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Date: 10/18/11 06:54 AM

50 Responses to Outrage In China: Toddler Run Over Twice, Ignored

  1. Profile photo of MCMXCIII
    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 6:56 am
    Link: Outrage In China: Toddler Run Over Twice, Ignored - Footage of a toddler falling victim to two successive hit-and-run accidents and then being ignored by passers-by.
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    jbwhite Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:08 am
    10 points!
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    Aedran Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:09 am
    I studied this in my psychology class. While there is a fear of being sued, the number one reason is that when in a group, people tend to do what the group does, which is to ignore the problem. If you get in an accident, the best chance for human help is if there is only one another person.
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    lastrogue Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:10 am
    So it seems it`s not only Americans that are soulless azs holes
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    heavypred Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:25 am
    @TheJigsaw- Did you really post that? What`s wrong with you man? Stupid troll is stupid
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:28 am
    Actually there is a reason people in China have become conditioned to not get involved. A while ago there was a prominent case where a good Samaritan stopped to help an injured person. The good Samaritan called police and an ambulance. The injured person blamed the good Samaritan for their injuries, and the case went to court. The Judge in the case decided that because the good Samaritan called for help, he was responsible. This set a precedence in Chinese law. There have been many cases recently where elderly people will lay down in a road, and when someone stops to see what is wrong, they will accuse them of hitting them, and try to extort money based on this ruling. So if you are in China, don`t expect anyone to help you if are injured.
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    elhowell Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:35 am
    Was the kid even hurt? They cut out the scene of her being hit.

    I`m guessing this was more exaggerated than anything. Trying to show us how "evil" chinese people are.
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    Jewzis Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:50 am
    @MrPeabody how does this explain why they wouldn`t help a Child? Like a lil girl that young can even grasp that she could blame the woman who could very well be saving her life just so she can get a bunch of money? I could understand if it was an adult, but that lil girl is a baby, there`s no excuse to ignore her.
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:51 am
    "Was the kid even hurt? They cut out the scene of her being hit.

    I`m guessing this was more exaggerated than anything. Trying to show us how "evil" chinese people are."

    The girl was critically injured, with no spontaneous respiration and close to brain death when she arrived at the hospital, said Wen Qiang, deputy director of the intensive care unit of the hospital.

    The little girl was declared "brain dead" by the hospital on Sunday afternoon and could die at any time, according to a doctor surnamed Peng.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:54 am
    I thought China was communist, so why would people expect morality from that system, when there is none. Also, girls are not valued as much as boys, so there is that.

    I also believe the suing part, not surprising at all.
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:57 am
    "Like a lil girl that young can even grasp that she could blame the woman who could very well be saving her life just so she can get a bunch of money?"

    The parents, the police and the courts could though. The problem is that it`s not unprecedted.

    Read This. It is a good explanation of why people will not help.

    And I`m not saying it is a good excuse for not helping, but people are afraid that they will be held responsible both criminally and financially for helping.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 8:08 am
    Oh no I have baby girl and dishonor famiry tell her to go pray in traffic I can`t afford wedding!!!
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    MrPeabody Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 8:11 am
    This is the meat of the article I linked below:
    "In a 2009 paper on the phenomenon, anthropologist Yunxiang Yan pointed out that police and judges frequently demanded that the helper prove his innocence, while the extortionist was not required to provide witnesses or other evidence.

    In one notorious case, a court ordered a Nanjing man to pay more than 45,000 yuan (£4,400) to an old lady whom he had taken to hospital. The judge argued it was common sense that he would not have gone to such trouble unless he had caused her fall."

    This is the case I refereed to below but had some of the details wrong.

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    xxamsey Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 8:14 am
    What I`m wondering is... she`s two? Where the drat were her parents?
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    bliznik Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 8:26 am
    This could be a byproduct of Chinese citizens being desensitized by the overdramatic child beggars in China. I remember when I used to visit Beijing and Shanghai, there would be teams of dirty children who were physically mangled by their owner/pimp to throw themselves upon tourists for more charity money, which was always immediately handed over to their owners/pimps. It took me a while before I stopped giving making eye contact or giving money to these kids, b/c if I did, the other kids would target me and come a-running and throw themselves on the ground, pretending to writhe in pain. ...the streets of China have largely been cleaned up since then, but it`s not such an uncommon practice so as to not be a thought in a person`s head when they walk past a dirty child in the street.

    I still think that if I were in this situation, I`d stop and check on the child, but I`d definitely keep an eye out for a "handler" who might be manipulating the child to pretend to be hur
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 8:46 am
    If anyone wants to see the unedited video of her being run over twice (gross as it is to say that sentence, I`m mentioning it because of the person who said "Was the kid even hurt? They cut out the scene of her being hit".) I saw this video on a news site earlier: watch?v=l2DbzHz_m-I
    Warning about it being graphic, if the "run over 2 times" isn`t enough of a clue.
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    pmarren Male 40-49
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    October 18, 2011 at 9:07 am
    Now I`m hungry for some Chinese food.
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    iLove Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 9:20 am
    Full video:
    I feel sick now.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 9:43 am
    "I`m guessing this was more exaggerated than anything. Trying to show us how "evil" chinese people are.""

    Guess again. If you were so inclined, it would be very easy for you to see the unedited version as shown in China by the Chinese news. Having seen it, I can say that it is pretty sad. I would link it, but then all the bitch-ass panzy tree-hugging hipssters would jump out of the bushes and write me stern letters of consternation about the whole thing.
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    crudson Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 10:23 am
    If it was a boy it would be a different story. A Chinese girl is a pariah. Sad but true.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 11:05 am

    That`s why societies where you`re guilty until proven innocent always have a lower quality of life.
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    yoda141 Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 11:08 am
    This is backward. I saw one video similar about one biker being run over and nobody did a thing, they just stood there watching and he ended up dead. It was in the United States btw so don`t think you`re the hot poo either.
    China sucks, but not because of this incident.
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    hagane Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 11:15 am
    I watched the video from iLove, I feel sick now, too. Why do people treat each other like dogs?
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    jeepjones Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 11:17 am
    How can anyone sue another person in a Communist country?
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    Tekas Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 11:48 am
    This is what the world is coming to and no, it`s not only in China.

    A couple years ago in my little European country, I too seen this first hand. It was a very rainy night, I was waiting at an intersection when a mother carrying her little child decided to cross the road without looking, in a place that is a blind spot for drivers. While the mother was projected to the side of the road the girl ended up in the middle of the road. Dead.

    I quickly blocked part of the intersection with my own car and ran to the middle of the road to stop other cars, since no one would see the child in the middle of the road. Me and the guy that hit them were the only ones calling 911. I got so pissed off at the dozens of cars that would even honk and complain because one lane was blocked! For god`s sake, there was a child in the middle of the road, dead! (Although we didn`t know that for sure at the time). Yet people kept complaining the lane was blocked.
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    the_windy Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 11:59 am
    Here there`s a law here that protects a good samaritan from being sued if they attempt to help someone who is injured, or in trouble. I don`t see why more countries don`t have this.
    You can read about it here.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
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    October 18, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    I dont understand this.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    Thats sad... i lose faith in humanity
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    QualityJay Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Not cool.
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    snakecharmer Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 1:30 pm
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    SethDog Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 2:00 pm archives/2011/10/18/ toddler-run-over-by-truck -left-to-die-in-streets-of-china/

    Quote by the initial guy who ran her over when asked if he was aware he had run over a child, the van’s driver responded affirmatively, explaining: "I only need to pay $1,500 if she dies. But if she lives, it would cost ten times more at least" ....WOW what a scumbag!!.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    For some reason I`m not buying that quote. I suppose it`s possible "he" said that but not even identifying this driver`s name, I some how doubt it.
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    jojoabobo Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 3:14 pm
    The people didn`t stop because they didn`t want to get blamed for it. I lived in China for a year and one day there was a car on fire across the street, everyone just walked by like it wasn`t happening untill the fire truck arrived THEN everyone crowded around. It was weird.
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    uatme Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    Where`s the mother they spoke of..
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    jadoig Male 30-39
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    October 18, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    couldnt watch. this makes me ill.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 6:39 pm
    So one person out of billions is suffering? STOP THE dratIN PRESSES PEOPLE!
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 6:54 pm
    And now my night is ruined
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    October 18, 2011 at 7:19 pm
    In France if you happen to see another person in need of assistance such as this and don`t make reasonable efforts to help or to save their life, you will be charged and prosecuted.
    All mammals who live in a group/ herd will show concern for the fellow member in case of injury.
    This vid was just sickening.
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    Vanessa137 Female 18-29
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    October 18, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    Quote from one article: `When ran from shop to shop for the identity of the girl, the rag collector was told by a number of shopkeepers to mind her own business.`
    Yeah, when I lived in Shanghai last year, that`s what my Chinese roommate told me- People in China don`t get into any one else`s business.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    October 19, 2011 at 12:07 am
    China has created this situation through its courts. If you give aid at an accident where you are not bang-to-rights-guilty, you are very likely to be held liable, both in criminal and civil terms. Remember how harsh judgements can be. Remember that insurance is compulsory but not universally bought.

    Although there is a higher standard of court judgement, there is a similarly distressing situation in the US; the legislature and judiciary has allowed it to become a litigious society. Healthcare is exorbitant and many other activities are rendered impossible as a result.

    Courts must be careful when they make awards.
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2011 at 1:16 am
    I want to make some points posting this video.

    1. I don`t post this because 1 person is being suffered, while 1 million more dying without me knowing (I`m looking at you, Solvent). I posted this because it shows how indifferent people can be in regards of others` suffering.
    2. No, this has next to nothing to do with Chinese, communism or the law system. This, however, has everything to do with human psychology and group behaviour. The first man saw it and ignored her out of fear and confusion, therefore many people after that did the same. Had the first man helped, many would have helped too.
    3. Noted how I didn`t say "nothing" but rather "next to nothing". There are flaws in the Chinese societies that encourage indifference and apathy in people, as many have pointed out: lawsuits, rampant child abuse, materialistic lifestyle that pursues monetary gain.

    SO, please focus on the point and stop derail this please.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2011 at 3:20 am
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    ryukenden888 Male 30-39
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    October 19, 2011 at 5:18 am
    what is wrong with these people?
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    LoveToSpooge Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2011 at 10:40 am
    Going off of Draculya, this is also true in America. If you`re not a medical professional and try to provide first aid care to someone who hasn`t explicitly consented to it, they have the legal right to sue you whether you helped or made things worse...but come on, it`s a child...
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    The_Frogg Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    It`s called the bystander effect. Where everyone else does nothing thinking someone else will take care of it. It`s been around forever and it`s here to stay.
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    bunny_knight Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2011 at 2:18 pm
    no good deed goes unpunished?
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    Raizurhk Male 18-29
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    October 19, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    There is giving untrained medical aid to someone then there is helping them to avoid further harm and to be honest if i saw a little kid get hit by a car then just left i couldnt give two poos if i got sued i would help em and i would hope there would be people out there with enough humanity left to help my kids if it ever happened to them. The human race is sickening we are supposed to be a civilised race and this kinda poo still happens.
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    PTPete Female 30-39
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    October 19, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    I hope that baby is ok. That is the worse thing I have seen all week.
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    verbosity Male 30-39
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    October 20, 2011 at 5:33 pm
    C`mon - if this happened in the US, people would have thought "how dare that homeless kid dirty my streets, somebody should call the cops and get rid of this trash... but not me." Yeah, I have no faith in humanity, and even less in US citizens.
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    GreyYes Female 18-29
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    October 22, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    @verbosity - where the drat in the US do you live?

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