Man Dies From Toothache, No Big Deal, Right?

Submitted by: 3MM@ 5 years ago
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/insurance-24-year-dies-toothache/story?id=14438171

We"ll things like this might happen more and more if America"s unemployment level rises. I hope Obama"s job plan works.
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Male 1,164
I support Kalimata.

I think Americans are most disgusted with the fact that their taxes would go to pay for someone else`s medical needs. I would gladly let some of my taxes go to making sure the people I share this land with stay healthy. I may not use the healthcare system enough to get my personal moneys worth, but in the long run it`s worth it.

You probably see it like mandatory gratuities. I see it more like raising our standard of health.
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Male 4,902
Diagnosed with an infection, he chooses pain medication over anti biotics!
F*cking moron.
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Male 661
I have trouble understanding the all out freakfest that some are having over the prospect of a government provided health care system.

It`s either one extreme or the other for some of you. You can have social aid networks without becoming the Soviet Union for Buddha`s sake. Seriously, providing care for everyone is not a bad thing.
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Male 881
I will never understand the Conservative point of view on this. They are fanatically patriotic, but feel that you are responsible for only yourself. The whole purpose of a country is that it can better protect and provide for its citizens than individual states. States are better at it than individual cities, and cities better than single family homes, and families better than individuals.

We have failed when the least powerful among us are denied their very lives.
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Male 1,511
I pay for my own health insurance (I`m self-employed). It`s only $79/month.
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Male 1,511
When I became unemployed, I bought my own private health insurance. It`s called being responsible. Also, Rx antibiotics are $5 at Walmart. Also, health insurance usually doesn`t include dental coverage. Also, he probably had an iPhone which he made sure to pay each month.
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Female 1,205
I totally support socialism. If it were easier to immigrate to Great Britain, or Finland I would. This is just awful...and while he did seem to make a stupid choice in getting the pain meds, I can`t say I blame him. Antibiotics are often expensive. Perhaps the antibiotics were more expensive than the pain meds. It`s easy to judge when you aren`t in this kind of situation.
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Female 4,039
Should say man dies of infection by choosing pain killer over antibiotic.
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Male 2,592
I`m getting mine pulled at a university dental school for around $110 including x-rays and all that. My pain meds were only around 20 to hold me over till my appointment, and certain places sell antibiotics for $5. All with no dental insurance. No its not free but it`s not outrageous either. A minimum wage worker can afford that. Which means get a damn job.
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Male 546
Being a little socialist is like being a little pregnant, isn`t it? You either are or you are not.

Thank you for your ideas and with all due respect to your beliefs I don`t think we want to be Europe or Canada. Oh... and I hope we never will.

With all due respect.
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Female 779
I don`t understand how the sentiment of NOT being a socialist over shadows the obvious need for a semi-socialist state. Historically a happy healthy population adds more to the overall economy because they are able to work, pay taxes, pay off debts, etc.

America really needs to take some inspiration from Europe and Canada, because at least in Canada right now, our debt is a minor hiccup compared to the American recession. Oh an we don`t die of drating tooth infections, and the cost to get that fixed is less that $100
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Male 174
@OldOllie: I agree. Just because the current system let a few honest people die in pain in order to save a few bucks it doesn`t mean that we should become a socialist country.

It`s a reminder to people that they better work hard and become a congressman if they want good healthcare.
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Male 546
... This is the reason that we should have Government run healthcare.

In fact the government should make all decisions for us, and take care of us. We shouldn`t have to work, or cook our meals, or raise our children, or pay electricity bills. God forbid, someone might die without their electricity.

Oh... and pay my car expenses, and deliver groceries, mow the yard of the house the Government provides to me.

Then, we can all be equal, and enjoy life as the Government intended.

Thank you for this story, and I am sorry he had to suffer to save us all.

Peace and Love....
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Female 407
@ abrxax I have been there. I miscarried in December of 2009, and because I began hemorrhaging so badly went to the emergency room though I had no medical insurance. They put a port into my veins but never hooked me up to an IV. The ran tons of diagnostic tests and sent me home with nothing more than a sympathetic pat on the back and the feeling that I had done nothing more than waste four hours of my life. When the bill arrived ($8,000), I nearly shat myself. $8,000 to be told that nature would have to take it`s course and I would have to heal (physically and mentally) on my own.
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Male 554
The Canadian Health Care System doesn`t look so bad now does it.
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Female 4,086
i always thought this was an urban myth until i typed records on a guy with the same problem. he was in ICU in a coma for ages; not sure if he survived either.
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Male 49
I`m sorry, but who in his right mind would choose pain killers over antibiotics?
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Male 2,586
America: If you can`t afford the healthcare... We`ll let you die

NHS FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Male 1,258
There is no excuse for this. There are free dental clinics in Cincinnati just like every other major city in America. There are also dental colleges that do work for free. Many gorcery stores and drug stores are competing with free or less than $5 prescriptions. If that isn`t enough, there are plenty of churches in the area that would help someone like this.

There is no right to health care or any other service for that matter. He could have gotten free care from those who openly volunteer it. He was too stupid to ask for help and paid the price.

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Female 30
Well, poo. I haven`t brushed my teeth in years. Maybe I should start.
Naaah.
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Male 1,623
"how sad... when people in the first world die from tooth infection."

USA is a first world country?
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Male 1,678
"But ya couldn`t he have gone to the ER?"

"Not only was he seen in a hospital with no money, he could have gotten his antibiotics for little or no money."

"He could have gone to any emergency room, been seen by a doctor, and gotten a prescription."

From the article:

"When his face started swelling and his head began to ache, Willis went to the emergency room, where he received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications. Willis COULDN`T AFFORD both"

FFS, if you`re too lazy to read the article then don`t comment on it. You`re opinion is worthless.
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Male 75
There is more dignity getting robbed at gun point. At least you know what they want.
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Male 75
Anny one ever gone to an American ER with out money or health insurance. Firs you get a bill from the ER. Then you get a bill from the DR. Then you get a bill form the nurse. Got tests done. Thats a separate bill. all told your in the hole for 5 to 6 thousand $$. Ever look at a insurance statement? The ER billed $1,000. Blue cross pays.....$200 Dr billed $2,000 for setting the bone. Blue cross pays......$800 But goddamnit that Dr wants all of his $2,000 from you. He and his office will make sure that you can`t get a good job cause they will destroy your credit rating. They will sue you to get it. Thats what min wage gets you. Too rich for help but too poor to pay. And that antibiotic was more like $300-500 range. Pain killers are cheap. 30 day supply of generic hydrocodone is like $20-30
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Male 317
We will things like this happen more and more..?
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Male 1,629
80$ for an impacted tooth removal? I WISH! the dentists around me are drating pirates. they want 300$ a tooth
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Male 675
A 40% higher risk of death if you don`t have health insurance... I always thought death was inevitable no matter who you are. Huh, go figure. :\
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Male 1,920
Sorry but this guy died from ignorance, not a lack of medical care.

"When his face started swelling and his head began to ache, Willis went to the emergency room, where he received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications."

Not only was he seen in a hospital with no money, he could have gotten his antibiotics for little or no money.

As for his need for dental surgery, most dental schools will see people for little or no money.
Granted they will be treated by dental students, but it is always under the supervision of experienced dental professors, and the work will be checked by more than one person. When I was 19, I worked as a dishwasher, and had no insurance. I had an impacted wisdom tooth removed as well as had a root canal on the tooth in front of it done for free at a dental school.
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Male 5,190
That`s really sad. But ya couldn`t he have gone to the ER?
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Male 2
If you don`t have poo when it come to health coverage, and you know you have a tooth that hurts like drating hell, would`t you grab a pliers and pull the damn thing out. It would be cheaper in the long run to replace a tooth vs. the doc`s fee, antibiotics, and pain relievers combined.

BTW Old Ollie, you can`t get $5 prescriptions from
Wal-mart in all states. Some require a pharmacist owned pharmacy.
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Female 833
even in a country with national healthcare we have to ay for dental treatment. it`s subsidised, but still can become expensive AND not everyone can find a dentist who will offer the subsidised service. I know people here who avoid the dentist as they see it as an uneccesary expense!
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Male 5,413
Damn :/
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Male 1,803
Why the hell can`t this site cope with the euro character, that`s rubbish, one of the worlds major currencies...
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Male 1,803
I pay €305 (that`s $416 USD/CAD, £262) a month for my healthcare here in Germany. It`s outstanding (but at that price it bloody well better had be). They force me to go for a dental check up every 6 months (or face increasing premiums if I don`t), but the rest of it is great. You`d think. But no.

The bad news; went to my dentist recently, I`m new to him so he xrayed my teeth, and claimed one of them had a cavity that needed sorting out. My arse. Nobody has ever said that before, and they`d been xrayed by a dental professor for something else about 3 months before. He was trying it on, to get me to have unnecessary treatment.
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Male 25,416
wow.. thats sad
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Male 15,832
I think it`s pretty sick of liberals to exploit this tragedy to justify a government takeover of the health care industry. He could have gone to any emergency room, been seen by a doctor, and gotten a prescription. Wal-mart will fill prescriptions for most antibiotics for $5.

My question, though, is not whether he was really too poor to afford a free doctor, but what else did he spend his money on. I`d wager he had a large flat-screen TV with cable, a smart phone, and a car that`s newer than mine.

We all make choices -- some better than others.
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Male 14,775
Don`t worry, Bazza fixed this by taxing the poor and bankrupting the nation.
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Female 1,356
how sad... when people in the first world die from tooth infection.
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Male 150
Whats that? i cant hear you over the sound
of my free healthcare. Just kidding, nobodies health care is perfect, even up here in Canada we could use some improvement, i think we can all take a hint from European countries.
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Female 3,562
Rawg, maybe the goverment wouldn`t go bankrupt if we tax an extra 5% of the kind of people in yacht cluns.
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Male 2,085
Every drug company has programs to help people who can not afford medicine, plus many doctors have oodles of samples to give.
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Male 1,418
If given the choice between painkillers and antibiotics, TAKE the antibiotics. Sure you will still hurt like a mofo, but after the meds are done, the infection will be gone as will the pain. Dental and prescriptions aren`t covered by our medicare either, but antibiotics and tons`o`ibuprofen worked for me when mine started swelling up a couple months ago.
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Male 61
when wil you guys learn from canada!!!
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Male 17,512
Seriously ? Amoxicillin or Cephalexin does not really cost that much. and a bottle of Benzocaine for the pain is maybe $8.
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Male 934
Yes, universal healthcare would`ve saved him until it bankrupts our government and then everyone`s screwed.
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Male 2,402
Aside from Marijuana as a pain killer. Here is how to make a natural Penicillin tea that does work.

Just for IAB FYI or take it or leave it.

http://preparedcitizenwsg.blogspot.com/2011/03/how-to-make-penicillin-tea.html
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Male 2,402
This is National news!? Crap I have heard this kind of story almost 2 or 3 times a year from friends who knew such. This has been happening for decades.
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Male 1,053
First off, he didn`t die from a toothache. He died from an infection.

Secondly, where I live, several local grocery chains will fill generic antibiotic prescriptions for FREE. Granted that may not be everywhere and not everyone may know about it, but a totally needless death either way.

Most people don`t realize that poor dental health can actually lead to heart problems!
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Female 50
Have to say that I do love the NHS - it is by no means perfect, but it`s something.
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Male 200
What a sad story..

The two common antibiotics used to treat this type of infection are penicillin or Clindamycin. PCN is very cheap even without insurance, but the Clindamycin is not. i suspect that he was allergic to PCN and had to go with the Clindamycin.

This should not have happend..
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Male 10,845
[quote]I hope Obama`s job plan works.[/quote]


<SPOILER ALERT>







IT WON`T!
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Male 620
" he received prescriptions for antibiotics and pain medications. Willis couldn`t afford both, so he chose the pain medications."

welp.


Also, It could have been taken care of and have arranged $5/month token payments until he could afford more.


Sucks the dudes dead, but just sayin.. Should have opted for the antibiotics over the painmeds.
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Female 256
Link: Man Dies From Toothache, No Big Deal, Right? [Rate Link] - We`ll things like this might happen more and more if America`s unemployment level rises. I hope Obama`s job plan works.
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