exempt from minimum wage laws. They`re contract-labor so it`s performance pay. By the bushel or basket and works out to be much less than minimum wage.

    Not sayin` right or wrong, just sayin.
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    grindinblade Male 18-29
    234 posts
    October 27, 2011 at 4:40 pm
    Farm work and picking is very hard work, and migrant workers and willing to do it cheaply. American`s wont work for the same pay as migrant workers, translates into higher food costs in the grocery store. Expect prices to skyrocket in 2012.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    This is the best work I have seen Colbert do. Hilarious and brilliant.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 27, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    If the farmers had to pay minimum wage instead of by the bushel the cost of produce would be five times what it is today. You just won`t get the results from minimum wage. I tried working the fields as a teenager. It was horrible backbreaking work. I have the utmost respect for anyone who does this work. The vegetables rotting on the vines in Alabama are the price of prejudice.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    Well then the real issue is that Americans really don`t care about those jobs. A Jon Stewart featured a correspondent segment where a farmhead, despite a full-fledged ad campaign, got NO Americans asking for the job. Apparently this economy isn`t bad enough to pressure Americans into getting them.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    October 27, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    So, to solve the problem(HAHA), you tie the anti-immigration bill to unemployment compensation. Cut benefits- Go to work, or go broke(er).
    You say you don`t want to spend $4 for a tomato- grow yer own damn tomatoes and can them, or do without.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    October 27, 2011 at 7:10 pm
    "I`ve yet to hear what these jobs pay"

    Well the tomato picking jobs Colbert refers to, pays an average of about $18 an hour.

    You get $20 per crate filled, and a team of 4 can fill a crate in about 15-20 minutes. In an 8 hour day, that equals about $18 an hour compensating for speed fluctuation of the job.

    ...and yes. That`s what the "previous employees" were making.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 7:13 pm
    @Cajun: Bullcrap. That`s 100% propaganda. All of the lost workers here in Alabama have almost been replaced as we speak. There are estimate that our unemployment numbers could fall below 7% for the 4th quarter. It was hovering right around 9.8% before the law was passed.
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    PTPete Female 30-39
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:46 pm
    I was sent to pick fruit one summer as punishment for being one bad-ass brat. Tough, tough, tough job. Most Americans would NOT take any job that pays them less that what they can get on unemployment or public assistance. Also, most don`t offer health insurance. But if i was ever earning ZERO dollars, I`d do it again in a second.
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    sunday_scour Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 9:51 pm
    I often think, when I see stories of this nature, of what power is and why power is. How do the vocal eminations of one member of a species control hundreds of millions, to have happen what those millions (though not all, of course) say they do not want to happen? What is the actual chain of events from mouth to first steel handcuff? How does a group willingly do what it does not want to do (again not including all US citizens)? At some point people follow the law because if they don`t they will face serious opposition. In the long run, where did it go from individuals gathering only when they needed something all could agree on and couldn`t be done alone, to a gathering preventing individuals from doing something that they did not need or agree on? How does one man`s (or small group`s) word become inforcable to the death? I do not live in a country that has any connection to it citizens; effectively totalitarianism in its infancy? Or am I wrong? I do what the law says, in any event.
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    sunday_scour Male 18-29
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    October 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm
    @auburnjunky: I call your bluff. I think that your facts are wrong. Show your source. Also, I find some big assumptions implied, and misunderstandings leading to wrong conclutions.
    I won`t chicken out, if they are right I will unequivicaly (sp?) concede to the fact that I am wrong.
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    Baalthazaq Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:18 am
    Auburn:

    US Bureau of statistics:
    Alabama unemployment latest figures 9.8%.

    US Bureau of labor stats:
    9.8% latest.

    It "hovering around 9.8% before the law was passed" is accurate, but you`ve neglected to mention that it`s still there.

    I find no weight to your claims.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 4:42 am
    Baal: I said expected to. IT is an estimate. Local news here reports that the vacated jobs are being filled by previously unemployed workers.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 4:51 am
    At any rate, they were illegal, and instead of leaving the state, they should have gone through the motions to become legal/get work visas.

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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:38 am
    @auburnjunky

    I suggest you wait for time to make it`s judgement for you shout 100% propaganda.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 8:03 am
    You`re probably right. I just see it from the inside.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2011 at 7:46 am
    "Why are they called migrant workers? They are illegal immigrants!" NO, just no...they are called migrant workers because they migrate with the harvest seasons. They pick tomatoes when the tomatoes are ready, beans when the beans are ready and so forth and so on. Yes many of them are illegal immigrants, but that is NOT why they are called migrant workers.This fundamental misunderstanding of the term being discussed makes me question the validity of your claims, but you have made some very solid observations in the past so now i go to find verification.Also, if you were making a social comment and not actually defining migrant worker you can just disregard all that up there.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    Yeah I was just saying. The ones who ran from Alabama weren`t migrant workers.

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