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45 Responses to Joe Rogan On Drugs And Responsibility

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    thatoneguy09 Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 9:07 am
    Link: Joe Rogan On Drugs And Responsibility - A little bit of social truth. What do you think, I-A-B? A bit too controversial or does Rogan hit the mark?
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 9:47 am
    Legal or illegal he`s advocating FOR DRUG USE!

    Come on guys lets go shoot up some heroin!
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    Thetas Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 9:51 am
    "The world needs Shamans"
    Oh.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 10:00 am
    It does raise an interesting question ... why is it still illegal and why are people so scared of it?
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 10:05 am
    Drug use is everywhere Klamz, coffee, cigarettes and alcohol to name but a few. The later two cause a lot of harm worldwide, yet are legal. Why?
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 10:18 am
    Thats the problem Klamz, people like you actually think Cannabis, Heroin and all other illicit drugs are exactly the same.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 10:38 am
    Lost me at "shaman."
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    DrCarmody Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 10:59 am
    Could we just stop with all these stupid `Weed is good because I use it` posts?

    I`ve yet to see a neutral party actually weigh the pros and cons of both sides, only jonesed up potheads saying they`re right. I think a heroin user would say heroin is great and it should be legal as well.
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    chrn368 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:11 am
    The only propoganda being spewed around is that marijuana is beneficial. It causes cancer. Fact. It causes schizophrenia. Fact. Along with a lot of other things. I lov ethe pro sites, because they all spew this garbage and they don`t back any of it up with studies or statistical evidence. They just present it as truth, when if you actually look at the studies you`ll see quite the opposite of what they`re claiming.
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    chrn368 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:15 am
    I`m also sick of this "medicinal" crap. You`re a drug addict and you only want it legal so you can`t get in trouble for using it. What`s sad is, that those people abusing the "medicinal use" card are actually taking legitimacy away from people that ARE using it responsibly and who do actually need it and making them look like they`re full of crap. Also, an individual should ahve the right to do whatever they want with their body, unless it harms others. Gay marriage doesn`t hurt anyone, therefore it should be legal. But drug use changes behavious and judgement patterns. Pot smoke gives a contact high. That affects people you smoke it around who might not want a high and it also can cause friction in family and friendships. It doesn`t just affect the individual using. Just based on that it should be illegal.
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    jkorr Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:30 am
    Wow. chrn368 you are really ignorant. Talk about spewing garbage with nothing to back it up... "It causes schizophrenia" & "It causes Cancer" What? Lets see the studies on those.






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    unicyclemstr Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:39 am
    can`t tell if chrn368 is just a troll or actually retarded. yes anything going into your lungs is bad for you, but i have never seen any studies where people who only smoke marijuana get cancer. whats more ridiculous was that you said it causes schizophrenia. also "I lov ethe pro sites, because they all spew this garbage and they don`t back any of it up with studies or statistical evidence." sounds exactly like what you are doing...
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    gymcoach29 Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:45 am
    I have smoked it, and I personally dont like it. However, In my experience, Alcohol is FAR more dangerous and bad for you than Marijuana by far..If Alcohol is legal, pot really should be too..just my opinion...
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:47 am
    Honestly I think things like this hurt the cause. I`m all for legalizing marijuana and I think it`s ridiculous that people get arrested for it, but I`m not exactly fond of people essentially saying that everyone should do it/try it and that it makes them better and overall promoting its use.
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    trig45 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:48 am
    chrn368... if you would actually do some research, you would find that cannabanoids ARE medcially benefical; whether you ingest them for a mild headache, multiple sclerosis, PTSD, depression, anxiety, anorexia, and a MULTITUDE of other ailments. yes, it does have some mild, negative side affects. it can increase chances of schizophrenia in young adults, it will decrease lung capacity, and it affects short term memory. but when you take those side affects and just compare them to tylenol? ibuprofen, aspirin, ritalin... all these things do way worse things to you than a doobie. "That affects people you smoke it around who might not want a high and it also can cause friction in family and friendships. It doesn`t just affect the individual using. Just based on that it should be illegal." well based on your logic, alcohol, cigarettes, milk, aerosols, air conditioning... all these things should be illegal because they have the capacity to affect and possibly upset a group of people
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    trig45 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:53 am
    sounds to me like you buy too much in to government propaganda. you would rather take away everyones freedom of choice just because something has the potential to be bad... everything humanity is responsible for has to potential to do great harm; but it also has the potential to do great good. if you ask me, all drugs should be legal. not so i can legally do them; thats never stopped anyone. ever. but so that we can use them in a socailly responsible way. if someone wants to shoot heroin their whole life, what gives me the right to judge them? so long as the personal choices of others do not infringe upon my right of personal choice.
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    trig45 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:55 am
    lillian, you are right. pot isnt for everyone, especially for those with a predisposition to paranoid schizophrenia. but if someone smokes it and enjoys smoking it, it can increase your empathetic response towards others.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    "The later two cause a lot of harm worldwide, yet are legal. Why?"

    WHY INDEED!

    If they were illegal as they should be there wouldn`t be nearly as much of a push for marijuana

    It basically just stems from historical usage.

    "Thats the problem Klamz, people like you actually think Cannabis, Heroin and all other illicit drugs are exactly the same."

    I don`t think that actually, no have I said anything about that. I`m point out the fact that he`s support the altered state of mind and other effects MANY drugs give you and not just supporting 1 single drug by name.

    A very bad approach if you ask me as he`s not advocating for SAFE drug usage, he`s just advocating for drug usage in general.

    He sounds like he`s got some serious life issues and needs to get over it and stop hiding behind his addiction.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 23, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    The advocates aren`t doing their cause any good with their rather silly arguments pretending that cannabis is a medicinal drug with far less adverse effects than aspirin, blah blah blah.

    Yeah, right.

    You`re advocating it being legal as a *recreational* drug. The medicinal angle is just an excuse.

    Also, there`s a huge difference between smoking it and ingesting it, which many advocates gloss over. There`s a huge difference in the impact on the health of the user and there`s a huge difference in the impact of the health of the people within range, as well as their freedom of choice. Advocates almost always either simply dismiss other people as unimportant or consider themselves so much more important than non-users that they`re moved to anger by the idea that they should care about non-users at all.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 23, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    I have smoked it, and I personally dont like it. However, In my experience, Alcohol is FAR more dangerous and bad for you than Marijuana by far..If Alcohol is legal, pot really should be too..just my opinion...

    Alcohol is legal for historical and cultural reasons. If it was a newly developed drug, it would be illegal. So if you apply the same standards to alcohol and cannabis, the logical conclusion is that alcohol should be illegal.

    The USA tried that. It didn`t work out at all well because alcohol use and abuse was (and is) so very deeply engrained in the USA (and very many other countries). Cannabis use isn`t.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 23, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    can`t tell if chrn368 is just a troll or actually retarded. yes anything going into your lungs is bad for you, but i have never seen any studies where people who only smoke marijuana get cancer.

    That`s because such a thing is against your position, so you ignore it. You`re too busy calling people retarded because they know more than you do.

    Do you really think that the 50 known carcinogens in cannabis have no effect even when smoked, which is such an obviously stupid and harmful way to take any drug?

    You had no idea that there were known carcinogens in cannabis, did you?

    You`re going to ignore it, aren`t you?

    Cannabis advocates are on a par with devout evangelical theists who KNOW that they are right regardless of evidence. Many of both groups are deeply unpleasant and annoying. Neither should be allowed any power, in order to protect the safety of others.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 23, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    Then there`s dosage. There`s a huge variation in dosage, yet it`s consistently ignored by advocates so desperately clamouring that all cannabis use is completely safe and anyone who says otherwise is a sheeple of the government/conspiracy, blah blah blah.

    Is drinking a pint of beer the same as drinking a pint of vodka? No, because vodka has a far higher concentration of the drug than beer does, so the dose is far higher. Which is also true of different samples of cannabis. When judging the effects, that matters a great deal. A study done on people who drink a pint of beer every day doesn`t really cover people who drink a pint of vodka every day.

    I`m suprised none of the advocates have said it cures cancer. I`ve seen other advocates do that. They have no idea what they`re talking about, of course, it`s just something that they`d heard being preached by the righteous ones.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 23, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    In case anyone is wondering, some of the substances in cannabis can, when purified and applied in levels many times higher than any user would ever get, kill tumour cells in a test tube in a lab, under some circumstances. As can many other substances, none of which are a cure for cancer.
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    unicyclemstr Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    Angilion, I am neither for nor against the legalization of marjiuana. If someone wants to smoke, then go ahead, it doesn`t affect me at all. I don`t smoke anything, but I do know that inhaling any smoke into your lungs is not good for your lungs. http://tinyurl.com/anrs9 (link to the site i am quoting) "The cancer-promoting effects of smoke are increased by nicotine, while they are reduced by THC. Tobacco and cannabis smoke contain the same carcinogenic compounds -- and depending on which part of the plant is smoked, cannabis smoke can contain more of them -- but, whereas nicotine activates these carcinogenic compounds, THC has been shown to inhibit them in mice cells." just sayin.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    right o
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    Tisjokar Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    While I think it should be legal... One of the problems for society, or maybe its just my part of society, is that it only seems that douchebags use weed and talk about how "baked" they get to act cool.

    As I have said, I wanted it to be legal, but the picture that is painted of cannabis uses IS NOT from the media, the only people I know in my life who use cannabis are ALL idiots/dropouts.

    This is what I think is one of the major reasons why it is being struggled to be legalized in many societies.

    No I am not saying ALL uses are douches, it just happens to be that alot of them are. This may just be because its legal and only "bad ass people" would do it, but it still remains as a hindrance.
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    jteachey1 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Pot is still illegal because the bought out politicians are doing favors for the private prison industry by ignoring simple facts. Marijuana isn`t drating harmful (besides smoke in the lungs, luckily there are other methods). Show me. SHOW ME the damn study that says marijuana is harmful. Better yet, show me the reasoning behind the prohibition. What good reason do they have?
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    jteachey1 Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    And yes i support legalization. Do I smoke weed? Nope.
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    lastrogue Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 2:42 pm
    Vote Ron Paul, he is in support for legalization of allowing people to make their own choice in what they smoke! Why does no one ever talk about that sh*t?!?!?!?!
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    I want to legalize pot just to stop the Goddamn Drug Cartels from making money.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    ...is that it only seems that douchebags use weed and talk about how "baked" they get to act cool

    You have something there. The rest of us who smoke pot and aren`t douch bags aren`t so apparent because we keep it quiet when we do it, we stay off the roads, and then we get up in the morning feeling well rested and ready for work the next day.

    I am not suggesting that you are calling us all douche bags. I added that bit because I only partially quoted your post and wanted to be fair to you.
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    furrything Male 50-59
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    October 23, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    Blame the Hearst family.
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    tlshaman Male 13-17
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    October 23, 2011 at 6:47 pm
    The concept of shamans is a little bit out there isn`t it. It`ll make sense if you read Food of the Gods by Terence McKenna. That is, if you like reading and learning.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 23, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    "Medicinal Marijuana" my foot! It`s all just a bunch of hippie stoners!

    Right ?


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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
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    October 23, 2011 at 8:12 pm
    Joe Rogan is always interesting to listen to. I don`t buy into the shaman thing, and I think he`s wrong about weed being all goodness and light, but he does make some interesting points.
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    lingh0e Male 30-39
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    October 23, 2011 at 10:03 pm
    @tisjokar - The people you are referring to are the stereotypical burnouts. However, I can assure you that many many many more functioning, contributing upstanding taxpaying members of society enjoy the occasional spliff.
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    Chives Male 18-29
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    October 23, 2011 at 11:03 pm
    The whole shaman thing did seem to throw off some of his reasoning, but his explanations still made sense. I think that if marijuana were legalized, even after government regulation of THC content and whatnot, there would at least be some extra revenue circulating in the US. The damage to drug cartels is just an added bonus.
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    MightyPeanut Male 30-39
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    October 24, 2011 at 12:15 am
    blah blah blah...pothead.
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    Nick_13 Male 30-39
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    October 24, 2011 at 2:16 am
    ...It`ll make sense if you read Food of the Gods by Terence McKenna. That is, if you like reading and learning.

    Cheers dude, created this if anyone else is interested. http://tinyurl.com/6yqgnrc
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    Ogen Male 18-29
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    October 24, 2011 at 3:47 am
    Marijuana is a wonderful thing, and of course should be legal. Should everyone have to smoke it? No. But everyone should have the choice.

    And there is not a single person, who doesn`t profit on it being illegal that, I cannot convince that it should be legal with nothing but pure sound logic.
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    October 24, 2011 at 6:02 am
    I for one don`t trust anyone who claims to have never done any drugs.

    They`re either lying or have no clue what they`re talking about.

    Most people fall into the latter category.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    October 24, 2011 at 8:24 am
    Trying to explain modern shamanism to a bunch of 60 year olds christians will probably just worsen the situation. The exact thing i soon have to do and i know it won`t be easy, as no doubt they will think that i`m possessed by the devil.
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    Nordicdusk Male 30-39
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    October 24, 2011 at 8:31 am
    The man talks the truth right on Mr Rogan
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    shaustin Male 18-29
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    October 24, 2011 at 8:55 pm
    its as simple as this: The people who decide the laws are the ones who are profiting off them. Why would the governments legalize something if the short term result would be them losing money?
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    chickiesue86 Male 70 & Over
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    October 25, 2011 at 5:41 am
    definitely hit the mark.

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