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188 Responses to Teacher Won`t Apologize For Facebook Posting

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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 11:29 am
    Link: Teacher Won`t Apologize For Facebook Posting - Florida teacher Jerry Buell will continue to hate gay people and says no law will stop him. Should he be reinstated?
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    tlshaman Male 13-17
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    August 24, 2011 at 11:57 am
    I love you, creations of God. But you make me throw up.
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    kittehdee29 Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 11:59 am
    Technically it is within his right. But teachers should know better, especially ones that might not be liked by everyone.
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    LillianDulci Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 11:59 am
    This guy wants to take away rights from others, but feels his rights are being violated :x He should have set his privacy settings so that only his friends could view his dumb opinions.
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    jravity1 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    heres the problem...how is he going to tolerate gay students?
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    With rights come responsibility. We are free to own guns but not free to shoot people. Free speech is a right but we`re not allowed to yell FIRE in a crowded theater. He shouldn`t re-instated. Go apply to be a 3rd rate teacher in some private religious school where they love retards like you Mr. Buell. He`s not responsible enough to own a Facebook account then he`s not responsible enough to teach in a public school.
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    onoffonoffon Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    Fear the minority?
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:14 pm
    He has stupid opinions, but they are his opinions and he can post them on his private Facebook page if he wants. Change your privacy settings dude!
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    Matti_Lepalm Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:18 pm
    This guy wants to take away rights from others, but feels his rights are being violated He should have set his privacy settings so that only his friends could view his dumb opinions.

    At the beginning the reporter states that it`s his private facebook page. I can`t tell if this is regarding his privacy settings or just the fact that it`s his personal page.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:18 pm
    90% sure he`s gay.
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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    heres the problem...how is he going to tolerate gay students?

    He`s against gay marriage, which does not necessarily mean he is against gays in general. If his contract says he shouldn`t make political comments in public, then he should be fired. If it`s not mentioned in the contract, he should be reinstated.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    Correct me if I`m wrong here, but the Constitution doesn`t say you can`t loose your government job, just that the government can`t stop you from speaking your mind. The government (read school) isn`t stopping him from saying it, just that it doesn`t want him teaching at their school if he says it.
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    KtySpix Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    He is going to have a rough year. LGBT youth have enough of a hard time already trying to feel comfortable at school. The last thing they need are bigoted teacher`s in an already toxic environment.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    Once again, If you aren`t a cheerleader for Gays and Lesbians, and dare speak your mind about it, then you`re depicted to be some evil unethical hater.

    Madest: The law, namely the 1st amendment, protects everyone`s free speech, even if you don`t like what is being said.

    He should be reinstated immediately.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    that`s retarded... Gays can get married now, good good news! AGREE OR YOU`RE FIRED!!!!
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    vicious_liar Male 13-17
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    First of all: free speech
    Second: There is NO way he can be fired or in ANY way touched in his professional job for something he said in a private sphere.

    That being said he`s an asshat and a homophobe.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    He`s a stupid prick, but he has the right to say stupid things on his facebook.

    As long as he isn`t forcing his religious views on students, then no foul I guess.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    Oldfrt: No contract can violate your constitutional rights, otherwise it`s an illegal contract.

    If you signed a contract making you an indentured servant the contract would be invalidated in court because it violates your rights.
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    IshiiDaFishy Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    `Correct me if I`m wrong here, but the Constitution doesn`t say you can`t loose your government job, just that the government can`t stop you from speaking your mind. The government (read school) isn`t stopping him from saying it, just that it doesn`t want him teaching at their school if he says it.`

    This. Just as he is free to say `GAYS SUCK`, the school board is free to say `YOU`RE FIRED`. The law is he won`t go to jail for free speech. He discriminates other`s views, his own views get discriminated.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    I`m a weapons-grade homosexual. The guy he hates. But I`ll defend his right to his opinions. I see no reason he can`t teach math or english adequately. Just as I, a gay man, could teach despite my political leanings. Though, he may not be the best choice for Drama Club ;-)

    Free speach is for everyone...especially if you don`t like what they have to say.
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    IshiiDaFishy Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    Pretty much meaning, `You can say all you want, and we can fire you all you want. Then you can keep saying whatever you want.
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    He is gay....
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    In the 70`s when Blacks won the right to marry whites (miscegenation) there was this same backlash. Electronic communications can make what you say viewable to more people than he could ever teach. He`s a vile human. If you`re a parent of a gay kid would you send him to his class? I doubt it. He`s not qualified to teach anyone. There`s plenty of qualified people who need a job. He should be replaced.
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    I give it a week and he`ll be coming out.
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    buklaoaa Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    Also - Freedom of speech , stop being hypocrites.
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    Norris Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    You have the right to be a stupid ignorant POS. You do not have the right to make others match your stupidity.
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    madduck Female 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    He has a right to say that- and as long as he is a good teacher his personal views should never come into a classroom setting. I would question his privacy settings or his choice of friends though, he may have made it difficult for some of his students to attend his classes.
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    Serpentchick Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    well, as long as he keeps it out of the classroom it`s legal. But if he says anything inside the classroom, that`s a different story. Also if he calls the kids "child of god" in the classroom I`d be pissed. Don`t bring your religion to the classroom, they`re not your kids to teach religion to.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:04 pm
    "First and foremost, I am a man of God. I try to teach and lead my students as if Lake Co. Schools had hired Jesus Christ himself. That doesn’t mean I give a sermon and serve communion each day…what it means is I try my very best to teach and serve and minister to my students as a teacher led by and connected to the Creator of the Universe…"

    Jerry Buell

    http://tinyurl.com/4x8728x

    And christians wonder why celebrity athiests like to pick on them. How many christians HERE agree to same sex MARRIAGE?
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    Oh and yeah, if Tim Tebow is knocked down to a 4th string QB in Florida because of his religious propaganda, this floridian should`ve been a little more cautious.
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    Serpentchick Female 18-29
    379 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 1:15 pm
    It doesn`t matter if your religion agrees with same sex marriage, as YOU are not allowed to force YOUR religion onto others. This is a civil rights issue, just like it was civil rights to allow white and black people to marry, and lots of people thought that was against their religion too. You can go ahead and not like gay marriage, in which case you can just not get married so someone of the same gender. Other than that, it`s not up to your religion, but up to basic morality. Basic morality says that all people should have the same rights.

    The main problem here though is how picked on gay teens have been in schools lately, so having a homophobic teacher could cause issues. But if he keeps it out of the classroom then it`s legal.
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    choonma Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:19 pm
    Scuzoid: I am a Christian, and I do not agree with same sex marriage.
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    Moperyman Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    There is a supreme court case on how electornic media can be considered a violation of company policies if the violation occurs through company/government owned electronic devices. However if this teacher did this at home away from the class room and not on a school facebook account then there is no issue until his beliefs end up in the classroom. If a gay student is singled out by him then he can be fired. But beyond the guy being a dumbass and not having a personal and school facebook account to differentiate who has access to his wall. This is a first amendment issue and not punishable by the district.
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    Moperyman Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    @Scuzoid

    WTF on your Tim tebow comment, the kid is sucking in denver not in Florida.
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    chongo99 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    Students have been punished more and more in the past few years for their postings on Facebook, whether direct or indirect bullying. Students are held responsible and I believe this man should be too; he doesn`t belong in a classroom.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    He sure does have the right to say that. And the school has the right to fire his backward, hate spewing ass for the negative affect it would have on the children he teaches.
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    Serpentchick Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    wow, um scuzoid, did you even read all of what you linked? He had CURRENT students as his facebook friends (rather a big no-no at most schools) and apparently what he believed made it into the classroom sometimes
    "Blaise, who had Buell as an instructor for two years, remembers the teacher once remarked that gays should be allowed to serve on the front lines of the military with no support."
    "Blaise said Buell was a capable teacher but often pushed personal opinions and beliefs into lessons."

    Link

    I think if you`re friending the students you`re currently teaching, then saying something like that IS bringing it into the classroom, can you imagine if one of his friended students was gay?
    if you`re gonna say stuff like that, DON`T friend your current
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    Wundt Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    I am torn, on the one hand, he is right, he shouldn`t lose his job. The school is a state organization and they cannot stop his free speech (if it was a private company, they certainly could fire him).

    On the other, I wonder if there would be such controversy if he had said, "black people have no right to marry"...?

    Either way, he is a prick and an idiot.
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    The guy is entitled to his opinions but if he can`t keep them to himself he shouldn`t be teaching. Same with teachers who spout religious crap, they should keep it to themselves.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    Check out the queen on the left. Girl is leaking like a popped balloon.
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    insane_ai Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    The man has the right to speak his mind. The school officials need to take their nazi tactics back to the 1940`s. The next time they see an opportunity to step on someone`s rights and abuse their authority, maybe they should consider suicide instead.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    A: I meant "from florida" not in. It was simply a jab at florida altogether.

    B: I`m not sure how me pointing out this guy most certainly pushes his religion in a setting where it is highly frowned upon to do so could possibly indicate I`m a christian.

    C: Choonma, that much is obvious. The point of the question is "Are the number of christians who agree with same sex marriage 2% or 5% of the christian population?" Whatever the ridiculously low number is, christians need to stop being so shocked when they`re told by Ricky Gervais or anyone else "I don`t like you because you`re christian."
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    and gays like you need to stop being so offended when someone doesn`t agree with your views.
  44. Profile photo of Scuzoid
    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    "The man has the right to speak his mind."

    The same way a Muslim-American Presidential candidate has the right to speak his mind about how all non Muslim`s are infidels.

    Guess what, that candidate isn`t getting his government job because "I" won`t pay his salary. This is no different. Anti-Gay Marriage IS a religious statement, exactly the same as the candidates. My tax dollars are NOT for those seeking a pulpit.
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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    @CrakrJak: No contract can violate your constitutional rights, otherwise it`s an illegal contract.

    Such clauses in contracts are very common, and are enforceable. They generally say something to the effect that the employee agrees not to make any public statement that could be embarrassing to the organization. Doesn`t stop him from holding the view, nor from expressing it in private. Assuming he`s in a teacher`s union, I would be surprised if there was not such a clause in the contract.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:11 pm
    "and gays like you"

    I knew a guy who was gay when I was in Iraq shooting people. He did his job well, even though he occasionally had to deal with a gay joke as he was CLEARLY gay.

    You`re not going to offend me unless you`ve got a bullet.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    madest "If you`re a parent of a gay kid would you send him to his class? I doubt it. He`s not qualified to teach anyone."
    Yes, I would. It opens a discussion with the kid about learning to deal with hateful people.

    And there would be another discussion ... with the teacher. That I support is right to free speach but I would be watching him closely if he crossed the line and tried to impose his religious views in the classroom.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:14 pm

    Doesn`t "tolerance" mean tolerating ALL views?
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    I`m on the fence as to whether or not this speech should be protected.

    What I am NOT on the fence about is his poor judgment when it comes to teaching. Surely he knows that students of his will read what he writes. What is not so sure is that he would understand that at least a few of his students are gay, some of whom are in the throes of self-struggle and acceptance. As a student who was in this position years ago, I can say that if I had had him as a teacher, it would have been (no exaggeration) devastating. He is the whole reason the "It Gets Better" campaign was created. I truly hope that his gay students are strong enough to ignore his comments and see it as an opportunity for personal growth. I truly hope...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Even the ACLU thinks the school is wrong:

    “The First Amendment protects his right to share his views – offensive or not,” said Howard Simon, executive director of the ACLU of Florida, in a statement. “Even though we strongly disagree with his opinion, especially considering how hard the ACLU fought to win marriage equality in New York, Mr. Buell should not be subject to disciplinary action by his employer for expressing his views.”
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    xerch Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    "In another news, the American economy is flushing down the toilet. That in our next emission. Thanks for watching CNN" ... -_-
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:26 pm
    He`s an idiot and I disagree with his opinions, but he has every right to express those opinions. If he was saying these things in the classroom I would understand the school`s position. But on his personal time, the school is violating his constitutional right to free speech.
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    ohthedrama Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:33 pm
    Interesting. He wrote it in a private section of facebook ergo they are not public thoughts. This would be like someone having a conversation with their friend at a restaurant but the table next to them is eavesdropping and turns it into a public issue. Also what this guy said is not "hate" but an opinion. Sure he used the word cesspool which some actually use to describe the homeless but noone seems to be going after anyone making those comments. So shame on your IAM for doing what CNN is doing and turning what is nothing more than a comment and branding it into a hate comment. I seem to recall people here calling religious people a cesspool as well. So explain to me how that is supposed to work?
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    ohthedrama Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    Oh, and I wouldn`t use the word cesspool or throw up but in a sense I agree with the man`s position.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    Lots of people missing a lot of what is said just in that video.

    He`s been reassigned inside of the government pending an investigation. He`s still being paid. The investigation is something he agreed to when he signed his contract in the state of Florida. "Inappropriate behavior outside of the workplace impacts thereputation and status of the school district, and therefore shall result in disciplinary action."

    Honestly I could care less about his position on gays. The district may not even care, the complaint against him came from a gay who was a student ten years ago, but his complaint also added the teacher`s classroom religious agenda. This is where he crosses a line the district has to act on.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:41 pm
    "I seem to recall people here calling religious people a cesspool as well. So explain to me how that is supposed to work?"

    The difference is YOU are not required to pay my paycheck in some fashion. If I state every christian, muslim, and jew are the cesspool of america, you`re more than welcome to stop buying my product or what have you limiting my income.

    Where as with Mr. Buell I`M required to pay his paycheck even though he wants to talk to my child about the healing power of Christ.
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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    I do agree that what he said is wrong; and I wouldn`t want someone with those opinions teaching one of my children. That said, I completely agree that he should be allowed to say what he wants, and go him for not apologizing. If I had said "Theists are complete idiots and only deserve the hell they condemn everyone else to." I wouldn`t apologize either.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    Everyone has prejudices. Everyone. Most of us work to be better people and rid ourselves of these negative thoughts. It`s when a person expresses these views publicly that they become a racist/homophobe/bigot. Because at that point you are hurting someone. You can be sure the gay kids in his school were hurt by these hateful words. Same as some gay people are going to be hurt by the homophobia in the comments of this post.
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 2:54 pm
    I personally believe the constitution of the United States needs to be altered so it protects free speech in it`s entirety.
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    jteachey1 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    He has every right to say it. He should keep his job. He`s still a fu<kas$ though.
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    CoffeeDiiva Female 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:03 pm
    I think he is an idiot but good for him for not apologizing he has every right to post whatever he wants and he has every right to have his opinions
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:09 pm
    ha ha ha.... gay issues. Religion, newbish and trolling. Just what i can expect on IAB
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:12 pm
    A difficult situation. Which does more harm? Him working in a state school with those views, which harms some pupils and damages the seperation of church and state? Or sacking him for his views, which damages freedom of speech?

    I`m not sure which is the least bad course of action.
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    cloud7zero Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:28 pm
    he may be a jerk but hes entitled to his opinion....
    wrong as it is
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    CurlybackJoe Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    I bet he`s gay.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    Since he friended students he needs to be let go. There is freedom of speech but I don`t think firing him denies him his liberty. In fact it frees him to keep his right to post hateful crap on his Facebook page. We wouldn`t even be discussing this if he was raging about black people he would simply be fired. Keeping him employed is unfair to his students and their parents because they might not have a choice about where to send their kids.
    His only option to keep his job is a sincere apology, to the kids and the school
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    kummi90 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    Dammit I hate religon, and religious thinking. Image a world without religion, where humans are equal, and people keep their morals out of official politics and keep their twisted God-cokkstained morals to themselves... Insult marriage? This guy hasn`t paid any attention to the divorce statistics lately...
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    SoberGuy Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    yeah.. i mean, he might be a jerk but facebook is filled with intolerant douches. why should him be the only one to be punished for being one? people have the right to say whatever the drat they want to. except here, where i bet IAB replaced the F word i just used with some random stuff.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
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    August 24, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    I think he is wrong, but he is perfectly entitled to voice his opinion outside of school.
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    since when did stupid sh*t said on facebook become news worthy?
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    M_Archer Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Freedom of speech does not mean people have to listen to you; it simply means no one can use force to stop you from speaking. Usually, when a company fires an employee, it`s not the government`s business unless one party violated the terms of a contract.

    However, in this case, it`s a high school--run by the government. If it was a completely private school I`d defend the school`s reasons but since it`s not, the teacher is right and should be reinstated.
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    DoctorSlutba Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:19 pm
    I don`t consider myself political. That doesn`t mean that I don`t have political issues that are close to my heart (for example, I feel gay marriage shouldn`t only be legal but should have been long ago), but I feel like politics is just an advanced wealth driven game of "he said" "she said" and I couldn`t keep up with it if I tried. If he`s keeping his opinion out of the class room and not discriminating against students, I don`t give a poo what he posts on his Facebook. If he is a good, compassion teacher, then who gives a drat? This, coming from one of the most gay-friendly people you`ll meet. Who wastes energy into caring?
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    "Within the time period that they have me they would know that I love them, that I respect them..."

    Unless you are a gay student, then he wants to vomit on you.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    Hey Jerry Buell, straight people have been making a mockery of marriage before any sort of gay person had the idea to get married to their partner. Go f*ck yourself.

    Sincerely, Pooptart19.

    P.S.It`s Florida, remember? PRAISE JEEBUS!
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    OLdfrt: ``He`s against gay marriage, which does not necessarily mean he is against gays in general.``

    Really? You want to feign ignorance on this?
    You seem wise enough to know that these two
    things usually go hand in hand.

    And I`m agreeing with Madest here (Whom I respect more, by each and every comment he posts): ``With RIGHTS come RESPONSIBILITY. Americans are free to own a gun, but does that make them free to shoot people aswell?``

    Opinions are great and everything, but why bother with them if they`re only going to cause conflict, hate, aggression and pain? When he posted his opinion of Facebook, what could he have possibly gained by it? The satisfying feeling of having expressed himself? But to what cost? He loves to teach, and now not only are people outraged and suspending him from teaching, but the gay students he, `supposedly`, loves are now uncomfortable with him as a teacher.

    Nothing good has come out of this.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    madest: When the self-described `weapons-grade homosexual`, Gerry, Disagrees with you on a topic such as this maybe you need to get down off your own liberal pulpit and quit thumping your `Mother Jones` magazine.
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    Furthermore, I would really like to stress
    that I sincerely respect everyone`s right to freely say what is on their mind.

    But when there`s clearly no positive outcome in doing so, why bother? Say that by expressing your opinion you make people think, you open people`s eyes to something they were blind to, you inspire people, educate them, whatever; By all means, please do.

    The teachers statement does none of these things.
    It caused him to be in an undesirable situation, and stirs up pain and aggression in others. A double-edged sword, if you will.

    I see no point in this.
  78. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:36 pm
    EdiMesic: Americans are free to own a gun, but does that make them free to shoot people aswell?

    If a criminal threatens my family or breaks into my house, You damn well bet I have that right and responsibility.

    What if straight students are `uncomfortable` with a gay teacher ? Should they be fired just because of a few students ?

    Nothing good is coming out of your analogies, I believe that you assuming more conflict here than actually exists at his school.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    Jerry Buell is free to hate gays. I have the right to hate Jerry Buell. As a straight Male,I think you are a useless animal. I have the right to think you have your head so far up your anal cavity you can see your teeth. He only respects an imaginary man in the sky. Nutjob.
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    dognose82 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    No foul language or threats? Open and shut case of violations of his constitutional rights. Some may find it disturbing and disagree with him, I certainly do, but he still has his rights to an opinion and the right to voice it.

    Would you say suspend him if he was a speaker at a rally that you didn`t agree with? The same goes for a semi-private forum such as facebook.
  81. Profile photo of EdiMesic
    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    CrakrJak:

    You`re...*Opens profile tab* Christian?

    Say my neighbour who is also Christian claims that it`s perfectly ok for women to be beaten. Because according to the Bible, women must submit to men. (Just saying something, whatever)

    ``Well, if -HE- says that then all Christian men must feel that way about women.``

    Yeah. Perfectly plausible way of thinking. :)
  82. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    Weapons grade homosexual Gerry is a grown man. This is just a guess but I doubt he was open about his sexuality when he was in high school. Today there`s an epidemic of perceived gay children being brutalized and even killed by kids that grow up around douchebags like this. (I`m sorry Gerry but you`re as wrong on this as my friend CJ).
    CJ, You should concern yourself with the kids that are alive as much as you do the unborn. They are the future, even as cliche as that phrase has become.
  83. Profile photo of EdiMesic
    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    CrakrJak: And your comparisons are nonsensical, to say the least.

    Despite being one of the most ignorant people on
    these commentary pages, surely you can see that the behaviour of this man is not the same as a homosexual teacher that keeps his sexuality to himself?

    Students that are uncomfortable with his sexuality? For what possible reason? Does this homosexual teacher express opinions about how disgusting hetrosexual people are? If he does; he should be fired.

    Just like mr. Buell should be, for expressing an opinion that influences young minds negatively.
    E.g. : Teaching children to not accept a human being for their sexuality.

    This behaviour belongs in the past.
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    EdiMesic Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:10 pm
    And I know, he posted the statements on FACEBOOK, in the comfort of his own house. Very ``private``.

    But really? He didn`t expect students to find out about this? I`m sure his statements got out because one of his own students read it on his Facebook page.

    Say what you will, but students look up to their teachers and rely on them to set a ``proper` example. This obligation does not fade outside school territory. You should be aware that students could follow you on Facebook and could be negatively influenced by your statements (like not accepting someone because of their sexuality).

    With that said, I distance myself from this discussion. Have fun.
  85. Profile photo of Mister_C
    Mister_C Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:11 pm
    I think his opinion is vile, especially as he`s an educator, but I also think he`s perfectly entitled to his opinion.
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    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:18 pm
    Haters gonna hate. Like really....he is entitled to be a hateful prick, as long as he doesn`t bring it to the classroom. We allow all sorts of nutjobs to wander around, like fundie Christians.
  87. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:23 pm
    madest: "Today there`s an epidemic of perceived gay children being brutalized and even killed by kids that grow up around douchebags like this."

    An epidemic you say ? really ?

    There were more hate crimes against Religious people than all the hate crimes against homosexuals, From 2000 to 2008

    There were twice as many hate crimes against people of another race, from the same source, and the rate of hate crimes against homosexuals has been steadily decreasing.

    Sorry, but you are once again caught over exaggerating a problem to berate Christianity with.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:28 pm
    You know what CJ, I`m not going to your link because I know it`s complete bullcrap. Point me to one article about a kid being killed because of his religion and I`ll follow it. Until then take your right wing loopiness and shove it up your rear because you`re the same douchebag this teacher is.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    PS: I did go to your link and it doesn`t reflect deaths or beatings. Yeah the Jews get a lot of anti-semite grafitti. But they go on living. Stop being stupid you moron.
  90. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    EdiMesic: Despite being one of the most failed analogy makers on IAB, Even you must admit that Mr. Buell has 1st amendment rights that should not be usurped just because you don`t like what he has to say.

    Mr. Buell is a well respected, Teacher of the year, and shouldn`t be punished for his private facebook opinion.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:35 pm
    Firing him does not deny him his first amendment right CJ. The constitution guarantees liberty not a job.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:35 pm
    madest: The link is from the 2010 census and DOES reflect all hate crimes.

    The `loopy` one is you, because once again I`ve proved you wrong and your sputtering over it like a car that ran out of gas.
  93. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:39 pm
    madest: The constitution protects against persecution and punishment of all types, If it didn`t then it wouldn`t protect gays from getting wrongfully fired from their jobs after coming out.

    Your digging your hole even deeper madest.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    so he doesn`t approve of gay marriage. big whoop. move along people.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    Am I the only one who see`s 6,858 christians who committed a hate crime in 2008?
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    thescotsman Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    He has every right to his opinion, and should not be suspended from his job because of it, even though I don`t agree with it because I am a gay man. As long as he isn`t out killing people he`s welcome to his opinion.Like same sex marriage, it doesn`t affect me or anyone else one way or the other.The ones who say it does have other issues.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    No you`re wrong. Clearly you don`t don`t even understand the document you like to quote so often.
    Another thing. The census you quote is BS. Without the Jews the total "hate" crimes you seem to be so concerned about would be 509. And "victim" as defined by the report you posted includes "person, business`s, institution`s or society as a whole". Which wasn`t even what I was talking about in the first place.
    How about this? For every article you point me to about a Christian being beaten or killed because he was perceived to be Christian I`ll show you 10 articles about children being beaten or killed because they were perceived to be gay.
    Sometimes I find your nonsense to be so flabbergasting. It`s as if you refuse to understand English when you attempt to take me on.
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    Micktrex Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 6:18 pm
    The only problem I see here is facebook. People share too much too often these days.
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    SephirothA83 Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    Freedom of speech doesn`t grant you the right to act stupid. The only reason this is even a discussion is because LBGT rights are still taboo compared to race. Once that has passed from being taboo just like race is we`ll all speak a different tune to this.
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    Spider_sol Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    I loled at "private facebook page"
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    There have been several contradictory rulings concerning the First Amendment, Facebook, and school systems. In some cases they have ruled that students` postings on Facebook are private and protected by the First Amendment. In others it has not upheld that all speech is protected (harassment, etc). And because the Supreme Court itself has not made a definitive ruling it`s in a legal gray area. The immediate issue seems to be, as in other First Amendment cases, whether the speech is particularly inflammatory or violent. However, this is also compounded by the fact that he, unlike a student, is an EMPLOYEE of the school system and may be subject to institutional policies that he must follow.



    Here
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    skine Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 6:52 pm
    At 0:12, I realized why this is in the news.

    Apparently people think that their facebook page is private.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    All this fooferall!

    You guys that don`t want him to say what he wants on Facebook... you`d be okay with him in the school hating fags as long as he didn`t tell anyone he hates fags.

    I say speak up. I prefer to know where the idiots are.
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    Bremir Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 7:14 pm
    Not that I agree with what he said, but at least the guy isn`t going to go and start kissing **** and giving out pathetic, halfhearted apologies that`s just being said to get everyone to shut up.

    That`s the problem with people today. One man or woman will say something in a site like that, or an actor/actress/someone will swear on TV or have their heated argument put online that has racism or sexism or whatever else there is being thrown out and people start demanding apologies.

    I say **** them. People need to stop whining about everything.
  105. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 7:14 pm
    Also, people really don`t understand the 1st amendment.

    Freedom of speech does NOT mean that you can say anything you want without consequence.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
    1610 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 7:23 pm
    The best history teachers I ever had were fierce about keeping their opinions to themselves.

    I don`t use facebook but they said his account was set to private so I`m confused as to why this is an issue.
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    supersai20 Male 13-17
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    August 24, 2011 at 7:25 pm
    "God will not be mocked"

    Ill mock him if i damn well please.
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
    937 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    "Freedom of speech does NOT mean that you can say anything you want without consequence. "

    so what exactly is freedom of speech then?


    also, awesome teacher is awesome
  109. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
    719 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 7:44 pm
    "I don`t use facebook but they said his account was set to private so I`m confused as to why this is an issue."

    Private doesn`t mean that he`s the only person who can read his posts.

    Someone who could read the posts thought that a bigot should not be in a teaching position and alerted the school to the comments. The school agreed, has removed him from his teaching position and is now trying to find a way to fire him.

    It would be like a friend catching him saying these things on video, then turning the video in to the school.
  110. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 7:45 pm
    madest: Here you are making excuses and qualifications for why you are wrong. This is NOT an epidemic as you so claimed and now your backpeddling with exceptions trying to save face.

    No article count is going to be the same as actual police reports. Why ? because the media doesn`t report every incidence, only those that will sell newspapers. Sorry to let you in on that secret, but the media only reports on what it wants to report on, newspapers are not as ideologically pure as you think.

    Actual police reports trump media reports any day of the week.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 7:53 pm
    madest: "It`s as if you refuse to understand English when you attempt to take me on."

    No, It`s more like you refusing every fact I show to refute your inflammatory nonsense.

  112. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
    719 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    "so what exactly is freedom of speech then? "

    Well, let`s look at the text:

    "Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech"

    Basically, you cannot be prosecuted for what you say. However, you are still responsible for the consequences of your speech, as with any other action.


    As a few examples:

    -Call your girlfriend she`s a fat cow. Enjoy being single.
    -At work, wear a shirt that says "I hate n*ggers!" Enjoy being fired.
    -At work, inform your boss that you saw your coworker stealing money from the business. Enjoy your defamation lawsuit.

    Of course, there are laws against wrongful firing, but they are not included in the First Amendment.
  113. Profile photo of tatripp
    tatripp Male 18-29
    1196 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 8:10 pm
    he said nothing wrong
    it makes me want to take a diarrhea dump all over that school district
  114. Profile photo of HalfPintRoo
    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 8:29 pm
    Gerry.... exactly...
  115. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    skine.... exactly...
  116. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 8:51 pm
    skine: That doesn`t mean every teacher that disagrees with same-sex marriage should be fired just because of their opinion. If Mr. Buell is fired it opens up the door to other school districts doing the same. His suspension is outrageous and he should be reinstated immediately, unless his school district wants to pay out a hefty cash settlement.

    You cannot fire someone based on color, creed, race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, or national origin.

    I believe you need to read the civil rights act.
  117. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    "You cannot fire someone based on color, creed, race, religion, sexual orientation, gender identity, or national origin."

    As I said before, Freedom of Speech means that you can say what you want, but you still suffer the consequences of your actions.

    Similarly, Freedom of Religion means that you can believe what you want, but you still suffer the consequences of your actions.

    Even though (in his opinion), his religion promotes bigotry, and it`s perfectly legal to be a bigot, that does not mean that it is the school`s obligation to employ a bigot.

    On a similar vein, say a man`s religion calls for human sacrifice, and he believes that human sacrifice will bring his village good fortune. Under your interpretation of Freedom of Religion, this man should walk free. In actuality, this man would be charged with murder.
  118. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
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    August 24, 2011 at 9:32 pm
    *If this man actually performs a human sacrifice, then
  119. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 9:57 pm
    skine: Mr Buell hasn`t `Acted` on his beliefs in any way, all he did was voice them. Unless someone were to allege that he himself discriminated against a student, then the school cannot fire him.

    Voicing one`s opinion is not legally actionable, Sorry.
  120. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
    719 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 10:07 pm
    "Mr Buell hasn`t `Acted` on his beliefs in any way, all he did was voice them. Unless someone were to allege that he himself discriminated against a student, then the school cannot fire him."

    In practically any other profession, they could fire him if they believe that it is in their best interest to do so.

    Since he`s a teacher, though, he may have tenure, which makes it extremely difficult to fire him. Going by the video, the school has taken him out of the classroom, but they`re still working to find a way to fire him.

    "Voicing one`s opinion is not legally actionable, Sorry."

    Which is why the school didn`t take legal action against him.
  121. Profile photo of pariahnola
    pariahnola Male 18-29
    649 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 10:10 pm
    The guy has the right to his opinion and has the right to publish those beliefs using any media he sees fit. I do not agree with his statements but He has the right to speak them them.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 10:14 pm
    "There were more hate crimes against Religious people than all the hate crimes against homosexuals"

    Yeah against the Jewish community. You`ll notice in the census link that was provided there were so few hate crimes against Christians that they were lumped in with other religious groups. The number of hate crimes against gays is huge considering they make up around 2% of the population. And even higher since we can blend in. I`m not saying that Christians don`t hear their share of hate talk but it is almost always because they push and push and push hateful views until people can`t take it any more and push back. Christians that push hate need to go back and take a close look at the teachings of Jesus.
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    coffeekoneko Female 18-29
    1008 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    He has a right to say or write whatever he thinks, but he was a dumbass to post it on facebook and not expect a backlash.
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    Scuzoid Male 30-39
    1268 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 10:21 pm
    @Markust

    You can practically guarantee ~90% of the 6.9k - 7.7k of the individuals in the "Known Offenders" column were Christians, but that reality doesn`t fit into CJ`s hamlet, so we`ll just ignore it.
  125. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 11:11 pm
    Wait...my marriage to my wife is the "cesspool of whatever"??? What a penishead. (Not to mention he`s a homophobic Conservative)
  126. Profile photo of GasMaskKid
    GasMaskKid Male 18-29
    694 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 11:20 pm
    This is disgusting. If I were the principal of his school, I`d say drat the Constitution, and fire this guy. In any other situation, I might not act that way, but what a dick.
  127. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 24, 2011 at 11:32 pm
    CJ said: "Mr Buell hasn`t `Acted` on his beliefs in any way, all he did was voice them. Unless someone were to allege that he himself discriminated against a student, then the school cannot fire him.

    Voicing one`s opinion is not legally actionable, Sorry. "
    As usual, you`re wrong. His actions have made it impossible for students to feel comfortable in his classroom, knowing that he`s a bigot. If a teacher said hateful things about black people on FB, he would be held accountable. If he posted something about Conservatives making him want to puke, you`d wonder if he could teach his kids fairly and unbiased.....especially if they were your kids. Yes, he excercised his right to voice his opinions, but he is in the unique position of being in contact with children, and being a positive role-model to them. In this day and age, that means keeping hateful statements that could apply to your own students off of public forums.
  128. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 11:38 pm
    "also, awesome teacher is awesome"

    Really? I`ve heard he was also making comments about female students tits. Of course, he jusr excersizing "freedom of speech". Sigh.
  129. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 11:43 pm
    Scuzoid: Since the vast majority of Americans call themselves Christians, even if they aren`t really `practicing` Christians, most people that commit offenses, of any type, will likely be considered Christian.

    I could point to crime statistics in Saudi Arabia and say that 99% of their `hate crimes` are from muslims, but would that really be a fair condemnation of all muslims ? I don`t think so.
  130. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 11:49 pm
    jtrebowski: If he posted something about Conservatives making him want to puke...

    They`d likely give him a raise and make him the local union president, because it`s OK to bash and hate on conservatives as far as liberals are concerned.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
    718 posts
    August 24, 2011 at 11:54 pm
    I got a good question, why is it ok to make fun of fat people, but not GAY people now? they say (i was BORN GAY) yeah? WELL I WAS BORN CHUBBY! and ive been chubby for 28 goddamn years! ive tried everything i can to become skinny. till i finally said one day, why do i hate my body so much? oh thats right. because im being TOLD to hate my body. why should somebody who is doing/being done up the ass get freedom from persecution, but fatties are still fotter for laughter. this country is full of bullshhit
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 24, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Mr. Buell, there is nothing wrong with a little kiss.


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    sethmccary Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2011 at 12:54 am
    haha, it replaced drating with drating
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    sethmccary Male 18-29
    208 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 1:03 am
    superior genes get passed on. gays cannot reproduce. end of story
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2011 at 1:16 am
    Thanks Gerry, Now I`m going to need some eye bleach.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2011 at 1:19 am


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    Vimto Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2011 at 1:22 am
    He may be a dick but I will defend to the death his right to be a dick.
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    Djer Male 18-29
    842 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 3:36 am
    @Crakr I may not agree with many of your opinions, but I must say you have FINE taste in eye bleach. Now if you`ll excuse me...
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 4:24 am
    Three times in a row @sethmccary bashed gays. Me thinks he protests too much. Sounds like a self hating closet case. Keep slamming on gay people @sethmccary it might just chase the gay right out of you. Right.
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    Essersmith Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2011 at 4:49 am
    "one of the things that make america great, is that we can disagree" - Thats a lie. America is in war with several countries for not "agreeing" with them.

    Also he is clearly a religious person, which he is allowed to be.
    But please tell me, because i`m unsure on this point; is religion and state seperated in the US?
    Because he is commenting on political matters and refering to his religious beliefs in the same sentence. If state and religion isnt seperated like in saudi arabia then i guess its "fine" what he does.

    Also
    Yes freedom of speech should be respected, but most countries do not tollerate hatefull comments, by anyone, but most notifiably official figures. If there is no limits to free speech in the US then again its "fine" what he did.

    Ethically however might be a different issue.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2011 at 5:04 am
    superior genes get passed on. gays cannot reproduce. end of story
    Are you saying homosexuality is genetic?
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2011 at 6:56 am
    @Crakrjak: Speaking of Liberal...you do know the ACLU has publicly supported Buell, right? Now, back to my original point...if Buell made a public posting about conservatives being part of a "cesspool", or made him want to puke, would you tfeel he could be fair and unbiased towards your kids?
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    Brian 61316 Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2011 at 7:24 am
    Homosexual`s can reproduce, just not with themselves.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 7:34 am
    "superior genes get passed on. gays cannot reproduce. end of story."

    Your bigoted comment proves you wrong. Sometimes, like in your case, in-superior genes do get passed on.


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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    August 25, 2011 at 7:55 am
    Buell has been asked to speak at a Florida Awake! rally tonight, sponsored by the Liberty Counsel, at First Baptist Church of Leesburg. Apparently being a hateful bigot takes you places.
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    Reignblazer Male 18-29
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    August 25, 2011 at 8:11 am
    I don`t mind homosexuals. I also don`t mind people with opinions that aren`t in line with mine.
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    ragebot Male 18-29
    32 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 8:36 am
    If we didn`t let be people be hateful bastards or have ludicrous beliefs, where would we be as humans?
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    Rogan Female 18-29
    46 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 9:06 am
    This mans trollin` for a dink in his face. " I have the right to be a hater in mah own home damnit"
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36646 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Let`s see if I have this right....

    There is no indication he has performed his job badly, or mistreated any student. But you guys want to fire him because you don`t like what he thinks....

    Thought Police Suck
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    sssfdg Male 18-29
    190 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 9:56 am
    Let him keep his job.... so long as he doesn`t teach bigoted hatred.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 11:27 am
    jtrebowski: if Buell made a public posting about conservatives being part of a "cesspool", or made him want to puke, would you tfeel he could be fair and unbiased towards your kids

    No, there are so many teachers that have voiced those same opinions, against conservatives, that parochial school enrollments are at all-time highs.

    Those teachers would never be suspended, they`d be rewarded because as I said earlier it`s OK, in the liberal mind, to hate and bash conservatives.

    So what is a conservative family, that can`t afford to send their kids to a parochial school, supposed to do ? Right now, they can`t do anything but send their kids to public school and hope the teachers don`t single them out for ridicule. Whatever garbage that they try to stuff down their kids throat should be discussed and corrected at home.
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    kw112 Female 13-17
    243 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 11:43 am
    This guy has no reason to apologize. It was on his PRIVATE facebook wall. The only way I could see him getting fired over this was if he allowed students access to his account or if he was saying this like the posting during class. You can`t fire someone because they have an opinion. If we give people the power to do that they also have the power to fire someone for having the opposite opinion. Gerry has it right.
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    wildancrazy Male 40-49
    138 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 11:44 am
    This is within 15 miles of where i live..God help me..
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    lazerdude Male 13-17
    221 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    No thank you crakrjak.
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    tobyvictory Male 70 & Over
    406 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 12:22 pm
    When did greed, one of the 7 deadly sins, become acceptable?
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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
    750 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    jtrebowski: His actions have made it impossible for students to feel comfortable in his classroom, knowing that he`s a bigot.


    First, Mt. Dora is not a big town, how can you assume there are any students feeling uncomfortable?

    Second,I reiterate my previous statement, he`s against gay marriage, not necessarily against gays. Gay marriage is a POLITICAL issue, not a religious issue. Yes, religious people seem to line up against gay marriage, but that does not make it a religious issue. Heck, I know some gay people who are against gay marriage. Liberals seem way too eager to lump people into broad categories with very little evidence.

    And what`s with this thinking "anti-gay statement = closet homosexual"? Is this the birth of a new, unfounded stereotype?
  157. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    Jerk-off got re-instated. But a guy this stupid will eventually get fired and collect government handouts whilst simultaneously complaining about government spending.
  158. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36646 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    You guys think it`s okay to fire him for his moral views.

    What about his political views? how about then?

    Can your boss fire you for your views?

    I think the guys a jerk, but he should keep his job unless he actually does something bad.
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    splurbyburbl Male 30-39
    2798 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 2:39 pm
    Screw this religious nutjob. He shouldn`t be fired for what he said, he should be fired for being religious and thinking he is objective minded enough to teach in a logical manner. Religion and logic simply do not go together.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    "You guys think it`s okay to fire him for his moral views."

    Absolutely not. Even the ACLU doesn`t believe he should have been disciplined.

    But are they really moral views if those views, when expressed publicly, can hurt people? Doesn`t sound very moral at all. It sounds more like religious sanctioned bigotry.
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    boredyeti Male 13-17
    16 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    Is he a bigot? absolutely. But he has the right to say what he thinks. its the first amendment, and as long as it doesn`t find its way into the classroom, he should be allowed to teach.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 4:08 pm
    as long as it doesn`t find its way into the classroom, he should be allowed to teach.
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    He did bring it into the classroom by friending students.
  163. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    madest: Once again, you were wrong on all counts. Willing to throw away the rights of those you don`t agree with and want special rights for those that you do agree with.

    I`m glad this school system came to it`s senses and realized they would loose, I believe they owe Mr. Buell an apology as well.
  164. Profile photo of Serpentchick
    Serpentchick Female 18-29
    379 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    He friended CURRENT students of his, and that (being a really, really bad idea even for the most mild mannered of people) means that the students in that classroom KNOW how he feels. You try feeling safe in a classroom where a man calls homosexuality a cesspool. As a straight woman I would still have felt unsafe to be in a class with a man who thinks that mutual love between two people is so horrible he wants to vomit. If I had a kid in that class, I would probably ask to have my child taken out of that sort of hostile environment.
    Also apparently he has said some things in class, so he should at least be highly monitored in class.
  165. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    No I wasn`t wrong. Mr. Buell lives in Redneckersonville where hating on gays is a misdemeanor. He`d have lost his job up here where smart people live.
    But then again it would never happen up here because smart people live here.
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    han5nah Female 13-17
    735 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    It was a douchey, closed-minded thing to say, but he has the right to say it. He shouldn`t be punished.
    A school in a less gay-friendly community might punish a teacher for posting passionately pro-gay comments, and would you have a problem with that?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36646 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    OMG!

    CrakrJak... have you and I agreed on something?

    That has to be one of the signs of the End Times!
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 7:15 pm
    teachers give up rights just like students do in our schools. he can hate all he wants to, but when it comes to the classroom (or facebook apparently, because he had students on it) he should keep his opinions to himself... if you replace the word "gay" with the word "black" would some of you still be saying that he is in the right? i think not. granted there are probably racist teachers out there, but they know to keep their mouths shut if they want to keep their jobs. the same principles apply here in this situation. being gay is just another thing for small-minded individuals to discriminate against, just like being a minority was fifty years ago.
  169. Profile photo of Lardcarcass
    Lardcarcass Male 40-49
    254 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    "You try feeling safe in a classroom where a man calls homosexuality a cesspool."

    Isn`t the point of male homosexuality to get into your buddy`s cesspool?
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    mar95789 Female 18-29
    193 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 7:30 pm
    I don`t agree with what he said but he has the right to say it. Every educator knows don`t friend students on facebook.
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    agentsmith41 Male 18-29
    27 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 8:18 pm
    @SmilinSam

    Do you hear yourself right now? Sure, teachers and students have a "code of ethics" to abide by while in school. However, to say he shouldn`t be able to express his opinions about same sex marriage(while outside of school, mind you) is absolutely ludicrous. NO ONE`S job should ever be threatened for expressing the way they feel about something even if it is racist, discriminatory, or just plain inappropriate.

    It`s our civil right to express how we feel about certain issues. Just as it`s your civil right to disagree with my views. To take that away from somebody simply because they`re a teacher is a gross violation of our civil rights and should be taken very seriously.
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    helix25 Male 18-29
    165 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    @SmilinSam, It is also ok for nazis to march freely in the US. Could you though, please tell me where you go this from:

    "teachers give up rights just like students do in our schools."
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    TypicalJerk Male 18-29
    533 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    It doesn`t matter if it is your civil right if your employer doesn`t want you representing them with that sort of publicity. If this man gets his job back, every hot teacher that ended up fired over slutty pics and/or pronz should be reinstated and given some restitution.
  174. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 9:43 pm
    madest: Mr. Buell lives in Redneckersonville where hating on gays is a misdemeanor. He`d have lost his job up here where smart people live.

    Once again, your superiority complex is showing. As if you are instantly smarter than everyone else just because of where you live. You have a monstrous hubris that may someday cause a pride fall of epic proportions. I hope that you will someday realize that there are different kinds of `smarts` and that you are not the epitome of even one of them.
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    sethmccary Male 18-29
    208 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 10:14 pm
    Seriously, homosexuality is darwinism at a human level. The same way some frogs in Africa spontaneously change sexes when there are too many of one sex so that the species can continue...except in reverse. The world is becoming over-populated, there is no "competition" to reproduce, so natural selection is just running it`s course. I`m not an expert, but it`s just a theory.
  176. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36646 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    @ sethmccary - you are right. Gays are the next step in evolution.
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    sethmccary Male 18-29
    208 posts
    August 25, 2011 at 11:54 pm
    Weather an opinion is the truth is irrelevant, right? How one man`s jollys get off is own his business, right? Maybe homosexuality more socially acceptable now because tv shows are telling people that it is ok. But what is socially acceptable? Well what if a man gets his jollys off with little boys the same way it became socially acceptable in ancient Rome? Is it because he was born that way?
  178. Profile photo of madest
    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 3:03 am
    But what is socially acceptable? Well what if a man gets his jollys off with little boys
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    We`ve deemed that a crime. The perpetrator goes to jail that`s what, dummy.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
    3076 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 3:59 am
    come on just ignore his stupid ass and move on!
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 4:43 am
    @sethmccary, examples of homosexuality has been around as long as history has been recorded so no, homosexuality is not an evolution to curb overpopulation. I think homosexuality has always been there to curb overpopulation. Well also to help make this world a little more fabulous.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 7:44 am
    Crakrjak: "No, there are so many teachers that have voiced those same opinions, against conservatives, that parochial school enrollments are at all-time highs."

    Um..I`ve never heard of teachers publicly bashing conservatives, and I tried to find examples. Came up with none, so, no.

    "So what is a conservative family, that can`t afford to send their kids to a parochial school, supposed to do ? Right now, they can`t do anything but send their kids to public school and hope the teachers don`t single them out for ridicule."

    There are conservatives who can`t afford parochial schools? I wonder how they feel about the radical right-wing go0vernors like Rick Scott, Scott Walker, and others who are actively trying to dismantle public schools in our states. Want they want to do here is give everyone $5,000 vouchers to send your kids to private schools. Of course, they cost quite a bit more than that, so the rest is up to you, because of course
  182. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 7:47 am
    (cont.) ...only "lazy Liberals" can`t afford private schools.

    Please...children from conservative families are not being "singled out", and if they were, I wouldn`t support that teacher either.
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    PierreJeanFR Male 40-49
    1360 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 7:50 am
    they didn`t tell if his students were friends on facebook...
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
    685 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 7:58 am
    Uhhh, based on this interview, I would say we would be better off ejecting him from the meme pool...Personal religious affiliations have NO place in Public school, for that matter religion(and creationism/intelligent design) should be kept to classes in theology and history. If you want to proliferate the unfounded belief in the irrational, please teach at a private school
  185. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 8:01 am
    "And what`s with this thinking "anti-gay statement = closet homosexual"? Is this the birth of a new, unfounded stereotype?"

    Larry Craig, Ted Haggard, George "Rentboy" Rekers, Roy Asburn, Phil Hinckle, Jim West, Troy King, Richard Curtis, Ed Shrock, Mark Foley, Marcus Bachmann (probably), Robert Allen...
    Trend? Seems like it, doesn`t it?
  186. Profile photo of markust123
    markust123 Male 40-49
    3889 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 10:07 am
    I am man enough to admit that when I told my brother I was gay he said later that he almost threw up. And my brother is one of the coolest guys you will meet. But then again that is a little more personal than something like gay marriage that doesn`t affect you in any way.
  187. Profile photo of skine
    skine Male 18-29
    719 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 10:36 am
    "But what is socially acceptable? Well what if a man gets his jollys off with little boys the same way it became socially acceptable in ancient Rome? Is it because he was born that way?"

    Being attracted to young boys (or young girls) may be natural.

    However, we`ve made it illegal since a young child cannot consent.
  188. Profile photo of Gerry1of1
    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36646 posts
    August 26, 2011 at 11:05 am

    How far do you go with this Thought-Police mentality?

    If he attends a church that has anti-gay views does he get fired?

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