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Date: 07/23/11 09:24 AM

33 Responses to Stand Your Ground

  1. Profile photo of kitteh9lives
    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    July 23, 2011 at 9:06 am
    Link: Stand Your Ground - An interesting look at reactions as 6 photographers test their right to shoot in London, in public, on public property.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
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    July 23, 2011 at 9:45 am
    it took four and a half minutes for me to ask myself `why the fu*k am i watching this??`
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    alpensepp Male 70 & Over
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    July 23, 2011 at 9:45 am
    jarvis roosterer - mean persons are still running the world
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    July 23, 2011 at 9:50 am
    Europe FTW. You see what a police man is supposed to be MMerika?
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    Shelworth Male 50-59
    389 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 9:50 am
    And the European posters have problems with OUR police state?
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    lemmingboy15 Male 18-29
    635 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 10:00 am
    i love how nice people are in London, even when they have to be confrontational.
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    Draculya Male 40-49
    14653 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 10:06 am
    The plod were right on. I am relieved to see that the Met seem to have a policy in accordance with the law.

    Technically, I believe you may set up a long lens and video people keying their passwords into a security access panel or an ATM. However, that would give the police reasonable suspicion to question you and/or take their investigation further.

    ...and well done to the building manager who invited them onto the estate.
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    Arcval Male 18-29
    304 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 10:19 am
    Well this is certainly an improvement on the polices attitude towards public video and photography. They used to arrest people in those situations.

    I love how some of the security guards were misusing laws to try and scare people into doing what they wanted and using one attack as justification. This country has become enough of a police state as it is on the excuse of one attack. We didn`t become a police state when the IRA were doing it so why now?

    Now we need to stop them censoring the internet and we may start to get somewhere half decent.
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 10:39 am
    This makes me crazy. How is it English police know the law yet American police do not?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    July 23, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    Test the laws.... expect consiquences
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
    685 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    If there was someone standing on the sidewalk in front of your house taking pictures of your house,they would be standing on public property...Who wouldn`t go at least check them out?The reactions of the photographers in all cases were reason enough to believe they were just being douchy.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
    881 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    What I find funny is you can see a security camera on one of the buildings pointed right at where the guy was taking pictures.
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    CoyoteKing Male 18-29
    2988 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 1:58 pm
    Man, the police in London were way more well behaved than what we see coming out of the US. The security guys were pretty much all a**holes.
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    IrishJesus Male 18-29
    483 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 2:13 pm
    Holy crap, your officers in England are decent human beings?? I`m packing and moving out of this dictatorship tomorrow! (I wish)
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    the_windy Female 18-29
    1589 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    @ chimmeychang I think someone`s house is a bit different. If someone was doing that to me I would be concerned about stalkers.
    If any of these people had huge zoom lenses that allowed them to see into windows from a few floors up, then I can also understand the security guard`s concern.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    July 23, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    British Police are a lot nicer because they don`t have a gun on their hip. If you go into a situation were you`re outnumbered you better be nice or you`re gonna get hurt.
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    Caretta Male 18-29
    540 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 3:27 pm
    It`s nice to see something that skews the internet`s opinion of police in the other direction.
    Pity such things are less exciting than confrontation, which would be why the general opinion is so low in the first place.
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    Scott_2150 Male 18-29
    801 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 4:37 pm
    And the system works?


    ....That can`t be right? Can it?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 23, 2011 at 6:59 pm
    This makes me crazy. How is it English police know the law yet American police do not?

    It wasn`t always like this - people have been arrested in England for taking photos in public, on public property. It became a political issue and has largely been sorted out.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 23, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    British Police are a lot nicer because they don`t have a gun on their hip. If you go into a situation were you`re outnumbered you better be nice or you`re gonna get hurt.

    Actually, it`s because they`re trained that way as it`s usually the most effective approach.

    It also helps a lot that it`s very unlikely that anyone they deal with is armed. If you frequently go into situations where the other person might shoot you, you`d better go in hard all the time or sooner or later you`re going to get killed.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
    718 posts
    July 23, 2011 at 8:43 pm
    I can tell you one thing, the cops in the UK look to be ALOT nicer then the non-nice individuals we got over here in America. you know, stop you and tell you they should have killed you when they find out you was carrying a gun (legally)
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
    599 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 2:14 am
    Oh I see, so the security guards are concerned about terrorists. Must protect those staff and buildings.

    For crying out loud a terrorist is not going to advertise photographing. They are going to do it out of sight with stealth. Use some freaking sense in your plea dumb ass security rent a cop.
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    thenedman Male 18-29
    294 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 4:02 am
    British police are really nice, as long as you are nice to them. There just needs to be mutual respect.
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    Oscola Male 18-29
    349 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 4:26 am
    Good on the bobbies.
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    jwhalerfan Male 30-39
    220 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 5:06 am
    LOL Stupid 3rd world countries are funny.
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    thecurt Male 18-29
    411 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 5:32 am
    It`s interesting to see how normal people interact with each other without yelling, or getting beaten by the police.
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    andybme Male 50-59
    296 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 8:38 am
    There might not be anything wrong with what you`re doing but that sweater has to go.
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    Znurris Male 18-29
    11 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 11:43 am
    @jwhalerfan
    3rd world countries? i hope you are being sarcastic mate
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    Those security guards were just making up such rubbish. "Terrorism act", Ha no! It`s a double standard that Public can`t record Private but Private can record Publuc. By that I mean they can film us with their CCTV. I read a statistic that Londoners are caught on CCTV 300 times a day, even while doing something simple like going to Troc or Forbidden Planet. I`d rather have that than being beaten, tased, handcuffed, yelled at and possibly being shot at.

    Even still there are the odd times when police brutality still occurs, like at the G8 summit. Generally the police are nothing like the ones in America though.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12387 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    British police are really nice, as long as you are nice to them. There just needs to be mutual respect.

    True. I`ve been stopped by the police numerous times. I used to go for walks in the middle of the night and a young man dressed in black wandering around a housing estate at 2 in the morning looks a bit suspicious to police cruising around to prevent crime, especially when he`s carrying a large bag. So they politely asked me what I was doing and I politely told them. No problem.

    A copper once caught me breaking into a flat. I was subletting it at the time, so I had no proof I lived there. I`d left my keys at work and was trying to get in doing minimal damage. It was taking some time to take out a pane of glass and I realised someone was behind me. Turned round and there was a copper wanting to know what was going on. Fair enough. He was polite, I was polite, there wasn`t any hassle.
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    SilverThread Male 30-39
    3431 posts
    July 24, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    The video would be more interesting if the photographers had the stones to do it in NORTH KOREA instead of essentially sticking their finger in the face of the security guard and shouting "I`m not touching you".
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    jamesrs Male 18-29
    85 posts
    July 28, 2011 at 10:11 am
    photographers are pretencious mean persons anyway
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    Kimrn89 Male 18-29
    67 posts
    August 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    I love the 11:50 to 13:00 =)
    Makes me feel there is humanity left in our humble planet.

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