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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 20, 2011 at 9:54 am
    Link: Ron Paul Answers the Same Question as Mitt - Same guy asks Ron Paul same question.
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 11:59 am
    Ron Paul is numba 1. drat Mitt Romney.
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    Aedran Female 18-29
    295 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    Go Ron Paul!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    August 20, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    Post 9995

    The problem is the stoners all head to Taco Bell instead of the election booth.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3348 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    Good Ol` Ron Paul. He takes the right position on issues like this, and throwing all our money at unnecessary wars, then he turns around and says bat-poo crazy crap like how he wants to get rif of the FDA and the EPA and stuff. Yeah, Ron. Big Pharma and Big OIL are just going to police themselves. We don`t need the feds to keep lead out of our childrens toys made in China, or slaughterhouses using safe methods to prepare our meat, or mining companies using safe practices. Corporate America will do that themselves, right Ronnie? sigh. B-|
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    Klamz Male 18-29
    689 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 12:16 pm
    I see why no one takes this guy seriously, wtf was he going on and on about?
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    blckhawk1234 Male 18-29
    518 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 12:26 pm
    I respect him for this point. But other than this, Ron Paul is drating crazy.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 12:34 pm
    This is why I`d choose Ron over the rest of the competition.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    Jtrebowski: you don`t need entire agencies dedicated to these pursuits. Legislation can be written without creating a massive government entity that needs funding every year and is constantly on the lookout. The FDA and the EPA overstep boundaries of what is reasonable quite often, and they are massive expenses to the taxpayer.

    He`s not against laws, he`s against establishing huge bureaucracies to deal with issues that smaller committees in the legislative branch can. This is especially problematic when you think of all the redundencies. Just look at all of our law enforcement agencies: DOD, NSA, CIA, FBI, ATF, DEA, HSA, TSA (and more I`m sure) Each one clamoring for bigger budgets with their own independent interests.

    Sigh...
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    maddux32 Male 30-39
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    August 20, 2011 at 1:10 pm
    @Klamz

    The fact that federal enforcement infringing on state laws where the constitution is silent is illegal.
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    hwkiller Male 18-29
    490 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    @jtrebowski:
    It`s not about the bit corps policing themselves, it`s about actually allowing a free market to occur.

    If corporations weren`t allowed to lobby for political parties and therefore have interests within legislature (which Ron Paul is very against), then many of these corporations would die off in the free market simply because the consumers wouldn`t buy their service. We all know how crappy insurance and pharma companies are. We could SHOW them with our dollars who we prefer if we could, but we can`t, because they have political backing.
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    Huey Male 30-39
    204 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    Ron Paul would get my vote.
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 1:33 pm
    I drating love this guy, it`s too bad he`ll never get elected.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    [quote">@jtrebowski:
    It`s not about the bit corps policing themselves, it`s about actually allowing a free market to occur.

    If corporations weren`t allowed to lobby for political parties and therefore have interests within legislature (which Ron Paul is very against), then many of these corporations would die off in the free market simply because the consumers wouldn`t buy their service. We all know how crappy insurance and pharma companies are. We could SHOW them with our dollars who we prefer if we could, but we can`t, because they have political backing.[/quote">
    Exactly. Btw, there`s a Ron Paul moneybomb today. Nearly at $1 million already. Go Ron, Go!
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    tbored Male 30-39
    178 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 1:56 pm
    If only he had a bigger voice and bullied the other jackasses running.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
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    August 20, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    @Rawrq, hwkiller, and Pooptart: Ok....I did a bit more research, and I might even be open to the idea that his ideas are better than the staus quo, but there are still things that bother me. I read one article about how he believes that industries will self-regulate themselves because say, if a corporation dumps toxic waste on your property, all you`d have to do is sue them, and the fear of those lawsuits would keep corporations from harming the environment. Here`s the article
    Please. Companies wouldn`t "fear the wrath" as the article puts it. They would, as they often do know, simply consider it the price of doing business.
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    Aedran Female 18-29
    295 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 2:09 pm
    You know, people keep calling him crazy, but why? All his views are solid, and supported by evidence. Because he believes multiple wars are unsustainable? Because he realizes our economy is so screwed up that we really need to stop focusing on paying Israel to be our friend, stop keynesian economics, and start focusing inwards to pay back this national debt which continues to skyrocket under the current administration?
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
    234 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    Ron Paul or die
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    hwkiller Male 18-29
    490 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    @jtre:
    In a truly free market, companies who dump waste into people`s properties would not survive.
    Who would buy products from companies like that? If word got out that they had no regard for the environment in a society that values sustainability and "green"ness, they would fail. They would tank, because people would protest their products by going with a competitor.

    In a truly free market, companies survive if they satisfy a need of the people. Environmental friendliness is now a definite need.

    The only issue I really have with a purely free market is that companies need to be transparent before consumers can make these informed decisions. Of course, those companies that *are* transparent will likely win out...
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    August 20, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    Mandatory minimums- companies that run privatized prisons lobbied HEAVILY for those. It`s all about the rich making money at the expense of the freedom of those who live in this country.
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    NNoamfer Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 2:34 pm
    @Aedran, He wants to stop paying Israel? AWESOME, stupid America needs to get the drat out of the issue of Israel, and this is coming from an Israeli.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    He does bring up some good points here.

    I`m against him, but for other reasons. His position on drugs is... acceptable.
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    lee-schizo Female 18-29
    296 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 2:51 pm
    i think he is just doin this to get votes but hey whatever legalize my pot man.
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
    599 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 3:12 pm
    F*ck the man with the magical underpants. I`m a Ron Paul supporter now.
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    BetterBob Male 18-29
    168 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    He`s a libertarian. All actual libertarians are for legalizing drugs. Look it up.

    Small government = more personal freedom.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3348 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    hwkiller: "They would tank, because people would protest their products by going with a competitor."

    After how much damage had been done? And what`s to prevent like-minded companies to work together as an industry to limit our ability to excersise our power of protest?
    It all sounds good on paper, but I fear it might be a bit naive on his part to think "it`ll all work itself out". My ears are still open though.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 3:43 pm
    not gonna happen.. give up now!
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    vegascartman Male 30-39
    735 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    NNoamfer...funny, every single Israeli I`ve ever met has a different opinion. If anything, MORE money needs to go to Israel, not less.
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
    570 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm
    yeah, just like we are supposed to be out of iraq and have the job market back up to normal by now... politicians can promise anything they want. they lie.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    He makes a good point. What is happening to states` rights?

    I, personally, believe the Democrat party is to blame. They want more and more government programs, thus increasing the size of the government, thus spending shi tons more money than what should be and trampling states` rights.

    I believe each individual state should be run as its own little country, but with a small federal government to take care of things like international affairs.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10722 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm
    If anything, MORE money needs to go to Israel, not less.

    Typical conservative I meet. Fiscally conservative, unless it comes to our allies.
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    Zeegrr60 Male 40-49
    2105 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 6:44 pm
    It`s nice to heat a little sanity. Shame about his son though...
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
    934 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm
    "i think he is just doin this to get votes but hey whatever legalize my pot man."

    He`s been consistent on pretty much every issue since they`ve been issues. He`s always viewed the war on drugs to be a financial burden that only drives up black market prices and costs us the lives of people, both offenders and law enforcement. He also believes in the freedom to do with our bodies and minds as we please, so long as we don`t hurt others.
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    TheNineXXX Male 18-29
    396 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    Tea Party would say the same - What`s better? godbotting cranks or... pretty much the same?
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    "Companies wouldn`t "fear the wrath" as the article puts it. They would, as they often do now, simply consider it the price of doing business."

    Did you read this article completely? It justifies his positions very well.

    You`re right, there have been many companies that have marginalized people`s lives. Still, many of these atrocities were committed with laws in place to prevent them, or the laws weren`t defined well enough at the time. The problem is that soon, regulations stack up so deep that companies have to jump through countless hoops to perform the most basic of tasks. It drives industry out of our country, and it drives up costs to those companies that stay here, which are passed on to us.

    If real harm is done, criminal and civil charges can be brought against corporations and the decision makers. Believe it or not, with the speed at which information travels today, this philosophy can be more effective than federal regulation.
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    Asino Male 18-29
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    August 20, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    Shame no one will vote for him. US should lighten up. Would make the world a better place. ah what the hell.. soon you`ll be puttig together cell-phones for the chinese
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    Aedran Female 18-29
    295 posts
    August 20, 2011 at 9:55 pm
    Asino, did you even look at the polls recently? Ron Paul is beating the other republican candidates. Moderates are starting to really like him because he isn`t your classic "Republican". I`m a registered Republican and I`m going to vote for Ron Paul.
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    slbtiger Female 30-39
    105 posts
    August 21, 2011 at 1:13 am
    Idiots. RP doesn`t believe government should regulate ANYTHING - not just marijuana, but ANY company.

    Internet companies banding together to force up prices on bandwidth? They`ll have support from Paul. Arizona decides to ban all alcohol? Paul advocates states` rights above all else. Georgia plantation using slave labor? It`s all OK with President Paul. I`m not even exaggerating - google "ron paul pro-slavery argument"

    Not to mention that his "flat tax" plan would benefit the rich and choke the poor. When everyone has to pay $2000 tax a year, who gets screwed? The person who makes $20,000. Not the person who makes $200,000.

    And boys and girls, Uncle Sam WILL get his money from somewhere. If not from your paycheck, it`ll come from your sales tax. Imagine a 50 percent sales tax on EVERYTHING - from a gallon of milk to a new car. Guess who`ll feel the pinch on that one? Rich people or poor people?
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    cuthere2 Male 30-39
    317 posts
    August 21, 2011 at 4:34 am
    slbtiger - Nice job with the empty rhetoric there! Apparently you missed the whole idea behind Ron Pauls statements! Not surprising though based on your other comments.

    The government adding 50% sales tax to everything? HAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAAH! More evidence that this flew right over your head! Sorry, if they don`t have the power to stick their noses in everything else, and have been reduced in size to a government more in line with what our forefathers intended - How and why on earth would this imaginary 50% sales tax exist? And considering sales tax is typically a state tax, where would this come from?

    You really should make sure you understand what is being proposed before you open your mouth and attempt liberal fear mongering.
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    SvampeBob Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 6:07 am


    america wouldn`t suck any more
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    August 21, 2011 at 6:16 am
    @slbtiger anything different. What they`re doing now or for the last 30 years hasn`t been working.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 7:31 am
    @slbtiger

    Taking his principles, and answers to gotcha questions to the extreme. He believes that the power to regulate lies with the states and not the federal government. The federal government should deal with international and interstate issues. The states can set their own policies democratically.

    And on the issue of flat tax, in a Ron Paul idealized America, there would be no income tax, no FICA taxes, etc. There wouldn`t be these huge general funds that the government can raid whenever it comes up short. Instead, more money would be retained by the people overall. The only people who would have it "worse off" would be the welfare state dependents, but honestly with the increased availability of jobs thanks to lower regulation would benefit them more in the long run.
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
    234 posts
    August 21, 2011 at 8:49 am
    "Not to mention that his "flat tax" plan would benefit the rich and choke the poor. When everyone has to pay $2000 tax a year, who gets screwed? The person who makes $20,000. Not the person who makes $200,000. "

    Ummm im pretty sure by `flat tax` he means a flat percentage across the board... you know, instead of say 30% for the poor and oooh 0% for the rich?
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    junkaroo Male 30-39
    234 posts
    August 21, 2011 at 8:52 am
    "Georgia plantation using slave labor? It`s all OK with President Paul. I`m not even exaggerating - google "ron paul pro-slavery argument" "
    Calling shenanigans. I did, and found nothing of note. Take your made-up BS and go home.
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 10:18 am
    That`s why I wrote him in in 2008 people.
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    BoredIAm Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    What a whiney little pussy. I want it for me because I am in a wheel chair, but no one else. If he doesn`t like Romney and Guliani`s answers he should vote the drat who he agrees with. jesus Christ.
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    Mr_Pedo_Bear Male 70 & Over
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    August 21, 2011 at 1:04 pm
    @hwkiller: "They would tank, because people would protest their products by going with a competitor."

    How many companies using child and sweatshop Labour are doing alright? Shell have a massive oil leak in scotland people still buying their petrol... People don`t give a rats arse about stuff like this as long as it`s not being done to them...
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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 3:54 pm
    In a truly free market, companies who dump waste into people`s properties would not survive.
    Who would buy products from companies like that? ... They would tank, because people would protest their products by going with a competitor.
    Back in the days when America didn`t really regulate the economy, this was the belief and policy. Let`s see how that turned out:

    A) Quite a bit of damage was done before people learned the truth or decided to care.

    B) By that time, those companies had saved quite a bit of money, since it`s cheaper, and were some of the most successful businesses around.

    C) Being the most powerful businesses around, they drove their competition out of business, giving people no choice but to buy their product or go without, and sometimes the companies in question sold things that are virtually essential for everyday living.

    That system worked well, didn`t it?
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 5:45 pm
    Altaru:

    It`s a different age today. With the internet, watchdog groups and state legislation and regulatory boards (which Ron Paul is NOT against), this can be covered. The problem with the federal government doing it is that they set up huge agencies that cost billions to maintain, and their budgets always go up each year, regardless of necessity.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    August 21, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    "Ummm im pretty sure by `flat tax` he means a flat percentage across the board... you know, instead of say 30% for the poor and oooh 0% for the rich?"

    There is a valid argument that a flat sales tax will impact the poor more, because in a purely flat tax system, only money that is not spent is untaxed. So the poor, who have to spend most of their money (percentage-wise) on food, bills, etc, pay more of their income percentage on taxes.

    That said, in a world without FICA, income tax, etc, a reasonable flat tax rate might end up costing the poor less than current taxes. It all depends on the government`s spending level.
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    slbtiger Female 30-39
    105 posts
    August 21, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    Rawrg: BP, Wal-Mart, McDonald`s, Apple, Target, Nestle, and Honda have all had bad press since Internet watchdogs have been around to bark. They`re still thriving.

    Bad Press Hasn`t Hurt WalMart

    Cuthere2: Yeah, the idea of government adding a sales tax to say, cigarettes or alcohol or cars is a complete fairy tale, right?

    Tax history - federal sales tax

    Junkaroo, since you`re too dumb to use Google, here you go:

    Link 1

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    Altaru Male 18-29
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    August 22, 2011 at 11:52 am
    Rawrg, not that I also mentioned "before the people... decided to care."

    There are plenty of companies around now that have been through a LOT of protests, and thrive to this day. Take WalMart for example.

    WalMart has gone through hell and high-water with all the issues it`s faced. If you ask the internet, it`s nearly impossible to find someone who DOESN`T hate WalMart.

    So how are there still WalMarts tanking local economies and poorly treating workers everywhere?

    Because no one cared about them until Walmart was successful enough that they didn`t have to care. Even if some horrible truth comes out about Walmart, they can lower their prices and their millions of dumb, ignorant and apathetic customers will flock in until they`ve made up any lost money.

    Dollar diplomacy doesn`t always result in the right candidates being elected, I`m afraid.
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