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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:18 am
    Link: Unidentified Object At The Bottom Of The Sea? - Sonar pass comes across Millennium Falcon shaped object and possible ``impact tracks`` at the bottom of the Baltic sea.
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    Elegy Male 13-17
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:35 am
    COOL. not really. I`d rather them have actually taken the time to look at what it was instead of some random guy making a video of a still-photo in different colors.
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    Stardust6702 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:36 am
    That`s no moon, its a space station.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:36 am
    At least the uploader made very clear images.. not.. can`t see poo. Really would like to know where this is, as i live on the coast of baltic sea.
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:36 am
    Made front page of a Swedish tabloid. Looks like this is serious.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:36 am
    boring video
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:39 am
    I am pretty sure that is an I-Am-Bored logo. Hard to tell though with all the sea water messing up the resolution.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:41 am
    At least the uploader made very clear images.. not.. can`t see poo. Really would like to know where this is, as i live on the coast of baltic sea.

    A little digging and yep, it`s close to my location..
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:44 am
    LOL not sure how this is considered a "UFO"
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    wowthissucks Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:45 am
    Well if that fine publication has covered the story it must be serious.
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    Cargen1022 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:45 am
    That paper kinda looks like a tabloid. Just sayin
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:52 am
    Got to love how madest is so willing to believe in UFOs, with no scientific proof, Yet he berates those of us that believe in the existence of God.

    LOL!
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    asurazero Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:53 am
    My guess....another busted bp pipe....the trail is just spurting oil with trace amounts of metal...they pay some fishermen to ping the pipe and say ufo so that ppl will instantly think nothing is there....
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    username3415 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:55 am
    top politicians have seen ufos. No one that isn`t crazy has seen God...
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:56 am
    When they do go look at it and find alien life, maybe you`ll remember writing your jaded comments here. Lets hope the aliens don`t hold a grudge against your type...

    @CJ, Bad analogy. There is scientific proof of alien life.
  16. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:57 am
    When we die and you face God on judgment day, you`ll remember writing your jaded comments here. Lets hope God don`t hold a grudge against you

    See how that works madest ?
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:01 am
    Sure it`s not the Eban Hawk?
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    darkmagic14n Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:04 am
    @CrakrJak

    why does christianity and extra-terrestrial life have to be mutually exclusive?
  19. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:08 am
    @Crakr

    It`s possible (albeit highly improbable) that we`ll meet aliens within our life as opposed to someone we can only meet AFTER we die.

    On the other hand if an object DID hit our surface it would leave a mark that would look a little more like this:
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:18 am
    Can`t be. That was in a galaxy far far away. A star gate maybe? Time Tunnel?! Perhaps its a big crock of sh it?
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    HI-haole Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:18 am
    @madest "Bad analogy. There is scientific proof of alien life."
    What kind of scientific proof is there really?...

    SHOOOWW MEEE THEEE MOOONAAAY!!!!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:18 am

    Lot of sunken war ships.
    I see a rotting gun turret.
    But of course, that`s to simple, it must be ATLANTIS!
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:20 am
    For the record, not everyone in the Midwest is an idiot like Crakr. Some of us aren`t here by choice.
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    kingpong Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:23 am
    I`m going with giant trilobite.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:39 am
    Madest, what is this proof of alien life you speak of? To my knowledge there is no evidence whatsoever that alien life definitely exists. Just need to make it clear that I don`t believe in any religious crap either.
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    watchman1985 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:49 am
    We`re all missing the real story here - why, in God`s name, is a top scientist using Windows??
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:57 am
    It looks like the Ebon Hawk!
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    Boredered Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:10 am
    Ummm, what could you be doing that`s sooo important that you wouldn`t be able to go check it out?
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:10 am
    The `impact trail` is nothing but the sand at the bottom that has been displaced by ocean currents, on the other side of the object. It proves that the object does have mass that is occluding the cuttents. The only real question is what is the object, there is no `impact crater` there, that`s just overactive imagination.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:14 am
    What kind of scientific proof is there really?...
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    What`s your definition of "alien"? Would a bird be alien? How about a fish? They breathe water afterall, that`s a an alien concept. Would a dinosaur be alien? Science has realized that life forms everywhere that life can form. Odds are there`s more life out there than we can comprehend.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:15 am
    @madest "There is scientific proof of alien life."

    Umm, what?

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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:18 am
    "Madest, what is this proof of alien life you speak of? To my knowledge there is no evidence whatsoever that alien life definitely exists. Just need to make it clear that I don`t believe in any religious crap either."

    Nothing is definite ever, you could be dreaming this all all you can do is make the most probable solution to any given question. For the proof of alien life, I send you to the Drake Equation.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:30 am
    @madest, oh I see. Well the odds of extraterrestrial life is either practically 0, or practically 1. If we find a single example of an alien species then there would most probably be billions of other species across the universe.
    The problem is communication. As far as we can tell information cannot travel faster than the speed of light so any communication, even if we found another intelligent world, would be pants-wettingly slow. Also, many civilisations may wipe themselves out with nukes or similar weapons(we`ve come pants-wettingly close on many occasions) so the time difference between developing radio communications and nukes will be short, and transmissons will be in a small shell moving at the speed of light. The chances of this shell intersecting with the Earth at the same time as we have developed radio technology is astronomically small.
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    myrtheus Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:31 am
    I wonder why people over look the biggest proof of life on other planets is our own? Earth is proof that life can exist on other planets. Earth is proof that intelligent life can exist on other planets, there is your proof that aliens exist.

    How small minded of folks to think that Earth is the only planet in this Universe to develop life.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:37 am
    "How small minded of folks to think that Earth is the only planet in this Universe to develop life."

    So true. It reminds me of history class hearing about ignorant people on how we are the center of the universe and everything revolves around us.

    If anyone bothered to give one thought about how amazing huge the universe is the fact that life exists out there isn`t even a question.

    ET life on our planet is another matter though.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:42 am
    [quote">Got to love how madest is so willing to believe in UFOs, with no scientific proof, Yet he berates those of us that believe in the existence of God. [/quote">
    Hey Crakr, we`ve found what appears to be evidence of life (albeit not advanced life) on other planets in our own solar system. Namely, fossilized bacteria on a Martian stone that hit earth.

    And so you more-or-less CAN`T fight it, I link you to your favorite "news" source, Fox.

    I could link more, but you already can`t fight that link with your near-fanatical devotion, so it`s unnecessary.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:48 am
    That said, the likely-hood of UFO`s (assuming you directly link Unidentified Flying Objects with aliens), let alone "manned" UFO`s is slim to none.

    At best, an advanced species would be sending out unmanned probes to scout out the universe, which would be what we see and would explain why they never make direct human-to-alien contact. The probes weren`t programmed to deal with life, they were just programmed to scan and report.
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    ddaq89 Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 11:00 am
    if this is at the bottom of the ocean, how could there be impact tracks? It would have crashed and maybe skipped on the surface (like a stone) then sink to the bottom. Unless this happened before that area of ocean was filled with sea water. My guess is that it`s an extinct volcano that happens to resemble what we want to it look like.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 11:23 am
    @ddaq89

    Do some research and you`ll know that water has a significant history of movement about the surface of the Earth.

    i.e. The Mizzoula floods.
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    chongo99 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 11:36 am
    @ddaq
    the ocean floor has changed dramatically over the course of history, this area could have been inhabited, could have been a forest or many other options. Just because it`s now the ocean doesn`t determine it`s past
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    crivvens Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 11:42 am
    if u google it IAB is the only mention of this one - but then again I couldn`t be arsed to check them all
  42. Profile photo of DracObi
    DracObi Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 11:42 am
    its only 87 meters down? thats not even the length of a football field,
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    @Altaru, How do you explain the several instances of NASA classifying an object they have seen or filmed as `unidentified`? If we limit aliens possibilities to what we know scientifically then aren`t we handicapping their possibilities? Dinosaurs roamed for 150million years. Man with a rudimentary understanding of science has been around only a few hundred years. Imagine what we`ll know in a million years.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    "How about a fish? They breathe water afterall,"

    HAHA! HAHAHAHAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Fish breathe OXYGEN you dolt. They just have different forms of lungs to extract the oxygen from water.
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    MikeyNiv Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    watchman, even NASA used Windows.
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    TedOVa Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    Maybe it`s Ethan Hawkehttp://image.toutlecine.com/photos/b/i/e/bienvenue-a-gattaca-1997-02-g.jpg
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:18 pm
    @madest

    If we`ll even be around that long

    @(Eban Hawk mentioners)

    Fu<k all you copycats! I posted a picture first.
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    SapphireHart Female 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    " They just have different forms of lungs to extract the oxygen from water."

    Actually they don`t have lungs at all, blood passes through (filaments in) the gills in the opposite direction to the flow of water to get the most oxygen as possible.
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    slut_etta Female 50-59
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    August 1, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    looks like it was found at 87 meters (?) under the sea. if so, couldn`t a diver or a submersible craft investigate?

    and how exciting if it is from somewhere other than earth!
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    There is a shocking lack of any real scientific information. The maker of the video didn`t provide much info. Plus the video was jumping around to random stuff that didn`t make much sense. This is just weird.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    Fair enough Cajun, but I was the first to spell it correctly.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    I`ve been over this before this is from our former kitteh overloards when we lived on Mars. They decided to send us to earth because all resources on Mars got used up. Why do you think Eygiptains worshipped cats and built all the temples to them? They got us off Mars and soon will rise up to rule us again giving us their advanced kitteh technology....
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 2:12 pm
    Klamz, you speak tripe sir and the Drake Equation is speculative. It does not prove in any way that life exists anywhere else in the universe. BTW I would love if we did find extraterrestrial life but until we do then we have to accept the possibility that this is the only planet with life as much as the possibility that the universe is teaming with it.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 2:21 pm
    Could it be that star wars is real??????
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    Zenagi Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    Cthulu, case closed.
  56. Profile photo of TedOVa
    TedOVa Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    87 meters(just over 285 feet) .... I used to dive deeper than that in my T84 back on tatooine...
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    puppies04 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    Hi, we are a group of people who call ourselves "ocean explorers" what we do in a nutshell is explore the ocean for interesting stuff then when we find it we announce through a press release (with spelling errors) that we aren`t going to bother looking at it closer but we welcome other people to do just that.
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    Rich1710 Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    @puppies04 Ermmm i think your being a tad ignorant, They scan sonar for wreckage`s hoping they find something of value, they then send down a submarine to have a better look. Like it says in the video its not worth the risk to them to have a look at it but they are showing it so that other people may be willing to take the risk.
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    looks like a rock
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 7:06 pm
    Hmmm..I smell some maketing hype for more funding.
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    Yap71 Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 7:10 pm
    there`s a fly on the frog on the bump on the log by the unidentified object in the bottom of he sea.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:37 pm
    @Altaru, How do you explain the several instances of NASA classifying an object they have seen or filmed as `unidentified`? If we limit aliens possibilities to what we know scientifically then aren`t we handicapping their possibilities?
    I limit the chances of "manned" UFO`s for the same reason that many people say there HAS to be other life:

    Do you have ANY idea how unimaginably MASSIVE the universe is?

    Even if an alien species were so advanced that they could travel between galaxies in seconds, why would they bother sending crews if they had no confirmation that whatever planet they were probing contained anything useful?

    It would be a waste of time and man-power to send a crew out to scout every single planet in the galaxy, let alone the universe, for a "possibility," especially when you consider that they likely have different criteria for what makes a planet "potentially habitable."

    (Cont. next pos
  63. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:45 pm
    Consider that an alien species could have evolved under completely different circumstances than we did.

    For example`s sake, they could have evolved on a planet made of nothing but magma and a pressurized solid core (which holds the magma on) kept hot due to it`s proximity to the near-by star. From there, if they were like us, they would try to find similar planets to search for life on. They would completely disregard our blue-green planet that doesn`t seem to have any magma flow on the surface.

    On top of that, I once again bring up the lack of direct contact. Such an advanced species that they would send manned probes would want to do one or more of three things:

    1) Make contact and establish diplomacy between our species.
    2) Enslave us as inferior beasts.
    3) Observe us for research purposes.

    (Again, cont.)
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:53 pm
    There`s two problems with #3:

    They haven`t introduced any noticeable variables to observe our reactions (although one could argue for Lady Gaga or Justin Beiber being of alien origin... Hmm...), and if they`re only "observing" then why do they keep getting noticed?

    I mean, if they`re so advanced that they can avoid our radars and sh*t, then why do they keep slipping up and being seen by people with their naked eyes?

    As for what NASA and military pilots and all them see: They`re called Unidentified Flying Objects for a reason. Because no one knows what the hell they are. That doesn`t mean they`re aliens, what it means is that they see things they can`t explain. Could be anything from a piece of airborne debris to a weird ass cloud.

    Important groups and people don`t publicize UFO stories for one big reason everyone overlooks: If they make a scene about it, then an explanation comes along, they look like idiots.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 8:58 pm
    As an add-on:

    Claiming that officially-labeled UFO`s are aliens severely over-estimates what we know about our own planet, and under-estimates the weirdness that goes down on Earth.

    We know more about the moon than we do our own oceans.

    Who`s to say we know everything about the sky and what goes on in it? Or even what lives in it?
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    "
    I mean, if they`re so advanced that they can avoid our radars and sh*t, then why do they keep slipping up and being seen by people with their naked eyes? "

    1. They intend to be seen.
    2. they aren`t perfect.
    3. either, or both of the above.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 10:47 pm
    Altaru: You are forgetting that that `martian` rock has been on earth for over ten thousand years, long enough for earth bacteria to grow on it and become fossilized here on earth.

    madest: Don`t you handicap God`s abilities by insisting that the science we have observed and measured can be the only truth ? You`re so willing to believe in science fiction, yet berate those that believe in God, that`s really hypocritical.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    August 1, 2011 at 11:04 pm
    Sorry Madest, it doesn`t happen often, but I agree with CJ on this one. At least God is an unprovable scientifically... I don`t believe in a God or gods personally, but there`s no way to be sure. However, aliens? I`d like to see just one shred of scientific evidence of their existence (notwithstanding their having visited earth), until then, I`m afraid I remain a skeptic.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    August 2, 2011 at 12:00 am
    Madest, as a side-note: I pride myself on being able to predict 5Cats` submissions based solely on the moonbattery of the description, even before I click. I`d have to say that I can also predict which ones were posted by Madest. Suffice to say, you`re the only two users I can predict with confidence who submitted the thing. His is ultra-right wing US propaganda (which is confusing, as he`s Canadian, but whatever), and yours is UFOs and scientific proof of aliens and X-Files stuff.

    Look, don`t read too much into it. Just saying, I recognise the 5Cats submissions and the Madest submissions from a mile away. And like I said, those are genuinely the only two users I can say that about.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 2:32 am
    @davymid said it best regarding 5Cats and Madest posts.
    As far as this one goes, if a tabloid cover story is your only evidence, I`d say you`ve got a pretty weak case. Im not saying that Extraterrestrial life doesn`t exist, but this video is a farce.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 2:39 am
    Also, I think it looks like Jesus. Just sayin...
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 5:24 am
    Don`t you handicap God`s abilities by insisting that the science we have observed and measured can be the only truth? You`re so willing to believe in science fiction, yet berate those that believe in God, that`s really hypocritical.
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    No I believe in science. There is a mathmatical equation proving life exists on other planets. There is no mathmatical equation proving Gods existence. Klamz reminded me it`s called the Drake Equation.

    @Davymid, I`ve never made my interest in UFO`s a secret. 99% of UFO posts on IAB were submitted by me before I became a mod. Why should things be different now? You should ask yourself which posts you`re surprised come from me. NASCAR preacher? Boogity Boogity!
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    fungsho Male 30-39
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    August 2, 2011 at 5:44 am
    "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof."
    — Christopher Hitchens
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 7:50 am
    You are forgetting that that `martian` rock has been on earth for over ten thousand years, long enough for earth bacteria to grow on it and become fossilized here on earth.


    Well duh!!! What is THAT supposed to say about Mars!

    For all we know Mars has been completely devoid of sentient life (or anything remotely comparable to anything above microscopic) for all that time becuase of its atmosphere.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 7:51 am
    Not that I believe we`ve proven the existence of sentient ETs.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 9:42 am
    madest: The Drake equation proves nothing, Hell the Drake equation isn`t even complete. We keep finding that more and more factors are necessary to develop life on any planet and the more factors there are the lesser the chance of the Drake equation even equaling one.

    In any case, Most of the billions of other galaxies are so far away that they are unreachable in a million lifetimes.

    The stars within our own galaxy do not hold enough numbers for the Drake equation to result in more than one and that `one` is likely just us.

    We are alone on this small blue planet, There is no evidence that ET is out there and going to save us. So your belief is in ETs is no different than my belief in God.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 10:14 am
    CJ, You believe in an invisible man in the sky because of a 2000 year old book. My beliefs come from logic, first hand experience, scientific findings and mathematical equations. Your beliefs spring from nonsense brow beat into your empty head by your negligent parents.
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    Jayno Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 10:17 am
    So aliens developed good enough technology to build an spaceship and come all the way over to earth, but couldn`t crash-land that mother?
  79. Profile photo of Altaru
    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 10:59 am
    You are forgetting that that `martian` rock has been on earth for over ten thousand years, long enough for earth bacteria to grow on it and become fossilized here on earth.
    The article itself addresses that point, which proves you clearly didn`t read it.

    The fossilized bacteria was found INSIDE the rock, not coating the outside. In other words, it was already there, the bacteria they found wasn`t just earth crap on the surface layer.

    We are alone on this small blue planet, There is no evidence that ET is out there and going to save us. So your belief is in ETs is no different than my belief in God.
    Personally, I don`t see why you dismiss the idea of aliens when you believe in God. Do you doubt his capabilities to go ahead and create another planet and species? I mean, humans are basically a failed experiment on his part, so why wouldn`t he want to try again?
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    August 2, 2011 at 11:47 am
    CrakrJak, for once I agree, a belief in extraterrestrial life is as unsubstantiated as a belief in some kind of god.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    August 2, 2011 at 11:57 am
    madest, get this through your thick skull, the drake equation doesn`t PROVE a thing, it is just essentially guesswork. Yet you bandy it around as evidence in the same way that some people bandy the bible around as proof of god.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    im throwing some bratwurst on the grill anybody else want one? hey we have sauerkraut right?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    Better to understand the The Drake Equation before criticizing it. Unless you`re a scientist or a mathematician you`re just making yourself sound foolish.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 4:00 pm
    madest: My beliefs come from logic, first hand experience...

    So you`re an alien abdustee then ?

    The anal probe must`ve been traumatic because they evidently hit brain matter.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    Altaru: Let me give you a simple scenario that is not only plausible, but entirely likely.

    Said meteorite strikes earth, it still being warm attracts earth bacteria that consume the minerals in the meteorite. Then it rains, a flood carries away your small meteor downstream or perhaps in a mudslide or avalanche downhill getting a good coating of earth and or sediment along the way.
    The meteorite with it`s newer earth coating then has ten thousand years to re-fossilize.

    So yeah, bacteria could be found `inside` the outer layer of crud it was caked in and those bacteria still be from earth.

    Even Davy, who is a PHD geologist, isn`t impressed by madest`s arguments for ETs.
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    syke22 Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    They`re using PCs because Macs don`t have sonar
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    So yeah, bacteria could be found `inside` the outer layer of crud it was caked in and those bacteria still be from earth.

    Geologists would be able to tell if that happened.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 2, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    No surprise a religious, conservative, republican goes straight to anal probing in a discussion of aliens...
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    So yeah, bacteria could be found `inside` the outer layer of crud it was caked in and those bacteria still be from earth.
    Cajun said it, geologists would know if that were the case. Mars dirt is made up of different materials than earth dirt, which is why they knew it was a Mars rock in the first place. The bacteria was found inside the Martian part of the rock, after they had cleaned off the earth crud, which wouldn`t be considered part of the Mars rock in the first place.

    Even Davy, who is a PHD geologist, isn`t impressed by madest`s arguments for ETs.
    Davy has said nothing about the bacteria on a Martian rock, so this point is invalid as it has nothing to do with our debate.

    And again, I`m not saying there are intelligent species that are visiting earth. I`m saying that there`s most likely life out there, even simple things like bacteria or protozoa.
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    TrustyMadman Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 7:15 pm
    The black around the object is called scouring. It is debris from the object removed by currents and tides.
    Think of it as dust on a rock, gently blow some away. That is a fast forward of what the water did to this object.
    Looks like a really cool coral formation though, I`ll give them that.

    My source: I AM A ROUTE SURVEY SONAR ANALYST!
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    kbubb91 Male 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 8:24 pm
    its a ship upside down, the line going through the middle is clearly the hull and the stuff on the outside is debree. why the drat would you say its the millennium falcon, someone needs to get his ass out of comic book land.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 3, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    Altaru: Geologists with a goal/agenda in mind ahead of time can make mistakes as easily as anyone else and because the rock was found here on earth it is much more likely the bacteria is of earth origin.

    If they ever find a Mars rock on mars with the same sort of bacteria that would be something, right now it`s nothing but bad speculation.

    Btw, out of all the rock samples that Mars probes and rovers have analyzed, no living or dead bacteria have been observed.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 3, 2011 at 5:45 pm
    Btw, out of all the rock samples that Mars probes and rovers have analyzed, no living or dead bacteria have been observed.
    A) Well DERP. Let me ask you: How deep do we usually find fossilized dinosaur bones? Now, how deep do NASA probes usually dig?

    Assuming nothing has lived on the planet for a couple thousand years, OR COURSE there aren`t going to be signs of life on the surface. They would all be buried underneath millennia of dust and dirt, possibly under the ice layers that they`ve been trying to probe recently.
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 3, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    I had a B, but I lost it...

    A good song came on and I had to stand up and dance.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    Davy has said nothing about the bacteria on a Martian rock, so this point is invalid as it has nothing to do with our debate.
    True, and the reason I didn`t mention it is because, frankly, I don`t know enough about it. Of course I`m aware of the media furore surrounding that martian rock, but best I can remember the results were inconclusive. I can`t be a proper scientist unless I appraise all the evidence laid before me. And that may have been martian bacteria, or it may have been an artifact. Again, I find myself agreeing with CJ. As they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and there was (to the best of my knowledge) no such evidence presented in that case. Could have been caused by a number of geoscientific phenomena.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    August 3, 2011 at 10:19 pm
    For the record, I DO think that life probably exists outside of our planet. I don`t claim proof of such, it`s just a hunch as a scientist. But I think that it`s much more likely that that extraterrestrial life is probably microbial, or at least primtive, whatever that means. Statistically, some should be more advanced than us. But interstellar/galactic travel? Dudes, there are speed limits, apparently, even in the universe as a whole.

    I don`t however, believe that UFOs captured on video on Earth is an intelligent intergalactic space-race who happened to f*ck up when they traversed the galaxy to reach our entirely mediocre planet, and crash into the dirt somewhere in New Mexico because the autopilot somehow failed. THAT is the part I have trouble with personally.

    Again, all based on intuition, personal experience, and education. I`ll be the first one to eat my hat if I`m wrong and an intelligent alien shakes my hand tomorrow. As every self-proclaimed scientist shoul

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