Terrorist Attack In Norway: 85 Confirmed Dead

Submitted by: Hawcon 5 years ago

Anders Behring Breivik, extremist Christian, was arrested for killing 7 in an Oslo bombing, 85 at a youth camp yesterday
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Male 4,283
"Why does the phrase "Christian Extremist" get all the attention? "

Maybe because the word Christian is found 2247 times in his manifesto.
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Male 206
Why does the phrase "Christian Extremist" get all the attention? Not that I`m claiming there`s no such thing, but it seems to be more relevent that this guiy was a conservative psychopath who felt mass slaughter was justified because he didn`t like the immigration policies of the democracy he lived in.

"Christian extremist?" Maybe. "Rightwing lunatic?" Definitely.
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Male 1,122
Religion....justifying crazy since the written word began.
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Male 53
or we could all stop argueing about this retard since that is probably what he wanted us to do the most.
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Male 448
Who wants to bet this story with the phrase "Christian Extremist" will never make it on Fox News?
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Male 1,360
god is the reason we can`t have nice things
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Male 4,283
"Thaaaaaaaaaat being said I was surprised at how good-looking this terrorist was."

I`m not going to pretend that I didn`t either. At the same time though I thought is this Trey Parker?
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Female 3,598
i wanna burn a Bible and a Q`uran together, at the same time, so they both turn to dust... lol but i know this guy was just a crazy person, and that right-wing =/= christian, just wanted to throw that out there...
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Male 1,164
I guess it`s also important to know the difference between "Christian" and "Right-Wing". "Christian" refers to the religion, while "Right-Wing" is a political scale. While both involve world views, they are independant things and do not determine each other.

Christian believes in the Bible. Right-wing believes things should go back to the way they were.

Thaaaaaaaaaat being said I was surprised at how good-looking this terrorist was.
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Male 17,512
markust: The difference is in what is being preached, Christians don`t preach violence - Romans 12:19, Matthew 5:39, and many others say not too.

Many mosques around the world preach violence, vengeance and hate, and those raised in that ideology have committed hundreds of terrorist actions, A lunatic Christian commits one and all the crooked fingers come pointing out from liberal hands.
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Male 541
I don`t understand why you guys manage to discuss religion on here. This had nothing to do with religiosity, but rather, nationalism and multiculturalism, illusion of grandeur, sociopathy, and what he labeled cultural marxism.
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Male 42
@ChrisMunich: I`m basing what I`ve said over observation. I see more violent acts perpetrated by muslims than christians, recently. Want to test my theory? Burn a bible and put the video on youtube. I`d wager that at most you get a few death threats from some of the more extreme christians. Now go burn the koran, and put that video up. You or someone else in the world will die because of your video. If you disagree, feel free to give it a shot.

@markust: I`m an atheist. God doesn`t actually exist, as far as I`m concerned. It makes these heinous acts of violence all the more perplexing.
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Male 4,283
The weather has only gone over 80 degrees in Seattle for 79 minutes this year. We`re hitting 80 today. I`m heading out to go boating with my FB.

Sorry for being such a dick on religion. Just trying to point out how ridiculous Christians behave towards Muslims.
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Male 552
He wasn`t a christian... He was just a guy who hated Muslims.
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Male 4,283
"Isolated incident of hate perpetrated by an insane man vs. global incidents of hate perpetrated by an insane religion."

Christianity is as "insane" as you put it as the Muslim religion. For every extreme passage in the Koran there is an equally extreme passage in the bible. "But but but Christ dying for our sins voids out those archaic rules" Right. Both books can steer people to do horrific acts. Both books can easily be used for evil. How is that the word of God?
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Male 81
@Reignblazer: Sry i barked at you like that.
But this monstrues action has left my brain in turmoil since it happened.

I was angry because what had happened.
The way he got ahold of his guns in norway where trough proper channels(Police and gunclubs), and as a avid sportshooter myself, my thoughts went from shock to fear, of loosing my favorite hobby because of this.

It is a horrible thing that has happened, and i wish there was a way to undo it. theese youths and theyre families where in no way desrving of it.

Boresome
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Male 383
@sexytexan: And you`re basing this terribly scientific observation on what, exactly?
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Male 42
Isolated incident of hate perpetrated by an insane man vs. global incidents of hate perpetrated by an insane religion.

Give your average Christian or Atheist a nuke and they`ll likely try to find a way to turn it back in to the proper authorities.

Give your average Muslim a nuke and they`ll likely try to find a way to send it to DC.
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Male 5
I was in central oslo during the bombing. Never thought I had to experience something like that in my lifetime. A sad day for my country..

@goaliejerry: Please explain why killing him would be better than getting him alive? I`m glad they got him alive. If they had shot him, too many questions would`ve remained unanswered.. he would have died a martyr for the few, and an untouchable monster for millions of people around the world.

Death is not a punishment for people ready to become martyrs. Keeping them alive is.. to show them that their deeds failed miserably in what they tried to accomplish.

And I`m certain that, in spite of what Faux News might insinuate, he will never see freedom again. Whereas we must fight harder than ever to protect ours. Our democracy, our freedom and our open society.

If the first thing we do is kill the man who try to rob us from it, just because we can and not because we have to.. then he would`ve tasted victory before we
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Male 4,283
Far right conservatives tend to associate terrorists with the muslim religion yet when a nut job like this turns out to be a right wing Christian fundamentalist the cry goes out not to associate the act with religion. Hypocrites. Judge not, and ye shall not be judged.
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Male 53
@goaliejerry: Really? Really Really? An american trying to teach us about guns, nutjobs, immigration policies and homocides? at least have the decency to look up the statistics before you go on your "usausausa" rant.
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Male 17,512
goaliejerry: [quote]Extremist Christian anti-Islamist anti-immigration nutjob right-winger gunman . . . why does this seem vaguely familiar?[/quote]
[quote]Sorry CrakrJak, I couldn`t resist...[/quote]

Excuse me ? Are you really comparing me to that terrorist ? I sure the hell hope you aren`t, not even in a joking manner, If so you are truly a horrible libeler.
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Male 130
I`m thinking this could very well be the work of another country trying to scare Norway out of drilling in the Artic circle for oil. Because at this very moment Canada, the US, Russia and Norway are all claiming ownership of the artic circle and there is this huge political sqawl for the oil there. The part that is often overlooked in this story is that the bomb also hit the Norwegian Ministry of Oil. Rember this is a theory i created because calling him a Right Wing nut is just an oversimplification of his motives.
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Male 130
Right off the bat I`d like to send my sincerest condolencences to the families and people of Norway. I can`t say i know the guys motive but this is very similar to when a group of Georgian rebels attacked a Russian school killing all the students to prove a political point of independance. There is no better fear tactic then attacking children. This bomb was very sophisticated i would not doubt that he had outside aid for his mission.
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Male 4,014
He`s not even afraid of losing his life - if I`m not mistaken, they have no death penalty - he will be in prison forever.
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Male 4,014
Sorry CrakrJak, I couldn`t resist, I`ve heard the same political rantings from people in this country, but at least our swat teams show up quickly. Jesus Europe, understand - you open your borders, guns and their attendant nutjobs will come, so keep your cops well armed and responsive.

This was more horrific than I can even imagine. A horror island. He killed so many people with guns, completely unmolested by law enforcement. AND THEY CAPTURED HIM ALIVE. They should have blown his brains out, said he pointed a gun at them.
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Male 4,014
Extremist Christian anti-Islamist anti-immigration nutjob right-winger gunman . . . why does this seem vaguely familiar?

Terrible. The cold calculation - stalking out and attacking a leftist political retreat for youths contained on an island - unreal.
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Male 1,744
"...arrested..."

why the hell wasn`t this guy just shot on sight? really, do we really need to put him through the system? Just kill the douche already.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Now will people believe us when we say all religion has violent extremists?[/quote]

No, because it isn`t true. Nearly all, but not all. Although that might only be due to some religions not having any power. For example, do you have any examples of violent extremist Wiccans? I`d be very surprised if you do.

There are some other important differences:

1) He has been arrested, not convicted. So he`s still innocent.

2) If he is guilty, his religion might or might not be relevant. It`s not necessarily like Muslim murderers who kill directly because of their religion, as an expression of their religion - we don`t know whether or not that`s the case here.
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Female 418
I cant believe 1 man did all of this.
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Male 802
Am I the only who noticed the witnesses interviewed in the video don`t look Norwegian at all?
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Female 28
This is such a tragedy. I can only hope that if nothing else, people can learn from this. You don`t have to be a Muslim to be a lunatic. Christians are not exempt from their fair share of insane followers. Living in the US, it`s a valuable lesson. (On another depressing note, how much encouragement will this provide the Westboro Baptist Church?)
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Female 2,695
oh my god ): that is so sad.
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Male 2,332
@boresome: What I was getting at was a more thorough screening of applicants, checking if they have any history of violence or mental illnesses etc.

Of course you can`t stop them getting it illegally, but it sure as hell beats doing absolutely nothing about it, wouldn`t you agree?
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Male 871
a bit like all right wingers taking 9/11 to blame all muslims eh!?
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Male 2,384
and my mom asks me why i`m an atheist
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Male 17,512
I find it disgusting that a `Christian` would ignore Romans 12:19 "Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God`s wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay," says the Lord."

He was obviously not in his right mind, to have planned and committed such an atrocity. What will be even more of an atrocity is how the left will use this one man`s actions to libel all Christians.
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Male 81
Reignblazer:Probably a good idea to tighten up gun-control, but if this is the act of a single individual, there`s not much you can do to prevent such things from happening.

O`really? punishing the average gun owner for other people do then .. maybe we should have car control too then, atleast here in norway that kills many times more than guns ever do ...

Don`t get me wrong , what happened is bloody horrible and the man should never had a gun.
But taking all the guns from the law abiding people, will not stop criminals and mentaly insane people from getting ahold of them.

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Male 383
@Grumpdock: That made very, very little sense
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Male 317
[quote]Maybe you haven`t noticed, but the news also likes to mention religion when it`s a terrorist from the Middle_east. But you`re ultimately correct that a persons faith shouldn`t be included in their background if the are suspected of terrorism, because, in the end, even if they do it in the name of God, or Allah, or Buddha, or whatever, they don`t represent their faith accurately. (hence, the term "extremist")[/quote]


And maybe you haven`t noticed, but it is their version of their faith that causes Muslim "extremists" if you want to call them, to commit terrorism, not anything else (Unlike this man as far as we know). They do it in the name of their god, in their own faith. And actually yes, they represent their faith perfectly. That`s like a Protestant saying to a Mormon, they are not a Christian, because they have a different belief in Christianity. You can get many different beliefs from a book like the Quran or the bible.
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Male 599
Hmm...Guess he forgot to read about the atonement. That`s the most important part of the book.
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Female 407
@PacoP42 please do the world a favor and get sterilized before the stupid has a chance to spread.

My thoughts and prayers go out to all the family and survivors of this horrible tragedy.
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Male 7
@Willowwatch
Because it`s not Yellow Journalism.

@PacoP42
...really?

@Gerry1of1
People? Which people? Be specific now.
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Male 144
Al Jazeera? On MY I-A-B?
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Male 37,888

Why do the people in Norway speak better english than the people in Los Angeles?
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Male 1,064
looks like those kids had...
-puts on sunglasses-
..norway out

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!
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Male 25,416
wow... this is just fd up!
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Male 1,216
I know this isn`t exactly the right time to say this, but I was shocked to see that absolutely nobody needed a translator.

Any, this is truly tragic and sad.
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Female 734
Why are you getting your news from Al Jazeera?
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Male 1,360
I`m so sorry for norge, my thoughts to all.
It`s a mad world...
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Male 1,053
last time I looked, 85+7=92
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Male 3,364
Grumpdoc said: "Extremist Christian? That`s implying his religion is the cause of this, which is unknown, but unlikely. Stupid caption."

Maybe you haven`t noticed, but the news also likes to mention religion when it`s a terrorist from the Middle_east. But you`re ultimately correct that a persons faith shouldn`t be included in their background if the are suspected of terrorism, because, in the end, even if they do it in the name of God, or Allah, or Buddha, or whatever, they don`t represent their faith accurately. (hence, the term "extremist")
What`s really stupid is that the post about Amy Winehouse dying already has as many hits and comments as this story. If anyone wants to know why terrorists attack....there`s your clue right there.
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Female 2
Guncontrol are relatively strict here in Norway. I guess this proves that loonies also come in blond, blue-eyed, tall, christian packages.

I`ve been told not to be so paranoid when I`ve mentioned the possibilities of terrorist attacks here in Norway. Guess I woun`t hear that anymore. I hate to be right on this one.

We woun`t give up and we woun`t surrender and we woun`t stop being open. But we`re going to stop being naive and I hope that we woun`t accept hate against people with other religions, political views, sexual orientation and skin-colour than ourselves anymore. The hate has to stop right now. And still it would be a day too late.
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Male 5,314
that`s f*cked up
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Male 2,332
Just saw this on the news. Horrible and senseless.

Am curious on how the media and politicians will spin this.

Probably a good idea to tighten up gun-control, but if this is the act of a single individual, there`s not much you can do to prevent such things from happening.

The news mentioning he enjoyed video games was mildly humorous, but mostly aggravating.
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Male 526
This is a horrible horrible tragedy and I`m going to feel like a dick for saying this but I did all my crying and feeling bad and lonely and vulnerable last night so here goes.

Lol at comments here and on other articles that mention his religion. Lots of "this man is a lunatic, he isn`t representative of Christianity at all yadda yadda". Same people on articles reporting on Muslim terrorists, "Should`ve been obvious this freak was one of *them* turban wearing idiots. The whole religion is fudged, and sexist, and immoral, and behind on the times!"
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Male 19,838
snack1928: he is an extremist right-wing Christian. That`s a fact.
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Male 802
Nazi`s can be Christians right?
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Male 6,737
Yup, terrible. Absolutely sickening. My thoughts are with the friends and relatives of those affected.

Militant religious extremism is bad, k?
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Male 317
Extremist Christian? That`s implying his religion is the cause of this, which is unknown, but unlikely. Stupid caption.
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Male 3,364
Our thoughts go out to the Norwegians. What a tragedy.
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Male 1,442
It is up to 91 confirmed dead now.
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Male 14,773
My heart goes out to all who have suffered as a result of this.
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Male 6
It`s curious that he`s labeled as a `christian extremist`, as you don`t hear much... or actually anything about such groups (only about `them arabs`). It is... refreshing (yeah, bad word to use in the current situation) to see that our culturo-sphere is just as fudged up as others.

The real point behind it is that he wasn`t just a religious psychopath, but a right-wing radical psychopath. If this was religious, he`d blow up a mosque or a church or shoot at congregation of at a religious rally. This was an action aimed against the government, and has little to do with religion (unless he later states that he was inspired `by God` or `Buddha` or w/e to do so).

He`s a right-wing extremist psychopath that decided to `do something` about `the goverment` that he thinks `is bad`. So see kids? It`s not just religion, IT`S POLITICS.
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Male 383
@snack1928: Numerous news sources, such as the BBC and Norwegian papers/media, have reported on his right-wing and Christian views.
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Male 3,285
Ib4 "he should be killed himself".


Sorry sheep. THis isnt america.
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Male 768
New high score?
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Male 35
i like how the video says nothing about him being a christian, and yet the description says he was an extremist christian.
people, please correctly describe what you are posting, thanks
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Male 1,421
Damn you extremist everywhere. We should gather them round, put them in a small island and give them plenty of guns.
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Female 349
One of my best friends lives in Moss, I was texting him like mad yesterday - luckily he`s alright. I feel so sorry for these poor people :(
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Male 37,888

Of course it`s a religious nut job.
Whenever violence on this level happens it is ALWAYS a religious jerk.
And yet, they all claim to be faiths of peace and love.
Go figure...
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Male 220
Now will people believe us when we say all religion has violent extremists?
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Male 383
Poor Norwegians :( My sincere condolences to all those involved. Let`s hope that the Norwegians don`t let fear and terror rule their lives, and that they can hopefully mourn these horrible events and move on as a nation.
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Male 44
Link: Terrorist Attack In Norway: 85 Confirmed Dead [Rate Link] - Anders Behring Breivik, extremist Christian, was arrested for killing 7 in an Oslo bombing, 85 at a youth camp yesterday
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