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    fancylad Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:12 am
    Link: Its Official: Kids Are Dumber Than Ever - Average scores on the SAT fell across the nation this year. Reading scores for the class of 2011 is the lowest on record
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:20 am
    it`s all that hippity-hop music and marijuana cigarettes that`s making kids dumb. oh, and that MTV too!
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    Baelzar Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:22 am
    Clearly we need to expand the Department of Education and give Public Education more money.

    Just ask Matt Damon.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:24 am
    `clicky-clicky` isn`t working there fancy.

    Or is that a stunt to demonstrate how dumb you think we are ?
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:24 am
    clicky-clicky no worky
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:25 am
    this is not a coincidence, this is by design.
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    nettech98 Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:25 am
    Reading scores for the class of 2011 ARE the lowest on record...

    I guess writing is suffering too....
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:25 am
    I will have to take your word for it
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:43 am
    whats the surprise to this? why is this news to anyone?

    we have pooty teachers, schools, the parents AND the kids are acting fools and society itself is burning alive...

    move onto something like world hunger please
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:47 am
    "Clearly we need to expand the Department of Education and give Public Education more money.

    Just ask Matt Damon."

    took me a full 5 minutes to remember what the hell you were talking about...
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:48 am

    No, kids are not dumber.

    Yet again we see evidence the school system has failed us.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:49 am
    MURICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
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    Lillim Female 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:57 am
    Plus, with autocorrect and text speak, no one is really having to learn how to spell. Is anyone surprised? Not I.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    The Dept. of Education was founded with the goal of making Americans 99% literate. Literacy rates are lower now than they were then, I believe it`s time we get rid of it and try something new.
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    ggolbez Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    Teachers should teach information, they shouldn`t teach a test.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    This is what happens when you stick your kids in a room for eight hours a day and attempt to teach them stupid sh*t they don`t care about.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    "This is what happens when you stick your kids in a room for eight hours a day and attempt to teach them stupid sh*t they don`t care about."

    SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    In Vancouver, most of the children entering school as ESL and in need of remedial English were born here! I call that irresponsible parenting, as I would raising a child in an atmosphere where most of the mothers are single high school dropouts on welfare. Let`s put at least some of the blame where it belongs.
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    username3415 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    Some girl at this college computer lab asked me the other day, "Do you know anything about Microscopic Works?"
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    Orchideous Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    Lets put the blame on bieber...
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    BJH515 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    A few years ago when I took the ACT (Basically the Midwest version of the SAT) despite being a great student, I somehow did poorly on the written portion of the exam. I`d say that it`s not necessarily that "kids are dumber", but that we keep trying to hold every generation up to the standards of the last one, when there have been massive changes to our educational system in the decade.
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    gcghost Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    "This is what happens when you stick your kids in a room for eight hours a day and attempt to teach them stupid sh*t they don`t care about."

    No. This is what happens when kids are too dumb to realize the value of an education.
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    @BJH515: So we should just lower our standards? Shouldn`t they be going up instead?
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    September 15, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    The average reading score fell THREE POINTS?!

    OMFG!!!!!!! You poor kids today, everyone calling you fat and now on top of it, you`re three points more stupid in reading. I feel bad for you all.
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    Hiromi Female 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    I`m the class of `11 and my reading scores were advanced.
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    DiePSPolice Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    @Solvent "This is what happens when you stick your kids in a room for eight hours a day and attempt to teach them stupid sh*t they don`t care about."

    No, this is what happens when you have students that don`t have the willpower or mindset to work hard and study stuff they don`t care about, even if it`s important.

    Listen up, kids: the world is globalized now, and kids in Asia don`t want to live in poverty anymore, so they have a better work ethic and they`re studying harder and "stealing" your jobs, because they can do the work better and cheaper because they studied "stupid sh*t" instead of hanging out on i-a-b or youtube or facebook.

    Life is hard. You have to work hard to compete, and you are competing with a world of very motivated people.

    In other news: this is pathetic. My combined score on the SAT was higher than the average today... but the high score for the SAT when I took it was 1600, not 2400.
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    crash665 Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    .... and college football is more popular than ever! Coincidence?
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    September 15, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    "Even as average scores decline, the number of high scores is growing: in math, the number of students who scored at least 700 on the 800-point test has increased more than 20 percent since 2007."

    Second to last paragraph. This article is retarded.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 2:04 pm
    And all that has happened is the taking of spanking and more video games
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    lukas1051 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 2:10 pm
    I don`t see what was wrong with the original headline that you click to read the article thing. At least get rid of the *clicky-clicky* thing, it just looks stupid, put some sort of watermark thing on (like the play logo on videos).
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    September 15, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    i didn`t need an article to tell me that
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    Yosemine Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    I took the SAT last year. The reading part has a section with vocabulary words almost nobody ever uses, and that few will understand. Stupid, in my opinion. If you`ve heard of the Flynn effect you`ll know the curve for IQ tests has had to be adjusted as time goes by to keep it stable, as kids today would score significantly above 100 using the old standards. And if you argue against the second point, on some level you`re admitting that tests are not perfect indicators.

    It just bothers me when people seem to think that all kids today are stupid, and that society is one generation away from collapsing.
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    OutWest Male 50-59
    546 posts
    September 15, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    But, they have great self esteem, and are aware of gay marriage, and the environment!

    Not a bad trade-off. Don`t you think?

    Should make good citizens of the world.
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    Yosemine Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    Also would like to make this point. When I studied for my SAT I used the OFFICIAL SAT book with several real tests. When I did the math section, my scores ranged from the upper 500`s to mid 600`s depending on the test by THEIR official curve. Even though the SAT is "standardized," that does not guarantee that it is perfect. We`re looking at 3 points here, out of hundreds.
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    jonnycake63 Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 7:00 pm
    1. I don`t understand why every child has to be smart and be able to make it to college. Not everyone is equal and able to be an Engineer, Lawyer, or Doctor; we need some garbage men too.

    2. The article wrote that the writing scores have been dropping since it was introduced 6 years ago. DUH! When they first score it they have no sample to compare it too, so naturally the scores are going to be highest in the early years while they are still trying to figure out what "average" is.

    3. Standardized tests are stupid and not an indication of knowledge. If a teacher has to teach to a test how are they going to actually make learning interesting?
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    tl/dr
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    MrLill Male 18-29
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    September 15, 2011 at 10:07 pm
    People today almost need a college degree.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    September 15, 2011 at 11:19 pm
    Well this is a shock to me. After all the intelligence it takes for coning :-|
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 4:04 am
    Shocking, B-|
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:49 am
    Granted, the No Child Left Behind policy is deeply flawed. The problem runs much deeper. Parents in general do not teach their children rudimentary concepts like ethics, honor and delayed gratification, or empathy for that matter.
    Then off to daycare/preschool/kindergarten they go, where whatever whacko social theory of the day is being implemented on the kids.
    Onward(Usually) to public school where the game of tag- in many schools- is disallowed, as it is deemed harmful for their self-esteem. In short, we are depending on the educational system, that is at the mercy of ever changing political whim, to socialize children. When we talk about North Korea and places similar, we describe this as indoctrination.
    There is a curious social artifact in Industrialized Nations; Replacing living life with having a life.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 7:15 am
    The children aren`t dumber, they just aren`t beng brought up properly and as a result aren`t making use of the education they`re being offered. This is the previous generations fault, not the childrens. The article also states that there was a record amount of students scoring higher than 700, so it seems as if the students with the right values are doing even better than ever before. Encourage you`re child to learn and enforce rules, if you just say "Do your homework", most of them will, but they`ll do a half arsed job then melt their brains in front of an xbox all night.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 7:20 am
    "This is what happens when you stick your kids in a room for eight hours a day and attempt to teach them stupid sh*t they don`t care about."

    No, this is what happens when you allow your children to think the valuable education they are receiving is just "stupid poo" that they shouldn`t "care about".
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    terracottus Male 30-39
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    September 16, 2011 at 7:45 am
    @paddy215:
    Encourage your child to learn and enforce proper spelling.
    Other than that, I agree,especially on your response to solvent.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    September 16, 2011 at 8:35 am

    BJH515 " I`d say that it`s not necessarily that "kids are dumber", but that we keep trying to hold every generation up to the standards of the last one"
    Do you propose lowering the standard?
    Yes, I expect them to read and write. An ability to do math is good also. Knowledge of history is good to help give a context to world view topics.
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 9:45 am
    So our standard for "smart" is how high someone scores on a standardized test? I don`t know about that...

    If this is true, this is a problem with education and not intellectual ability. I agree with CrakrJak that the Department of Education should be abolished; we should let capitalism do to education what capitalism did to food, computers and technology, and the automobile industry.

    Also, I don`t think intelligence is strictly defined at one`s birth--I believe it is possible for one to get smarter or dumber. I think a smart person is someone who thinks and expands their mind more.
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    GreyYes Female 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    I dont know if kids are `dumber than ever` but they sure as hell are more distracted then we have ever been.
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    SuperOnion Male 18-29
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    September 16, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    I wouldn`t venture to say that we`re getting "dumber," just a lot more stressed. So many schools paint the SAT to be this ultimate life-decider of a test which determines your entire future. God help you if you do bad on your SAT`s, you might as well just give up on college and life because with those scores you`re never going anywhere. At least, that`s how it was when I was in high school.
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    Solastor Male 18-29
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    September 17, 2011 at 3:15 am
    Good thing I took the SAT in 2010. =D I`m still one of the smart ones.
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    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    September 22, 2011 at 10:07 pm
    SAT verbal scores fell this year because the test became more accessible to underprivileged students. That means more students in poo schools and more ESL students took the test, which lowered the average.

    (NPR is my source)

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