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    meneado Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Link: The Real Reason You Get Sick - If only I had known The Man was behind all this sickness...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    the link doesn`t work.
    `The Man` doesn`t want us to know!
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    Danimal91 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    The link is broken
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    HI-haole Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    Error 404
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    Dreamstarr77 Female 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    Broken links are the top cause of illness folks you learned it here first ! :p
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    Dylan5121 Male 13-17
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    broken link :(
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    Please don`t let this turn into a socialized medicine flame war, please don`t let this turn into a socialized medicine flame war, please please PLEASE.
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    MrHoobToYou Male 40-49
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:47 pm
    It`s funny cuz it`s true.
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    NotHerAgain Female 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    It works for me. Suckaaaas!
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    200,000 deaths per year from hospital errors? I`m saying BS to that. What`s their source on this???
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    tvremote Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:55 pm
    That read as though it was written by a child doing a school project. Tired interns working too long? Solution: shorten their work hours! Mistakes in medical records? Solution: Make fewer mistakes!

    Also I love /sarcasm/ when things like this come out and suddenly everyone is an expert on US healthcare.
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    AngryAsian Male 13-17
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    works for me.... dunno why everyone is saying that.
    i wouldnt doubt that some of this is true, but im not sure all of it is true, and once again, CITE PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    September 16, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    get an immune system and never have to go to the hospital.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    Yay! Medical errors keep me employed!
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    The system is messed up.

    The hospital is a business, like just about everything else over there.

    Corporation: An ingenious device for obtaining individual profit without individual responsibility.
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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    I wouldn`t doubt it; I drating hate hospitals. I`m in one about 7 times a year because of seizure related problems.
    Every time I go; I expect a caring doctor.
    I go in and I`m just another dumbass problem to ruin the doctors day.
    the first time I went, I had a seizure and had a car accident 5 hours away from anyone I knew. instead of keeping me in a bed; they made me wait in the waiting room for 4 of those hours for someone to pick me up.
    my hospital bill for that one time was 2,500$ for an hour in a bed and a doctor to tell me, `you`re fine`.
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    AnImbroglio Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:16 pm
    This is so freaking stupid. "Yeah, that`s it! Let`s just never go to the hospital because bad stuff happens there! Nevermind all the lives that are saved, diseases cured, or illnesses prevented! They kill people, man!" Brilliant, folks. Quit being sheep for two seconds.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    Silly graphic.
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    Kegomatix Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:33 pm
    @Cyborg It isn`t really that simple. I had to use the hospital for a major problem for the first time in my life last month. I had a serious hip injury and in order to get back to what I was doing in the Army I had to either get it surgically repaired or re-class to another MOS. I opted for the surgery, as I would really like to get back on course with my career. Only problem is that my left leg (surgery side) is now an inch and a quarter longer than my right leg!! FML! This usually only happens in hip replacement surgery, but I only had reconstructive hip surgery but somewhere in all the screws they added and whatever else they did they messed it up.... *sigh*
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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:38 pm
    @anImbrogilio- You are the moron here sir; you have no argument against this. So instead of saying something intelligent, you make a simple rhetorical statement of what you think people are saying.
    No one said "don`t go to hospitals" it is an attempt to raise awareness of how drated up our medical system is. Do you really think doctors cry after a patient dies like in those soap opera dramas?
    Fu/ck no, they go on about their day and sleep just fine at night because that dead patient is just another penny added to their paycheck.

    you are the sheeple here.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    Thats just silly stats
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    Wildcats2008 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    1. The agenda is very clear in this post.

    2. Subushie, if you were in the emergency room, were treated and expected them to keep you in a room until someone could come get you? What kind of fantasy world do you live in? They made you sit in the waiting room after you were treated because they needed the room (and bed) for the next person.

    If you had to wait before you were treated then they probably had people who were sicker and/or more injured then you were.

    The Emergency Department is run by a TRIAGE system where the sickest and the most injured go first. Not first come first serve.
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    Deviros Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 3:22 pm
    So - one out of every 300 people die from hospital error.

    35million+ people are admitted to the hospital every year (american hospital assoc.)

    Therefore, ~115,000 people die every year from hospital error.

    That means - every year - .33% of people who are admitted die from something unrelated to their illness. 115K out of 35MILLION. Not bad odds - considering you were probably gonna die if you didn`t go in there.

    Also - that stat is actually from the UK - 1 in 300 - The Guardian not the U.S.

    Guess what? You`re more likely to die from almost anything else than a plane crash! Terrible statistic!

    I can make infographics too:
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    ppodgajci Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    I would rather go to Cuba to hospital.

    Hell, I would rather go to Cuba than the United States which are in America for anything.
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    scuzzy Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    subushi - I`m a doctor and I can tell you that when I have a patient pass away, I don`t just "go about my day" just fine and I definitely don`t sleep well that night. I`m sorry that you think physicians are so calloused.

    Regarding the image: At least at my institution, all of those "solutions" have already been implemented; intern hours are restricted to 16 hours (new ACGME requirements), hand washing is above 90%, we have a "bare below the elbows" dress code, have electronic medical records, and all residents receive hand-off training. Some of these changes are new so we`ll see what kind of effect they have on nosocomial infection rates, medical mistake rates, etc.
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    @Deviros: That was awesome. Nice work.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    September 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    concerning the medical records part, its interesting that by presidential order the medical transcription profession has essentially been abolished. i transcribed doctors` dictation for 30+ years and took great pride in my high accuracy ratings, every day and every patient. but now that doctors are doing their own records on blackberry`s and ipads i wonder if the accuracy ratings are as high. when i found something that i thought was an error i flagged it for the doctor to double check before signing and charting. are there still checks and balances like that? i wonder. and i miss my job; i learned something new nearly every single shift i worked.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
    515 posts
    September 16, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    All Hospitals care about is getting as many people in and out as quickly as possible so they can make more money. The more pts they can squeeze in the more money they make. Sadly pt care is less of a priority.
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    FeelTheRide Female 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    Also...not sure I believe all the stats.
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    Deviros Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:09 pm
    Thanks Jasonbobdude =D
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:13 pm
    I do rather enjoy the fact that they put citiations. Very good work. Now keep this poo to yourself. Or make another list that covers how many people die that REFUSE to goto a hospital (Micheal Criton anyone?)or maybe those misguided sheep that pray over a body that has their jugular cut hoping to GOD (read: the air) that some invisible force that has never proven to do anything will suddenly stop the bleeding.

    Hospitals may not be safe, but it is safer than not going to one.

    Citiation: MY Fvucking ANGER
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:21 pm
    The comparison is false. The correct comparison is not "hospital deaths" versus zero deaths, but "hospital deaths" versus "deaths that would occur if there were no hospitals".
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    danky Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:44 pm
    YEAH! F*ck hospitals?
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    dragosal Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:45 pm
    i cant say i agree 100% but there are 3 hospitals within 30 miles of me and all 3 of them are corpse factories because they dont know what they are doing
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    MCMXCIII Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    People, please. True, it`s not possible to prevent deaths in hospitals; but the US ranks LAST in 19 developed countries surveyed. Does that ring any bell for you?
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    September 16, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    I think the most important comparison is "Number of hospital acquired infections that lead to death": Europe 1 out of 122 vs USA 1/17. Too bad that was the only real comparison but i`m sure that in other areas the figures are similar. Way to go.. Still think free healthcare for all citizens is a bad thing? And just think, US has ALL the necessary resources to correct this instantly but no... IT`S COMMUNISM!!!!
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    EvilBigHead Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 6:48 pm
    I`ll take my chances in a hospital. I have a better chance of living with their help than without.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 7:27 pm
    I don`t like being reminded of my own frail mortality :(
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    Moosh Female 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:05 pm
    I think we should let babies eat more bugs and dirt when they are little.
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    DShephard Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    I`m sick with something fierce at the moment.

    Cough syrup is possibly the worst thing ever invented by man for medicinal purposes ever.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:22 pm
    You know that infamous "Doctor`s handwriting?"

    It tends to get worse in hospitals.

    And I know someone who damn near got overdosed because the doctor just scribbled the numbers of her prescription. Luckily, she remembered the amount the doctor had SAID, then read the bottle and saw the difference.

    I hate hospitals anyway. Why? Because they`re for-profit businesses, which means they don`t give a damn about the people.

    Maybe a few doctors and nurses are nice, but as a whole, the entire medical system in the US prefers to treat people as "clients" and "money cows," not patients.

    The profit motive is the reason America`s health system is so f*cked up. They want to cut MONETARY costs, without caring about the LIVES it costs.

    That, or they want to prescribe us pill after pill after expensive pill to make us pay for all these things we "need," so they can get kick-backs from the pharmaceutical compan
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    As for people asking for sources...

    READ THE BOTTOM. It cites all the sources RIGHT THERE, MORONS.

    Also, I`ve had a few family members die from infections that they contracted in the hospital. Nice cleaning job there. The investors cut your budget for anti-bacterial soap?
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    Wow, this is the most biased survey I`ve ever seen.
    Medical Errors - I take it this isn`t from something simple like recognizing when someone is in V-fib, and more along the lines of intense surgery. Humans aren`t 100% accurate, and if you think you can do better then trained professionals, go ahead.
    Infections - No poo more people die to infections than car accidents, breast cancer and aids. It`s far easier to get an infection, moron.
    Sanitation - You show me where you got your 26% hand washing before entering ICU stat. I guarantee that stat isn`t true across the nation. Hospital staff actually pays attention to things like that.
    Record Keeping - Death from being prescribed "too much". Doctors don`t just prescribe "too much" of dangerous medicines. More than likely, you were too old or too sick and it was his best shot.
    Ranked 19 - We have some of the most expensive health care, which means only the sickest, and most morbid people wind up in hos
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:52 pm
    hospitals. Add in our clinics to the statistic and I bet you we skyrocket up that chart. Flawed survey is flawed. Don`t believe everything you`re told kids. This may be true for a few hospitals, but as a national average, yeah right.
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    MelCervini Female 40-49
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    September 16, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    The medical community is responsible for more deaths a year than guns AND automobiles combined, and they RUN this country....why???
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    theboredomat Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    But are those credible sources? Don`t believe everything ever written. Especially a news site.

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    Justahuman Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 11:46 pm
    These sources are never credible.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2011 at 2:15 am
    most of this is total BS.

    I am a MFT and work in a SoCal ER. years ago hospitals regulated the hours a doctor can work to a reasonable number. There are also hand washing stations EVEYWHERE and each time any of us leave a patients room or enter a new part of the hospital we are required to sanitize our hands...and trust me, everyone does it if for any reason to avoid getting sick themselves.

    Scrubs are changed throughout the day if they get any bodily fluids on them or if there is a chance that a sick patient came into contact with them.

    are hospitals perfect? No. Do people still get sick at hospitals because of infectious diseases in the air? Yes.

    BUT, if you require medical attention you would be an idiot not to go to a hospital.

    also, the very reason that hospitals keep stays as short as possible is not as most people think because insurance won`t cover it but because they want to limit exposure.

    also, our record keepi
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2011 at 2:21 am

    you are a complete and total moronic kid. I work in an ER and before you degrade the heroic efforts that I see doctors and nurses performing on a daily basis to save the lives of everyone that comes in there you stfu and learn something little boy.

    As I said I work in an ER and have watched doctors many times breakdown and cry after losing a patient, often a small child, or after having to go out and tell a family they tried but failed to save their father, mothers, etc life.

    you sound like nothing more than a self-entitled non-nice individual who thinks they are right about eveything yet has few friends and most likely jobless or in a dead end crappy meaningless job that contributes jack poo to the community.

    you sir can go drat yourself. I am sure you can uncensored this and get my meaning in your little head.
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    HOBYandy Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2011 at 2:25 am
    Also, why do none of these ever state their sources in accordance to a style guide? Obvious bias.
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    Enjin Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2011 at 3:53 am
    Wow if things are really this bad I shudder to think what things will be like when the US government is in control of healthcare. You guys are screwed.
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    smalltowngrl Female 18-29
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    September 17, 2011 at 7:30 am
    And I`m having surgery in December........ I`m gonna die.......... :/
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2011 at 11:14 am
    These "infographs" are always full of misinformation and obvious bias. Stop posting them here, they`re making the IAB population more ignorant.
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    Yap71 Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2011 at 5:54 pm
    This is broken for me, dose anyone have a link?
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2011 at 6:25 pm
    @Enjin- you obviously don`t know anything about the healthcare reform bill, because it does not, in any way, put the US government "in control of healthcare." The bill reforms health insurance, not healthcare delivery, aside from a relatively small amount of funding for community clinics. The government will not own or administer a single hospital as a result of the bill. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to criticize the US`s healthcare reform bill, but I`m goddamn sick of hearing it called a "complete government takeover of healthcare," because that`s not even close to what it actually is.
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    Coolhandluke Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2011 at 8:57 pm
    I don`t even believe this they probably are twisting the statistics or flat out making them up.
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    mntlmstrbtr Male 30-39
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    September 17, 2011 at 11:58 pm
    this is old, skewed data.
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    Tinrac Male 18-29
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    September 18, 2011 at 7:48 am
    pretty sure your chances of dying in a plane crash is in the 90% field. The chances of being IN a plane crash may be 1 in 10m.
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    Panicdevil Female 13-17
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    September 18, 2011 at 11:55 am
    I`m reading this as I have a really bad cold that I caught at the hospital. Wonderful xD

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