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108 Responses to Bully Gets 3 Day Suspension For This Beating

  1. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 8:38 am
    Link: Bully Gets 3 Day Suspension For This Beating - Lax attitudes towards bullying allow these actions to continue with little to no repercussions.
  2. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Anyone have a link to a clear video?

    I hate news services blurring out things they think will offend my delicate sensibilities while reporting as much gore as possible.

    Teases!
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    corywebb Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Repeatedly punching him in the face when he`s on the ground? That kid deserves more than just 3 days suspension.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 10:56 am
    Well that kid probably deserves any legal repercussions, assuming there would be any.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:00 am
    What a joke! I was suspended for three days for skipping school. That kid needs to be expelled. Anything less is sending a message to all their students that this sort of thing isn`t taken seriously.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:03 am
    I hope that bully ends up being Tyrone`s b*tch in the slammer.

    And "hate crimes" are f*cking retarded. The bully should be charged with beating the other kid. Whether the kid is gay or not should mean nothing in the eyes of the law. The point is that the bully beat the poor guy.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:04 am
    This kid in my class a few years ago got a 3 day suspension for changing his grade on the computer when my teacher left the grade sheet open and walked away. I thought /he/ should have had a longer suspension . 3 days for this beating is definitely not enough! WTF?
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    DromEd Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:10 am
    More like 3 years in prison. Too many of these punks a coddled and this s--- needs to stop.
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    freedan104 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:10 am
    @ Gerry, I think its there to protect the identities of the minors involved.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:12 am
    The film is a little blurry.. could we reshoot that?
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:21 am
    That`s fine. He`ll probably spend those three days getting beaten up by his parents.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:23 am
    She should just post his name on a FB page asking for `assistance`. It`ll get dealt with properly.
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    RobSwindol Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:28 am
    "I was suspended for three days for skipping school."

    Brassbull, that doesn`t make sense from the school`s standpoint. I mean, did it go something like this?

    "Hello Mr. and Mrs. Brassbull, my name is principal Numbnuts. You child seems to not want to come to school, so we are going to punish him with 3 days off."

    COME ON PEOPLE!!!
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    birdawg68 Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:32 am
    Can you actually beat the gay outta someone? Why would you waste your time even caring what the kids mom told him he was? Beating him will only make you tired and get you in trouble. Just let him be gay.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:36 am
    @RobSwindol - It was in-house suspension. They put me in a small filing room in the back of the library for three days. There were a tone of notes in there, all hidden, all giving clues to the location of the next note, and all left by previously suspended students. It was pretty entertaining as far as suspensions go.
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    jeepjones Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:36 am
    Maybe if nothing is being done, instead of blaming other people the mother of the teen being bullied should take a more proactive approach and get her son into some self defense classes or boxing/martial arts. I know the results won`t happen right away but at least the kid will gain some confidence & self esteem which he severely lacks. It will more than likely save his life in more ways then one, he will more than likely start standing up for himself which will definetley help as well as the fact with a little more self esteem he won`t end up as just another bullied teen suicide.
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    austin1 Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:36 am
    Just don`t be gay and these problems wont happen
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    kru2wuero Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:47 am
    this calls for expulsion, look how that dude throws punch after punch!
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    Demynted Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:50 am
    This is a hate crime, period. They need to send this punk to jail, there`s no point in waiting until he does it again.
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    Arcval Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:51 am
    @austin1: Yes, because violence and the sexual repression of gay people makes them not gay, and not form illegal all gay underground nightclubs, have clandestine sex with other guys then go home to a wife trapped in a loveless marriage. Nooooooooo.
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    GhettoNinja Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 11:54 am
    "instead of blaming other people the mother of the teen being bullied should take a more proactive approach and get her son into some self defense classes or boxing/martial arts."


    Did you smoke crack before posting that jeepjones? Or maybe after?

    That has to be in the top ten of most idiotic things to post in response to this video.

    Yeah...instead of blaming the piece of crap kid who beat her son, she should blame herself and her son. Her son should take martial arts to learn how to defend himself...the results wont happen right away...

    Are you effing serious? So...her son should go to martial arts classes and get beat up till he can beat up the bully and gain some self confidence?

    Seriously....I have 15 years of Kung Fu classes under my belt, and there is NOTHING that can be taught to anyone in a week or a month that will stop this sort of thing from happening.

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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    Disgusting
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    Tubby12370 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    This is a hate crime, why only 3 day suspension, it should have been expulsion.
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    @jeepjones instead of trying to blame the victim why do you just get f#cked
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    morimacil123 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    Bullies always have existed, and always will. I think its impossible to completely wipe out ignorance, jealousy and hatred.
    Bullies are part of the problem, but their the part of the problem that we cant fix, sadly.
    The part of the problem that we CAN fix however, is everyone else. Ppl need to stop being such pussies, and actually take part.
    If you see someone get beat up, ffs, go help him.
    If you see a woman getting mugged, do something!
    If you see somone trapped in a burning car, help them best you can!
    And ffs, STOP PULLING OUT YOUR GODDAM PHONE WHEN YOU SHOULD BE ACTING!
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    MightyPeanut Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:09 pm
    cell phone camera`s were around during Gerry`s childhood?
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    Thetas Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Woohoo! If I hold somebody on the ground and start beating the ever-living drat out of them for being gay, I get three days off from school!


    Sickening.
  28. Profile photo of markust123
    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    "Can you actually beat the gay outta someone? Why would you waste your time even caring what the kids mom told him he was? Beating him will only make you tired and get you in trouble. Just let him be gay."

    Actually more than likely the bully was trying to beat the gay out of himself. Same thing the self loathing gay church leader`s and people in congress do. They attack and attack gays hoping their own feelings will go away.
  29. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    There is more going on than just this one incidence.

    It the bully had hit on {excuse the phrase} anyone else, say a black guy or a girl, would the school give a 3 day suspention or would his ass be in jail that same day?

    Gay bashing is a lesser crime it seems. That`s why most gay students who are beaten never tell the school or their parents. They don`t see that as any help. Certainly they can`t go to their preachers for guidance.
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    savemejebus Female 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    He`s kicking his ass because the gay kid refused to blow him in the locker room, after gym.
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    Crabes Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    they always get away with it because they are kids and its at school but they should be charge with assault like everybody
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    PinkRhoid Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Gerry, out of every fight my school ever had the only one`s that had arrests and/or jailtime were ones involving a weapon like a knife (and one pencil stabbing. We had black and white kids fight all the time and it was never made racial unless it was actually racial and even then they don`t jail them or charge them with crimes unless it happens constantly. Suspend and call parents almost everytime.

    However, I agree that as of yet gaybashing is not taken anywhere near as seriously as racial and sexist issues.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    @Crabes - Judging by that bully`s build, I`d say he plays football. As someone who loathes gambling I`d be willing to bet a lot of money that that factored into the school`s decision of how to punish him.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    It`s assault, any way you look at it.Gay,bi or otherwise.
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 12:53 pm
    really? i hope the charges stick in this case but depending on the kids age you never know how that`s going to turn out. And 3 days? effin rediculous.
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    I can`t believe this is still going on...
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    that kid punches like a bitch...
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    strangedays Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    I am absolutely disgusted that school can be this magical place where kids can get a slap on the wrist for doing things that will get them arrested otherwise. Assault, battery, and drug possession are the top ones I can think of right now. Telling a kid (who probably doesn`t care about school in the first place) to not go to school for a few days is the most worthless punishment ever. If more of these hardasses ended up actually punished for what they`re doing, we wouldn`t be seeing this many cases of kids getting the living sh*t beaten out of them for rediculous reasons.
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    eMDeeBea Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    In the 6th grade I was attacked by larger student right in front of a teacher. It was obvious that he was the aggressor, it was even reported by the teacher that the other student attacked me. After getting hit in the face a few times, I decided to fight back. I put him in a headlock and punched him in the head once, then held him down so he couldn`t he me anymore.

    The result: He had `In-School Suspension` for two weeks for assaulting me. I was kicked out of that school defending myself.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    Friggin facebook....
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    QualityJay Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    No more hate crime charges. Keep it at assault. No different from a straight kid getting his ass beat. Also, the school should do the punishing, not the police. (and yes 3 days is weak punishment)
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    Kids like him should get expelled on the spot. They don`t add anything to a stable learning environment. A three day suspension is just like the school saying "we honestly don`t give a damn if you beat the crap outta that kid, but his mom is making a fuss"
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    unicyclemstr Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    This video is sickening, but I do agree with some people here that hate crimes shouldn`t exist. I would say the majority of violent attacks happen because someone hates another person, whether it be they are from the LGBT community, a different race, or the same race. That being said, that bully should either be expelled, or get time in juvie/jail. I agree with brassbull too, the kid definitely has the build of a football player, so that may have factored into the school decision, which is even more sickening.
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    sicker Female 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    Oh, white boy, you have opened yourself up to a world of friggin` hurt.
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    Beardofzeus Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    The police should definitely be involved. Is 3 days suspension from school appropriate punishment for an unprovoked violent assault? I say no. Also, this guy needs to watch American Beauty - closet case!
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    elderban99 Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Assault someone in public, get 30 days to a year or more in jail. Assault someone in school, get a 3-day suspension. Yeah, there`s something wrong with that picture.
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    Goddarnasian Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    That kid is obviously going no where in life.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 2:47 pm
    Disgusting.

    The fine for assault is 40 gold. If not paid it means 1 day in jail and the loss of a skillpoint.
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    nospoons Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm
    forward to anonymous please. vigilante justice to fill in the gaps where the politically correct legal system falls short.
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    Justahuman Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:04 pm
    Thats such bull crap i got suspended for a week for smokin herb in the bathrooms, but a bully who assaults a poor kid who did nothing wrong gets 3 days??? :S
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    schnarre Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    *groans in disgust*
  52. Profile photo of Rawrg
    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    That`s straight up assault, and that kid needs to spend some time in juvenile hall.
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    NILE12 Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:30 pm
    If it was an ordinary girl it`d be more serious to them...
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    tsiemens Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    Well don`t be gay then!!! (joke)
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    mcssls Female 70 & Over
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    an eye for an eye
  56. Profile photo of tsiemens
    tsiemens Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    Well don`t be gay then!!! (joke)
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    RecycleElf Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    would gladely jump in and beat the bully. violence breeds violence? dman right.
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    vaalkyr Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    I don`t care what you are for or against, there is no excuse for assaulting another human being. The kid that did that needs to be sent to juvenile hall.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 4:06 pm
    No more hate crime charges. Keep it at assault. No different from a straight kid getting his ass beat.

    I agree. Hate crime law is based on the assumption that people in some groups are more important than people in other groups, which makes hate crime law innately discriminatory.

    It might be different if the naming was accurate and it was hate that was the key factor, but it isn`t. They`re not saying that assault is worse if the attacker hates the victim - that would be true of the majority of assaults. The laws are actually "special treatment groups laws", not "hate crime laws".

    Also, the school should do the punishing, not the police. (and yes 3 days is weak punishment)

    Why not the police? Schools are not independent nations that aren`t subject to the laws of the country they`re in - they are part of that country.
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 4:08 pm
    No one can touch anyone these days. You prosecute the offender and it upsets the offenders family who seek revenge. It`s a vicious circle. Teachers are scared to discipline kids for fear of the parents coming to school and kicking the crap out of them.
    Bullies should be murdered. In cold blood, in front of the school. Thats a deterrent.
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    meowmeowmeow Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    I`ve never been beaten up in my life (Other then by my parents), since I am paranoid about these things and I always bring a tazer, Jackknife, and pepper spray on me. I`m also in the process of getting a hidden fire-arm license.
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    the_windy Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    Of course sue! It`s aggravated assault. He should be sent to juvie and then have a restraining order put against him. Some anger management would be good too.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    Angillion et. al, quite the opposite in fact. Hate crime laws prosecute an offender for hate/bias motivated crimes, crimes that are meant to send a message to the victimized groups. A message of intimidation, "If this is who you are and you`re out there, THIS is gonna happen to you next." It is *based* on equal protection for all.

    And if you keep insisting that motive doesn`t matter in criminal cases, then you have to explain why Manslaughter is different from Murder in the 3rd Degree w/o consideration of it.
  64. Profile photo of Khronnus
    Khronnus Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 6:37 pm
    Family wants revenge? If my parents saw me doing that, they`d beat me the same. Fact.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 6:41 pm
    that bully is gay too. he just won`t admit it yet.
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    evam-9 Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:00 pm
    those bullies are just evil. they are so bad they don`t realize who are they to judge other people. i wish they just go straight to hell where they belong to.
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    snakecharmer Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:29 pm
    Lil fag should have fought back and made that bully look like a fag for being beat up by a fag
  68. Profile photo of ardystic
    ardystic Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    omg why is he beating up on him? aren`t they facebook friends?
  69. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:47 pm
    Why the drat they show the victim holding his balls? One more example of false conservatism in media.. Why do you let this happen? Are you really that scared of homovirus?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:49 pm
    QueenZira, I`ve never heard it put better.
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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:53 pm
    oh man. I wish i could be in a room with that low life bully for 60 seconds

    I`d break his f/ucking face.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 7:59 pm
    so just bully the kid back because he is fat.
  73. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 8:01 pm
    "Lil fag should have fought back and made that bully look like a fag for being beat up by a fag"

    Really? I`m totally hetero and i have never hit anyone in my measely 37 years of living with you non-nice individuals. I had to endure this exact same poo just because i wasn`t in the same religious group like the rest of you. So, you think that you`re just better. stronger, more deserved to live in this planet? For once, think about the others like a true christian should, do what jesus would`ve done and give him you`re hand.

    Yes, i`,m drawing the conclusion that you are white male christian, age 20-40. No one on this planet hates fellow humanbeing like white male christian. That`s the exact opposite of what JC told you to do by his own example. But no, you are just better, if they aren`t what you want us to be, you just rather kill us all. Let God sort out the wicked, nice view, mate..
  74. Profile photo of CreamK
    CreamK Male 40-49
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    October 28, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    And i totally overkilled that last one.. I just hate this poo. Did you know, the most powerful unit in the Spartan army was a group of homos? They decimated the opponent, they were ruthless.

    I bet you are just afraid you turn to "one of them", a classic freudian slip.
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    kangoala Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    I found myself in almost the exact same situation in high school. Well, except the outcome wasn`t in the bully`s favor. Straight or not, he found himself at the bottom of the social totem pole very very quickly after that :D

    Lesson? Learn to defend yourself! Bullies will ALWAYS find something to attack you for. So make sure you know how to defend yourself.
  76. Profile photo of QueenZira
    QueenZira Female 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 9:11 pm
    Thanks Markust! Always glad to be of help. ;-)
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    RyanHake Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 9:18 pm
    Seriously? They just watched?! I would`ve knocked his ass out.
  78. Profile photo of Chaosmaster
    Chaosmaster Male 30-39
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    October 28, 2011 at 9:26 pm
    This is called assault and battery. The video is all the evidence needed to punish this kid to the full extent of the law. Set an example for everyone else and send that ass to prison.
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    PacoP42 Male 13-17
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    October 28, 2011 at 9:43 pm
    unprovoked? bully sounds like a real jackass
  80. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    October 28, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @ CreamK - would you like a valium?
  81. Profile photo of xCYBERDYNEx
    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    October 28, 2011 at 10:54 pm
    Clearly the bully is a closeted homosexual.
  82. Profile photo of Buiadh
    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2011 at 1:38 am
    That`s awfull. :/
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    kummi90 Male 18-29
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    October 29, 2011 at 4:59 am
    I think I`m gonna start a Self Defense School for LGBT
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    andybme Male 50-59
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    October 29, 2011 at 5:54 am
    3 day suspension? His mother is right for pursuing charges. Assault and battery if you ask me.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2011 at 6:40 am
    that kid needs to go to jail...
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2011 at 6:42 am
    also, it is the epitome of a hate crime...and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law as such.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    October 29, 2011 at 6:50 am
    Holy crap ! :S.. it`s one thing to hit a person.. but to beat the living poo out of someone that`s lying defenceless on the ground ?!?.. he should go to jail for a long time !..
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    angelo0317 Male 18-29
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    October 29, 2011 at 8:16 am
    Hey punk bully! Pick battles that are difficult to matter, not just easy to win.
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    Javabean2 Male 18-29
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    October 29, 2011 at 8:21 am
    Definatly needs to get banged up.
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    joecorso37 Male 18-29
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    October 29, 2011 at 9:09 am
    I hope that idiot who beat him goes to jail and becomes someone`s girlfriend.
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    jammin99 Male 30-39
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    October 29, 2011 at 10:20 am
    I must admit. I like to bully the bullies. Had I been in that room I would have told that dick that if he did anything to that kid I would kick every single one of his teeth down his throat. Does that make me just as bad? idk but i will help defend someone getting beat for no reason.
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
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    October 29, 2011 at 10:25 am
    That bully should be in the juvie for this, no way is he getting away with this.
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    PtblDuffy Male 18-29
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    October 29, 2011 at 11:42 am
    obviously the school`s policies are too lenient. this was in a classroom between classes, according to news stories, with teachers right outside. The fact that he waited for him, with no fear of getting caught, shows he knew there would be easy consequences, and thats sad...
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
    1341 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    I spent most of my life in school defending bully victims. Got me in a lot of fights but I don`t regret it a bit.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    Angillion et. al, quite the opposite in fact. Hate crime laws prosecute an offender for hate/bias motivated crimes, crimes that are meant to send a message to the victimized groups. A message of intimidation, "If this is who you are and you`re out there, THIS is gonna happen to you next." It is *based* on equal protection for all.

    Obviously, it isn`t. Equal protection for all requires equal protection for all, not greater protection for people in selected groups.

    Alternatively, it`s thoughtcrime because you`re imposing additional punishment because of what the perp thought.

    And if you keep insisting that motive doesn`t matter in criminal cases, then you have to explain why Manslaughter is different from Murder in the 3rd Degree w/o consideration of it.

    And you have to explain why the *same* crime is worse against people in some groups than against others.
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    darknetix Male 18-29
    15 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 3:58 pm
    Ha ha! I hope they beat all those little queers down!
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    darknetix Male 18-29
    15 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 3:59 pm
    I wish I could shake this guy`s hand.
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
    582 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    @QueenZira

    You`re absolutely right. The reason hate crimes SHOULD come with a higher punishment is that they are not just directed personally toward the individual, but to the entire minority.

    "Obviously, it isn`t. Equal protection for all requires equal protection for all, not greater protection for people in selected groups."

    Angillion, that`s so ass-backwards. We should protect bullies and their victims equally? As soon as hate groups start being persecuted violently by their victims, then the law has the responsibility to protect them. As it stands, that isn`t the case.

    Look back at racism decades ago when law and politics turned the other cheek, protecting KKK from retribution for their hate crimes. Interracial relations are still effected today.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 7:12 pm
    Thanks for further elucidating my post Obhwfgirl, sometimes I can`t tell if Angilion really is that dense or is just trollin`.

    I, for one, am still anxiously waiting for him to put 2&2 together on the Manslaughter/3rd Degree Murder brain teaser I just saw him avoid outright.

    The epic saga of Angilion vs. The Legal System is curiously missing that bit.
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    Nillows Male 13-17
    15 posts
    October 29, 2011 at 7:50 pm
    ah, 240p....we meet again
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 30, 2011 at 7:14 am
    "Obviously, it isn`t. Equal protection for all requires equal protection for all, not greater protection for people in selected groups."

    Angillion, that`s so ass-backwards. We should protect bullies and their victims equally? As soon as hate groups start being persecuted violently by their victims, then the law has the responsibility to protect them. As it stands, that isn`t the case.

    Look back at racism decades ago when law and politics turned the other cheek, protecting KKK from retribution for their hate crimes. Interracial relations are still effected today.

    Are you seriously presenting that as a valid interpretation of my post?

    It would make more sense as an interpretation of your position.

    You are arguing that law and politics should assign a higher status to people in certain groups.

    I am arguing against that idea.

    I think you`re projecting your own thought processes onto me.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    October 30, 2011 at 7:22 am
    I, for one, am still anxiously waiting for him to put 2&2 together on the Manslaughter/3rd Degree Murder brain teaser I just saw him avoid outright.

    The epic saga of Angilion vs. The Legal System is curiously missing that bit.

    I`m not falling for your pretence that "motive" and "membership of a government-approved group" are the same thing.

    If you want me to answer your question predicated on the assumption that they are the same thing, you`ll first have to convince me that they are the same thing.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    October 30, 2011 at 9:17 am
    @Angilion,

    First, thanks for the guidelines to the use of the apostrophe.

    Secondly, are you arguing that motive shouldn`t count?
    for me it does, if i see someone beating the crap out of his kid, and i ask that person why and he gives me two answers:

    1: the kid got drunk, "borrowed" the car and nearly killed himself and or someone else.

    2: because the parent got drunk and thought his kid made a smartass comment.

    in case one, whilst beating the crap out of your kid might not be the best way, i could completely understand the parent.

    in case two, i would be very much inclined to beat the crap out of the parent, and show the kid which number to call to get out of that situation.

    Not all crimes are equal, therefore not all punishment should be equal.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    October 30, 2011 at 10:34 am
    "Government approved group" you say, and yet this distinction does not exist.

    If a vandalized church was discovered somewhere with the message, "Str8 wyte male Krisshuns get out," scrawled in pig`s blood on the altar, then the perpetrators, no matter who they were, would be charged with a Hate crime.

    To translate the legalese into the common vernacular- "Targeting & terrorizing *any* class of people is not cool bro."
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    bordo Male 50-59
    907 posts
    October 30, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    If a vandalized church was discovered somewhere with the message, "Str8 wyte male Krisshuns get out," scrawled in pig`s blood on the altar, then the perpetrators, no matter who they were, would be charged with a Hate crime.

    If you really think they would be charged with hate crime, you are so naive.
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    QueenZira Female 18-29
    2228 posts
    October 30, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    V If you really think not then you must be so old and dedicated to Faux Noise.
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    yoda141 Male 18-29
    266 posts
    November 3, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    You know what`s the worst thing? then gay kids like this one kill themselves, and primitive homophobics attribute that to homosexuality itself rather than the social backlash they bring onto them.
    The bully is a less-obvious victim though: it takes parents to teach guys how to hate, or let go of any intolerance. Religion is indeed child abuse.

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