The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam

Submitted by: outdoorMINER 6 years ago in

The title speaks for itself. [Some pretty brutal images, but very enlightening.]
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Female 3,001
this made me cry :(
especially the women`s circumcision bit, its so horrible
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Female 87
Islam, or religions in general= the ultimate brainwashing.
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Male 676
Also, what a bunch of badass men. They can beat up and terrorize women. Woohoo tough guys. I really think they treat their women that way because they prefer other men. Why does it upset people so much when we go after Islamic cultures? Is this not true, what`s in the video? We`ve all seen it several times before. Women don`t have rights over there. A girl gets raped and it`s her fault? And people whine about how we treat these idiots in Guantanamo and other places.
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Male 676
That`s why I laugh when people say we have no right to kill these guys. Look at what they do to their own women. Even then Koran endorses this type of behavior. Someone has to give these women a voice. Absolutley sad.
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Female 105
I abhor any religion that deems it necessary to treat women as dogs. My grandmother lived in Saudi for 20 years.. from the 70`s to the 80`s.. and can still tearfully recall women having their hands cut off, stoned to death, and beaten to death by their own family. It still happens every day. Women try desperately to protest with their own lives at stake for the most simplest things we take for granted. They have to have a male guardian driving, nor may any female may be in the front seat at any time, or they will often be jailed and beaten.. for DRIVING. If their husbands think that they glanced at another man on the street.. they will beat them right there and even have the right to deem the harlots for lusting after another man, for GLANCES.
The men there are f-ing insane and often taunted my grandmother because they believed American women were sleazy. She was even on lock down at an embassy because a british woman was kidnapped by Saudi men. =( They never found her.Its all rea
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Female 46
@BO_SHAYEB
You make me sick. To even say something like that is putrid. This is a very real video and this is happening in our world while we all eat our ben and jerrys and cry over our hang nails. So shut the drat up.
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Male 124
I am still bored. and now depressed. way to go IAB.

Besides bad people are bad, no matter what their religion, what their race is, or what their BMI is.
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Female 1
How sad to see people who don`t.
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Male 275
How sad to see people believe this kind of vids.
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Female 917
My views: It doesn`t matter what country this is in, it doesn`t matter what religion they follow, or what their religion states. It just needs to stop.

It`s when people start bickering over the details of the who, what, when, where that you forget the problem at hand. I don`t believe that everyone should jump on the hate wagon against Muslims or Islam, but there definitely needs to be awareness raised, and pressure put on any country that has these practices happening to stop. They probably do have laws forbidding events like these from occurring, but until they truly start enforcing them and putting an end to a public acceptance of violence towards women, things will never change.
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Male 12,365
I wish people would look at some history, rather than mindlessly believing propaganda.

I wouldn`t be surprised if you think "history" is a shortened form of "his story".
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Male 12,365
[quote]"rule of thumb" sound familiar? (A man was allowed to beat his wife as he wanted as long as the stick was no wider than the thickness of his thumb.) For centuries a man was able to beat and murder their wives with barely any consequences... it happened[/quote]

Feminist revisionism for the purposes of propaganda is not the same as reality, no matter how many times you`ve been told to believe it without thinking, let alone checking.

The origin of the phrase "rule of thumb" is the use of a thumb as a measuring device (i.e. a rule). An experienced artisan could get an adequately accurate measurement that way, which is why "rule of thumb" means "an adequately accurate guide derived from experience".

The feminist revisionist nonsense doesn`t make any sense, has no connection to the meaning of the phrase and didn`t appear until centuries after the phrase was in common usage.

And no, men couldn`t murder their w
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Male 698
1235 planets found I-A-B



The other planets could be worse.
However should we contact other planets when there are problems on planet earth? Censorship would make the problems worse.
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Female 382
f*cked up
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Male 2,229
Religion-a way to have an imaginary friend without having to see a shrink.
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Male 28
fundamental difference: a mormon woman is not killed for showing her face. nor is her clitoris removed to prevent sexual liberation.
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Male 675
I`ve actually read pieces of the Qur`an. It is the most male chauvinistic, brainwashing, hateful book I`ve ever had the displeasure of reading.

See, the Qur`an says that Allah is the same God that gave the Christians the Gospel and the Jews the Torah, yet apparently they are the ones who are right, everyone else is wrong, and they`ll kill anyone who believes otherwise. It also actually says its okay to beat your wife(s) if they disobey you, that everyone who isn`t Muslim is going to Hell, and that Jesus (this one is golden) was Islamic, not Jewish (this is just a side not but bear with me for a second; if Jesus was Muslim and performed miracles, why is Muhammad so much more important when he could not?)

It also says that women who have sex before marriage should be punished severely, but men can basically get off the hook with nothing. Actually if you ask me, this is a great argument for homosexuality to be legal in Islam.
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Male 183
First of all, can we clear up one thing: by definition, a religion is based on a shared belief or dogma. A-theism is now so organized as to dogmatic itself.
As to Muslim dress codes and treatment of women, we should look no further than this country and some of the more fundamental sects, both Protestant and Mormon, and clean our own house before we start condemning others - let alone waging war on them.
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Male 40,242

chimneychang said [quote]" i would like to point out that there are plenty of women in my city right now that are being rented by pimps who use addiction and fear to control them also there are plenty of non Muslims trafficking human female sex slaves globally." [/quote]

Yes... and those men are criminals. That behavior is not tolerated or allowed by society. That`s the main differance. The slavery of women is not condoned by our governments, only islamic ones.
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Male 161
atheism or agnosticism are the way to go people. seriously, f religion.
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Male 2,790
is this why we`re at war?



all kidding aside, that is aweful
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Male 266
Chimmeychang: atheists being sexists? you kidding me? I have yet to meet an atheist guy who doesn`t think women are equal to men and deserve the same rights than them.
The difference between islam and pimps is that pimps are sociopathic mysoginist non-nice individuals and islam is a sociopathic mysoginist anti-humanist fear mongering double faced religion with billions of followers who have yet to have their religion dragged out of the dark ages kicking and screaming by secularists into modernity, like they did with christianity.
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Male 684
also, i would like to point out that there are plenty of women in my city right now that are being rented by pimps who use addiction and fear to control them also there are plenty of non Muslims trafficking human female sex slaves globally. I would like to point out that gender oppression is not specific to Islam.I do not know enough about Islam to speak on the subject, I do however know that in almost every culture women are not seen as equals, even among the atheists and agnostics. I don`t think the problem is that men see women as less than they are, its more that men tend to delude themselves into believing that they are far more important than reality would indicate. Take the time to really analyze what it is you specifically bring to the table. What function in the continued existence and evolution of our species do you play?
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Male 698
The video is very depressing.
Is self defense information allowed in those places?
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Male 40,242
@Wendypants

yes, centuries ago christian cultures were primative. Not to the extent of slicing through a woman`s throat or cutting her eyes out though, so not really the same thing as spanking your spouse.

Those backward cultures need time to catch up with the civilized world. I say "backward" because my neighbor {Iraqi born & raised} calls his own culture "backward". He`s lived in it so I`ll default to his description that they are "still in the dark ages socially".
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Male 5,811
@Wendypants

You have the origin of "rule of thumb" wrong. "Rule of thumb" as a phrase predates all such known references to wife beating, in any case. The "rule of thumb" was used for measurements in many different fields, from brewing to money-changing to art. There is and was no such "rule" in English common law. Not everything you see on TV is true.
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Female 1,743
Utterly depressing to watch first thing in the morning.
Thanks for making my day, IAB. -_-
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Male 25
@egaIM,
I can`t say i`m sure to what extend christianity is comparable to islam in regards to how the (used to) treat their women. My point was that both the bible and the quran have passages that are really demeaning towards women, gays, followers of a different (and therefor wrong) religion, etc. What i was getting at was that yes, these things are horrible. But you can`t state that it is all the fault of the quran. Yes in that book it is written that they should stone their women to death when they are raped. But there are passages in the bible of similar in content.
It is the follower that does the wrongs. For one he shouldn`t let his happiness and meaningfulness depend on a book (but thats another story).
People often say "it`s not the gun that kills, it`s the person behind the gun", well, "it`s not the (holy)book that kills, it`s the person reading it". The problem with guidelines on how to live is that they are used as one interprets it.
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Female 2,415
OOps, I meant to type "a man was able to beat and murder his wife (wives) ..."
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Female 2,415
EgalM, sorry, but Christian women WERE treated almost that badly for quite a long time... "rule of thumb" sound familiar? (A man was allowed to beat his wife as he wanted as long as the stick was no wider than the thickness of his thumb.) For centuries a man was able to beat and murder their wives with barely any consequences... it happened, but I will agree with you that it was not on the scale that we see in, say, Iran at the moment.
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Male 10,855
@Sachi

You didn`t read this tidbit:
[quote]While only two states, California and Kentucky, have no statutory minimum age
under which marriage licenses will not be issued, many states with a minimum age
requirement do permit marriages between minors under that age[/quote]

That`s from your source
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Male 1,735
This isn`t a biased report, well in some sense it is, but overall it`s utterly true. I`m sure there are a few things that would make them seem like better people, but not much, if anything.

@Halfacookie

Are you F`ing kidding? Christian women have never been oppressed like this. Not even remotely close. Worse we have ever done was a swift backhand followed by get back in the kitchen. We were never in the habit of mutilating and murdering our spouses.
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Male 886
Allah is a douchebag.
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Male 625
I agree, Halfacookie.

As a soon as I read: "Produced by the David Horowitz Freedom Center" (a right-wing think tank) I knew it would be biased and anti-islamic.
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Male 25
It is sad and very very unsettling to see this. But i will not hate Islam for it. Islam, just like christianity, is a believe based on ancient times.
Where christian women freed themselves Islamic women have not (yet). I still hate the extremists who follow their holy book to the letter (christian or Islamic). They read their book without rationality, and disregard for modern times. It is the people who go without basic human sense are the ones that oppress others (be it gay, people of other religions or women) that ruin a religion our civilization. As i stated before, it is not the religion that kills or maim people. It is the mindless follower.

/2ct
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Male 440
Watching this harrowing video made me uncomfortable and upset. I now have a tiny insight into the suffering of the women trapped in this situation. It is all too easy to "get on with your life" and forget or dismiss the problems of others as not directly realated to yourself.

I am ashamed of my previous lack of empathy. I will try to make amends somehow.
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Male 50
fundamentalism of any kind will ultimately lead to this type of non sensical behaviour. Not just in religion but in everyday life.
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Male 6,227
@Ballthazaq: Juliet is 13, not 12 as you state. In fact, she is just two weeks shy of her 14th birthday. Granted, that`s still very young and a lot younger than Juliet appears in the sources for the play that Shakespeare used. Some speculate the Bard made her not quite 14 as an allusion to the number of lines in a sonnet and to convey the idea that Juliet was a barely-formed expression of young love.
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Female 2,026
muslim is such a backward [email protected]&ing religion...girls go to prison for being raped and therefore unfaitful?!
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Female 78
@xCYBERDYNEx, i cannot accurately respond to your post using only appropriate language, so let`s use sarcasm

riiiiiigghhht, these women CHOSE where to be born, WROTE the koran & islamic policy, and intentionally chose to be without the right or means to value for them for what they are, HUMAN BEINGS.
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Male 4,902
I don`t understand how these women still consider themselves Muslim when it`s their flawed religion that is doing this to them.
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Male 2,004
way to make a minority a majority
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Male 400
Why do these live leak videos never work for me?
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Male 599
@Ballthazaq
"In America, a nation ruled by American law, the legal age for marriage is 12, which is the age of Juliet. "

"Q 1: Is this true?
Yes, at least, as true as the parallel line in the video. Abuse is as common as Female circumcision for example, 20%. Ergo, both equally a "general practice". The 12 year old legal age is with parental + court consent in 5 states (Miss,Mass,NC,WV,DC). "

Sachi states
Where in the freak do you get your stats? age of consent Federal is 16 years old. CFR your BS in another post last week and I called you out on CFR. You never replied. The link below says your wrong on consent. Link id Reference from Interpol.



http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/csaUSA.pdf
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Male 599
Somebody take that American Girl c*nt b*tch and stick face in this video. Then see if the troops are evil. Better yet stick her ass over in Iran and take her citizenship and say see ya!

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=61530
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Male 2,700
This actually reminds me of inner city children and adults. It is a common thought to "drat the police, dont snitch, beat any snitching, we will pronounce words our wway, not the way they are spelled (Ask = axe?),no (insert color) in our neighborhood blah blah drating blah"

After a while America decides to leave these people to their decisions which has led to poverty, racial desegregation and whatnot.

Oh but to top it off, once everyone gives up on them, THEN they bitch, whine and complain, as is the case with the people trying to draw awareness to this fact. Problem is, nothing will change because their culture is so deeply embedded. Like our inner city people whos culture demands that they speak like retards and dress like they are from a country that they have NO dratING CLUE what its about.
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Male 2,700
"So why is all the discussion about the nature of Islam vs. the west or the proper interpretation of the Quran? I want to know why so few western "rights" organizations seem to be ignoring this. Why aren`t the feminists hopping up and down, bat poo insane over this? I truly do not understand. Is the west intentionally trying to `tsk tsk` this away? "

No its because their culture find this acceptable and to try to change anything is deemed western because these stupid drats will find any excuse to make sure women know they are inferior.

In psychological terms, each and every woman that allows herself to be treated this way is suffering from learned helplessness. But when this mental condition covers an entire society, and the men FEED off of it, then this is the result. When people REFUSE to help themselves, then yeah, people are going to "Tsk tsk" it away.
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Female 491
@djlaser if you really feel that way then maybe you should get a sex change and convert to Islam then fly over to Saudi for a bit.
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Male 749
So why is all the discussion about the nature of Islam vs. the west or the proper interpretation of the Quran? I want to know why so few western "rights" organizations seem to be ignoring this. Why aren`t the feminists hopping up and down, bat poo insane over this? I truly do not understand. Is the west intentionally trying to `tsk tsk` this away?
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Male 2,199
i rarely ever vote on a video, but i gave this a 4 so maybe more people would end up watching it, because its worth their time...
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Female 533
I do not post very often as I very rarely find anything worthy of my time.
That being said, this was very interesting. I only wish it had gone into more detail and not been quite so poorly filmed and documented.

I would like to know if anyone can recommend a better documentary on the subject?
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Male 10,338
Crap. I was gonna say "in before baalrage" but I failed.
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Male 7,839
baal, I guess what I was trying to say is that the video seemed to be more against the culture of some of the middle eastern countries (iran and saudi as you mentioned). if that was what the video had said over the blame being on islam, than it really would have been a terrific video for that purpose.

also, "You really don`t know how suicide bombers work do you..." was hilarious.
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Male 3,631
Thank you for sacrificing your refreshment cycle for the sake of Koran translation clarification. I`ll try to make this the last one.

Would this "din" conundrum have anything to do with the following? I just came upon this while reading further:

"9:4 Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him).
9:5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful."

This would seem to substantiate my `minority` opinion.
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Male 4,546
Lazy:
"Tell that to the suicide bombers... and they`d cut off your head."

You really don`t know how suicide bombers work do you...

Jondegi:
Thanks. I`m happy to find out that the sanity I lose going through these debates pops up somewhere around the world. :P

Suicism:
Incidentally "Din" is the most horrendous word to translate ever. "The Arabic word is Din, which is comprehensive. It implies the ideas of indebtedness, duty, obedience, judgment, justice, faith, religion, customary rites, etc. The clause means: "until there is Din for Allah.""

The "and/or" comes in there.
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Male 4,546
Ugh, I`m never gonna get to bed.

Suicism: I tend to use the SAQ as well btw, I figure as long as nothing is specifically mistranslated (not the SAQs fault, different versions translate differently), it`s good enough.

"Is this to say that hostilities cannot fundamentally cease until their adversaries have converted to `religion for Allah?"

Sorry for the slow reply, just double checked all my translations. You could argue 193 states as you say, though the majority opinion seem to state otherwise. It`s a question of "and/or" (see below).

Having said that, 2: 190->193 only make logical sense if the majority translation is used.
190: Fight until no fighting.
191: Fight until no fighting.
192: Same.
193: Fight until no fighting and/or "Din" established.

"And" contradicts previous 3. "Or" does not.
Or wins.
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Female 188
@Baalthazaq

I just wanted to say thank you. When i-am-bored starts discussing Islam, I always look to your posts to keep me from going crazy.
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Male 40,242

I may be the biggest racist here, but I`m not stupid enought to jump into this flame war.

again
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Male 10,440
[quote] but these Islamic theocracies need to be dissolved and a non-religious government needs to be obtained. [/quote]
I agree with that. It would be some sort of step forward.
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Male 10,440
[quote] No. They don`t view the western world, inherently, as sinful. And all Jihad means is struggling to be like the divine, and DEFENDING the religion. Heck, the Quran is very concrete about offensive warfare. Jihad has very very very little to do with any sort of holy war or "holy violence." The Quran is very against it. [/quote]
Tell that to the suicide bombers... and they`d cut off your head.
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Male 4,546
Cobra:
I completely agree. I`m not sure what you think I`m defending here? Iran and Saudi? Hell no. I argue adamantly and constantly against them. Saudi specifically. More specifically I`m fairly sure you`ll find me on this site basically saying the US should cease all support and ties to them.

Keep in mind however, no matter how many people claim they are Islamic theocracies, few have established an actual Islamic system of government.

Traditional Islamic governmental structure includes a proper Majlis-As-Shura, or representative branch. Saudi and Iran do not have that structure.

Qatar does, but the representative branch has none of the authority afforded it in the traditional system. Etc.
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Male 4,546
Jamie76:

Yay! The experience game! I have now been to every GCC country and most of the Middle East. I`ve been doing it a good 15 years. I disagree with you.

Care to tell me why you don`t want to mention which country it is? I have yet to hear anyone say "I visited a Christian country, and ergo X is true".

Because it is instantly identifiable as being a horrendously weak argument.
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Male 3,631
Is this to say that hostilities cannot fundamentally cease until their adversaries have converted to `religion for Allah?`
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Male 3,631
I`m sorry Baalthazaq, I did not read outside those verses provided by SkepticsAnnotatedQuran. I`ve come to trust the Skeptics Annotated series after all my research into the darker corners of Christianity and felt they could provide a more balanced view of the violent verses of the Quran. Guess the skeptics needed their own skepticism for this one.

Anyway, I continued reading and came upon this:

"Fight them until there is no [more] fitnah and [until] worship is [acknowledged to be] for Allah . But if they cease, then there is to be no aggression except against the oppressors." - 2:193

That is from your own website reference. I questioned the translation so compared it to my own SAQ, where it reads "2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers."
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Male 7,839
baalthazaq, im not against Islam, at least no more than the religions i grew up in (Judaism, Christianity, and Wicca). However, in todays world can you name any other religion that holds theocracy where things like this occur on a semi-regular basis (at least a lot more than in countries of the western and far eastern worlds).

i am not against Islam, but I am against the theocracies that allow this under the name of Islam. we all know that the religion cannot be blamed for the people who hold its symbols, but these Islamic theocracies need to be dissolved and a non-religious government needs to be obtained. This may not rid them of their problems, but at least its leaders cannot hide behind its religion.
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Male 4,546
You are actually incorrect, but nice dodge.
Suicism asked for verses for peaceful reconciliation. I provided those verses. There was no argument.

I also provided context to the verses he claimed advocated attacking people in the stereotypical holy war sense.

The verses provided logically cannot apply outside of self defense. "unless they don`t wish to fight you". Ergo, at least one, and I`m guessing we`re gonna end up at at least 100 of those "109 verses" being similar.

That has absolutely nothing to do with "contradicting verses". So if you`re bringing up "contradictory verses" as any part of your argument, you`ve misunderstood the argument we`re having.
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Male 2,344
I lived in Islamic countries and believe me, women are treated horribly and beating them is not only allowed but occurs often.

I have seen it, talked to those that had ti happened to them and questions the men that do it. The answer from the men makes it clear that women are seen as inferior in all ways and have to be "held in line".

call it Islam or part of the culture, whatever you like, but the bottom line is it is violent and women suffer because of it.
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Male 385
evil.
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Female 413
Dont U know Islam is the religion of peace & they`ll kill you to prove it.
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Male 4,546
Incidentally Cajun:

The Age of Aisha thing, I actually spent a while looking into it again and I found one quote from Urwa`s brother Ursa which technically counts as a second source if you go by the golden chain.

Though most scholars say he probably got it from Urwa, that`s unconfirmed, so it`s possible to claim 2 sources.

In the interest of full disclosure. :) I replied to that old thread, but it had been dead for weeks.
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Male 105
Baalthazaq: you argument is that Islam DOES have verses that advocate peace. am i correct?

my argument is that while it may, there are verses that contradict those verses with violence (considerably more as well)

i`m rebutting your argument. not your statement.
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Male 4,546
Ok, sources up, context up, questions answered, bedtime.
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Male 4,546
"what if i said 109 things, and then said one other thing that contradicted those other 109 things? "

False analogy. I`m not picking out a verse at random. I`m finishing a sentence.

If you say "The Bible says kill in the commandments", and I point out it says "Thou shall not" before it, I am not pointing out a contradicting term. I am pointing out that you`ve cherry picked.

When Suicism puts up 4:89, and I say keep reading. That`s called context. 4:90 is the next line. That begins with the word "except". Relating to the previous line. The one we`re discussing.

I specifically do not go out there and try to just quote mine. I give context to the lines. I point out things being ignored from the *section he`s reading*.

I try not to use the same arguments I complain about outside of parody.
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Male 105
Baalthazaq: "You know, the one which forbids fighting people who don`t want to fight you"

what if i said 109 things, and then said one other thing that contradicted those other 109 things?

which would you believe?
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Male 105
@LtFurpie

HELL YEAH!

ATHEIST RIGHTS!
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Male 4,546
Suicism:

If you`d bother to read entire verses rather than half, you`d notice you already have them up.

You could also try the chapter called "The Disbelievers" which deals with the subject matter.

You used a verse from chapter 9 correct?
The one that says, amongst other things:

"9:13 Will ye not fight a folk who broke their solemn pledges, and purposed to drive out the messenger and did attack you first?"

The entire context of the entire chapter is a battle in which peace treaties were ignored and they were attacked.

You posted 4:89, but not the next line 4:90. You know, the one which forbids fighting people who don`t want to fight you. That seemed important to me.
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Male 1,013
Just how many times to we have to repeat: "Religion fail". Forget the violence against women, how about a september day in NY. (no offence women, you `aint the only ones being bashed by religion)
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Male 4,546
Patriot, FGM, Abuse, Marriage.

Sources btw.
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Male 3,631
Baalthazaq, maybe you can help me - what verses are hwkiller talking about in his last sentence?
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Male 4,546

Ok, there`s so much bullpoo in the first 3 sentences that I`m not going to bother going through the rest of it.

Lets draw a parallel shall we?

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In America, a nation ruled by American law, the legal age for marriage is 12, which is the age of Juliet.

In America, a patriotic American slit the throat of a taxi driver because he was funny looking.

A general practice of Americans is to abuse their women.
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Q 1: Is this true?
Yes, at least, as true as the parallel line in the video. Abuse is as common as Female circumcision for example, 20%. Ergo, both equally a "general practice". The 12 year old legal age is with parental + court consent in 5 states (Miss,Mass,NC,WV,DC).

Q 2: Am I painting an accurate picture of America?
No.

Q 3: What does this tell you?
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Male 3,631
@hwkiller

"Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. 2:191

Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them. 4:89

Fight disbelievers who are near you, and let them see the harshness in you. 9:123

Believers must fight for Allah. They must kill and be killed , and are bound to do so by the Torah, Gospel, and Quran. But Allah will reward them for it. 9:111" (Spooky)


I`m pretty sure this last verse gives believers pretty clear instructions on how to wage "holy war" against their adversaries. But Islam is a religion of peace you say? There is some scriptural incentive for non-violent reconciliation between the faiths?


"Muslims that make friends with disbelievers will face a doom prepared for them by Allah. 5:80

Unbelievers will be tormented forever with fire. When their skin is burned off, a fresh skin will be provided. 4:56"


Let`s see it.
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Male 105
"Saying that an entire general population and their beliefs "deserve to be bashed" sounds strangly... well... like what you`re against. "

Exactly what i am saying. religion is INSANITY. and i AM bashing an entire general population and experience zero remorse for that fact

deal. bro.

and a quote

"The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called `hypocrites` and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter."
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Male 3,631
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Male 490
Supersai:
1) Saying that an entire general population and their beliefs "deserve to be bashed" sounds strangly... well... like what you`re against.

2) No. They don`t view the western world, inherently, as sinful. And all Jihad means is struggling to be like the divine, and DEFENDING the religion. Heck, the Quran is very concrete about offensive warfare. Jihad has very very very little to do with any sort of holy war or "holy violence." The Quran is very against it.
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Male 105
hwkiller: "Really, it can simply mean enduring in the face of a sinful world."

e.g the western world
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Male 105
elkingo: It is just as lame as bashing Christianity

Christianity deserves to be bashed
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Male 130
wow
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Male 7,839
its actions like this around the world that prove we are still little more than apes.
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Female 302
God, I wish I could just protect them all...
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Male 5,620
I`m sorry.. I thought I would find it amusing to see Islam on this site, but you know what?

It is just as lame as bashing Christianity.

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Male 109
I am unaware of the reason this video exist. I had a slight sensation of being hatred induced while watching it. So I guess it was done to manipulate people into blind rage against islam. Yes a lot of bad things happen in the world although this doesn`t mean we must join to strike down ANY muslim religion believer. Because then we are the real terrorists. We can not judge people by appearence or faith. Because you can never know where the real innocent people hide.

Anyway I just want to say: "Watch this with caution."
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Male 1,216
Yup...
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Male 10,855
@NNoamfer

Careful when you press F5.
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Male 10,855
There also islamic countries which do have versions of shariah law which outlaw such mistreatment.
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Male 29
Man that was hard to watch,and to think our president is Muslim.Just think about all the women who voted for him.Not knowing what his religion is about.It should be a wake up call to all.
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Male 10,855
[quote]age of one of Muhammed`s wives[/quote]
unverified

[quote]...general practice...[/quote]
True only for the most EXTREME.

[quote]...women in Islamic societies suffer...[die][/quote]
Hasty generalization

Don`t get me wrong this 5h17 clearly IS happening, but please please PLEASE for the love of god be specific. Albania, Kosovo, Turkey, and Indonesia this activity IS illegal and IS punished. Being raped is also NOT considered a crime in any of these countries.

[quote]sha`riah would creat...gender apartheid[/quote]
Wahhabayist interpretation ONLY.

[quote]...basic Muslim behaviors[/quotes]
basic to Saudi men.
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Male 186
Ha ha bitches getting pwned.
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Male 1,216
Who is the famous woman with dreadlocks? Is she an Arabic feminist?
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Male 684
@gasmaskkid..you are a douche, if you don`t take the time to watch, keep it to yourself, no one cares.
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Male 353
Wow, this is such and f`ed up video. I can only stand watching 6 minutes of it. It`s never right to keep sex slaves, or stone people to death, or deliberately keep people inside a burning building. It`s even sadder that these are all women. In the western (in my opinion, more civilized) part of the world, if there is any danger it would be the women and children whom are to escape first. And being a man, i have absolutely no problem with that. This is probably why i could only stand 6 minutes of this video.
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Male 9
Wouldn`t the world just be better if we all converted to Jainism?
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Male 1,073
OMG it was so difficult to watch this with the fake crowd noise in the background...
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Male 2,436
Nine year olds dude, nine year olds...
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Male 490
supersai20, "Jihad" is an unofficial 6th pillar in Islam. It simply means "struggle," if I recall correctly.

The term "Jihad" has been misconstrued to mean absolute evil in Western society. Really, it can simply mean enduring in the face of a sinful world.
It doesn`t allude to violence.
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Male 320
I have heard of some of this before. It is really messed up that such things happen. Sure glad I aint a woman and even gladder that I aint muslim. JMIO
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Male 105
@hwkiller jihad is the cause

jihad is a basic TENMENT of islam
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Male 694
tl;dw
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Male 490
And I`m sure that all Muslims do this, as though "Islam" is the cause for the violence.

Right?

Right?
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Male 3,343
Not all of the human rights violations in this video are "endorsed" by Islam. I`m not saying that women in the Middle East aren`t treated exceedingly poorly, or trying to make excuses for any behavior. I just am pointing out that they threw in some things that are part of "the culture created by Islam," and not part of Islam itself.
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Male 40,242

I hate you can`t pause these life leak videos.

damn pop ups!



oh, yeah, sad about the muslim chicks.
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Male 25,416
NOthing we didnt already know
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Female 937
Link: The Violent Oppression of Women in Islam [Rate Link] - The title speaks for itself. [Some pretty brutal images, but very enlightening.]
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