Stand Your Ground

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 6 years ago in Misc

An interesting look at reactions as 6 photographers test their right to shoot in London, in public, on public property.
There are 33 comments:
Male 67
I love the 11:50 to 13:00 =)
Makes me feel there is humanity left in our humble planet.
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Male 85
photographers are pretencious mean persons anyway
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Male 3,431
The video would be more interesting if the photographers had the stones to do it in NORTH KOREA instead of essentially sticking their finger in the face of the security guard and shouting "I`m not touching you".
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Male 12,365
[quote]British police are really nice, as long as you are nice to them. There just needs to be mutual respect.[/quote]

True. I`ve been stopped by the police numerous times. I used to go for walks in the middle of the night and a young man dressed in black wandering around a housing estate at 2 in the morning looks a bit suspicious to police cruising around to prevent crime, especially when he`s carrying a large bag. So they politely asked me what I was doing and I politely told them. No problem.

A copper once caught me breaking into a flat. I was subletting it at the time, so I had no proof I lived there. I`d left my keys at work and was trying to get in doing minimal damage. It was taking some time to take out a pane of glass and I realised someone was behind me. Turned round and there was a copper wanting to know what was going on. Fair enough. He was polite, I was polite, there wasn`t any hassle.
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Male 5,413
Those security guards were just making up such rubbish. "Terrorism act", Ha no! It`s a double standard that Public can`t record Private but Private can record Publuc. By that I mean they can film us with their CCTV. I read a statistic that Londoners are caught on CCTV 300 times a day, even while doing something simple like going to Troc or Forbidden Planet. I`d rather have that than being beaten, tased, handcuffed, yelled at and possibly being shot at.

Even still there are the odd times when police brutality still occurs, like at the G8 summit. Generally the police are nothing like the ones in America though.
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Male 11
@jwhalerfan
3rd world countries? i hope you are being sarcastic mate
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Male 296
There might not be anything wrong with what you`re doing but that sweater has to go.
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Male 411
It`s interesting to see how normal people interact with each other without yelling, or getting beaten by the police.
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Male 220
LOL Stupid 3rd world countries are funny.
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Male 349
Good on the bobbies.
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Male 316
British police are really nice, as long as you are nice to them. There just needs to be mutual respect.
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Male 599
Oh I see, so the security guards are concerned about terrorists. Must protect those staff and buildings.

For crying out loud a terrorist is not going to advertise photographing. They are going to do it out of sight with stealth. Use some freaking sense in your plea dumb ass security rent a cop.
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Male 718
I can tell you one thing, the cops in the UK look to be ALOT nicer then the non-nice individuals we got over here in America. you know, stop you and tell you they should have killed you when they find out you was carrying a gun (legally)
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Male 12,365
[quote]British Police are a lot nicer because they don`t have a gun on their hip. If you go into a situation were you`re outnumbered you better be nice or you`re gonna get hurt.[/quote]

Actually, it`s because they`re trained that way as it`s usually the most effective approach.

It also helps a lot that it`s very unlikely that anyone they deal with is armed. If you frequently go into situations where the other person might shoot you, you`d better go in hard all the time or sooner or later you`re going to get killed.
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Male 12,365
[quote]This makes me crazy. How is it English police know the law yet American police do not?[/quote]

It wasn`t always like this - people have been arrested in England for taking photos in public, on public property. It became a political issue and has largely been sorted out.
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Male 801
And the system works?


....That can`t be right? Can it?
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Male 540
It`s nice to see something that skews the internet`s opinion of police in the other direction.
Pity such things are less exciting than confrontation, which would be why the general opinion is so low in the first place.
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Male 4,902
British Police are a lot nicer because they don`t have a gun on their hip. If you go into a situation were you`re outnumbered you better be nice or you`re gonna get hurt.
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Female 1,589
@ chimmeychang I think someone`s house is a bit different. If someone was doing that to me I would be concerned about stalkers.
If any of these people had huge zoom lenses that allowed them to see into windows from a few floors up, then I can also understand the security guard`s concern.
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Male 483
Holy crap, your officers in England are decent human beings?? I`m packing and moving out of this dictatorship tomorrow! (I wish)
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Male 2,988
Man, the police in London were way more well behaved than what we see coming out of the US. The security guys were pretty much all a**holes.
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Male 881
What I find funny is you can see a security camera on one of the buildings pointed right at where the guy was taking pictures.
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Male 684
If there was someone standing on the sidewalk in front of your house taking pictures of your house,they would be standing on public property...Who wouldn`t go at least check them out?The reactions of the photographers in all cases were reason enough to believe they were just being douchy.
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Male 25,416
Test the laws.... expect consiquences
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Male 7,378
This makes me crazy. How is it English police know the law yet American police do not?
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Male 303
Well this is certainly an improvement on the polices attitude towards public video and photography. They used to arrest people in those situations.

I love how some of the security guards were misusing laws to try and scare people into doing what they wanted and using one attack as justification. This country has become enough of a police state as it is on the excuse of one attack. We didn`t become a police state when the IRA were doing it so why now?

Now we need to stop them censoring the internet and we may start to get somewhere half decent.
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Male 15,271
The plod were right on. I am relieved to see that the Met seem to have a policy in accordance with the law.

Technically, I believe you may set up a long lens and video people keying their passwords into a security access panel or an ATM. However, that would give the police reasonable suspicion to question you and/or take their investigation further.

...and well done to the building manager who invited them onto the estate.
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Male 633
i love how nice people are in London, even when they have to be confrontational.
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Male 502
And the European posters have problems with OUR police state?
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Male 5,167
Europe FTW. You see what a police man is supposed to be MMerika?
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Male 1,364
jarvis roosterer - mean persons are still running the world
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Male 4,793
it took four and a half minutes for me to ask myself `why the fu*k am i watching this??`
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Female 8,043
Link: Stand Your Ground [Rate Link] - An interesting look at reactions as 6 photographers test their right to shoot in London, in public, on public property.
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