Stephen Fry Vs Widdecombe: Catholic Church Debate

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 5 years ago in Misc

Animated snippets from Ann Widdecombe and Stephen Fry debating if "The Catholic Church is a force for good in the world"
There are 42 comments:
Male 67
If you are religious, and defend your choice to be so, you are dumb. Period.
0
Reply
Male 1,646
Even though i disagree with Ann, I would have liked to hear all of her argument as well.
0
Reply
Male 85
i hate ann widdecombe the bigoted old hag
0
Reply
Male 1,569
I liked Ann here more...
0
Reply
Male 157
its a church!! herpderp
0
Reply
Male 2,551
dikybird - you win the debate.
0
Reply
Male 5
1:05 goatsee
0
Reply
Male 196
The bit about Jesus not being let in the door is a great argument. Imagine if they actually took the vow of poverty seriously... :-O
0
Reply
Male 3,147
@Beardofzeus.

A very sincere thanks to you... for posting that link to the Blair/Hitchens debate on religion.

I didn`t have the time to watch it last night when i first saw your post, but have just watched the whole thing now. It was well worth the hour and a half investment.

0
Reply
Male 4,290
[quote]Fry had great arguments against the Church of olden times, but he really didn`t address the modern Church at all.[/quote]
Didn`t you hear the part at the very start of Fry`s speech, where he talked about the Vatican teaming up with Islamic nations at the UN Conference on Population and Development in Cairo in 1994?

Or the very next part, where he quoted the current Pope saying that gay people are "disordered" and "morally evil"?

Considering that this is a church that has had a long and public association with male paedophilic rape amongst its ranks, and bearing in mind that this is the same institution that refused to publicly condemn the Nazis during WW2, I hardly think they`re in a position to be pointing fingers and calling other people morally bankrupt.
0
Reply
Male 749
Fry had great arguments against the Church of olden times, but he really didn`t address the modern Church at all. The exception being his complaint that the Church is against abortion, and drat them, they are acting consistently with that belief!

I think Widdecombe won this one.
0
Reply
Male 749
[quote]Ann Widdecombe would have make a perfect Professor Umbridge. [/quote]

She sounds more like McGonagall to me,
0
Reply
Male 206
Stephen Fry...FTW
0
Reply
Male 2,553
>Groogle
I love your timing, giving up listening just before Stephen Fry. Which, from your comment, I deduce was the one who`s opinion you were waiting to hear?
0
Reply
Male 13
That womans Voice is so annoying.
Yeah, and Stephen Fry rocks.
0
Reply
Male 4,902
Stephen Fry for President of the Universe...
0
Reply
Female 6,381
@BigM:
I love it when people know they difference between there, their, and they`re.
0
Reply
Male 266
Groogle: at 1:41, Stephen Fry starts talking. listen to it
0
Reply
Male 2,172
1:40 into the video and I just couldn`t bear any more of that bullsh t.

Keep the message of hope, keep the good will teatching, keep everything that was good about every religion that ever existed if you can... but let go of the delusion because it`s causing a lot more harm to our species then all the good it has ever brought up combined. It`s litteraly killed us all.

K thnks bai.
0
Reply
Male 3,894
I like this. a lot.
0
Reply
Male 130
mhmm i love there accents. wish i had one like that.
0
Reply
Male 2,551
Fatninja01 - it`s `fall on deaf ears`. :P
0
Reply
Male 122
@Fatninja01, i know right? im not saying that i understand everything either, but usually the loudest critics are the ones that have no idea what theyre talking about
0
Reply
Male 1,557
Fantastic. Bravo Mr Fry.
0
Reply
Male 985
Love hearing Stephen fry debate, and Ann was a a awesome challenge :)
0
Reply
Male 25,416
Educated arguements full of deaf ears
0
Reply
Male 670
If anybody feels the urge to listen to more English people debate this topic then this is a fantastically well-organised and debate between Christopher Hitchens and Tony Blair on whether Religion is a force for good. Very interesting ending where each is asked to pick one argument from the other side which they feel is a good one...interesting debate
0
Reply
Male 358
Ann Widdecombe would have make a perfect Professor Umbridge.
0
Reply
Female 12
I could listen to Stephen Fry for ages. His arguments are so well put!
0
Reply
Male 56
For a regilious body based on salvation and preach, surely an inquisatorial stance, why is there any need for any element of hieracy other than to keep the relgion together? Why isn`t it more left wing?
0
Reply
Male 3,147
Anne Widdecombe is an ugly. nasty biggot.... and whilst I don`t like any religion, none are that bad they should deserve her as self-appointed spokesperson.

0
Reply
Male 56
There`s so much weight behind Stephen`s argument in comparision
0
Reply
Male 77
Was this a Prezzi presentation?
0
Reply
Male 483
I love the seemingly infinite eloquence of Stephen Fry.
0
Reply
Male 1,162
I couldnt follow it honestly.
0
Reply
Male 493
For once, a debate about religion that is worthwhile. I believe each side had legitimate points, and the rebuttals were fair and truthful. I believe people who have a hard time deciding if they should affiliate with a religion or not should view this video, as it provides good facts and opinions.
0
Reply
Male 2,440
Ann Widdecombe`s voice. o_o
0
Reply
Male 697
Didnt I see this here last year? Why has it gotten another surge of interest
0
Reply
Female 7,867
Yes, an excellent debate.
0
Reply
Male 10
Let the comment wars begin!
0
Reply
Male 6,737
Watched this full debate a year or so back. Made for good viewing.
0
Reply
Female 8,044
Link: Stephen Fry Vs Widdecombe: Catholic Church Debate [Rate Link] - Animated snippets from Ann Widdecombe and Stephen Fry debating if `The Catholic Church is a force for good in the world`
0
Reply