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48 Responses to The Future Of NASA With Neil deGrasse Tyson

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    July 18, 2011 at 2:47 pm
    Link: The Future Of NASA With Neil deGrasse Tyson - How much would you pay for the universe? What do we stand to lose by not making this investment?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    America is agaist getting high :P
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    NASA : Waste of Money.

    Exploring Space is a VERY good idea and is absolutely necessary to enhance our understanding of this world. But the amount of money NASA was spending and the results it was yielding were not what the public expect.

    Doing extremely obscure science experiments in space, sending rovers to Mars spending millions if not billions on scrapped projects, supporting life for a small crew to live in space on board a station is no way for a Country who`s national debt is at a threateningly high level to be spending money.

    The idea was for NASA to find a cheap way to get to space. Sure there were side-projects, but in the end, they still launched multi-billion shuttles, with plans to make new ones at an even higher cost.
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    as long as america thinks that the only worthwhile federal expenditure is the military, we will lose many important tings.
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    dang007 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    Prioritize. Prioritize. Prioritize.

    We do not have the funds to do it all. Prioritize.
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    metalhannes Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    /(;_;) salute the flag!
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    The space shuttle needed to go, guys. It wasn`t cost-effective, it wasn`t safer, and it could only reach low Earth orbit. We need to be planning for a manned mission to Mars, not just hovering over the Earth. And yes, I too would rather see all that money going to the military instead going towards space exploration and other scientific research.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:31 pm
    The astronaut speaking for NASA will miss the pay. I grew up thinking NASA was the absolute everything in cool. Once I realized all NASA did from my birth until 2000ish was go to space, do boring stuff, come back; my vision of them was a little shattered.

    And if you consider that they did this with a thought of "money is no issue", it`s unreasonable. Yes, they send probes/rovers to Mars, other than that, they have not evolved enough to sustain and justify their spending.

    Not all hope is lost however. This will send eager young rocket scientists (and all other types of people required for a space program lol) into what I expect to be, the next lunar landing, at an justifiable cost. Once this is achieved, NASA will return (maybe under a different name), with fresh minds and bodies.
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    we could cut the military budget almost in half, and still be the most powerful nation on earth. lets cut it by even more, and let someone else be the world police for a little while.
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    Batmanners Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:34 pm
    "as long as america thinks that the only worthwhile federal expenditure is the military, we will lose many important tings."

    Tings?

    Maybe spend some of the military funding into the education system?
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    @Batmanners

    yep. my keyboard sux on this pooty old laptop...but lets blame teachers for my typos and failure to re-read before i post.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 4:02 pm
    It doesn`t matter how awesome NASA is... if you can`t afford it, then you can`t afford it.

    But maybe you can afford it, maybe the only problem is that your priorities are screwed up.

    How much do you spend on your military again?
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    July 18, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    @LazyMe484

    the US spends only slightly less than the rest of the world combined on its military.
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    Groogle Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    "How much would you pay for the universe?"

    Not a single penny. I want to live under a resource based economy when i`m invited to go visit the universe.

    I`d rather we stay home if we don`t.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    July 18, 2011 at 4:46 pm
    O.K. Tyson here is your answer.
    Q: What is NASA
    A: A black hole that we have thrown trillions.
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    LuckyDave Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    I really do think that we as human beings are looking too closely at ourselves. When you look at Earth, the sun, the solar system, our galaxy, in comparison to the whole of the known universe; you realize that you are very small. Why concentrate solely on what directly benefits you? No one beyond this rock we call a home will ever remember your name, and many people on it will never even know you ever existed. Space is so vast, so full of unknowns that are just waiting to be explored. Cell phones, almost a necessity in first world countries came from CERN and black hole research, that originated from research into the chasms of space. We as a species know nothing, because we are so focused on what happens with our microscopic lives that we don`t even realize that we are capable of so much more. Space holds the answers to some of man`s greatest questions, and it all stops because we as a race are too selfish to look elsewhere.
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    elkingo Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    "But maybe you can afford it, maybe the only problem is that your priorities are screwed up.

    How much do you spend on your military again?"

    How much does Canada spend on a space program again?
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    Revolutioniz Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    60% of US budget goes to military, only 19 million a year goes to NASA. despite what you may think, or even want to think. there are over 400 million americans, if each american donated (4 Cents) 4 dratING pennies. our nasa would be in full operations.. and people whine and moan about problems here like faminie and poorer countries, while they sit behind their 1000$ computers inside their house/apartment doing nothing but talking. And that sums up most Americans. ignorant lazy no goods. There are far more inventions that you can count that came from research developing things just to enter space. and from space we will advance.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    Cut 1/100th of the worthless Education budget, and send the Shuttle back to space.
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    andfrank03 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    C`mon `merica!
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    NotTHATbored Female 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 6:38 pm
    @Revolutioniz You should start an organization, I`ll send in my 4 cents. poo I`ll send in a dollar.
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    @Revolutioniz
    "60% of US budget goes to military, only 19 million a year goes to NASA."

    You do mean 19 billion correct?

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    crudson Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 8:07 pm
    virgingalactic = free market space travel. besides, Vulcans won`t visit Earth until 2063.
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 8:14 pm
    Heck we spend way more on trying to explore on outer space then we do on inner space. Such as the inner earth or ocean depths. Try learning more about earthquakes, volcanoes, geology, marine life and ocean currents as a more priority here first. Rather than trying to spend exuberant money on how to mine planets first. Then after we obtain ample supply in our own backyard then maybe reaching other planets would be more feasible.
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    xtkm1x Male 13-17
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    July 18, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    how can you sit there and call the exploration of the universe a waste of time and money? Have you looked at the amazing pictures that the space telescopes have brought to the world via the interlolz? I would pay half a penny at every check for that alone.
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    Well I`ll tell you what. You get big and filthy rich soon. Give about 2 Billion of your hard earned money. Well probably much more after a few years of inflation. Build a gigantic bad ass Hubble like telescope and send it up for a few looks into the distance for a few minutes of enjoyment. Then back to the life grinder.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    "You do mean 19 billion correct?"

    Yes. 19 billion, of 4 trillion. That was before they cancelled the shuttle too.
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    walkrunfly Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    I`m all about science, but sometimes money can be better spent elsewhere. NASA started off not about science, but about beating the russians in the space race, now it`s over-developed compared to other areas of science. People don`t identify with NASA like they did back then, so it can`t justify the money spending, simple as that. Yes, it is important to further science (even when it`s just for science sake, as the saying goes) but it`s not always worth the cost.

    it`s always sad to a science program die, but when that money can be used to go to a more productive area of science(eg cancer research), it has to happen.

    Anyways i thought the guy talking seemed like a douche
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    the US spends only slightly less than the rest of the world combined on its military.
    That`s exactly my point. The question was rhetorical.

    NASA may be out, or slowed, or whatever... but that doesn`t mean space exploration is at a standstill. There`s still the private companies, the Europeans and the japs.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    The Future of the Human Race is among the stars.

    There is no doubt in my mind about that, if we are to continue to survive, much less evolve, as a species it will not be on Earth. It`s simply untenable.

    Don`t get me wrong, I believe Earth will always remain a part of our makeup, but we`re at the point in our evolution where, like an adolescent standing on the porch of their parents house, we must decide, do we go out into the wide universe or do we hide in the basement and never strive to know our potential.
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    ComradJurgis Male 13-17
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    July 18, 2011 at 9:50 pm
    "it`s always sad to a science program die, but when that money can be used to go to a more productive area of science(eg cancer research), it has to happen."

    I highly doubt that the money will be used to fund a "more productive area of science". In fact I am almost positive we will find some way to relocate the money into our ridiculously high defense budget. Hooray war!
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    intrigid Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 10:02 pm
    "how can you sit there and call the exploration of the universe a waste of time and money? Have you looked at the amazing pictures that the space telescopes have brought to the world via the interlolz? I would pay half a penny at every check for that alone."

    I see no reason why the government needs to be involved. Let private corporations pursue space travel.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    Haven`t watched the link yet, but I just wanted to say that I`m delighted that the correct use of the term "lose" was used in the description, rather than "loose". Yeah, I know, I need to get out more.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 18, 2011 at 11:25 pm
    Yeah, watched the vid now. Pretty awesome. Pretty goddam awesome.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    July 18, 2011 at 11:30 pm
    Interesting point of view
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    ak47reaper Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 1:30 am
    thank you.
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    abrxax Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 1:49 am
    Its funny. NASA ditches the shuttle and hopes that private companies fill the void. Well in steps I.T.A.R. and screws it all up. The components to make a space craft and all restricted. Most are made by one manufacturer. Can`t go outside the country to Europe to get parts. Some components are just not made in the USA anymore. With the shuttle program gone American lead in science and tech is over. Europe has the LHC. Russia and china are the only countries to have maned space flight now. My fellow Americans we are watching the end of the great dream.
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    Subushie Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 2:11 am
    Amen Neil, I<3U.
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    MattyP Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 4:54 am
    I`m sad now and I`m not even at work yet. This was a terrible way to start my day. Thanks America.
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    barrooo Male 30-39
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    July 19, 2011 at 4:57 am
    When people talk about the cost of the space programme they should also realise that for every dollar spent on the apollo missions $14 dollars was generated for the U.S economy.
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
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    July 19, 2011 at 6:22 am
    sucks watching a nation hang itself. and i get to live in it.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 6:47 am
    Whilst I agree wholheartedly with your sentiment Dr. Tyson but don`t put all your eggs in one basket. NASA has had successes but not without horrific failures. There`s good news though, private companies are now taking up the slack and making it cheaper for John Q. Public to go into LEO.
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    uhmerikin Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 8:22 am
    I love seeing this guy on The History Channel or some science show. Somehow he can take some super complicated subject like thermo-nuclear fusion of dark matter within a vacuum (yes, I just made that up so slow your roll) and explain it so simply, clearly and concisely that you almost feel like you understand it.
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    Pechorin Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 8:32 am
    Frankly anyone who makes the old "why spend money up there when we have problems down here" argument is just ignorant. Anyone know the first part of NASA`s mission statement?

    "To improve life here, to extend life to there, to find life beyond."

    Despite their efforts in space, NASA`s greatest contributions have always been to society here on Earth.

    Some things we owe to NASA:
    -Cell phones
    -MRI technology
    -DVDs
    -Cordless tools
    -Household smoke detectors
    -Velcro
    -Shoe insoles
    -Bar code scanners
    -Breathing system for firefighters
    -Artificial heart pumps
    -Robotic-assisted surgery
    -Digital mammography

    And more. Yeah, clearly a terrible waste of money.
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    GRadde Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 9:03 am
    He has several good points, as do Pechorin. Live, NASA, live!
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    July 19, 2011 at 9:53 am
    Don`t forget about the temperpedic beds, those are just lovely.

    And NASA didn`t create Velcro it was sold to them by the Vulcans, I saw it in enterprise.
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    Beardofzeus Male 30-39
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    July 19, 2011 at 10:17 am
    Yay NASA! More space exploration please, less benefits for long-term unemployed.

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