Feminism

Submitted by: avalon 6 years ago in Entertainment

We are always wrong.
There are 85 comments:
Male 646
It`s sad this has such a low rating. Grab your ankles, guys.
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Male 89
im not even watching, cant stand feminism, it makes no sense and seems to do more harm then good. draten retarded.
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Female 418
So who pays on the first date when its a lesbian couple?
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Male 286
This video was definitely one sided but it did have a couple of valid points on some dbl standards that still apply. I agree men shouldn`t always be expected to pay for everything, but if you can`t afford to spring for the first date, then you probably should save up and not go out. I`m in a long term relationship and we both make around the same amount. We live together, split the bills right down the middle, and we both take turns paying for nights out, concerts & trips equally....its a pretty simple concept
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Female 46
Some women get killed for being raped....so maybe amongst all the stupid girls who want their cheeseburgers for free there are some who need help...
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Female 1,236
How hateful. Very unattractive.
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Male 599
@LemonTarte
Wow IAB. At first it used to make me upset. Now it`s just sad.

"I think this is the only site I`ve ever been to that tries so desperately hard to hate on women and incite it`s users to do the same.

GParadox, thanks for your reason in a thread full of irrationality."

Really now did you expect a think tank of intellectual discussions to solve world problems here? Welcome to the real world. It was irrational of you to think such of IAB to begin with.
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Male 1,231
Seems like it was made by a guy who`s been cheated on. Very spurious, one sided argument. I`ve got nothing against feminists; I treat them the same way I treat most militant religious folk when the attempted indoctrination starts; ignore them and go and make a sammich :)
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Female 1,441
Wow IAB. At first it used to make me upset. Now it`s just sad.

I think this is the only site I`ve ever been to that tries so desperately hard to hate on women and incite it`s users to do the same.

GParadox, thanks for your reason in a thread full of irrationality.
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Male 382
LOL at the comments of Men should pay for the first date. Fine..

Women should always cook dinner.
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Female 185
Wow, all the good points (of which there are several) were completely over shadowed by the apparent hate of the vagina. Must be a gay queen or at least some 30 year old man living in his Mother`s basement who secretly hates her because he wants to bone her. >_<;
That said, yeah, he`s right. I wholeheartedly agree that whoever does the asking out should state the intentions right away, and that some girls can be absolute bitches. I was dating one awhile ago who is the exact definition of everything wrong with feminism. I think she was a lesbian because she wanted to stick it to men that she wasn`t available. Which is really what is wrong with feminism in general. Not true women power (or pride in womanhood), but more of a "lets stick it to the guys" mentality.
Awhile ago a video was posted from this really angry yelling guy who was pissed at Sharon Osbourne for laughing at the guy whose wife cut off his dick and put it in the garbage disposal. Watch it. It`s
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Male 599
We all know women secretly envy and desire to be men.




Thomas Beatie
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Male 192
@7:45 "if you are born a man, ...." i know how true that is. my brother was stabbed 7 times with a letter opener, his wife was asleep in bed with no marks,and who do you think was arrested? the cops didn`t even take him to the hospital, and congratulated her.
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Male 102
@unmercyful

Way to miss the point. The point being that women want to be considered equal, yet I`ve never heard of a feminist rally to get women forced to register for selective service.

Though from experience, soldiers that are forced to be in are about worthless anyway, had to kick way too many out when I was in. But my point still stands.


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Female 87
Let`s pile up the most random load of pop culture clutter we can to make women as an entire group look as bad as possible. Cuz we hate women.
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Male 2,855
sounds legit
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Male 39,560

I think the Feminist Movement has been very succesful.
Just look around at how affective it`s been at effeminizing the modern male. Bunch of effing pussies, the lot.

And then women complain they can`t find a "real man". That they`re all momma`s boys. You made them ladie, enjoy your handiwork.
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Male 54
Also, all that video did for me was give me a fledgling hardon...
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Male 54
I love how all of the inventions credited to women in that video are all related to the kitchen, child-care, or female hygiene. Nice try, but FAIL.
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Male 243
The reason I`m single is because I don`t put up with their bullpoo. One night stands about twice a month, but no gf lol
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Male 385
I am very against hitting woman...but there is nothing in the rule book about picking one up and chucking them like a sack of potatoes.
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Male 12,365
[quote]The male paying on the first date does NOT mean women don`t want equality.[/quote]

Note the use of `male` and `women`. It`s not a trivial difference, because at the very least it`s defining male people and only male people entirely by their sex. But in your case it can`t be just that. Since you`re a feminist, you must define everyone by their sex (feminism is obviously impossible without doing that as a first step in everything).

[quote]Feminism is equality in rights.[/quote]

That is such a ridiculous lie that it would be funny if it hadn`t done so much damage to the idea of sexual equality.

Feminism is a biological group advocacy ideology. That`s why it`s named that way. That`s why all its writing and action is biological group advocacy - because it`s a biological group advocacy ideology.
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Male 2,790
i very quickly skipped threw it, but by the looks of the preview before you play it, the women bewbs are blurred. now, you wouldn`t blur out a mans chest would you? so this just proves that women have created feminism...oh yes...this argument can all go away is you just un-blur your boobs
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Male 2,172
If I made the invitation, I pay. If she made the invitation, she pays.

Simple.
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Male 40,304
20 minutes? No thank you!

Womens: Can`t live with em, difficult to be hetero without em.
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Male 73
Feminism... what a joke.
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Male 54
I`m so glad I`m queer
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Male 762
"I`ll support equality when US women sign up for selective service."

Women can`t sign up for selective services, even if they wanted to. So your argument is because inequality is written into our law, you will continue to treat other humans without equality. It is not a choice of women not to sign up, so how can you blame them? You act as if they are making the choice not to do something you probably wouldn`t have done if not forced to. Your argument is ridiculous.
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Male 533
"I`ll support equality when US women sign up for selective service."

This
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Male 25,417
Cant we agree... woman are trouble! But we still love ya..
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Male 762
Guess what! These women are not feminists! What a stupid video.
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Male 2
just like men, women have to gain the respect of everyone around them... there are men who feel that they are superior because of sex, and there are women who feel the same... there are men who are selfish pigs, and deserve to be treated as such by everyone! but it is ridiculous to generalize an entire gender based off of the feelings of one. history has been poor to women, and i can`t change that. all i can do is try to treat women with as much respect as i would treat anybody else... but i would like to say, the first date should be paid for by whomever asked the other out. if the woman asked, she pays, and vice versa... and if i volunteer to pay, that`s not because they are a women but because i hate having others pay when they are spending time with me. :P
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Female 9
idiot.
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Male 2
although the maker of this video seems to be anti women, i do have to agree that some "feminists" can be ridiculous... not all are entitled, but there are A LOT who feel that do treat men like poo and feel that Everything should be given to them... @madduck- more power to you, for actually following through with your ideals. this video is more towards those who do make men pay, but say they wanna be complete equals. i have complete respect for women who truly seek equality, but i despise those who use their stature as women to make men miserable... i know both standards, and i like to make sure everyone knows the difference between "crazy" feminists and reasonable feminists... the maker of this video put them all down as "crazy" but there are several reasonable ones. and by reasonable, i mean ones who want equality and not to just put men down...
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Male 2,841
Can`t we just agree that we`re all braindead hypocrites?
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Female 7,997
Can`t watch it all- too angry! How dare they suggest that I would expect- even ALLOW a man to pay for me. I would never, ever expect to do anything other than stand on my own two feet and pay for myself. I am the equal of a man- I may not be as strong as many men but that is as far as it goes. I am not a sex object- I should not have to wear `nice` clothes- but if I choose to it is to please me - not a man. Dumb vid, stupid pointless antagonistic thing to do.
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Female 379
wow, I couldn`t even watch all of this >.< it`s so wrong. Yes there are stupid women out there, loads of them. there are also loads of stupid men.
I believe in actual equality. Back when I was dating I didn`t expect a guy to pay for me, because if I was enjoying the date too (which is the only reason I`d go on it) then why shouldn`t I pay my share?
This is totally made by someone with horrible biases, I`d bet he`s got a horrible personality on top of that. Here`s a hint, dude who made the video: the reason why women don`t like you isn`t cause you don`t have money, it`s because you`re an ass that stereotypes them.
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Male 102
I like this video.
The comments are better though.
Women - hate it
Girly men - hate it,because their feminist wives told them to.

It was quite accurate.
I`ll support equality when US women sign up for selective service.
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Male 773
`the different views are incompatible together. This is a mess of editing and has no cohesive voice.`

I`m pretty sure you just described most females.
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Male 533
This reminds me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iG1rX3VV-zg

Also, I heard feminism started by conspiracy. Something about the Gov`t wanting to tax whole household income or some bs. LOL
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Female 59
You know, I`ve been hanging around guys so much these `make me a sandwich` jokes and talks about how snivy and coniving women are make me think that men are just terrified of women. Seriously, you`ve been whining about how EVERY woman does something like gets a free meal from you for years. Honestly, I think if girls started to band together and make jokes about you you`d just complain. It`s like a ridiculous fight to see who can stereotype more and aggressively get tops.
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Male 358
No matter which side of the whole feminism/women vs. men debate you fall on, I think we can all agree on one thing: Miley Cyrus has a horrible man voice. I`m pretty sure she has a deeper voice than James Earl Jones.
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Female 737
Wow, these comments became interesting fast.

Its not necessary for anyone to pay if you don`t go out to eat.

This video is very... angry. It shows women with different points of views and then the commentary mocks them because the different views are incompatible together. This is a mess of editing and has no cohesive voice.
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Female 1,356
pretty pooty
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Male 1,610
I`ve gone on plenty of `dutch` first dates. Everything went better than expected. I`ve also gone on dates where the girl freaked out when I suggested be both pay for our own share. Imo, it`s a good way of telling if things will go any further.
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Male 45
1) This video sucked. Not in quality, but in the way it tried to portray its message: women ask for equality, yet they cling to the ideal that a man should be the main financial player in the relationship.
2)at the same time, I kinda agree that a lot of women ask for complete opposing standards. If a woman makes less than her partner, I can understand paying. If the woman makes the same amount, fine. equality. If dutch doesn`t work for you, go with paying for each other every so often.
Why should the dude be EXPECTED to foot the bill. If a woman makes a lot more than their partner, chances are they`ll try and find someone closer to their salary range. If they`re awesome, they`ll take the main financial role, but still...
3)did i say this video sucks...
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Female 1,589
Yes, first date, guy pays. After that I`ll pay for my own stuff. Unless he INSISTS. Which is what my ex always did...even if he had no money.
But I paid for the both of us sometimes. We would go to a concert, and I would buy us both tickets and never asked him to pay me back.
This is how it`s always been when I go out with a guy.
I don`t understand these guys who are so pissed off about having to pay on the first date. They must have had some cheap girlfriends.
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Male 17,512
Ladies, If you want the respect and the equality then quit treating men like Pigs and ATMs.

I have much more respect for women that take responsibility for their own instead of those that want `sugar daddies`. You have to earn respect ladies, you can`t expect it to be given to you if you don`t give any yourself.
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Male 694
This is so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad.
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Male 1,442
Yea there are alot of double standards, but this video is clearly made by some pissed off virgin. Cutting small parts of speachs off then adding women dressed as nazis after is stupid.
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Female 167
Why the drat is this offensive poo posted here. From the comments section of the video the uploader said

"Feminism can never work because it presumes that women have the same mental capacity as men. It`s pretty clear that women are too dumb to even debate men, let alone determine what`s `equal` for both genders. This video proves that women simply lack the mental capacity to compete against men. "

This is the kind of stuff we`re posting here now?
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Female 167
Wow, someone is bitter.
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Male 2,199
wow that was clearly made by a woman hater, and on the topic of paying for everything in a date, if you asked her out, you pay, and vice versa its like that with everything... and since most guys are the ones who ask girls on dates, thats just how its gunna be...
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Male 878
Now I`m REALLY bored.
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Female 723
Someone`s bitter or a troll, perhaps both.
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Male 79
> What pisses me off is men and woman ARE different. They should equal rights, not equal roles.

Yes! Exactly! And there ARE women in this world who do not have such *rights*, notably in muslim societies and many third world countries. THESE women should be fought for, and none other. As for the sexual liberation... what a load of bullcrap! Have you ever seen a movie with a man`s penis lately... well let me tell you, there are a lot more women naked bodies out there than there are mens, so shut the hell up! Sexual liberation is the source of why men exploit women so much!

I married a feminist, and she does not agree with this movie. I consider myself "masculinism" and I do not agree with this movie either. Problems are coming from both side, as far as I am concern. Take your own responibilities, shut up and stop whining.
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Male 5,314
boring. made it about 2 mins.
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Male 265
"I`m looking for someone who is equal in intelligence, equal in job security, and equal income to me (among other things)."

This is one of the main reasons spurring issues that women have in finding a partner and a major contributing factor to the decrease in marriages (by percent of the population) over the past decades. It is expected that a man should be in a relationship with a woman who either has a lesser income or none at all. However it is unacceptable to many women when the roles are reversed and the female makes more.

To be relationship material there is the expectation that a man needs to be equal or greater than the woman in multiple categories (mostly income). However when men make more money than women in a society, it is seen as barbaric and anti-fem.

Ending note to men: Many men are lead around by their genitals in life, please stop... you`re not helping. If you don`t like it, invest in a fleshlight.
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Female 97
This was so stupid, I don`t even know where to begin.
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Female 105
Why would you post this? it`s an incredibly stupid, poorly edited and offensive video.
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Male 848
Yay! More misconceptions about feminism!
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Male 3,894
This is so goddamn poorly edited it hurts.

Don`t expect anything from anyone. Gender is irrelevant. If I offer to pay for your meal, smile and thank me and tell me you appreciate it. If I don`t, then for the love of god you better not act like you missed out on something you were owed. Because I will rip your throat out and feed it to the swarm of flesh-devouring larvae that inhabit my dorm.
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Male 1,122
If a woman is not willing to pay for my meal on the first date she can kiss my ass good bye.
I`m looking for a girl who can afford to maintain a dual income household in a modern society and if you are too broke to even pay for 1 extra meal then I guess its the door for you.

P.S. that video was crap, keep rocking women.
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Male 3,477
I enjoyed the show. I guess I`m not the only one that notices the flip-flop take on it all.
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Female 1,743
I`m with Gerry.
I didn`t make it that far into the video. It was mostly nonsense.
Anyway, If a guy asks me out, I let him pay. If I had asked a guy out, I would offer to pay. I don`t know many girls who ask guys on dates, and non of them EXPECT a guy to pay. *shrug*

I, on the other hand, am in a long term relationship where there is no "asking out". It`s more of, "I`m freaking hungry, and I don`t feel like making dinner, so let`s go to Perkins." lol. We share bills and I`m having his baby in two months and we live together. We`re not married, but essentially we share income. So, the point is moot. When he spends money, it`s like I`m spending my own money. So meh.
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Male 684
typically male...you know they person who made this video hasn`t gotten laid in a long while, if ever.
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Female 1,172
We are the reason for the dual income household.
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Male 280
The point about paying at the date is valid.
After that it stopps into blatant sexism.

Aederan, no. You could also say that not automatically paying for everything could be a sign of a man respecting the independency of a woman.
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Female 6,381
I say whoever asked the other out should pay for the evening. Women equal enough to ask a guy out - and they still seems rare to me - should pony up themselves.
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Female 146
@aedran I completely agree.....if I am made to pay on a FIRST date that I was asked on, I can only assume that he`s cheap, or he`s not that into me.....
now if I did the asking, then I`ll probably pay.....but what the hell does it matter whether you pay or not, you should be able to show her you appreciate her somehow, sometimes that may be paying, sometimes it may be some other way.....this shouldn`t be a struggle of wills.....why do people argue about who pays? If paying is what my guy needs me to do to show him I care, I`ll pay....I really don`t understand the big deal.....if you`re so strapped for cash do something free
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Male 1,057
@aedran: So, all things being EQUAL, if you don`t pay your share on the date we can assume you "are broke, live in your mom`s basement, and haven`t had a stable job in a few years" right?
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Female 295
Pahleeze. The male paying on the first date does NOT mean women don`t want equality. Feminism is equality in rights. I have the right to pay for dinner, but if I do, it tells me you are broke, live in your mom`s basement, and haven`t had a stable job in a few years. I`m looking for someone who is equal in intelligence, equal in job security, and equal income to me (among other things). If you can`t even fork the money over for dinner, that tells me you don`t. Sorry, but while you maybe looking for the best pussy, I`m looking for the best partner both personality-wise and financially.

And before someone criticizes me for thinking about money: You can`t buy a home, raise healthy kids, and provide the best opportunities for them with love. Anyone who thinks otherwise clearly needs a reality check.
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Male 39,560

P.S.

Gentlemen..... pay for the date.
Ladies .... swallow
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Male 39,560

I lasted 3 minutes
after that it seemed the same

20 minutes... way too long
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Male 10,855
ever heard of "sex-positive feminism"?
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Male 688
Propaganda much?
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Male 621
What pisses me off is men and woman ARE different. They should equal rights, not equal roles.
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Male 17
Context? NEVER!
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Male 15,184
I always pay on the first date, for every date, but I never take her out to dinner, if you get my meaning. Keep it simple, uncomplicated, cheap. Keep it professional.
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Male 4,867
this comment section is gonna be golden
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Female 3,574
I think whoever asked the other person out should pay. I just think if you invite someone somewhere, you should pay for it.

I agree with this video in a sense. There are way too many double standards in our society. That said, it goes both ways.
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Female 10
Ugh. Having random women talking about their views (which are counter-feminist) does not equal women talking about feminism. Most feminists that are actually fighting for women`s rights ARE fighting for equality.
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Female 407
being a gentleman and equality are two different things. just because you pay on the first place doesn`t mean sh.it isnt equal. it`s the nice thing to do. now lets make a big deal about it.
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Male 1,931
Just witched to 9:10 and saw Ann Coulter. Immediately: NOPE!
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Male 187
Link: Feminism [Rate Link] - We are always wrong.
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