PROTECT IP Act Breaks The Internet

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago Tech

PROTECT IP Act Breaks The Internet from Fight for the Future on Vimeo.


A bill moving through Congress that gives the government and corporations the ability to censor entire sites on the net
There are 59 comments:
Male 187
Companies need to realize, ANTI-PIRACY SOFTWARE (DRM) INCREASES THE AMOUNT OF PIRACY, because people who pirate it doesn`t have to deal with all the drm internet issues and having to stay connected, while hard paying costumers too. And DRM has never worked. All games have always been pirated on release, then crack in 1-2 days.
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Male 2,419
If you want to stop people from pirating your poo how about you make it stop being so pooty? These days you would be dumb to NOT download something before deciding to buy it.
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Male 5
Greedy f***s..
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Male 684
This is why I stopped downloading pirated media 10 years ago...When it costs people money, their likelihood of retaliation grows exponentially for every dollar they lose. I think the media industry in general has way too much money flowing through it. We have at least one billion people going hungry today, how someone can justify being paid ridiculous amounts of money to be part of a profession that was equated with prostitutes in the roman empire..."At the same time, the prostitutes themselves were considered shameful: most were either slaves or former slaves, or if free by birth relegated to the infames, people utterly lacking in social standing and deprived of most protections accorded to citizens under Roman law, a status they shared with actors and gladiators, all of whom, however, exerted sexual allure.[4]"
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Male 2,229
Brought to you by your Corporate CONTROLLED government. The United States is already compromised, IT IS corrupt! It has been for YEARS, Why the hell did the United States go to Iraq; MONEY; not oil, not "democracy" (if one calls torture and death squads and Occupation of another country Democracy). Strait up GREED, the biggest highest in American history happen couple years ago. Wall St walk away with BILLIONS of taxpayer (American citizens) money.

This is just another action to subjugate and control the American people, and the American people are going to let them; screw you again.
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Male 12,365
Say, for example, there is some porno anime that is legal in Japan but illegal in the USA. A Japanese porn site carries adverts from another site that has some of that anime on it. Why not? It`s legal in Japan, where the site is based. You visit the first site, the one that is entirely legal in the USA. You have never been to the other site. But now you have some illegal (in the USA) material from it on your PC.
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Male 12,365
Another possibility I should have put into my last post:

It`s very rare nowadays to actually visit only one site at a time. For example, in this session I have visited only IAB and Youtube (to see comments on one video embedded here). Purely from visiting those two sites only, 18 sites have tried to run a total of 30 scripts on my PC. Note that`s only counting sites that have tried to run scripts - it does not count sites linked more passively to the two sites I`ve visited. That is normal.

So it`s entirely possible to get illegal material fed to you from a site you`ve never even been to. All it takes is for one of the dozens of sites feeding to the sites you actually visit to be compromised or for something to be legal in one jurisdiction but not another.
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Male 381
@ Batmanners: We`re freer than most, so let`s leave it at that? That`s not the foundation America has been built upon. We intend to be free, not just more free than the rest of the oppressed world.

To anyone else who wants to voice their opinion to their senators and reps, seriously consider going to the website at the end of the video. It is fightforthefuture.org/pipa. The internet is OURS.
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Male 12,365
[quote]The only way cp or illegal material comes up is if you`ve been to the site it`s hosted at, and why would you go there other than to do illegal things?[/quote]

That isn`t necessarily true. There have been proven cases of illegal material being pushed to a person`s PC without their knowledge or any action on their part, due to security on their PC being compromised.

But it is a bad idea to give complete control over what sites can be seen to a body that answers to no-one that censors according to a list it has made up itself.

Are people really naive enough to believe that only child porn will ever be on that list? How could anyone remain that naive and still function in the real world?
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Male 3,482
[quote]You`re lucky enough to have more freedom than most, be glad of that.[/quote]
And this. The infamous "settle for what you got" argument.

Batmanners, you truly are a sad, pathetic little man, and I hope you NEVER get into politics, because people like you are the reason sh*t like this even makes it to the floor of Congress, let alone any of it getting passed.

You would perfectly okay with the idea of the controlling powers progressively curtailing our freedoms slowly but steadily, claiming that "at least we`re more free than *insert dictatorship here*!"

Whether you realize it or not, that`s exactly what you admitted.
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Male 3,482
So Batmanners, you don`t want anything illegal popping up on your computer while you`re doing something illegal?

Because the only time or reason anything illegal comes up on your computer, is you doing something illegal in the first place.

So since you only want CERTAIN KINDS of illegal content on your computer, you want the government to forcibly protect you from the rest?

If you keep your hard drive clean in the first place, you`re not going to encounter anything you don`t want to.

All you are is a lazy retard.
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Male 45
I`m with furryblob on this. Batmanners, The only way cp or illegal material comes up is if you`ve been to the site it`s hosted at, and why would you go there other than to do illegal things? It is no excuse to give these monsters control over something that should always remain free and uncensored.
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Male 573
@Batmanners I`ve been online since 1999, and I`ve never once stumbled across anything that would put me in jail. So I don`t know what searches or sites you are visiting. If you want content filtering install it on your own computer don`t have government legislate for you.
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Male 4,004
I`m not talking about protecting children, I`m talking about not being imprisoned for nasty internet smut coming on my computer when I don`t want it to.

As as for "big brother controlling what you may and may not search"... What I can`t access can`t hurt me. Accept it. You`re not free. You`re lucky enough to have more freedom than most, be glad of that.
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Male 119
Sure, they`ll block child porn and pirate sites, but what`s next? What gets shut down next? What about a site that disagrees with something said in a movie? Someone who criticizes the latest release from a pop star? Someone who wants to stand up to an unjust law? Anyone who lets Washington or Hollywood make their decisions for them is an ignorant fool.
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Male 573
@Batmanners

"I like that my web is filtered. I don`t want child porn to pop up as I`m going through the internet."

This has nothing to do about `protecting` children, it has everything to do with control.
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Male 573
Knowledge is power, but so is money. As the late Mr Carlin said, "it`s a big club and you ain`t in it".
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Male 1,010
"The sex tourism countries can keep their disgusting porn, I have enough sick porn from Brazil to worry about."

@Batmanners: I suggest you clean out your hard drive.
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Male 4,004
My logic applies to real world. I don`t want to stumble into illegal material when I am at a movie store. Just the same, I don`t want to stumble into foreign unblocked smut that is illegal in our country.

The sex tourism countries can keep their disgusting porn, I have enough sick porn from Brazil to worry about.
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Male 4,004
I like that my web is filtered. I don`t want child porn to pop up as I`m going through the internet.

It`s filtered and that`s okay.
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Male 1,582
@tedgp trust me, that`s not news. We all know how hypocritical our government is and most of us can see how corrupt it is. But its certainly not the fault of the American people. We have as much control over our government as you have control of North Korea. It`s a common misconception that the people have any say in what the government does. Our country is run by a handful of the population and the rest of are kind of just out here to get drated. And we don`t wonder why anyone questions our government. We wonder why people like you think we`re all ignorant morons. Don`t assume all Americans are those you see on reality tv. The majority of us are well cultured individuals who are just as unhappy with America as you are.
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Male 1,010
Legislators may have to pass it, since they pledge allegiance to corporations, with financial legitimacy through campaign contributions. Should make it easier to stop the people criticizing the corporate government, and probably stall a democratic process in the US for quite a while. Not very dramatic now, but so long as China keeps growing and US keeps falling into totalitarian rule, it may make it a lot harder for citizens in the US to mobilize.

Sad to see all of this though. Just a little more than a decade ago, i was able to hop on a plane and travel across the US on a visa i filled out on the plane. Used to be one of the most open and democratic countries in the world. The change is amazing. Sadly, these changes are always hard to notice from the inside looking out.
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Male 10,845
Intellectual property is a very thorny issue. There is a way to balance freedom of speech and intellectual property.
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Male 5,811
I guess I could start using Tor more often...
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Male 1,737
Wow, hard on for Piratebay much!
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Male 3,285
@justin thats why i said your entire country needs an overhaul. Americans wonder why the rest of the world calls their government hypocritical.. Now you know.
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Male 3,364
@OldOllie: The House version is expected to be introduced this week by Reps. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) and Lamar Smith (R-Texas).

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Male 1,582
@tedgp
America is not as democratic as you think. The people have minimal say on everything, and even then no one really listens. We`re corrupted as drat and have been for a long while. Media just tries to make us sound like we haven`t gone to complete poo when we did a long time ago.
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Male 3,285
@vsquared its easy to change your government. You just need to change the rules first. Look at the UK, we can vote out the entire government if we want to, as we did in the 80`s.

The main problem with the US government is that even if you kick out a party from power, you have multtiple `houses` which are still governened by the parties you kicked out.

Your governmental system is a relic from centuries ago. What needs to happen is a complete and total reform to bring it into the 21st century.
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Male 4,902
Yeah but:

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Male 2
As an American.. I agree with the Europeans. Gonna start using foreign proxys. and @tedgp, you have no clue how hard it is to do. :-( they do some good things and then hella lot a bad things. un even trade and single minded people make America fall down
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Male 3,285
So by their logic, every single site capable of performing an external search will be censored? LOL. Tell me americans, why havent you kicked successive governements out of office yet. Youve nobody to blame but yourselves.
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Male 1,421
The counterargumenters: "if you have nothing to hide" should think a little more. The 1% wants total dominance, we all would be recorded, every phone conversation, every letter, everytime you go to the store even what kind of feces you secrete.. Every crevise of your life would be monitored.. "If you got nothing to hide" has got NOTHING to do with crimes but all to do with total control, totalitarism where you will be submissive to anything and everything, you`re basically a slave then. "If you got nothing to hide" strangely won`t account to goverment and the 1%, they still can and will do anything they like. It may already be too late, the next step involves a lot of voilence and death when we are beaten to submission, people WILL get tortured, framed, end up missing..

It`s hard to believe that conservatives are at power everywhere and still gets people to back them up. With ideas like this the dystopian future is coming, you are going to be wire
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Male 1,421
This all commotion that`s been happening lately feels more and more like Goverment is at war with it`s own citizens. Every system that has done it will topple, sooner or later.
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Male 1,421
That`s the 1% doing it`s best to keep dissonant voices down. Oh, and this won`t stop illegal downloading, not one bit..
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Male 239
All this act would do is encourage more people to use middle eastern based proxy servers, but then the US government might declare war on them... wait... there`s no oil on the internet... Nah they`ll be safe then.
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Male 1,231
@Monosandalos; I heard about that, last i read the "The measures will be unveiled on Tuesday as David Cameron hosts No 10 meeting with the Mothers` Union, a Christian charity". The link to the Guardian article is
here Several isps are fighting it, and rightly so. It`s a rediculous idea and it`ll never work.
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Male 554
Everybody start typing!
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Male 1,284
this is the beginning of the internet control
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Male 2,332
Why are there always cnuts that want to control everything? -_-
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Male 1,404
Damn these Neo-Globalists.
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Female 109
thanks tubby. I hate the way this country is going. I hate it so much
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Male 14,775
LOL, US is getting a great firewall like third world countries China and Australia.
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Male 234
Wow that is ridiculous, don`t think it will pass unless the repub get a majority house and senate. Another bill people should know about is the "Protecting Children From Internet Pornographers Act of 2011", which has little to do with protecting children. It requires ISPs to store customers names, addresses, phone numbers, credit card numbers, bank account numbers, and temporarily-assigned IP addresses, and all internet data viewed. It passed a committee, against democratic disapproval, but I don`t think (or at least hope) it won`t go through congress. Read more here.
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Male 15,832
This is just a giant power grab by evil Nazi Republicans!

No...wait...wut?
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Male 10,440
[quote] they already do it to us... [/quote]
No they don`t.
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Male 1,440
If this does pass, (which I doubt it will) you can always use a VPN to trick the internet into thinking you are in a different country.
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Male 3,310
"But in all likelyhood, it will be something else alltogether"

Yup, according to the people that like to pirate software and video. And urine tests are bad according to criminals. I think there`s an open and shut case here.
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Male 290
@Kiete5: We need internet censorship like a hole in the head...

As far as pr0n goes, did you hear/read about the British ISP`s that are going to block all access to porn unless you specifically ask to be excluded?

You think it will stop at that?
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Male 25,416
lolz if IAB gets censored. Good bye Gerry :P
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Male 914
"You shouldn`t say such bad things about "job creators". "

True free-market capitalists don`t believe the government should interfere with the market or impose unnecessary regulations. Bills like this that favor the entertainment industry are a form of interference as well as regulation.

People who love job creators would hate this bill.
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Male 688
"These things never pass anyway."

You are correct sir, in America these things NEVER pass. When you think about it, not much really ever does pass. Do not fear.
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Male 123
Good, they need to start censoring the internet. As long as I can access porn, I`m happy.
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Male 197
@LazyMe484 they already do it to us... so it will affect us more...
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Male 2,422
You shouldn`t say such bad things about "job creators".
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Male 10,440
Haha! American capitalism at it`s finest. Sucks to be you. I guess you have something else to protest now.
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Male 787
These things never pass anyway. If they do I`ll get crazy.
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Male 1,540
Oh boy this thing again.
BTW, for those who don`t know, it`s a rewrite of the Combating Online Infringement and Counterfeits Act, which basically says that any site that doesn`t offer goods or services can be shut down by the government, which is really vague. PROTECT IP makes it sound more beneficial to the consumer but it`s still garabage.
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Female 8,044
Link: PROTECT IP Act Breaks The Internet [Rate Link] - A bill moving through Congress that gives the government and corporations the ability to censor entire sites on the net
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