The Argument For Legalizing Marijuana [Pic]

Submitted by: SaintPatty 6 years ago in Science

You tell "em, Marcy Dolin.
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Male 684
@FAKEBACON...THC damages the immune system. Alcohol does not."
Physicians have long observed that excessive
alcohol consumption can lead not only to liver
damage but also to increased illness and death
from infectious diseases such as pneumonia.
(See, for example, the writings of Philadelphia
physician Benjamin Rush [1745–1813] [Rush
1943]). We now regard this increase in disease as
the result of immunodeficiency caused by alcohol
abuse. Further, there is reason to suspect that the
organ damage, such as alcoholic liver disease,
observed in people who drink alcohol heavily
is at least partially caused by alcohol-triggered
autoimmunity in which the immune system
attacks the body’s own tissues.
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Male 586
Because you think any material published before 1977 is erroneous, this was published just last year: "Alcohol consists of one substance only: ethanol. Marijuana contains more than 400 known chemicals, including the same cancer-causing substances found in tobacco smoke. Unlike cigarette smokers, pot smokers tend to inhale deeply and hold the smoke as long as possible to increase the effect of the drug, worsening the damage to the lungs.

Alcohol is eliminated from the body in a few hours, but THC stays in the body for weeks, possibly months, depending on the length and intensity of usage.

THC damages the immune system. Alcohol does not."
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Male 106
Lmao... someone actually quoted something from 1977 as if it were scientifically relevant in 2011. That`s about half a step up from quoting Reefer Madness and expecting it to carry weight instead of just make people laugh at your for being a dumbass.
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Male 2,513
Haha @ Fakebacon "...many months are required to recover from its effects(marijuana)"

Q:What kind of crack and pcp laced weed are you smoking on that it`s lasts for a month?

A:False information
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Male 7
"I think they should be eating the marijuana or just taking THC tablets/pills/injections. Smoking anything isn`t good for you."

So, you`ll say that smoking is harmful, and yet go on to say, "hey, go inject it!"
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Male 586
To quote: "*** rs p. 109 par. 2 Drugs ***
Alcohol is a food and is metabolized by the body to provide energy; the end products are disposed of by the body. However, a psychopharmacologist said: “Marijuana is a very potent drug, and the biggest mistake we make is comparing it to alcohol.” “Molecule for molecule, THC [in marijuana] is 10,000 times stronger than alcohol in its ability to produce mild intoxication . . . THC is removed slowly from the body, and many months are required to recover from its effects.” (Executive Health Report, October 1977, p. 3)
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Male 533
"How much cartel and gang money do you think is wrapped up in your harmless little toke? Imbeciles."

Depends on what state you live in. In Oregon, it`s most likely some bed ridden card holder taking advantage of the insane amount they are given, or even better, some stoner college kid in Eugene.
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Male 363
you`d think people would just come out and say that they want it legalized so they can smoke pot instead of riding on the sick like this
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Male 78
Placebo effect.
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Male 1,370
You know... I kind of want multiple sclerosis now.
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Male 645
"How much cartel and gang money do you think is wrapped up in your harmless little toke? Imbeciles."

Who made it illegal and gave them a back door black market? oh yeah this huge crook named Nixon. If its legal in the states there is no reason to import it from those criminals.
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Male 645
"It`s addictive and not good for the health. But then so is alcohol and tobacco. "

I quit marijuana like an old hat. Alcohol keeps pulling me in.
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Male 958
Go granny!
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Male 729
@photomstr: If yer a weak minded loser, Mother Nature gonna weed you out eventually! Rock On! Woo Hoo!

If we lived by that rule... we would rule.
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Male 766
Ya ya, I saw this, a guy did that, ufos exist, I believe in a god, ghosts and mind reading. I asked my Dr. (a cool guy). He said pot is no worse than alcohol . . . but look at how many lives booze has ruined. If yer a weak minded loser, Mother Nature gonna weed you out eventually! Rock On! Woo Hoo!
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Male 415
Marihuana today is nothing like the stuff 20 years ago, it`s been boosted and is more like a real harddrug these days.

It`s addictive and not good for the health. But then so is alcohol and tobacco.
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Male 441
I could convince anyone that legalizing is the way to go. But there is no one who is informed about the topic and yet against it, there are just people who profit from it being illegal.
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Male 2,737
I don`t smoke pot,but it should be legalized.
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Male 505
@securitywyrm
1. Increased risk of psychosis, I shared a house with a guy who ended up in a mental hospital - he smoked too much but it gets some people
2. Yep, it fits.

To be clear, I have no issues with smoking or legalising (I think they should to get better control, visibility, and support). As long as people make sure they have some close friends who don`t smoke, and take one month every year without smoking (all those points apply to any drug). If you can`t manage those two things then I suggest there is a problem. If someone says you smoke to much, think really hard if they are right, being chilled out all the time means you don`t get as much done, and over time the attitude sticks even when you aren`t smoking. Personally I prefer speed or acid but each to their onwn :)
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Male 151
weed frees the mind <3
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Male 2,384
i mean seriously? why is this a drating debate? i remember my dad yelling at me for smoking pot with a cigarette in one hand, its like .... *palmface*
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Female 24
@dremkast - You realize that taxing pot wouldn`t be a drop of water in the ocean for our debt? We are in trillions of dollars deep. Even a 20% tax wouldn`r do poo.
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Male 28
I laugh at this debate. Pot smokers on this forum, why care what these misinformed people think? I know it will get legalized one day and once it does I will probably not smoke any more or less than how much I do right now. (Although I`ll probably start growing to support my own habit instead of having to pay for it.) I smoke a lot of weed. I love it. :) I couldn`t give a damn about what people think of me. I won`t stop in the near future, I feel no need. It isn`t negatively impacting my life negatively in any way other than costing a lot (for me anyway). I love smoking pot. I know the truth. So raise your blunt, joint, pipe, bong or vape or WHATEVER to a toast in the name of the herb: that pot, no matter the legal status, is an amazing plant that should be cultivated and explored thoroughly. :)
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Female 28
DShephard, Christiana had problems with hard drugs in the late 70s. 10 people died. Hardly a large portion of the population. Since then it`s been under control. In fact, most hard drugs found there are brought in by visitors, and any increase in hard drug use there has been seen all over Denmark. The biggest problem they have is because the police are completely disrespectful to them. They come in every evening in riot gear trying to intimidate the locals. They`ve been trying to shut it down for years.

Oh, and I`ve been there. Lovely place with lots of chilled out hippy types. Really a beautiful community that has run successfully for decades. I wonder where you got your info from, as it is quite inaccurate.
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Male 2,513
Wow Klamz, you`re going to pick on the daughter of a cancer patient who is afraid to get real medicine, not to mention illegal in that state.

Bravo good sir, you are high class

If you don`t like drinking or smoking fine but don`t try to impose your idiotic tyranny telling everyone else what not to

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Male 69
Step 1) Legalize it.
Step 2) Make thorough regulations.
Step 3) Tax the dratting SH*T out of it.
Step 4) ??????????????
Step 5) NO MORE US DEBT!
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Male 1,595
ed down) and you know what?

My life is drating dandy.

The only vice I DO have is video games, but I get out of the house every day, and I have some yard work I do, so it`s not hurting me in any way.
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Male 1,595
@spanerbulb

They already tried that in Freetown Christiania.

It didn`t turn out well.

In fact it turned out REALLY REALLY BADLY.

Overdoses took out a large percentage of the populace, it really was like the black plague for them; Not to mention Danish raids that were performed there constantly.

As for the post: Legalize and distribute only if it`s the stuff without the THC, taking away the point of why most people want it to be legalized.


There should be stronger laws against alcohol, too. The .08 limit we have now is too high to be on the road, and if tobacco didn`t bring us so much money and keeping our country afloat I say that should just outright be gone from here.

I don`t drink (of course I wouldn`t, I`m only 20) or smoke or do any drugs whatsoever; whenever I get put on painkillers I take less than the recommended dosage, I practice perfect abstinence (it IS possible, you can`t believe the amount of p***y I turn
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Male 3,482
And don`t try to make any "well, just get rid of the cartels" speech either. Between the DEA and the many, many other organizations working under government order, we`ve been trying.

But you know what? There are only two ways to "get rid of them:"

1) Take away virtually all American freedoms and rights, putting police on every street corner patrolling 24 hours a day and checking everyone`s pockets to make sure no one`s carrying ANYTHING, and closing off all our borders to any transport that hasn`t had every inch of it`s construction thoroughly inspected down to the last item on it`s register

OR

2) violate other countries` sovereignty by invading without warning (because any corrupted politician could warn of an incoming attack) to destroy the cartel headquarters every time one crops up somewhere.

I should hope you can see the problems here. If not, then you`re clearly nothing but a scared, brainwashed little prick.
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Male 3,482
[quote]Congratulations your a drug user. High five? I also like it when people sell meth to kids, this is also your fault by the way.

Lets keep supporting drugs yeah?[/quote]
Let`s also keep supporting the illegal cartels that are selling this stuff and killing people by keeping it illegal.

Let`s face it, moron, people want it. People are going to get it. Whether you agree that it`s good for you or not, where would you rather the money go:

1) Some Mexican drug cartel that`s going to kill or corrupt a few cops or politicians, purchase illegal weaponry, push harder drugs on their consumers, and other worse sh*t

OR

2) Some farmers and pharmacists who just want to put food on the table and their kids through college, and are willing to jump through every legal hoop to make sure their business survives and they`re getting a paycheck without the risk of jail?
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Male 2,700
"not hurting anyone until she burns the house with their grandsons in it while giggling with her mouth full of pizza"

Wow terrible stereotype. there is absolutely no way a person that smokes weed can have a good job, good pay, a life......Naaaaaaaa

Jackass
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Male 2,700
Look. It is real simple. Legalize and CONTROL!!! The weed that is around now is incredibly stronger than what it should be. You legalize it, you control the chemical, you TAX the stuff, you can save an economy.

Marijuana is so stuck in the stigma of so many people as a bad drug when there are so many other things that affect you much worse, for cheaper a price, AND IS LEGAL!!!

Alcohol is the biggest offender.

If consumed responsibly (much like alcohol is supposed to be), marijuana poses the least threat to the people around the user. This means ages 21 and older, with warning labels, and a THC count or rating. Again much like the % of alcohol that makes up a bottle.

there is really no reason NOT to legalize except for politicians to make sure they grab votes.
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Male 1,243
Legalise all drugs, bang criminals are out of business and lots of money saved, sell drugs through government controlled outlets and bang you are actually making money, reducing crime and have a safer society.
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Male 2,855
not hurting anyone until she burns the house with their grandsons in it while giggling with her mouth full of pizza
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Male 688
"and they know i have smoked" - Jessly

Congratulations your a drug user. High five? I also like it when people sell meth to kids, this is also your fault by the way.

Lets keep supporting drugs yeah?
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Male 128
Tobacco is worse, yet it`s legal. Good job society
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Male 511
I don`t think cancer patients and people with other diseases or disabilities should be smoking marijuana.

I think they should be eating the marijuana or just taking THC tablets/pills/injections. Smoking anything isn`t good for you.
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Male 11
Smoke of any kind is bad for you. Don`t be a dippoo and say that you want to legalize it for medical purposes. You want to legalize it to get high. If it was a medicine they should just give people it in pills. Or refine it and just give pills of THC. I`m sick of all the arguments saying its for health reasons and so on and so forth. If it is legalized, lets be clear; it will be for recreation, not medicine. There are many other drugs which are better for medical pain killers. I`m not saying that it should or shouldn`t be legal, but don`t lie about why you want it.
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Male 505
@securitywyrm
1. Increased risk of psychosis, I shared a house with a guy who ended up in a mental hospital - he smoked too much but it gets some people
2. Yep, it fits.

To be clear, I have no issues with smoking or legalising (I think they should to get better control, visibility, and support). As long as people make sure they have some close friends who don`t smoke, and take one month every year without smoking (all those points apply to any drug). If you can`t manage those two things then I suggest there is a problem. If someone says you smoke to much, think really hard if they are right, being chilled out all the time means you don`t get as much done, and over time the attitude sticks even when you aren`t smoking. Personally I prefer speed or acid but each to their onwn :)
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Female 62
my mom has just started chemo and it has been making her so nauseas to the point where she just vomits uncontrollably. It`s really scary and none of the anti-nausea medication has worked for her. I have brought up the idea of marijuana considering they were supposed to move to holland right before she was diagnosed and they know i have smoked, but she doesn`t want to condone something that is against the law since we live in texas. it makes me so angry that my mom, and other people in similar situations, should be afraid to use something that could actually benefit them and improve their lives just because of its legality
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Male 605
I already got my Medical Card... its pretty much legal here in California!
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Female 178
RON PAUL 2012
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Male 4,793
Legalize it, tax it. More money for the gov`t, less money wasted on arresting/processing harmless pot smokers/smugglers, no reason for big drug people to make money off of a legal substance so they lose that market. One reason it isn`t legal right now is because there is no system to check how high a person is at any given time, so police could do nothing about a person driving while high.
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Male 5,189
My argument: Keep it illegal. Don`t need politics and the Gov messing it up. Even I know we don`t need a world run by pot heads.
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Male 3,482
[quote]And beyond all that *drum roll*... if America wanted it legal, it would be. It`s not like we couldn`t change the law if we wanted to. We just don`t.[/quote]
Guess what? A fair amount of America DOES want it legal, according to most polls and if the number of states slowly legalizing it are anything to go by.

Know who doesn`t?

COMPANIES. Because the plant marijuana comes from is incredibly versatile and could put a fair number of companies out of business.

It`s useful for everything from smoking (against tobacco) to rope to clothing.

But do you know who has lobbyists and money in Washington that made marijuana illegal in the first place and want to keep it illegal?

COMPANIES. Which is why the American people`s opinion doesn`t mean anything anymore. It`s money vs. majority, and the politicians can`t line their pockets with majorities.
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Male 3,482
[quote]"Sitting on my computer, whacking off to child porn."[/quote]
You`re smoking something a LOT stronger than marijuana there, bud (pun not intended).

In order to produce child porn, a child has to be sexually assaulted. Unless it`s drawn porn, in which case... Ew, but no one is getting hurt.

On the other hand, in order to produce marijuana, it`s just like any other farming.

[quote]How much cartel and gang money do you think is wrapped up in your harmless little toke?[/quote]
The only people getting hurt are getting hurt BECAUSE it`s illegal, being attacked by other dealers or thrown in jail to get beaten half to death for taking a toke. If it were legal, guess what happens to the cartels and gangs that are attacking each-other for the money? *POOF* And the world is suddenly a lot safer without the gangs killing each other over a PLANT.
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Male 287
"You`re not addicted to it, yet the people who smoke it do it day after day, and even mug people to get the cash to buy it.

Nice try tho at justifying your addiction."

You don`t know what you`re talking about. Good example of someone who was hit by the fear propaganda. The people who steal to get it, know what? They were stealing before they were using marijuana, learn to analyze.
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Male 287
"The debate is someone not needing it just having a good time. The main debates why are simple, because alcohol and tobacco are legal. Guess what THEY SHOULDN`T BE!"

They shouldn`t be legal because you don`t like either of them? You`re a drating moron. You`re not debating, you`re coming off with your extremely biased pooty religious view.
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Male 1,832
Are we supposed to feel bad for this woman who has a condition and is getting treatment for it? This isn`t interesting, and it really has nothing to do with the legalization of marijuana. I`m sure the pot she uses is legal.
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Male 688
The greatest debates of our time:

Politics. (If we had decent leaders it would be valid... but we don`t so Fkin Ridiculous)
Religion. (Fkin Ridiculous)
Drugs. (Fkin Ridiculous)

Quite the race of people we are, burn us all before it`s too late.

"Apparently Klamz lives in a world where no one he knows needs anti-depressants, has or had cancer, ever gets anxiety attacks or has had severe chronic pain which is all jolly good for him- but these are legitimate needs people have and weed smoked or vaporized (not in pill!) is a safe, relatively instant and easy to adjust dosage legit alternative. "

Then you go to a doctor and if you truly need it to help you he will give it to you. Medicinal use isn`t the debate.

The debate is someone not needing it just having a good time. The main debates why are simple, because alcohol and tobacco are legal. Guess what THEY SHOULDN`T BE!
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Male 43
hey ppl, whats with the tweezers?
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Male 566
@tedgp, show me one person who wasn`t an imbecile or a mugger already who jacked someone for pot money. If you run out there`s always someone who will throw you a bud until you can return the favor.
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Female 93
I use it to help me sleep once in a while but it certainly does not run my life and it`s a whole lot safer then alcohol and prescription drugs.
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Male 5
Consuming it makes me feel better. I understand that I might be forming a habit because it feels so good. There are some undesirable side effects from doing it too often. You can hate me for it, but I just love eating a good ice cream cone.

Wait, did you think I was talking about marijuana? Whoever heard of "medical ice cream?"
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Male 7,378
o/ High five tommy2x4!
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Male 3,477
I`ve smoked it since 1971 and... and... I think I`m gonna go eat a hot dog.
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Male 362
people are afraid of marijuana like little girls
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Male 718
Thats real nice (my doctor said he would have me arrested if he could) WHAT HAPPENED TO DOCTORS HELPING US!? my doctor (my good wonderful helping,caring doctor) put me on 180 10/325mg Vicodin a Month. he kept me on that for 3 years. till finally he just quit. he retired one month. he left me SWINGING after taking 180 Vics a month to (nothing) of course im still in alot of pain (due to the injury i took them for) but can you imagine the pain i went through? the doubt? the horrible feeling of knowing ive been on a (medicine) for 3 years and now im going to be jerked off it suddenly? well i was and it hurt like HELL... thats doctors for you. no other doctor would put me on that INSANE amount of pain killers a month by the way, so i had to fall off them cold turkey... the thought of it STILL makes my blood run cold... That my friends is how much you should trust doctors. if your hurting or you think something is wrong with you NEVER take one doctors advice. NEVER
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Male 3,332
This is an argument for the legalization of MEDICAL marijuana, not marijuana in general.
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Female 1,963
Smoking pot is not completely harmless (inhaling smoke of any kind is bad for your lungs, and it has the potential to act as a trigger for mental illness) but it is often a better treatment for various conditions with fewer side effects than the usual medications, and it is not physically addictive. End of story.
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Male 55
ah, i see DARE really has achieved its goal of poisoning the minds of otherwise intelligent people.

@tedgp you can believe that if it helps you sleep at night, but youre ignoring all the facts and science. CANNABIS IS NOT ADDICTIVE. habit forming sure, like using the internet. lets make that illegal too and demonize people wanting to live the way they want to because some people who use the internet use it "day after day" and im sure someone somewhere has mugged someone for the money to pay their internet bill or get a new computer.

but thank you for showing me that you have a superior moral fiber.
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Female 4,084
oh, and i`m just saying, growing, processing, and making marijuana available on a commercial basis would put a lot of people to work. and the excise taxes collected could help out the government deficit, too.
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Female 4,084
if it helps and your body tolerates it, use it. some people have no idea how devastating an illness can be until it happens to them. if i needed something to accomplish what marijuana does, i would certainly use it. and if you don`t think its effects would beat the hell out of traditional western medicine, listen to a tv commercial for a new prescription or read the WARNINGS the manufacturers have to list in their print ads. happy, hungry, and sleepy beats depressed, angry, and in pain any day.
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Male 3,285
You`re not addicted to it, yet the people who smoke it do it day after day, and even mug people to get the cash to buy it.

Nice try tho at justifying your addiction.
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Male 1,646
lol, paddy you`re a moron. You obviously know nothing, you cannot become "addicted" to bud. Sure it is habit forming, but I know what addiction is like. Being able to be high on something for months; then stop abruptly and not go through any withdrawals of any kind is not an addiction.
The argument is about quality of life, the woman see`s that her life is much better and easier to live with when she smokes verses taking medicines that she would absolutely become addicted to.
And no, Doctors are some of the most common-sense illiterate people in the entire world, they have their eight years of college; But most doctors aren`t the friendly "I truly want to get you better" type of people, most are just in it to pay a mortgage and couldn`t give two poos if you live or die.
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Male 566
I was on Neurontin for awhile, damn near lost my mind, that is the dangerous poo, not the pot. And that whole supporting the cartel thing is BS. All the stuff I`m seeing never crossed a state line. Buy American!
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Female 584
Go on Grandma. Marijuana is sometimes better for the body than these "prescribed" drugs from doctors.
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Male 1,678
@securitywyrm Saying cigarettes and alcohol are bad too is an arguement against those things, not for cannibis.
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Male 1,678
This is an arguement for a law that already exists. The doctor probably didn`t want her smoking more pot than necessary because she has clearly become an addict. Doctors know more than patients.
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Male 934
"1. Increased risk of psychosis, I shared a house with a guy who ended up in a mental hospital - he smoked too much but it gets some people "

Attributing this to marijuana is like attributing it to all the diet cokes he drank. Most likely, there was another cause to his psychosis.
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Male 2,332
The writer sounds like a poof.
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Male 1,153
man i havent had a zoot in months. cravinggg
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Male 505
@securitywyrm
1. Increased risk of psychosis, I shared a house with a guy who ended up in a mental hospital - he smoked too much but it gets some people
2. Yep, it fits.

To be clear, I have no issues with smoking or legalising (I think they should to get better control, visibility, and support). As long as people make sure they have some close friends who don`t smoke, and take one month every year without smoking (all those points apply to any drug). If you can`t manage those two things then I suggest there is a problem. If someone says you smoke to much, think really hard if they are right, being chilled out all the time means you don`t get as much done, and over time the attitude sticks even when you aren`t smoking. Personally I prefer speed or acid but each to their onwn :)
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Male 2,513
P.S. I don`t know what this is an argument about. Medical marijuana IS legal in some states.

Not really an argument.

Recreational use(smoking to get high) isn`t discussed in this caption anyways...

So, what are we talking about here?
I say let`s start a completely new thread on some random and funny topic...
I have no Idea what`s going on right now

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Male 505
@Swaywithme, I don`t know what specific condition he was diagnosed with - his parents weren`t clear, as with many of these things they are never entirely sure but it was attributed to his smoking and an inherrent tendency as you suggest. There seems to be growing evidence that there is a link with smoking presenting a statistically significant trigger (I think a number of other drugs were cited but not alcohol to the same level), but the mechanisms were not entirely understood. Nothing is risk free and it would be a dull world if it were, people just need to take a reasonable level of care and not think any of these things are `safe` whether legal or not.
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Male 2,513
There`s nothing wrong with weed, it helps me with migraines which I am currently having and am treating ;-) . It really does help with reducing the severity and duration of the pain which is greatly appreciated. Even the frequency of them has dropped since i`ve started getting medical marijuana. I don`t see any reason to demonize it for recreational use either... "hey kids, wanna get high". Heheh, I just don`t see the big deal when we sell far worse narcotics to people every day both by prescription and over the counter. If you don`t smoke fine... just don`t be a little bitch and let me get my smoke on.
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Male 514
There are a lot of medicinal uses for marijuana and thats exactly why big brother doesn`t want you to have it.
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Female 3,696
1. Increased risk of psychosis, I shared a house with a guy who ended up in a mental hospital - he smoked too much but it gets some people

Did you ever find out afterwards what he was diagnosed with? Some conditions aren`t present until your young-adult life and could have been triggered by a multitude of drugs- including alcohol.
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Female 379
The question is should we as people be allowed to decide what we want to put into our bodies.
If a drug is not ridiculously dangerous, which pot is not, why should we be told we`re not allowed to try it? The government is not our parents, it shouldn`t have the right to tell us we can`t do things if they don`t harm other people. If we are not infringing on the rights of other people, what right do they have to say we cannot do something?
Of course if you do drugs and use it to infringe the rights of others, such as driving while intoxicated, etc. THEN the government has a right to punish you for doing so, as it has with alcohol. But otherwise, why should they even have a say?
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Female 3,696
I understand Gerry101`s point of view that just because it is useful medicinally doesn`t mean everyone should have access to it- but they still win their individual arguments as to why it should be accessible medicinally and for recreation(unlike some other examples like morphine).

Apparently Klamz lives in a world where no one he knows needs anti-depressants, has or had cancer, ever gets anxiety attacks or has had severe chronic pain which is all jolly good for him- but these are legitimate needs people have and weed smoked or vaporized (not in pill!) is a safe, relatively instant and easy to adjust dosage legit alternative.

"It`s very simple, instead of passing a joint you pass an non-consenting person"

It`s not that simple- because one infringes on the rights of another while a consenting adult smoking a joint does not, no more than sitting on your deck having a beer does. Jeeze Dude..
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Male 505
@securitywyrm
1. Increased risk of psychosis, I shared a house with a guy who ended up in a mental hospital - he smoked too much but it gets some people
2. Yep, it fits.

To be clear, I have no issues with smoking or legalising (I think they should to get better control, visibility, and support). As long as people make sure they have some close friends who don`t smoke, and take one month every year without smoking (all those points apply to any drug). If you can`t manage those two things then I suggest there is a problem. If someone says you smoke to much, think really hard if they are right, being chilled out all the time means you don`t get as much done, and over time the attitude sticks even when you aren`t smoking. Personally I prefer speed or acid but each to their onwn :)
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Female 934
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Male 688
And I`m rather offended that your offended by my comparison. It`s very simple, instead of passing a joint you pass an non-consenting person.

Here`s the fact that everyone tries to deny because they don`t want to admit it. When you need to use a drug to relax or make you happy you`ve obviously got some problems in your life that need to be dealt with and when you alter your mental state by using drugs your choosing to avoid them and put it off and that doesn`t help the situation at all.

So either suck it up, learn that life sucks and cope with it or suicide because you sound like whiny children "I need drugs, I need drugs, It`s healthy, really!!!! I need it!!!"

GROW UP!
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Male 12
@Gerry1of1,

Your argument doesn`t make sense. The two do not equate. Morphine is known to be highly addictive and physically harmful. Cannabis is not. End.
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Male 1,361
Securitywyrm...I think you just won.

Also
Cannabis vs Alcohol
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Male 89
Please name an argument against marajuana that meets the following criteria
1. The negative factor does not also apply to alcohol, tobacco or caffeine, which are legal.
2. The factor is not directly caused by it being illegal.
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Male 39,948

The arguement that sick people need it therefore it should be openly available to all is like saying "sick people need morphine so I`ll set up a drip at my next party".

The logic doesn`t work.

oh, i`m in favor of legalizing it.... just sayin you should come up with a better arguement. Like it`s harmless or something.
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Male 5,413
Well said.
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Male 546
It should have been legalized, long ago. IMHO
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Male 551
@Fatninja01
Get over that s#it, it is...
Look, to not want something to happen is okay, you could even
express that feeling and protest, that`s your right; but to be
blindfolded and say "It`s not happening" is just retarded, ok?

Open your eyes people! C`mon, Humanity is smarter than that,
I would like to think that, anyway...

And, yes... People who do something that they know is illegal,
even if it doesn`t make sense, should go to jail, that`s what
laws are for... What we really have to do is to legalize it. If
a cop catches me smoking pot I won`t even ask anything, I know it`s
illegal and I`m spending some time in jail, that`s the risk

But it`s also very extremist and stupid to compare it to killing, raping
or even punching somebody... It is just beyond belief to even think
about doing such comparison
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Male 25,416
Its not gonna become legal so give up
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Male 542
Get a bong. Joints are pretty dirty. But whatever works for you.
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Female 3,696
Klamz- Keep in mind these are people saying, yes I know it`s illegal and I`m going to do it anyways. They deserve what they get! Also keep in mind rapists tell themselves the same thing.

I`m kind of offended that you would even attempt to compare sitting on your deck and sharing a joint with a few buddies to the very serious crime of violating someone sexually. Shame on you.
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Male 1,164
@Batmanners

I completely agree. But I think alcohol should be banned.

I hate drunks.
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Male 4,004
Truth is marijuana doesn`t cause people to get violentm, it`s a MUCH MUCH MUCH cheaper habit than drinking, it IS habit forming, but not addictive.

It doesn`t cause you to trip out and have bad trips. You can smoke too much and puke, but anything you smoke will do that.

Compared to alcohol, it is the lesser of two evils. If you compare the pros and cons of both, you would definitely agree that alcohol should be banned.

My point isn`t that however. I don`t want alcohol banned. It`s that out of the two, pot should be legal and it isn`t because the people in charge are uninformed about it. Until people realize how tame pot is compared to booze, things will never change.
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Male 4,004
"but rretty sure the pot heads that want it legalized dont have sweet old ladies in mind"

Disease is the excuse, it`s the foot in the door to legalization.

Imagine for a second a world where alcohol is illegal, but having a joint after a long day`s work is the same as having a beer nowadays.

Beer drinkers would be arrested for having one beer in their fridge and put in jail. Wineries would be treated the same as a gigantic grow-op. It sounds ridiculous doesn`t it? It`s because we have been raised, being taught that marijuana is a drug, and is used by evil drug people.

Yes, it has medicinal properties, but it shouldn`t be classified as a drug in the same way coccaine and heroin are "drugs". It`s ludicrous to do so.
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Male 586
i understand medically, but rretty sure the pot heads that want it legalized dont have sweet old ladies in mind...

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Male 68
@Klamz: You`re right, people do knowingly choose to break the law. I don`t feel sorry for someone who does and gets arrested. My point is that there are cases where it`s of no help to society or the individuals or their family and community when unnecessary arrests occur.

I really have no personal interest in the drug, but I especially hate to see pharma companies profit while people remain sick with side effects when something like this is available and helpful. But they can`t have that relief without legal risk.
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Male 688
"and leads to many unnecessary arrests and broken lives."

Keep in mind these are people saying, yes I know it`s illegal and I`m going to do it anyways. They deserve what they get! Also keep in mind rapists tell themselves the same thing.
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Male 688
That`s the argument? Someone who needs seriously ill needs it so why can`t you have it to get high at a party? - Idiots!

By that argument I should get to have nuclear bombs since other people have them I should get them too!

...IDIOTS!
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Male 68
@bombaytech: First of all, I never said it hurts nobody. And it does not have to come from cartels. That`s a result of it being illegal. And not all pot comes from cartels. Lots of people grow their own.

Personally, I don`t smoke it. I have no reason to. But I see nothing immoral with smoking it, especially not by those who benefit from it medically or psychologically. I also believe that it`s probably safer than alcohol and cigs.

The real tragedy is that low-life drug cartels do get money for meeting the demand. Rather than it being a taxable and controllable product, it is instead a substance that is uncontrolled and leads to many unnecessary arrests and broken lives. I don`t directly blame the government for that, but it seems like it could be beneficial to both citizens and the government to make it legal and provide a safer and controlled environment for growers and users.

Oh, and you`re an imbecile too. Just cause.
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Female 119
My grandparents grew and used Marijuana...My parents did and I do too.... It works better than any other antidepressant I`ve ever been on. I finally turned back to Mary Jane when three different drugs quit working on me.. I smoke daily and feel far better than when I was on Prozac, Zoloft, or Xanax.
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Male 10,855
@bombaytech

YA SRSLY!!!
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Female 673
Hell yeah, she has a roach clip and everything! True pothead.
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Male 1,361
It`s great when all the pot sympathisers are vastly more educated and reasonable about the subject at hand. Stereotype be damned.
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Male 551
@apk892
And you just said everything that had to be said...
Wake up people, cigarretes and alcohol are legal just because
they are a HUGE source of income and those industries could
not compete with weed if it becomes legal

Call me a conspiracy theory looney, but it`s true. The prohibition
is not the only law that is going to be dumped to the trash in the
matter of "drugs"... Marijuana is going to be legalized sooner or
later
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Male 183
see why its illegal.
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Male 183
@bombaytech

marijuana is not 3 times as bad for your lungs as cigarettes. Maybe if you smoke a blunt but keep in mind you`re also smoking a tobacco leaf when you do that. Also, it is not physically addicting. You do not go through withdrawal symptoms when you stop smoking or vaping or cooking marijuana. The only side effect of stopping is that you might find that the day passes along a little slower because you aren`t high.

Smoking anything will always be bad for you. Thats why i like vapes. Damn near nothing bad going into your lungs. Anybody ever consider that?

Also, cigarettes are just so bad for you they should be illegal anyway. Alcohol, you get drunk and go on a rampage either destroying property or getting into fights or something that could probably easily lead to a death (also over consumption of alcohol leads to death). Weed? You just want to sit and chill and if you smoke too much you just take a nap and wake up feeling great. Don`t se
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Male 90
@discomonkey

Even compared to some legal drugs, its still safer. The rate of addiction for people on drugs like oxycotin, vicodin, percocet, or a vast number of anti-depressants is staggering.

@bombaytech

I do not get my information from High Times magazine. Look at the facts, Cigarettes are responsible for around 5 million deaths per year, and are highly addicting. There has not been one recorded case of someone dying because they "got too high". Again, comparing it to alcohol... Alcohol is pretty simple to overdose on. Studies, from universities mind you, have never recorded an overdose on weed.

As for your argument on reducing the budget deficit, do you even know that marijuana is the largest cash crop. It brings in more money that corn and wheat combined. According to ABC, it brings in $35.8 Billion annually. Now, that is only a small percentage compared to our nearly $15 Trillion shortfall, but it is money...
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Male 584
screw you all. make it legal or die
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Male 551
""First, Marijuana is the least dangerous drug out there"

No, it isn`t. Do some real research that isn`t from High Times."

Umm, yes, yes it is...
Also, marijuana isn`t addictive. I`m a proud 23 year old guy,
very articulate, working on my Social Anthropology Thesis, the
first one of it`s kind in my school, currently attending an
Educational Sciences degree and about to start teaching in a
private university

I`m also proud to say that I smoke marijuana from time to time,
it helps me to open my mind, think about things I take for granted
and things that I wouldn`t think normally, which helps me A LOT to
get out of the box and analyze everything from a different perspective,
which, I shouldn`t have to say this, is a HUGE quality for today`s society

If marijuana helps me "recreationally", doesn`t hurt me or others...
I don`t know why it shouldn`t be legalized for medical
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Male 151
@Crawdaddy197

If it weren`t for the fact that even President Obama (who I voted for) has openly admitted to smoking pot and dismissed legalizing it, that might be relevant.
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Male 151
Yes, ultimakewl, the "let us smoke pot" movement is of the exact same magnitude as abolishing slavery.

REALLY?
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Male 226
"How on earth is that relevent? Did you just insinuate smoking weed is tantamount to raping children? Oh dear... "

You`re reading the actual example as the point rather than the correlation between the 2 options discussed in the example.

I`m pretty open minded, but this article did nothing to change my mind on being against marijuana because it makes no points other than "there are worse things that I could be taking."
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Male 833
this is an argument for legalizing medical marijuana... not all marijuana use

but just because
@bombaytech "if America wanted it legal, it would be. It`s not like we couldn`t change the law if we wanted to. We just don`t. And you are wasting your time. It`s a stupid drug, and nothing like alcohol, which taken in moderation is nowhere near as dangerous or stupid. Get over it already. drat."
just like america didnt want slavery abolished, or segregation ended, or equal rights, or women voters, or gay marriage.
no rallies or movements or petitions ever changed peoples minds on those issues either, so it clearly wont work here.
just because the majority of the politically powerful do not want it now does not mean that that wont change

note: i am not arguing any of your other points. i just dont care that much. im just pointing out how terrible of a reason that specific one is.
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Male 1,361
@bombaytech Im sure feda means least dangerous illegal drug.
Feel free to correct me by giving an example of one less harmful.
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Male 1,293
I know someone who had both cocaine and diamorphine (aka heroine) on the NHS. Why not marijuana?
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Male 151
"First, Marijuana is the least dangerous drug out there"

No, it isn`t. Do some real research that isn`t from High Times.

"Lastly, shouldn`t taking the worlds largest cash crop out of the hands of cartels and into a legal industry be a good idea? Then, crime would be reduced, we could cut our huge budge"

Were you going to say cut our huge budget deficit? Because, believe it or not, not that many people are as obsessed with pot as this small but vocal minority. Besides, the pothead group already pays state police salary in fines with their non-addictive non harmful substance that they are always, to their detriment, getting busted with.
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Male 353
@bombaytech Do you actually study up on this or just say what FOX tells you to say?
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Male 1,361
@bombaytech In my own opinion, Marijuana should not be any more illegal than Cigarettes and Alcohol.

Smoking pot (the most harmful way to take marijuana) is no where near as bad as smoking cigarettes. No one smokes as much pot as another person smokes cigarettes and even if they are using tobacco when they do, there`s going to be less of it than in a regular cigarette.

You`re correct when saying it`s nothing like Alcohol. Alcohol is cheap, it`s accessible, and everyone who mildly looks over the legal age can get it. If we`re looking at typical worst case scenarios, "doper potheads" aren`t causing anywhere near as much damage as alcoholics. Drunk driving, binge drinking, alcoholic abusive parenting, young women getting raped after they`ve been drinking because they`re so out of it they can barely walk.
And drug users are the ones who out right break the law by even possessing their poison?

If cigarettes and alcohol were invented tomorrow, do you
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Male 39,948

I kick myself that I married one of those anti-marijuana people!
What was I thinking!?

grrrrrr! I can`t have any fun
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Male 85
If her doctor really told her that, then I hope she got a new doctor.
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Male 3
I don`t know where you guys get your weed, but I tend to buy from people I know and trust. they are people who either grow it themselves, or buy direct from their friends that grow it. There is no violent drug cartel or gangs in this equation. Just a bunch of hippies who make money by selling part of their crop.
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Male 90
@bombaytech

First, Marijuana is the least dangerous drug out there. While smoke inhalation will always be bad for you, it is much safer than cigarettes. Why? You`re smoking a plant, not cat litter and fiberglass. In fact, studies show that Cannabinoids can reduce cancer/tumors in patients. Even compared to alcohol it is much safer. Alcohol tends to make you more depressed and/or violent, causes liver damage, and accounts for many more deaths per year. Plus, different strains of marijuana produce different levels of high, allowing for moderation.

Second, It is NOT addicting. To say weed is addicting is saying that chocolate muffins are addicting. Sure, I love them...but I can stop any time.I have seen many so called "pot heads" stop smoking and had no withdrawl symptoms.

Lastly, shouldn`t taking the worlds largest cash crop out of the hands of cartels and into a legal industry be a good idea? Then, crime would be reduced, we could cut our huge budge
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Male 633
@bombaytech, i really hope you`re trolling.
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Male 151
Marijuana is a dangerous drug. If not for the bazillion side effects it has, it is three times as bad for your lungs than cigarettes, which are barely legal for this alone.

Marijuana is addicting. I can`t think of a person I know that didn`t know some doper pothead who couldn`t do anything or think anything unrelated to his next fix. Like making some stupid submission on I-A-B to "change the world".

Marijuana funds cartels and gang lords. It gets people killed. This alone isn`t a reason to make it legal.

And beyond all that *drum roll*... if America wanted it legal, it would be. It`s not like we couldn`t change the law if we wanted to. We just don`t. And you are wasting your time. It`s a stupid drug, and nothing like alcohol, which taken in moderation is nowhere near as dangerous or stupid. Get over it already. drat.
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Male 320
I say get you some Granny. If God grew we should be allowed to do it.
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Female 10
@Keyh "Sitting on my computer, whacking off to child porn. I do this once a day. I`ve been doing it for 35 years; ever since I hit puberty. It feels good. Without it, I`d be raping children. I`m not hurting anybody. I`m just here in my own house."
How on earth is that relevent? Did you just insinuate smoking weed is tantamount to raping children? Oh dear...
You do have a vague point, people are abused in the illegal drug trade, but that wouldn`t be a problem if marijuana was legal, now would it?

@Spl0uf ...Umh, the children that are in child porn ARE being raped and/or sexually abused...it is never excusable. EVER.

I`ve only ever commented on things here a couple of times but I just felt like things needed to be said.
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Male 151
Gortrok , kineo

Okay, since it`s not the same argument and marijuana absolutely hurts nobody.... WHERE DO YOU THINK IT IS COMING FROM... the magic mystery wagon? How much cartel and gang money do you think is wrapped up in your harmless little toke? Imbeciles.
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Male 910
@Keyh that actually makes alot of sense. except the fact that child porn is morally wrong by our standards, whereas smoking a plant does not conflict with morals, nor does it hurt anyone in the case that there are worse things. i dont smoke weed cause i have a lung disease, but im all for medical mrijuana. but as corrupt as the US is they want money aimed towards buying pharmaceutical drugs.
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Male 772
@Keyh: That`s not the same thing AT ALL. Child porn hurts the children by screwing them up psychologically and sometimes physically. Marijuana... gives you the munchies. That is a ridiculous anecdote to use.
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Male 4,902
it`s not going to happen
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Male 552
I live in South California, it`s pretty close to legal here.
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Male 151
"What are they going to do, arrest me?"

Yes. Yes actually. What, you think they won`t just because you are old or something?
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Male 68
@Keyh: I think the bigger argument is that it`s legitimately helping people where the alternative is a terrible alternative.

How about this: You`re thirsty. You can have a glass of clean water or you can have a glass of dirty water. They both will cure your thirst, but one will have undesired side effects.

Anyone can play the straw-man game.
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Male 985
Medical Marijuana I 100% totally agree with.
If Marijuana was consumed in private at home, I 100% agree with it, so long as they do not have young children.
Its just in public I don`t want to have to walk into people who are high, I get that enough already and its annoying as poop.
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Male 950
awyeeeeeee
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Male 226
How about this:

"Sitting on my computer, whacking off to child porn. I do this once a day. I`ve been doing it for 35 years; ever since I hit puberty. It feels good. Without it, I`d be raping children. I`m not hurting anybody. I`m just here in my own house."

"There are worse things" is not an argument for something.
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Male 1,010
Yeah he sat in the car for a few minutes ... bet he sat there for like half an hour, hahaha!!

We, the people - WANT POT, FOR EFFS SAKE! Decriminalize!
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Male 559
Marcy is a woman.
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Female 1,148
awww..poor guy. :(
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Male 970
Link: The Argument For Legalizing Marijuana [Pic] [Rate Link] - You tell `em, Marcy Dolin.
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