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87 Responses to PETA`s Clever Anti-Canadian Seal Killing Ad [Pic]

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    eugenius Male 30-39
    1620 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 10:28 am
    Link: PETA`s Clever Anti-Canadian Seal Killing Ad - Heh, that`s actually kinda clever.
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    krisley Male 18-29
    525 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Yes. Seal clubbing sucks. Peta sucks. Next
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    asiina Female 18-29
    167 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 10:36 am
    No it`s not
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    patchouly Male 40-49
    4746 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Who is Joel Gibb?
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2011 at 10:46 am
    heh, that`s actually kinda stupid
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    madest Male 40-49
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    July 30, 2011 at 10:51 am
    Yes. Seal clubbing sucks. Peta sucks. Next
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    So you agree with PETA but dislike them because you think that makes you cool? Next
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    Tubby12370 Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2011 at 10:56 am
    Heh, that`s actually kinda lame.

    Still don`t like PETA though.
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    JABL Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2011 at 11:02 am
    Hi guys new to IAB, can anyone tell me how to upload pictures to the site please? Thanks in advance
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    EgalM Male 30-39
    1707 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 11:07 am
    I hate Peta, wtf do they expect the people up there to eat. Inuit have been doing this for a long time, it supplies clothes and food. Peta would rather them freeze and starve in order to let a few cute things live.

    Growing vegetables in a arctic dessert would as difficult as any dessert. You eat what little there is around you in order to survive.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
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    July 30, 2011 at 11:18 am
    Ya gotta club them or you`ll damage the skin. Polar bears and Arctic foxes love the remains. And they are endangered. There is your ethical treatment. Fruitcakes!?
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    krisley Male 18-29
    525 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 11:45 am
    I agree with a few snippets of what FOX says too, but I still don`t consider them a news organization because the majority of what they report is completely insane. Same goes for PETA.
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    carmium Female 50-59
    6381 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    @EgalM
    These aren`t Inuit clubbing seals, you non-watcher of the news. They`re mostly Newfies, and seal clubbing has been a tradition for the frozen months when fishing isn`t practical. Now that the cod fishery has collapsed, It`s one of the few "harvests" they can still take from nature.
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    The_Garuness Male 18-29
    931 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    Joke from unknown source:
    How many members of PETA does it take to screw in a lightbulb? None, because peta can`t change anything.
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    Pooptart19 Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    Well we`ll have to club SOMETHING. If not seals, then I say we club PETA members instead. Sound good?
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    Neagle Male 30-39
    1407 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    PETA, healthy animals go in but, never make out alive from the freezers. The small amount of good PETA does is shadowed by the organizations horrific misdeeds.
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    IshiiDaFishy Male 18-29
    773 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    @EgalM

    To be honest, when we needa supply of clothes and food, we just run to the Northern Store..

    Oh whats that? I didn`t mean to come off as a PETA supporter, drat that. We just hunts seals cuz we hunt seals..its boring here man, it`s all for fun..meat and sealskin is just a bonus.
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    zlatan Male 18-29
    292 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    there`s a peta building near my house, and my friend thought it would be funny to leave a dead squirrel on their doorstep. that did not work out well
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
    934 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Why are we supposed to care again?
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    krisbrown Male 30-39
    161 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    probs the fault of the u.s.a. somehow
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    erikthevikin Male 30-39
    757 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    300 years of Seal harvest hasent made a dent in the population. PETA should stay out of other peoples buisness.
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    July 30, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    300 years of Seal harvest hasent made a dent in the population. PETA should stay out of other peoples buisness.

    Thousands of years of murder hasn`t made a dent in the human population either, so let`s legalize that too. Or maybe you could just STFU.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    July 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    Good point freddy
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
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    July 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    I can understand if they`re going to eat the seals, but then there`s no reason to club them. And I don`t really hold it against the people who do it, it`s just another form of hunting to them. But it`s still wrong to kill something in such an inhumane way, especially if it`s just for a stupid coat.
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    Neagle, would you really prefer your pet that you can`t take care of anymore end up living in a loud tiny cage in a basement somewhere for several years until it dies from the stress? PETA is the only organization to agree that there`s a serious problem with pet overpopulation and they`re the ones I`d trust most to do something about it. If I`m going to have a pet euthanized, I sure as heck want PETA to do it.
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    Itsnotover Male 18-29
    56 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 2:09 pm
    canada needs to hunt seals to keep the population down if we didnt there would be way to many and all the other animalas would suffer
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    PringleMan Female 13-17
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    July 30, 2011 at 2:20 pm

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    kissmybim Male 40-49
    439 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 2:53 pm
    you know how canada got its name? three guys exploring the land were so awstruck by its beauty they couldnt decide on a name for it. one guy had an idea he said `lets just say a bunch of letters, and whatever it spells is what we will name the land. i`ll go first! C. eh?`....
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    Nietzscheese Male 18-29
    17 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 3:05 pm
    I feel the need to clear up 2 misconceptions about the Canadian seal hunt.

    1) Hunting of baby seals has been banned in Canada since 1987
    2) "Clubbing" a seal doesn`t mean taking a stick and beating it to death. Seals are killed using a hakapik, which looks like a hammer on a long pole. The seal is struck once in the head, killing it. The killing practices have been reviewed by several organizations including the Canadian Veterinary Medical Association and The Royal Commission on Seals and the Sealing Industry in Canada, which have found that seal slaughtering practices are as humane or more humane than the practices used in slaughter houses.

    That being said, I can still understand why some people oppose it. My only problem is when people oppose things for reasons that aren`t true.
  29. Profile photo of phoenixvirus
    phoenixvirus Female 18-29
    30 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 3:23 pm
    why is peta so very very fond of misinformation? this time they even said it, on a a FEW irresponsible people abuse or inhumanely kill seals. they just want attention like those screaming, spoiled brats you find in every supermarket.

    and @ SarahofBorg, no, I wouldn`t trust peta to end the life of a half-dead fly, let alone one of my beloved pets; the only surefire humane way to euthanize an animal is with a shot administered by a veterinarian, and no sane vet will have anything to do with uninformed radicals that refuse to educate themselves about basic animal welfare. peta could care less about pet overpopulation (like vets and animal welfare groups do); they just care about getting at your and my wallets via shock tactics. I believe Neagle was referring to the fact that peta has the disgusting reputation of euthanizing nearly every animal surrendered to it without even trying to find homes for the majority of them.
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    TKD_Master Male 18-29
    4794 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 4:44 pm
    "canada needs to hunt seals to keep the population down if we didnt there would be way to many and all the other animalas would suffer"

    I need to hunt humans to keep the population down. If I don`t then there will be way too many and literally every fu*king thing on this planet will suffer.
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    Anger Male 18-29
    218 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 5:18 pm
    TKD_Master so your in the army?
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    bacon_pie Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2011 at 5:30 pm

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    erikthevikin Male 30-39
    757 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    Thanks for driving my point home freddyferret
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    Sachi001 Male 30-39
    599 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 5:41 pm
    @TKD_Master
    Excellent!
  35. Profile photo of daroofa
    daroofa Male 40-49
    132 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 6:18 pm
    So this baby seal walks into a club...
  36. Profile photo of Gafnaz
    Gafnaz Male 30-39
    138 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    sick and stupid. That and killing dolphins and whales... why the F do we still do this shyt?
  37. Profile photo of Alastair969
    Alastair969 Male 18-29
    6 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 7:38 pm
    Sooo... you are telling me Peta is showing one person in that photo and that makes all of Canada Seal clubbers? I am sorry but that is dumb "lets go to Canada and find the people who kill animals (like almost everyone else) Oh and they just CAN`T walk down Wall-mart or Target to get food, they can`t really pick out there food I say Personally "Keep it to yourself"
  38. Profile photo of Thdot
    Thdot Male 30-39
    658 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 8:15 pm
    What is the difference between bird watching and seal clubbing?

    Bird watching is no fun.
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    walterppj Male 30-39
    125 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    I am getting tired of groups/individuals getting upset - not because animals get killed... But because cute animals get killed.

    Fish get hauled out of the water by the thousands, nobody makes a sad poster about that.

    Cows are slaughtered at a rate that is so fast, it is difficult to comprehend. No posters.

    Whales and elephants are endangered. I understand people advocating for their protection. But seals? Massive populations and a heavily regulated (strict government oversight) hunting industry. I`m all for it.

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    gothmo Female 18-29
    1324 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    @walterppj
    it`s more the idea they`re clubbing the animals, not killing them as quickly as they can to reduce the suffering (which is what good hunters do).

    and @alastair
    that`s how PETA works >> talk about sweeping generalities. you should see the fliers they hand out to school children...
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 9:35 pm
    If I`m going to have a pet euthanized, I sure as heck want PETA to do it.
    So, you want someone with absolutely no training to throw your living pet into a giant freezer and let it freeze to death? Because that`s what PETA does.

    PETA are nothing but a bunch of foaming at the mouth extremists. If you do enjoy pets, I hope you don`t support PETA, because one of their goals is to eliminate human pet ownership entirely. Not just to end pet cruelty, but to end actually owning pets at all. PETA believes humans should not interact with other animals at all, something that is both unnatural, seeing as how humans are predators, and entirely irresponsible, since sensible hunting and conservation is part of keeping animal populations at healthy levels.

    Can things be improved? Absolutely. There a lot of good organizations working to make things better for both animals and people in our shared world. PETA isn`t one of them.
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    sutra46 Female 40-49
    2550 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 10:04 pm
    They club the baby seal to dear to protect the fur.
    Baby seals just lay there.
    There is noreason this industry should go on, now they have northface hoodies to keep warm.
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    hotchrisb Male 18-29
    9 posts
    July 30, 2011 at 10:19 pm
    The Seal Cub Clubbing Club
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 30, 2011 at 10:56 pm

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    MrOrange Male 30-39
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    July 31, 2011 at 12:51 am
    @Yaezakura, as Much as i love dogs, and can`t see me ever not having one around, when i look around me and see how pooty people treat their pets, i agree with peta, i go even further then that which makes me really extreme i don`t think every tom dick and harry should have kids either, show me you`re responsible and caring, then yess. otherwise stop wasting lives.

    and humans are biologically speaking not predators, far from it..
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
    1244 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 1:27 am
    MrOrange, you are certainly wrong on the point regarding humans being predators. Humans hunt and kill to sustain themselves, that makes us predators.
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    razordragon Male 18-29
    336 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 1:41 am
    Seals are drating bastards, you stupid southerners have obviously never seen one outside of captivity. If we don`t club them, they`ll rape our women and make horrible sealman hybrids. Then they`ll take over the world. Do the right thing.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
    1677 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 5:42 am
    Lots of people rely on Seal hunting to support themselves. They don`t do it for fun, the animals aren`t endangered, there are rules in place to make sure the Seal population stays at healthy levels, and its done humanely. Its really not much different to fishing.
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    robosnitz Male 40-49
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    July 31, 2011 at 6:03 am
    Just makes me wanna eat more heep seals.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
    685 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 7:43 am
    humans are predators, but we are omnivorous predators, not strictly carnivores. omnomnomnomnomnivores.
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    Deepeyes Male 18-29
    151 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 8:03 am
    That guys arms are unusually long....
  52. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 31, 2011 at 8:57 am
    So PETA are using disinformation to campaign about something that`s either already illegal or nothing like PETA claim it is, when PETA does much worse to animals themselves...and it fools enough people to keep the money rolling into PETA`s coffers so they can continue to live comfortably without having to work and they can continue killing animals on a wholesale basis.

    In other words, the same thing that happens all the time because it`s PETA`s business model and it works for them.

    People do realise that one of the main things PETA does is kill animals, right? It`s one of the main purposes of PETA.
  53. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 8:58 am
    @spanerbulb. look at my post, look closer. i said _biologically_ speaking we are not predators. lets go back to your post. suprise, the guy that called me wrong is wrong. look at a lion, a wolf, or any predator. look closely. yeah, they walk on their toes, oh drat. the`re really fast too. and they got claws and teeth and nasty poo to kill you with, before you make the rookie mistake of "i have fangs too". look in the mirror, look at a gorrila. see those fangs? it`s a vegetarian. see that poo? thats from a predator. it goes through bowels that are roughly 1 time it`s body lenght, look at that other pile of poo? thats a herbivores dung, it goes through roughly 3 to 4 times it`s body lenght of pootube. stick your finger up your ass, further, hmm actualy just google it. Humans don`t have the capacity to hunt,kill or digest prey animals without the use of tools, what does that make us? right. i`m not wrong. look at me, i`m smiling.
  54. Profile photo of Blatto
    Blatto Male 18-29
    358 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 9:18 am
    drat PETA
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
    2067 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 9:35 am
    I don`t get it. What is so clever about it?
  56. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 9:55 am
    MrOrange:

    You`re not helping your case by confusing "carnivore" and "predator" and by making incorrect statements about digestive systems (humans do not have a digestive system anywhere near as long or complex as a herbivore of our size).

    Biologically speaking with regards to diet, humans are omnivores.

    With regards to whether we are biologically predator or prey, I`d say that we`re both. That`s more a matter of opinion, though.
  57. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 10:38 am
    @Angilion

    Confusing predators and carnivors? haven`t met or heard of a predator that hunts grass?
    as for the incorrect statement about digestive tracts. please sir, tell me where i errord. pointing out that some other herbivores have larger tracts then we have would allow me to use the argument that since the avarage male lenght in the netherlands is 1.85(cm) i am a child becuase i`m 1.75 (cm) As for your opinion i aplaud you for having one, but i`m trying to base mine on arguments, and i`m sticking to mine unless you can persuade me.

    Btw, i`m suprised noone jumped me for my statement about children? ya`ll agree with me on that?
  58. Profile photo of Dead-Kittens
    Dead-Kittens Male 30-39
    1038 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 11:22 am
    Complete ignorance on Peta`s part. Usually they do some good but this is flat out uninformed under educated bullpoo. 1- if your in the frozen tundra (where about .005 pct of Canadian people live) then the seal is everything..light, heat, fat, and clothing. 2- it has nothing to do with Canadians but entirely to do with the native population of the areas who live outside the jurisdiction of Canadian politics and laws. they may be here...but they arent Canadians, theyre natives. That is NOT intended racially but by political definition as canada does not believe in equality..but diversity.
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    supersai20 Male 13-17
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    July 31, 2011 at 12:07 pm

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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    July 31, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    and whats this about thats so entertaining?
  61. Profile photo of Yaezakura
    Yaezakura Female 18-29
    385 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 3:24 pm
    MrOrange, there is a difference between a predator and a carnivore. Vultures are carnivores--they are not predators. They eat only meat, but they do not hunt it. And just because one is a predator doesn`t mean one solely consumes meat. Many species are omnivores, consuming both meat and plants, unable to meet their nutritional needs on one food source alone.

    Humans are omnivores. We do eat plants, but are terrible at digesting them. Primate species who do eat vegetarian diets spend ALL DAY finding and eating food, because it is terribly inefficient. Compare this to pure carnivores, who eat maybe once a day on average, and can often go days without food with no ill effects.

    Humans are in the middle. We need some of the nutritional benefits of plants with the energy and protein of meat. While you can cobble together a vegetarian diet that works, that doesn`t make it natural for us. Humans are part of the food chain. We eat other animals. That is simply nature.
  62. Profile photo of nny156
    nny156 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 3:36 pm
    PETA kills more animals then any animal testing or hunting ever has had time to. drat PETA.
  63. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    As for your opinion i aplaud you for having one, but i`m trying to base mine on arguments, and i`m sticking to mine unless you can persuade me.

    I base my opinion on evidence, which I explain. I acknowledge that it isn`t possible to objectively and unequivocally define humans as "prey" or "predator", so I state that it`s a matter of opinion.

    You base your opinion on fallacies. You don`t acknowledge that it is an opinion or that there are any areas where the slackness of definition in normal use of language makes different classifications possible.

    Add to that the fact that you don`t know what the relevant terms mean and it`s clearly ridiculous for you to be criticising me.

    If you have a counter-argument for anything I wrote, feel free to post it. I`ll summarise:

    Humans are physiologically adapted to being omnivores.

    Humans have characteristics of both predators and prey.
  64. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    To clarify:

    The point in question was whether humans are naturally predator or prey. Obviously humans made themselves predators through technology.
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    wendell Male 30-39
    85 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 7:03 pm
    A baby seal walks into a bar, bartender says ` what`ll ya have" baby seal says " anything but a Canadian Club" (whiskey)
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    Nintenutts Male 13-17
    91 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    Don`t club seals... Or you`ll look like this douche
  67. Profile photo of greenbasterd
    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    July 31, 2011 at 8:52 pm
    im pretty sure we were predators before cellphones. now if by technology yo mean tools and sharp stuff, now i`ve never met a caveman but im sure they had a taste for meat. and clubbing things with a heavy stick does work.. take baby seals for example
  68. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    July 31, 2011 at 11:45 pm
    @Yaezakura carnivors can be divided into scavangers and predators. so yess not all carnivores are predators but all predators are carnivores. (i suppose that if a herbivore completely consumed a plant that could be called predation, but in common use of the terms....)
  69. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 12:03 am
    @Angilion

    it`s nice that you base your opinion on evidence, why not share that with me? all you did was use a non argument, after that you decribe my arguments as fallecies, without adressing them. question my understanding of the words and arguments i use but don`t point out the error i made, even after i asked for it. well played Sir!

    to clarify your clarification.
    i pointed out that without technology humans couldn`t be predators (or even carnivores but that is my opinion). i think it`s roughly the first point i made that _biologically_ speaking humans are not predators.

    great minds think alike eh? .... .)
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    Paulacookie Female 13-17
    57 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 12:45 am
    I hate PETA.
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    ImWinning Male 13-17
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    August 1, 2011 at 4:35 am
    Seals... number 1 cause of the northern hemisphere`s salmon shortage. GTFO!
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    kodkilla Male 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 4:44 am
    MrOrange, "humans are biologically speaking not predators, far from it..."

    Yep, humans have NEVER killed one another without a weapon... Wait... Well, we never killed an an..i...mal... pooe... Oh well, never mind ;)

    As for the picture, it always makes me laugh see these "experts on animals" fail to realize even the most simplest of things.
  73. Profile photo of apedrana
    apedrana Male 18-29
    144 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 4:57 am
    mr.orange, what the drat are you talking about?
    we are not meant to be predators??? i dont think that`s how evolution works. We are predators today because we evolved into predators, our technology is part of that evolution. we worked out long time ago, its much simpler to club a seal to feed the family, then to forage for food, hence become the dominant species in all environments! If there is a term that sums up the human race, it would be Opportunist.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 6:05 am
    All the PETA haters don`t remember the world prior to PETA. Humans regularly abused animals. Dog and rooster fighting were legal. Farmers abused livestock, fur coats were status symbols amongst suburban housewives. Kids did the meanest things to pets and there were no repercussions. Now 30years later there`s a budding new law field, animal rights. I applaud PETA. I might not agree with 100% of the things they do but they made the world a better place.
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    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 8:20 am
    @Kodkilla being a killer or a murderer does not make you a predator in terms of diet, i`m sure somewhere in this world someone choked on a hamburger, are you telling me that hamburger is a predator?
  76. Profile photo of MrOrange
    MrOrange Male 30-39
    2398 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 8:33 am
    @apedrana
    I didn`t say we are not ment to be predators, i said that biologically we are not. as for evolution, it doesn`t work. it help us understand life on earth. and no we didn`t evolve into predators because we do not have the physical capabilities or appearance of one. see the differnce? we are oppertunist yes, and that explains our use of tools and adaptive skills. it does not make us natural predators. just very clever... (mind you there are some numbnuts out there)
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    SaintsFan Male 30-39
    256 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 9:40 am
    Seal clubbing is a disgusting action. There is no way to justify the pain inflicted upon these animals. End of story.
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    Alpha1971 Male 30-39
    364 posts
    August 1, 2011 at 11:15 am
    This goes to show how people in this country have too much time and money on their hands.

    Seal hunting is performed mostly by aboriginal people. and simply put this is one of the few ways they have of putting food on their plates and money in their pockets.

    It sickens me that people would rather have people starve than hurt an animal.
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    phoenixvirus Female 18-29
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    August 1, 2011 at 3:02 pm
    @madest The Animal Welfare Act predates peta by over a decade and was inspired by a single article about dog abuse; clearly Americans could be inspired to care for animals long before someone started making sleazy ads like this one. I can`t say much about animal fighting or some of the other things that might have been true then, but coming from a background in the beef industry I can tell you that the farmers that abuse livestock are morons and sick individuals that run themselves out of business and are loathed the most by the majority of ranchers who would never allow their animals to be abused in any way. peta has, mostly accidentally, done some good by exposing some bad producers but on the whole they don`t care about animals, just about getting money and a perverse form of fame from exploiting people`s ignorance and sympathies. Animal welfare has made the world a better place for animals, not animal rights.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    @phoenixvirus, The Animal welfare act of 1966 didn`t protect the monkey`s in the Silver Spring monkey case of 1981. The people who did that were the founders of PETA. Their activism forced an entire generation of people to re-evaluate their relationship with animals.
    PETA is loud and obnoxious but big change demands it.

    BTW: Farmers still abuse animals so do circus`s.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 5:15 pm
    it`s nice that you base your opinion on evidence, why not share that with me? all you did was use a non argument, after that you decribe my arguments as fallecies, without adressing them. question my understanding of the words and arguments i use but don`t point out the error i made, even after i asked for it. well played Sir!

    None of the above is true. Simple as that.

    I pointed out one of your errors even before you asked for it (length and complexity of human digestive system in comparison with that of herbivores). Which, by the way, is not at all the same thing as minor variations in height within a species. Yaezakura also addressed the point a couple of posts later.

    The second one I didn`t think necessary to point out since it`s a simple matter of definitions, but in any case Yaezakura explained it very clearly a couple of posts later (the difference in meaning between "carnivore" and "predator").
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    August 1, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    The third one is a matter of opinion because it depends on definitions and isn`t clear. Although it is clear that humans have characteristics of both predators and of prey. Sure, humans need tools to hunt efficiently, but tool use is part of what humans are.
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
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    August 2, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    Screw PETA. Another example of that organization shooting off at the mouth without any facts.

    Baby seals are not clubbed, it`s illegal. That club by the way, is like a double-tap. The seals are shot dead, and then are clubbed to make sure, so as not to leave a living, severely wounded animal in pain.

    The increased populations of seals in and around Newfoundland are causing problems with the already devastated Cod populations.

    This is the livelihood for many people who would starve without the hunt. The seal populations are on the rise, and the hunt is sustainable.

    You never seem to see PETA protesting about the mass slaughter of fish, or the snow crab trade. How about the poisoning of rats? That poo doesn`t work fast at all. Hypocrites and morons.
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    Yaezakura Female 18-29
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    August 2, 2011 at 2:56 pm
    PETA is loud and obnoxious but big change demands it.
    I suppose change also demands funding terrorists and killing the vast majority of the animals that come into your care without even trying to find homes or real help for them? Because that`s what PETA does. They are not just loud, or obnoxious. They are dangerous and detrimental to their own supposed cause.

    As I said in an earlier post, there are a lot of wonderful organizations out there working to ensure animals are treated well. PETA is not one of them.
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    photomstr Male 50-59
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    August 2, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    I don`t care how ya kill my food as long as ya cook it . . . boiled lobsters anyone? Oh, I wear fur and eat meat, get used to it.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    August 3, 2011 at 8:04 am
    I suppose change also demands funding terrorists and killing the vast majority of the animals that come into your care without even trying to find homes or real help for them? Because that`s what PETA does.
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    PETA is not a terrorist organization nor does it fund terrorism. Using the word "terrorism" for what PETA does insults anyone who has been the victim of terrorism.
    PETA is not the ASPCA. Yes they put dogs to sleep but so does your local pound. It sounds horrible on it`s face but what dog owner hasn`t been faced with the same prospect? Do the people who put down their own dog fall into your category of "dangerous and detrimental"? Perhaps understanding the `why`s` would change your opinion of PETA. You sound like an animal lover. PETA is too.
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    trickroom Male 18-29
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    August 3, 2011 at 7:05 pm
    what kalimata says is true, the seal hunt is allowed because of the threat they pose to the fish (cod i guess) that people rely on. if it weren`t for the damage the seal population could impose on the cod, the seal hunt would probably never happen.

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