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Date: 07/05/11 11:37 AM

42 Responses to Woman Arrested For Speaking At Council Meeting

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
    8033 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Link: Woman Arrested For Speaking At Council Meeting - J. Jones arrested for speaking on accusations made towards the Quartzsite AZ council on a recall vote.Is it right I-A-B?
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3275 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 11:52 am
    She was arrested for resisting arrest, not for speaking out of turn. The initial action by the police was incorrect, but the arrest was correct. When the police give you an order, lawful or not, and you resist physically, as she did, you are resisting arrest.
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    IrishJesus Male 18-29
    483 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 11:56 am
    The mayor was really fighting for her, and that gives me hope. This is a sad sign of the times, where we`ve rolled on our backs and let the government and police take our freedom of speech.
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    Gottamgear Male 18-29
    670 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    @Rick_S
    So what was the original crime that she was resisting arrest for? What was the charge she was being arrested for (that she resisted)? They started to restrain her at the `order` of the council for speaking. She resisted that restraint because she had the right to speak. Why did they restrain her? She was calm.
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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
    747 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    I don`t know if she was right in principle or not, but she made the mistake of addressing the public rather than addressing the council, which I assume was the purpose. Interesting fight over Robert`s Rules of Order, if you`re into that kind of thing, but otherwise just a vid of angry people being angry.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
    2172 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    It`s Bull S**t. They could have let her say what she had to say. "You are in violation of my rule of orders." Could easily be changed by "Respect my authoritah!" with the voice of Eric Cartman.

    It`s nice that they have the right to do so in case there are some people who try to prevent the meeting from occuring or to prevent them from deliberatly make noise and spill out all the nonsense you don`t want to hear at those meetings but what she was talking about, if I heard correctly, was about taxes.

    Way to go america.
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    nny156 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    she wasnt arrested for reisiting arrest dumbass. the mayor himself told those cops to back off of her and they broke the law by arresting her that board and that entire police force needs to be fired.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
    4345 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    she made her point, the thing is, now you, the general public is supposed to do something about it.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3275 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    "she wasnt arrested for reisiting arrest dumbass."

    Yes, she was. You can here the officer say something along the lines of "don`t resist" or "stop resisting."

    "So what was the original crime that she was resisting arrest for?" You said it yourself, the police incorrectly intervened to make her stop talking. Had she surrendered the microphone, and waited for the mayor and the council to sort it out, or just spoke without the microphone, she wouldn`t have been resisting, and wouldn`t have been arrested.
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    Mailbox Male 18-29
    255 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:27 pm
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
    1832 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    the guy saying "sergeant" over and over sounds like Forrest Gump.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3441 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm
    Bull pucky!
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    Trapper222 Male 18-29
    47 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:35 pm
    She was arrested for attempting to assert her rights. Everyone knows you only have those rights as long as you don`t assert them.
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    number1man Male 13-17
    240 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    @Rick
    Don`t be dumb you`re basically saying if a cop comes to try to have sex with you and you don`t want them to you can`t resist or they have the right to arrest you.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Looks like one redneck ass town
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
    868 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 1:02 pm
    They missed an excellent opportunity to use a taser.
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    simbha Male 30-39
    412 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 1:11 pm
    @Rogue_knight: "They missed an excellent opportunity to use a taser."

    Somehow, I think they`ll get plenty more opportunities if they`re looking for them. /sigh
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    July 5, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    the purpose of "addressing the council" is to address the council. Not talk to the body of spectators. When told to step down, she should have.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3275 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 1:39 pm
    "Don`t be dumb you`re basically saying if a cop comes to try to have sex with you and you don`t want them to you can`t resist or they have the right to arrest you."

    Having sex is not part of a police officers duty. Maintaining order in a meeting hall such as this is part of their job.

    Let`s say that you`re standing on your yard, minding your own business, filming your kids play. A police officer comes over and tells you to put the camera down. You refuse, because it`s your lawn and you`re within your rights to film your kid on your lawn. The officer starts to arrest you for not following his order, and you physically resist.

    The officer was wrong in his initial order. You were within your rights to continue to record your child on your lawn. You still resisted the wrongful arrest being made, and therefore are resisting arrest. Depending on the severity of your resisting, you`ll probably have the charges dropped, and maybe get paid for your troub
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3275 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 1:40 pm
    "the purpose of "addressing the council" is to address the council. Not talk to the body of spectators. When told to step down, she should have."

    She was told to step down by someone who didn`t have the authority to do it, and should not have stepped down. The person running the meeting repeatedly backed her up. She shouldn`t have resisted the officer`s orders, however.
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    jsatan Male 18-29
    256 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 2:35 pm
    All I can say is WOW! So this is where it`s going, enjoy the ride! lol
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 2:55 pm
    I can gurantee you that if a officer refuses to comply with a lawful order issued to him by the mayor, who is essintially in charge of the police dept. that officer will be fired.

    the mayor has the authority to put officers on review and bring them before a hearing to determine if they were insubordinate and believe me, from the few times I have seen this happen, the officer loses.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 3:25 pm
    free speech, who needs it? :P
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    drworm2002 Male 30-39
    662 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    @jamie76 not all mayors have the same power. It depends on the city charter
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    zombunny Female 18-29
    2525 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    Guess we know which council members are slipping more cash to the police department in that city.
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    dremkast Male 18-29
    69 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 4:17 pm
    Quartzite, AZ Town Code

    Go read sections 2-2-4 and 2-4-6
    The mayor is not given any particular power, and as soon as one council member requests that a member of the public step down from the podium they are supposed to do so.
    If you wanna get totally technical...
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    iGamer Male 18-29
    187 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    Never thought i`d see my High School Town on I-A-B. . That whole board and the cops there are sketch as hell. . .
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    CaptainPabst Male 18-29
    1250 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    We dun like wut u say and since we are > u gtfo
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    DShephard Male 18-29
    1595 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    Of course! Women have no place in Council. (That`s obviously a joke.)

    All kidding aside, they were pulling her out, which was all they went to do, she resisted and therefor was arrested.

    She was not arrested for speaking, but rather not leaving when told to do so.

    Telling her to leave in the situation present was also not wise, so they have some blame too.

    Long story short: People screw up.
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    plastinum Male 30-39
    329 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 6:00 pm
    Pink slips all around I say! I`m tired of seeing people bullied by government. Walkouts only allow them to do what they are gonna do. What they should have done was each go up and continue her speech for her and let them try to arrest the whole room. Good to see they get their recount.
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 6:07 pm
    wow. police state anyone? the politicians are in on it.
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    cyborg Male 13-17
    2790 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    nothing new here. just more stupid people
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    CalyxMalakai Male 18-29
    47 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 9:22 pm
    Happens far too often here I`m afraid. Makes a man want to expatriate.
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
    2385 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 9:36 pm
    she had the right to speak, but the mayor didnt like what she was saying and pulled her hired goons out on her... police state is upon us, we have to fight now!!!! tsa/homeland security my dick. one day we will wake up in 1984 (the novel of course)
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    Neagle Male 30-39
    1407 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    Mayoral recall vote is 8-30-2011. I guess that is where it starts.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
    2868 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 10:13 pm
    It wasn`t the mayor ordering her to step down, as some have suggested in this thread. The Mayor was ordering the police to leave her alone so she could speak.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
    192 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    @ DShephard were you watching the same video i did? from what i heard she said something the bald guy didnt like and he had her removed. Someone off screen tried to stand up for her rights, but didnt work. Fire the cops and the bald guy is what i say, but as long as we live in a police state masked as a democracy, sadly, this will continue to happen
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    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    July 5, 2011 at 11:16 pm
    That was retarded. The mayor wasn`t having her arrested, it was the rest of the council violating procedure because they didn`t like it. They guy on the left was trying to call a vote, even though they aren`t allowed to when someone has the floor.

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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    July 6, 2011 at 12:06 am
    This woman had the floor and the right to speak, no one can interrupt that except the leader giving her the floor in the first place.

    The councilperson`s interruption was out of order according to standard parliamentary procedure.

    The lady speaking had the floor, she was not being violent or threatening in anyway, therefore the police should`ve stood down and let her talk. You can bet there will be lawsuits over that illegal arrest.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
    1707 posts
    July 6, 2011 at 6:16 am
    This was a stunt, possibly setup between the mayor and J.J. The thing I found odd, is how she is only there to address the public, is that not a misuse of the system? I don`t know how it all works, I just know your supposed to address the guys behind the benches, not turn your back to them and push your agenda on the audience.
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    Luniz82 Male 18-29
    588 posts
    July 6, 2011 at 8:03 am
    Sounds like that Mayor is gonna make some heads roll for this. Also I don`t think that guy will be on the council much longer if this is how he is gonna treat the public.
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    Amurika Male 30-39
    282 posts
    July 6, 2011 at 11:46 am
    Fascist gonna fascist!

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