Just Some Scientific Christian Reading [Pic]

Submitted by: orange_panty 5 years ago Science

Just in case you"re wondering what they"re teaching kids at private Christian schools. Scary, huh?
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Female 1
I was in my teens when they brought home the first moon rocks. I remember vividly the scientists telling interviewers that the rocks were dated at just about 4 billion years old. Creationism is a pseudoscience.
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Male 286
I went to private catholic school for 12 years and never saw anything like this. We learned actual scientific facts from well educated teachers. Yes they threw in a few "do unto others" sayings while we learned, but I was more than adequately prepared for college.
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Male 1,265
Perverse.
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Male 79
drat the Bible, drat all religions. Science is the only way that our civilization will progress. When we still got people MURDERING each other over a stupid belief system (ones that include an invisible man in the sky), nothing will get accomplished.
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Male 23
@JDplaysFF and @Angilion

This was to prove what Angilion was saying. The verses are actually in the bible for the sake of the people who want proof. Look it up.
Sorry for boring you while at I-Am_Bored.com
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Male 27
@number1man did you actually read it? it says the moon and the earth were created 6000-10000 years ago. both of them. not just one. Not that i believe it personally but damn dude learn to read.
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Female 13
I had a book just like this at private Christian school O.o
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Male 240
lol at the bottom: God created earth on the third day and the moon on the fourth day.

So why the 4 thousand year age difference?
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Male 1,646
LAWLZ
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Male 64
If you have to lie to defend your position, your position may be indefensible.
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Female 157
People have taught their kids worse.
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Male 37,890

angilion - [quote]"Scientists are totally BSing people and " [/quote]

well, when it comes to global warming.....yes

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Male 12,365
[quote]Propaganda on both sides, and both sides have just as many people BSing people into thinking what they want. Don`t care if you believe me or not, it`s just how some jerks work.[/quote]

Yeah, you got me. Scientists are totally BSing people and getting all their results from bad translations and misinterpretations of an early bronze age book. All those experiments and things are just fakes, even the ones you can do yourself. Don`t ask how that works, it`s all part of the conspiracy.

Short version: You`re talking bollocks.
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Male 1,737
Propaganda on both sides, and both sides have just as many people BSing people into thinking what they want. Don`t care if you believe me or not, it`s just how some jerks work.
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Male 625
@learning2liv - Holy cow, he`s all powerful and omnipotent but he doesn`t know how to make an interesting read?! Thanks for throwing out that snoozefest!
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Male 6,227
Contemptible. Being religious doesn`t give anyone a free pass on willful ignorance.
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Male 319
This crap always makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
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Male 110
The bible doesn`t anything of the sort
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Male 542
Truly sad, coming from a deist..
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Male 144
the moon is THAT old?????
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Male 4,902
wow
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Male 14
@davymid

I agree but I don`t think it goes the other way ;D
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Male 299
@Kiwigirl2:

ONLY if it is written down. If you see it, then it isn`t true. But as long as you have read it from a very specific book which has been translated and copied many, many, many times over, then it is true.
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Male 11,740
Stupidity, spreading like wildfire since Christianity became popular.
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Male 718
All you Sinners are going straight to HELLLLL!!!!! and ima piss on ya from heaven! take that jew ima piss on ya! (if anyone is too stupid to catch what this is from try listening to david cross talk about the rapture)
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Male 12,138
[quote]Have religious discussions on I-A-B ever changed anyone`s mind one way or the other?[/quote]
I would say yes. I find that I`m a more staunch atheist after many years of religious discussions on I-A-B.
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Male 599
ROFL. Stranger than fiction.
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Female 1,048
OMG - you can justify anything if its written down??!!
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Male 12,365
[quote]@ Angilion hope this helps[/quote]

Yeah, sure it does. I`d never ever read those verses and I was just making it all up as I went along.

No, wait, that`s not right. I`ve read several different English translations and a couple of analyses of the original Greek. Because I like to know what I`m talking about rather than just accepting what someone tells me is the traditional interpretation.
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Male 53
@jdee89 -- To be fair, you are probably really tired from all the gay sex. :)
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Male 71
I`m so tired of anti-gay people. Not even angry tired. Just exhausted tired. You have your opinions. Other people have theirs. This won`t change. You really think I`ll stop being gay cause of a comment thread online? Because I don`t think you`ll stop being anti-gay.

I`m tired. Is no one else tired? So. Tired.
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Male 8,302
> FreedomFrie
> I can`t believe this topic has gone from the moon to homosexuals

It wouldn`t be IAB if it didn`t! :-)
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Male 37,890

Meanwhile, back on the Moon.... did you guys see the video of theUFOs on the Moon

I`m sure they are angels and God sent them, right.

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Male 8,302
Having worked in a commercial printery attached to a Christian school for over 20 years, I can fairly confidently state that this appears TO ME* to be one of the PACE (Packets of Accelerated Christian Education) books used in the ACE system (from the font, design, etc), which our school used as well even though it is an American curriculum.

I hated them from the very beginning. The example shown here is not exceptional, it is about the norm for the whole curriculum.

How do you teach kids to count? Like this:
"one plus one equals two, God loves you, one plus two equals three, God loves you and me"... etc

The entire program is crap which turns out idiots who aren`t up to Grade 6 standard by the time they leave College level.

(*For legal reasons, I`m not stating it definitely)
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Male 23
@ Angilion hope this helps

From the (HCSB) New Testament Romans Chap1 verses 24-31. some cut for space...
24 Therefore God delivered them over in the cravings of their hearts to sexual impurity, so that their bodies were degraded among themselves. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served something created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever.Amen.From Idolatry to Depravity 26 This is why God delivered them over to degrading passions. For even their females exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 The males in the same way also left natural relations with females and were inflamed in their lust for one another. Males committed shameless acts with males and received in their own persons the appropriate penalty of their error. 32 Although they know full well God’s just sentence —that those who practice such things deserve to die —they not only do them, but even applaud ot
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Male 243
I can`t believe this topic has gone from the moon to homosexuals - i-a-b you never disappoint
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Male 12,365
[quote]Isn`t there also a problem with the way these "literalists" so to speak are misinterpreting the word "abomination"?[/quote]

Yes, because that word isn`t there at all. It`s a mistranslation as well as a misinterpretation. The word that is there is "to`ebah", which refers to uncleanliness in a religious sense. There isn`t a word in English with the same meaning and Christians don`t really do the whole ritual purification thing any more.

There are various degrees of ritual uncleanliness, which further complicates the translation.

There`s evidence that at least some of the earliest translators into English realised that this was a problem and made notes about it.

They were ignored, of course. Why care about the truth when you can just put in whatever best suits your agenda and claim ultimate authority for it?
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Male 10,845
@Angilion

Isn`t there also a problem with the way these "literalists" so to speak are misinterpreting the word "abomination"?
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Male 12,365
[quote]There are several versus in the new testament that speak out against homosexuality.[/quote]

Is it time for me to repeat my explanation of why this statement is wrong? Again. I should just save it as a text file so I can copy and paste it over and over again.

There is one, just one, verse in the NT that can be validly interpreted as speaking against homosexuality. Incidentally, it`s also the only one in either testament that mentions homosexuality between women. Since it is talking about people who would not normally have homosexual sex having homosexual sex in religious rites, it`s also a valid interpretation to consider it irrelevant nowadays.

The other two NT verses are relying on a far-fetched interpretation of `malakoi` and a completely unsubstantiated interpretation of `arsenokoitai`.

They`re all from Paul and even the bible itself warns about the difficulty of interpreting Paul`s writings.
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Male 10,845
[quote]okay, maybe that`s a bit unrealistic.[/quote]

So they should, yet you don`t >actually< expect them to?
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Male 2,143
No,religious morons can`t be taught.
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Male 12,365
[quote]And to people who call us crazy, scientist are currently selling a theory of "dark energy" and "dark matter." We can`t see it or detect it, but we know it`s there. You just have to look at science through the same goggles.[/quote]

There are huge differences.

We can detect dark matter. So you`re just plain wrong about that. The odd thing about it is that it doesn`t interact with the electromagnetic force (hence "dark"), but it does interact with gravity and is detected in that way.

Dark energy is outside my knowledge, but I`m fairly confident that there`s more evidence for it than someone saying so because their ignorance led them to ludicrously misinterpret a tiny subset of the ancestors of one small group of people, written in the early bronze age after an unknown amount of oral repetition.

So no, it`s not at all similar.
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Male 1,598
Have religious discussions on I-A-B ever changed anyone`s mind one way or the other?
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Male 37,890

@ Cajun - yes. Yes I do.

okay, maybe that`s a bit unrealistic.
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Male 36,512
Sources please!
(for the picture, not the commentors, eh?)
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Male 10,845
@Gerry

Be that as it may do you honestly expect "cherry-picking" Christians to stop calling themselves Christians overnight simply because they cherry-pick?
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Male 490
i was at a catholic school for 12 years and i never came across this. but then again i just drew pictures on all of my religion books.
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Male 25,416
k then...
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Male 266
I`m an atheist. Used to be catholic, and to be fair never got taught creationism as science. I was never told of the barbarities the church did though.
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Female 2
It`s not a schoolbook per se... It`s called a PACE. It resembles a magazine, but it`s part of a bigger curriculum.

I recognize the text and that leafy border... Brings back so many awful memories. ><
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Male 62
derp a herp
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Male 37,890

BigDaddyJeff - okay, so Jesus cancells out the old testemant. So why bother having it there? All the preachers on tv seem to take it seriously.

I don`t mean to come down on you. I "pick and choose" too.
I picked the bible apart
and chose to be an athiest
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Male 368
For Gerry and almightybob

There are several versus in the new testament that speak out against homosexuality. The first that comes to mind is Rom. 1:26-27

but this simply means that homosexuality is a sin like my lusting for women that are not my wife is a sin. It does not mean that you can not be saved. I sin every day. I also confess these sins to God and ask for His forgiveness.
I hope that eventually I will come to give up these sins but if I do not I am still saved because I confess Jesus as my Lord and Savior and believe that He was the son of God and He died for my sins.

I do not condemn a sinner no matter what his sins are. The thief on the cross next to Jesus was told by Jesus that He would see him that very day in paradise.

The murder that truly repents and accepts Christ will be in heaven with Jesus at the end.
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Male 551
@CrakrJak
You just proved how monumentally ignorant people are.
Science is a self-proving, self-correcting aspect of the
mind, science is "wrong" when a new theory or law becomes
even better at explaining an event, which happens faster
and faster as technology helps us

We though the atom was the minimum possible "thing" to exist,
but when technology was better we could "see" that it is made
out of other things (Protons, neutrons, electrons)... Is not
that science was "wrong", it just Evolved and was able to have
a better knowledge
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Male 19
Yeah, it`s a good thing that we all got to study that moon soil ourselves and know that it is definitely millions of years old.
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Female 4,349
must be true, it`s in a book.
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Male 551
I don`t bash all christians/catholics of being stupid or retarded,
I`ve meet some very intelligent religious people...

But when it comes to believing in a god without evidence...
That IS retarded, and it`s not bashing... Is pointing out the obvious
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Male 1,243
There should be a law against this type of brainwashing garbage.
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Male 56
Skirjames-It`s not that I don`t believe in dark matter or energy, it`s just that it sounds crazy. It`s a theory that came out after observing that the expansion of the universe isn`t slowing, but actually speeding up. To me, it seems that nobody wants to revise the big bang theory now that there is some evidence to refute it. I believe in the big bang theory, but when the next big theory comes out, I think that science needs to be open to it.
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Male 4,290
Great minds, Gerry :P
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Male 4,290
[quote]For Christians, we have a `new testament`. We Gentiles (any non Jew) follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. We are not held to the `old` authority before jesus came to save us. We are allowed to keep our ways (eating shellfish, shaving, etc) because our belief that Jesus was the son of God, that he lived a perfect sinless life, died a perfect sacrifice who took our sin, past present and future, on himself so we could become perfect in the sight of a loving righteous God and then rose 3 days later to prove His deity.
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Tell me, BigDaddyJeff, do you think practising homosexuality is a sin?
Because that`s exclusively in the Old Testament, in there with the shellfish you`re happy to eat and the hair you`re happy to cut off.
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Male 37,890

BigDaddyJeff - not that old saw about "Jesus changed things". But you`re still cherry picking.

Jesus came so you get to eat lobster and shrimp even though they are called an abomination in the book of Leviticus...right after homosexuality which for some reason, christians say IS still valid.

You believe or you don`t. But you can`t pick and choose what part of "Gods Word" he really meant to say.
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Male 881
[quote]I love how non-Christians bash all Christians equally when it`s really only the small minority of fundamentalist creationists who still base their beliefs on the calculations made by Bishop Usher(sp?), and the rest of the Christian world accepts the theory of evolution as being consistent with the canon of their belief system.[/quote]
You`re right. We should not bash those Christians who have accepted science and don`t believe in the crazy poo. You know, the crazy things like Noah`s Ark, the virgin birth, the resurrection, the walking on water, the water into wine, etc, etc, etc.
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Male 368
I do not see anything scary in that passage.

@Gerry 1of 1 - If you are an orthodox Jew then you should absolutley follow that scripture.

For Christians, we have a `new testament`. We Gentiles (any non Jew) follow the teachings of Jesus Christ. We are not held to the `old` authority before jesus came to save us. We are allowed to keep our ways (eating shellfish, shaving, etc) because our belief that Jesus was the son of God, that he lived a perfect sinless life, died a perfect sacrifice who took our sin, past present and future, on himself so we could become perfect in the sight of a loving righteous God and then rose 3 days later to prove His deity.
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Male 881
Moon dust wasn`t 2 feet deep, so OBVIOUSLY global warming is baseless. A small group of scientists planning for the worst case somehow means that 98% of climate scientists are wrong. CrakrJak loves his misleading facts that prop up his fantasies. Problem is that his actions are very dangerous.
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Male 2,790
well those scientist are wrong
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Male 911
@CrakrJak predictions change all of the time. in the case with the moon, when you`re sending humans to the moon costing billions, and there was a possibility there could be 2 feet of dust which could be hazardous, better safe than sorry.

"So as you can see boys and girls even scientists get it wrong from time to time, The only problem is when they are wrong no one screams `False Teaching!" and wants science banned."

Thats because scientists don`t just make poo up. it`s mathamaticaly based theory that can be tested or observed, and when they`re wrong no one has to scream "False teaching" because scientists unlike fundamental religious. will admit they`re wrong..
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Male 37,890

Are the christians who don`t believe in ID worse than those that do?
At least the creationists are committed and faithful to their religious teachinngs. These modern christians have said "I will believe this part, but not that. This line is true but the one under it is not." When did God clue you in to the Bible 2.5 Condensed version?

Cherry Picking Christians might as well just say "I don`t have a religion, I just make a guess."

If God is the same yesterday, today, and forever as the good? book says, then you have to accept the whole, sour parts as well, not just the parts that taste good.

So, men stop shavig, women be silent, and go sell your youngest daughters. Exodus 21:7



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Male 109
@Cruddup
So you`re trying to say there is no dark matter...?
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Male 559
I like how the "real Christians" that are representative of the larger cross section of christianity who don`t actually believe what the bible says, yet they still consider it the basis for the way to live their life.

How is the bible like an End User License agreement? The people they apply to don`t actually read them, they just scroll to the end and click "I agree".
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Male 17,512
Scientists were sure the moon was millions of years old they expected the dust layer on the moon to be up to 2 feet thick, it`s why the struts on the landing gear were built so high.

Of course they estimated the dust layer being so thick because of the amount of dust the Earth collects every year from space or. Of course Armstrong only stepped into less than an inch of dust on the moon proving that whole estimate wrong.

So as you can see boys and girls even scientists get it wrong from time to time, The only problem is when they are wrong no one screams `False Teaching!" and wants science banned.

Just like when I was a kid and was told under no uncertain terms that the Earth couldn`t possibly handle a population of 6 billion people and that we were headed for another ice age. Now we have over 7 billion people on Earth and are being scare mongered into believing global warming.

Maybe in a few more years they`ll switch back to the ice age theory
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Female 494
Paddy215 I agree completely! Well said.
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Male 90
And also when they looked up they found out that earth was disc shaped and not a sphere, contrary to to modern non Christian idiotic scientific studies! The bible says earth is a a flat disc and the we found out that fact to be true in 1969. Also the Apollo spacecraft was powered by "the grace" of god and not rocket fuel, but that is only known to Christians as our Christian US government thought non-Christian Scientists will find it rather complicated to understand the power of God`s Grace. The non-Christian scientists where given the job of doing useless mathematical calculation and making dumb ass navigational system just to keep them busy and to distract them from the mysterious ways of God! I am serious and not ironic!!
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Male 56
I`m a Christian and I don`t believe that the world is that young. You`re looking at a small cross section of Christianity.

And to people who call us crazy, scientist are currently selling a theory of "dark energy" and "dark matter." We can`t see it or detect it, but we know it`s there. You just have to look at science through the same goggles.
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Male 182
well paddy215 while its nice your teachers didnt shove this bullpoo down your throat it doesnt mean the majority dont as well

i went through all of middle school in catholic schools and herd the dumbest and completely false statements being taught like nixon was framed for watergate and clinton never cheated on his wife and hippys were secret satanists.

yeah drat you buddy
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Male 181
"I love how Christians bash our carbon-dating and other techniques of finding age in materials, but when they find some shred of hope they grasp on tight."

I love how non-Christians bash all Christians equally when it`s really only the small minority of fundamentalist creationists who still base their beliefs on the calculations made by Bishop Usher(sp?), and the rest of the Christian world accepts the theory of evolution as being consistent with the canon of their belief system.

If you want to be a demagogue, at least get your facts straight.
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Male 1,744
i`m all for letting folks have whatever nutty religion they want, but when they start spewing just obviously wrong rhetoric and tout it as "fact," that`s when I have a problem with it.
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Female 1,743
I weep for the poor children who are forced to believe this. :\
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Male 37,890
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Male 4,746
lemmingboy15:
"i went to a private christian school. we were taught both evolution and intelligent design.
not all christian establishments are ass backward."

Did they teach "intelligent design" as fact? If so, your Christian establishment was ass backwards.
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Male 1,678
I went to a Catholic school and was taught Evolution. Not once, not even in Religious Studies, was I told anything remotely similar to what is written here on the subject. Bashing billions of peoples beliefs because of a few eejits is almost as backward as what they`re teaching.
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Male 5,413
....true
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Male 2,670
Ludicrous. No one with any scientific credentials has *ever* estimated the age of the Moon anywhere in the vicinity of 10K years.

Absolute bullpoo, but then again, what else can one expect from the zealous adherents to a Stone Age religion?
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Male 14,330
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Male 6,737
I`m converted!
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Male 37,890

Since christians are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going?
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Male 10,440
[quote] not all christian establishments are ass backward [/quote]
Yours was. Why on earth would one teach ID? It`s silly...
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Male 190
Wow not only is it false... it`s poorly written as well!
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Male 633
i went to a private christian school. we were taught both evolution and intelligent design.
not all christian establishments are ass backward.
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Male 1,595
It`s not a school book.

I went to a Christian school during Preschool and Kinder, and everything they taught was sensical.

Except that God invented the French Horn, but...
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Female 449
I love how Christians bash our carbon-dating and other techniques of finding age in materials, but when they find some shred of hope they grasp on tight.
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Male 15,510
Nothing can beat that logic
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Male 686
I can`t believe they didn`t proof read the book before they printed it. They mixed up the word retards with scientists...
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Male 881
How very Christian it is to lie to kids.
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Male 2,552
Who says this is a school book...?
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Male 12,138
Looks like a mentalist/ young-earth creationist pamphlet rather than a school textbook though...
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Male 37,890

If those folks are right about evolution never having happened, I sure hope it happens soon.
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Male 37
No words can describe this....
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Male 406
I wonder if it gives proper credit to the unsurprised scientists.
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Male 7
That is really damn sick...
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Female 596
Link: Just Some Scientific Christian Reading [Pic] [Rate Link] - Just in case you`re wondering what they`re teaching kids at private Christian schools. Scary, huh?
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