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  1. Profile photo of big_whip
    big_whip Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:04 am
    Link: Women, Chivalry And Sexism - Admit it, ladies... it`s true.
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:17 am
    so true, so true...
  3. Profile photo of obhwfgirl
    obhwfgirl Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:18 am
    Maybe if women were paid more, then men wouldn`t have to pay for their meals.

    drating misogynists.
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    Boadicea Female 18-29
    1678 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:20 am
    Uh, no. On several levels.
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    Naomie_111 Female 18-29
    57 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:23 am
    I have never expected a man to pay my bill, I always split it 50-50, and enough with this recycled crap already.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:23 am
    HEAR HEAR!
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    zlatan Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:23 am
    seen this so many times, but it still rings true
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    Golkar Male 18-29
    391 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:25 am
    Puh-lease, if women were paid more, they`d still expect men to pay for dinner, don`t even try that garbage.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:25 am
    "Maybe if women were paid more, then men wouldn`t have to pay for their meals."

    Soooo. We should ignore thousands of years of social evolution that says we should protect women, and they should serve us, based on a few hippies?

    Women killed chivalry.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:27 am
    "Angilion, get in here and tear poo up."

    Hmmmm a female calling for a man to come to her aid?

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    Subfighter88 Male 18-29
    69 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:31 am
    WORD
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    TruTenrMan Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:32 am
    /me sort of agrees.
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    danthew Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:44 am
    Definite.
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    DMonk Female 18-29
    71 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:47 am
    Modern feminism is such a joke.
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    mr_c_bowler Male 18-29
    301 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:49 am
    lol. I tried the whole get her to pay for her share thing with a girlfriend a few years back. It didn`t work
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    Bethingtons Female 18-29
    81 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:52 am
    Jenna Marbles spoke about this a couple of weeks ago. Here is the link. I seriously hate girls who rant about how they want to be treated equally to men but then expect the men to treat them like a princess and pay for everything.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
    4290 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:54 am
    Hmmmm a female calling for a man to come to her aid?
    I just spat my drink over my keyboard. Dammit, AJ :P
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:54 am
    Repost I think.
  19. Profile photo of Breabubz
    Breabubz Female 18-29
    7 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:54 am
    I disagree for one reason. On a date, guys expect the girl to look really nice. Nice dress, makeup, manicure, hair, all that crap. It all costs a lot of money. You can argue guys have to do some of that too but a haircut for a guy is $10 while a girl has to pay at least $30. Guy needs one good suit or nice dress shirt and jeans. Girls need matching purses, dresses, shoes... And that`s not even touching the amount of physical pain we go through getting ready for a date.
  20. Profile photo of pip-pip666
    pip-pip666 Female 18-29
    420 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:55 am
    Nooo! I don`t EXPECT blokes to pay for me at all and I would be horrified if they got paid more than me for the same job with an equal level of skill. Inaccurate in most cases these days I imagine.
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    emmettyville Female 40-49
    4345 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:56 am
    pigs.
    more like we get a shock when a man actually want s to pay now, and a shock when a man offers to pick something up for us if it`s heavy. chivalary is dead.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:56 am
    "On a date, guys expect the girl to look really nice. Nice dress, makeup, manicure, hair, all that crap."

    No we don`t. We expect you to be yourself. If "yourself" is a girl that does all those things, that`s on you.
  23. Profile photo of auburnjunky
    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:57 am
    "chivalary is dead."

    ...and women killed it.
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    kralmir Male 18-29
    351 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    "pigs.
    more like we get a shock when a man actually want s to pay now, and a shock when a man offers to pick something up for us if it`s heavy. chivalary is dead."

    chivalary isn`t dead, it`s hags like you that made it hard for the men that give a poo.
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    beckpratt Female 18-29
    204 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    This makes me angry and I`ll tell you why. I can open my own damn doors, can pay for my own damn dinner, and can take care of my own damn self. I DO get upset when men make more than women for the SAME work, but I don`t expect special treatment just because I`m female. I hate women that do.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    yep
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    RuralNinja Male 18-29
    519 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    @Beckpratt Most men who do those things don`t do it because the women expects it. They do it because they`re actually nice people.

    No wonder I get more dates now that I`m a dick toward women compared to when I was respectful. Apparently, most women don`t appreciate respect.
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    Tekas Male 18-29
    147 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    "This makes me angry and I`ll tell you why. I can open my own damn doors, can pay for my own damn dinner, and can take care of my own damn self."

    This is the kind of girl I would pay her dinner. She would deserve the chivalry.

    But if a woman is expecting me to pay for evertything just because I`m the guy, she better bring her wallet, cuz it won`t happen. I pay when I feel like doing so and the girl deserves it, not because I am obligated.
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    robotobunneh Female 18-29
    265 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:15 pm
    It`s sexist when it`s expected of the man to pay for things, but if he`s doing it because he wants to, then it`s chivalry.

    Now if a man is doing more work, he should be paid more. But if a man and a woman are doing the exact same job, then YES it is sexism if either of them gets paid more. It`s just the same if a black and a white man had the exact same job, but had a difference in pay.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
    14273 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    I always pay :-| I should start treating women crappier for beter results I guess....
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    oryfoxer7410 Male 18-29
    53 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    No one calling the obvious REPOST?
  32. Profile photo of MandyLea
    MandyLea Female 18-29
    247 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    Well, if the guy gets paid more why shouldn`t he be the one to pay?
  33. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    @Breabubz

    "You can argue guys have to do some of that too but a haircut for a guy is $10 while a girl has to pay at least $30."

    If you only wanted a quick trim, instead of a wash, perm, dye, whatever the hell it is you do to your hair, yours would cost $10 too.

    Nobody is forcing you to have fancy hair.

    (before you counter: I`m gay. I have no interest in how your hair looks. So if you want to pin this on men`s expectations, you can exclude this man from your accusation).
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    This is quite a repost.

    @Tekas-- agreed.

    Free dinners and open doors aren`t rights that every woman is born deserving. It`s something nice that a man can do to show you he cares. You shouldn`t be getting mad when he DOESN`T do it, you should just be grateful when he does.
  35. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    before you counter: I`m gay. I have no interest in how your hair looks. So if you want to pin this on men`s expectations, you can exclude this man from your accusation

    I`m straight and i don`t expect any of those things either. All i expect is that you dress appropriately.
  36. Profile photo of DeathToLems
    DeathToLems Female 18-29
    1435 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:44 pm
    in what country does a chick get paid less?
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    jamesboxy Male 30-39
    233 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    @robotobunneh
    "It`s sexist when it`s expected of the man to pay for things, but if he`s doing it because he wants to, then it`s chivalry."

    Sorry girls, but we don`t buy your bullpoo here.Girls often put pressure on men to pay their bill and buy them presents.If you don`t pay their bills they move to another guy.
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    the_windy Female 18-29
    1589 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    I feel uncomfortable whenever by boyfriend wants to pay, but he always insists. I make him compromise later on though by buying popcorn if we go to the movies or whatever.
    It`s mainly because I have more money then him.
  39. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    If you don`t pay their bills they move to another guy.

    Maybe some girls but certainly not all. My girlfriend had a bit of a go at me when i bought an expensive birthday present for her when i`m tight on money. My dads girlfriend always wants to split the bill with my dad (he doesn`t let her because shes having job troubles whilst he`s well off).
  40. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
    6667 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    <i>If you don`t pay their bills they move to another guy. </i>

    That could just be you.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    I agree with Musuko... Things that women do cost more because they hold themselves to this higher standard. A guy`s haircut is a haircut... thats it. A girl gets cut, dyed, styled, etc... OBVIOUSLY its gonna cost more. You don`t see guy out getting their nails done, so of COURSE a girl can claim she pays more to keep herself looking good. But thats because she lives by THAT standard. I like girls who dont waste their money on makeups and expensive procedures just to imoress people. To me, these extreme steps not only aren`t expected of a girl, I`d actually prefer they not try so hard. All the makeup and plastic justs makes people look fake. Natural beauty is the BEST kind of beauty...
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    EosEcho Female 18-29
    7 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    @Taylor_Stone, I was going to disagree with you, but you`re right. There`s so much unnecessary spending. drat, I`ve never had my nails done or tanned, and will never see the need to. What`s the point of looking unnatural when you want to look `pretty`?
  43. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:03 pm
    LordJim:



    Minus spaces.
  44. Profile photo of zeebeedee
    zeebeedee Male 50-59
    614 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:06 pm
    I just wanna get paid the same as the hookers do.
  45. Profile photo of human_exile
    human_exile Male 13-17
    875 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:14 pm
    woman don`t get it because they`re all stupid
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    deathbringer Male 18-29
    398 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    taylor_stone
    Yes.
  47. Profile photo of hatface
    hatface Male 18-29
    605 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:18 pm
    Hopefully if you get enough dates, guys extra pay should get cancelled out by chivalrous meal payment.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
    7426 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    true
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    K0ttin_K0b Female 18-29
    98 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    I agree with Taylor Stone, and not just because I don`t buy makeups or go clothes shopping for an entirely new wardrobe every season. I like men and women who keep themselves clean, but don`t get caught up in "adorning themselves needlessly" as it were. It`s silly.
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    Satkela Female 18-29
    583 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:24 pm
    @Human Exile: So are you alone by choice or because you suck just all together?
  51. Profile photo of Jasonbobdude
    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 1:29 pm
    But isn`t it obvious? We get paid more so that we can pay for their dinner! Right...
  52. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    I can understand a guy getting paid more for a physical labor job, if he can accomplish more. Not all women are pathetically weak.
  53. Profile photo of SarahofBorg
    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:37 pm
    All of them, DeathToLems, including America.
  54. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
    6667 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    Reganom

    Thanks. That`s been frustrating.
  55. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    In day to day life, it should all be even stevens.

    When it comes to dating, the horniest pays.
  56. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    Women never get paid less for equal work. Like in the cartoon, she`s getting paid less because she`s doing less work.

    Men generally occupy higher-paying and more skilled jobs than men (if you`re going by the Halifax general census, at least).

    Also, women have babies. They`re more likely to take jobs where it wouldn`t be the end of the world if they took a leave.

    But seriously think about it: if women are paid less than men for the same work, why would anyone ever hire men at all? An employer who hated women and only hired men would lose out to someone who hired only women, since women would do the same work for half money.

    But that doesn`t happen, simply because it`s not true.
  57. Profile photo of LordJim
    LordJim Male 60-69
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    June 2, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    In daily life it should all be even steven.

    When dating, horniest pays. That`s probably going to be the guy.
  58. Profile photo of M_Archer
    M_Archer Male 18-29
    525 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    As for chivalry, in my opinion; if a woman holds me to ridiculous double standards (e.g. men always pay for the meal), she`s not worth my time.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7421 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    Tenner for a haircut? You get ripped off- mine is Four quid. She cuts quite well too...
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    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:57 pm
    Lordjim:

    No problem, just don`t try to combine quotes with links, it goes severly wrong. If i remember rightly AlmightyBob explained it as creating a rip in space-time to me.
  61. Profile photo of BigDaddyJeff
    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:22 pm
    so true
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    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:27 pm
    I don`t want a man to pay for my meals, unless we`re switching off who pays. Like if he pays once, I pay once. It feels too patronizing and too much like I`m just mooching off the guy, otherwise.
  63. Profile photo of Batmanners
    Batmanners Male 18-29
    4007 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    Pay a weak woman to do a strong man`s job the exact same as the guy`s. Fire her for not being able to keep up.
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    Squrlz4Sale Male 40-49
    6230 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    I don`t wanna get sucked into a flame war here, but I`ll share a simple fact. On Match.com (USA site), I would estimate that 90% of the women I`ve met or chatted with state that they expect the man to pay for dinner--and often add that if he didn`t, there would be no second date (typical remark: "I refuse to date a cheapskate.") It`s pretty much STANDARD now that the guy pays.
  65. Profile photo of pixiechick81
    pixiechick81 Female 30-39
    838 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    Should male nurses be paid less then female nurses because women tend to be the more empathetic sex?
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    AngryYouth Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    Shouldn`t the guy make more because he always has to pay? JK
  67. Profile photo of tn11
    tn11 Male 18-29
    1587 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:05 pm
    pixiechick- I`m not sure what you think a nurse`s job is, but while being empathetic is a virtue, it isn`t necessary to be a nurse. The nurses I know have some of the bleakest outlooks on humanity.
  68. Profile photo of taylor_stone
    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:13 pm
    @green_batman

    Single?
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    i-am-ninja Male 18-29
    142 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    should a female get paid the same for doing less work than the man just cause if she doesn`t she will sue the company for being "sexist"
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    GasMaskKid Male 18-29
    694 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:19 pm
    This argument is older and dumber than your mom.
  71. Profile photo of K3vin
    K3vin Male 18-29
    487 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:22 pm
    "I don`t wanna get sucked into a flame war here, but I`ll share a simple fact. On Match.com (USA site), I would estimate that 90% of the women I`ve met or chatted with state that they expect the man to pay for dinner--and often add that if he didn`t, there would be no second date (typical remark: "I refuse to date a cheapskate.") It`s pretty much STANDARD now that the guy pays."

    It`s only standard because stupid men think it`s a requirement to get laid... If a guy is a cheapskate, what is a woman that refuses to pay for her own food?

    If a woman won`t pay her own way tell her to drat herself
  72. Profile photo of zombunny
    zombunny Female 18-29
    2525 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    Uh, no.
  73. Profile photo of EgalM
    EgalM Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    I think people should be paid for the work they do. Sadly unions tend to make it so we all get paid lowest amount possible and are stuck working at the slowest guys speed. I`ve encountered this is non-union as well, the slow guys give you poo cause your making them look bad.
  74. Profile photo of almightybob1
    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    If i remember rightly AlmightyBob explained it as creating a rip in space-time to me.
    Both I and the space-time continuum thank you for remembering :D
  75. Profile photo of Rawrg
    Rawrg Male 18-29
    934 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:53 pm
    There is some truth to this over-generalization.
  76. Profile photo of I-IS-BORED
    I-IS-BORED Male 18-29
    2419 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:58 pm
    What`s she doing out of the kitchen?!?
  77. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Both I and the space-time continuum thank you for remembering :D

    When the almighty speaks the people listen =]
  78. Profile photo of BBroBro
    BBroBro Female 18-29
    13 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    I have to say this is bullpoo, because I never expect men to pay for me, and it usually makes THEM uncomfortable when I offer to split the bill or pay completely. Let`s give women SOME credit, yeah? We are not all stereotypes.
  79. Profile photo of LionHeart-72
    LionHeart-72 Male 18-29
    521 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 6:15 pm
    @BBroBro

    Well congrats on being an exception to the norm but the stereotype wasn`t crafted from nothing.
  80. Profile photo of HI-haole
    HI-haole Male 18-29
    576 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 6:22 pm
    @BBroBro... Not all women get mad if you ask to split the bill. That`s because your most likely friends first, but 90% of them will cause in their eyes, your the one that`s pursuing them..
  81. Profile photo of tehbionic
    tehbionic Female 18-29
    313 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 6:43 pm
    It`s true.
  82. Profile photo of krisley
    krisley Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    Repost... also thank you lion 72.
  83. Profile photo of getlipscomb
    getlipscomb Female 18-29
    26 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:27 pm
    okay, one, I hate when guys pay for me, it makes me feel like they`re always expecting something.
    two, why is it that guys never take into account the extra money women have to spend on hygiene items?
    I mean... come on... sometimes pretty ain`t cheap...
  84. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:33 pm
    No problem, just don`t try to combine quotes with links, it goes severly wrong. If i remember rightly AlmightyBob explained it as creating a rip in space-time to me.

    Damn, is that what happens? I must be Walter Bishop!
  85. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    M_Archer:

    Your post saves me repeating myself, but it will have no effect. You`re using reason as a counter-argument to mindless faith and that doesn`t work.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:38 pm
    in what country does a chick get paid less?

    Probably some. Saudi Arabia, maybe.

    But some people have an unshakeable faith that it happens everywhere. Since their faith has no basis in reason or evidence, it`s impossible to change their minds. It`s easier to convert a devout theist to atheism or a radical atheist to theism.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    Tenner for a haircut? You get ripped off- mine is Four quid. She cuts quite well too...

    That`s good for a haircut. I shaved my hair off last year. £10 for clippers from Argos and that`s my haircutting expenses sorted for a few years. It was costing me a fair bit before, certainly more than £4 a time.
  88. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:46 pm
    I don`t wanna get sucked into a flame war here, but I`ll share a simple fact. On Match.com (USA site), I would estimate that 90% of the women I`ve met or chatted with state that they expect the man to pay for dinner--and often add that if he didn`t, there would be no second date (typical remark: "I refuse to date a cheapskate.") It`s pretty much STANDARD now that the guy pays.

    Look on the bright side - it`s a quick way to screen out women who aren`t worth knowing. They`re not looking for a partner. They`re looking for customers. Nothing wrong with being a prostitute or escort, but plenty wrong with being dishonest about it.
  89. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:49 pm
    Damn, is that what happens? I must be Walter Bishop!

    Not untill you cause a war between two alternate realities :P
  90. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:54 pm
    There is some truth to this over-generalization.

    Not in my experience. 100 years ago, certainly. 50 years ago, much less but still some truth in it. Now? Not really.

    I`ve been trying to think of a woman I`ve dated who expected me to pay for everything as the default, and I can`t. Not one.

    Although that may be because I wouldn`t date one who did. I`m not subtle about my views on chivalry, so I wouldn`t be in any way involved with anyone who liked the idea. Especially not any of the hypocrites who like the modern utterly one-sided version of it, for men who are fools and women who are bigots and hypocrites. Men behaving like medieval knights might make some sort of sense with women who behave like medieval ladies, but removing one side and leaving the other is for fools and bigots.

    The whole bag of pooe should be left in the history books.

    Did I mention that I wasn`t subtle about my views on chivalry?
  91. Profile photo of KittenCereal
    KittenCereal Female 18-29
    956 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 8:29 pm
    hmmm I think it`s completely sexist and morally wrong for a woman to expect a guy to pay just because he is a guy.

    Sexism can and certainly does go both ways.
  92. Profile photo of Ripper398
    Ripper398 Male 18-29
    1310 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 8:46 pm
    IAB, how many times are you going to drating troll with this crap?
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    gothmo Female 18-29
    1324 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    I let my first boyfriend pay, but he always offered and knew I didn`t have money but took me out anyway. I only let my second boyfriend pay when I didn`t know he was going to be paying haha, any time after that I`d always pay them back. I don`t mind the holding the door open etc. part of it, but then I wont be mad unless it`s dropped in my face either so whatever, I feel uncomfortable when people pay for me. It`s weird... and he`s doing more work anyway, it`s only a problem when they`re being paid different for the same work.
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    keith2 Male 18-29
    2587 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    I mack hoes, they don`t mack me.
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    temp4comment Male 60-69
    99 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    gothmo, let us know when it`s the same work, k?
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 12:02 am
    @getlipscomb

    As I said in my earlier post, guys find all the primping and dolling up unnecessary... And to be honest, girls and guys could easily spend about the same amount on necessities and still come out about even. Sure, women need to buy feminine hygiene products, but men burn through razors and shaving cream faster than women do, so the cost balances a bit.
    (Not saying its a perfect sync, but its close)

    @Angilion

    Strangely enough, we are in agreement... I`ve personally never met a girl in which the chivalry/sexism thing was an issue. But, like you, I tend to not date those types anyway, so I can`t say from personal experience...

    All I know is that its been a running joke for many many years in tv and movies, but I`ve never seen any of the "the man has to pay" in actual practice in real life. Most girls I know are more than happy to pay their own way...
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    surprisefire Female 18-29
    28 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 12:36 am
    I`m sorry, but the guys who are saying that they don`t care if women make themselves esthetically pleasing are lying even if just a little. I do not shave (nor do I wear makeup or spends time and money on my hair) because I don`t see the point in it and I find it a waste of resources, time, and money. On top of that it makes for interesting conversations in the winter with guys who are like, "Oh I`m all about the personality. The girl doesn`t have to try to be good looking blah blah blah." To which I respond with a simple raise of the pant leg and I usually get something along the lines of that`s disgusting. So most guys can`t say they want their women being natural when I know from experience that is false. Which also renders taylor`s counter argument to our having to buy feminine hygiene products moot, unless he approves of hairy women and I`m not saying he doesn`t.
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    baglad Male 18-29
    29 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 1:20 am
    @Suprisefire
    Theres a difference between looking presentable and a girl making herself look like a whore. That is why guys shave their faces and dont complain, girls shave their everywhere else and dont complain and why we all get haircuts, wear nice clothes etc.
    If you want to be gross and just be hairy as hell contantly then that just makes you look like a gross unhigeinic troll, it doesnt make you look like your breaking the social boudaries of your sex.
    I bet you say you dont give a crap about guys looks, but if one came up to you with a raggady unshaven ass beard a foot long or gross unkempt dreadlocked hair then you`d be out of there in a shot.
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 2:14 am
    I know it`s a repost but I`m glad I couldn`t find this picture XD

    I don`t get what`s so bad about paying for a woman. It shows that your a `gentlemen`. Not meant to make them feel `little`. There shouldn`t be any pointless dispute about being polite. If a woman wants to pay or go halves, then fine.

    As for the pay rate, that`s different. He`s carrying more though...
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    squoggle Female 18-29
    158 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 3:03 am
    Laws and social norms are different
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    surprisefire Female 18-29
    28 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 3:17 am
    @ baglad

    Actually, I wouldn`t care considering my ex has a scraggily beard and I don`t mind so that kinda makes your point invalid. If a guy wants facial hair, who am I to stop one measly person from having one? Also, shaving legs has no hygienic value to it, which is why you never hear a man dying from hairy legs on the news. It`s purely esthetic. I understand there`s a difference between wearing a dirty tshirt and a nice one, but that`s also because I don`t like to walk around in dirt.

    I`m not saying I`m above everyone and that I don`t judge because, at the end of the day, everyone judges others no matter how hard you try not to. All I`m saying is guys who try to claim they want their girls to be natural most likely are lying and I`ve proved it in most cases.
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    Fojos Male 18-29
    159 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 3:35 am

    "I mean... come on... sometimes pretty ain`t cheap..."

    Yeah, because men don`t buy hygiene items, am I right?
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    phattiger Male 18-29
    157 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 4:49 am
    @squoggle
    "Laws and social norms are different"
    What?
    Laws are basically enforced social norms...so yea...they aren`t different.
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    taylor_stone Male 30-39
    2688 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 5:10 am
    @surprisefire

    I shave my face, arms, and several other areas... Not because I want to look good, but because I prefer to just not be hairy... Do I care what people think if I WERE? No. If a girl shaves her legs, its because she feels more comfortable that way. The argument of natural beauty is exactly that... I like natural beauty, which means I like seeing girls at their COMFORT ZONE... They dont need to go extra miles to impress me... They want to shave, thats fine, but i dont request it... I take care of myself and do what I do because its what makes me feel comfortable... I dont really do it for any other reason...
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    kimkio Female 18-29
    878 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 6:07 am
    ""I mean... come on... sometimes pretty ain`t cheap..."

    Yeah, because men don`t buy hygiene items, am I right?"

    how many `hygiene items` do you buy exactly?
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
    10339 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 6:33 am
    "how many `hygiene items` do you buy exactly?"

    Bar soap, face soap, body wash, deodorant, drat off expensive cologne, shampoo, conditioner, gel, toothpaste, toothbrush, floss, face moisturizer, shaving cream, after shave lotion, razors, baby powder, foot powder. <----- Quite a bit. I wasn`t trying to prove you wrong, The question made me curious.
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    bmoz628 Male 18-29
    98 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 7:28 am
    thank god im gay i get paid more and dinner bought for me :)
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    Quackor Male 18-29
    2856 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 8:38 am
    actually taking unemployment into account women make 9% more than men
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    namenottekan Male 18-29
    6 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 9:57 am
    feminists are the problem with chivalry. we never said you incapable of opening a door(not all women are paris hilton) its just polite. i open doors for guys too. hell its the only polite i do. im a very impolite person.

    also, if a woman does more work than a man she should get paid more. my neighbors work in the SAME warehouse doing the SAME work for the SAME hours every day and have been doing so for several years now. and GUESS WHAT?!?! THEY GET PAID EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT!!! unless you count last years Christmas bonus cause the husband got screwed out of his by one of there other co-workers. so actually THE WOMAN MADE MORE MONEY.


    that said, sexism is just as dead as chivalry. if anything its gone the same route racism has. black people(well any "minority" really. black is the just most common.) always play the race card when it works in there favor. thats why they love being black(or whatever they happen to be.) feminists do the same thing with se
  110. Profile photo of squoggle
    squoggle Female 18-29
    158 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 10:31 am
    @phattiger What I meant was that laws are in place to keep men from having higher wages for the same work, and the reason why men usually pay for meals is a social norm.
    With actual proper feminism (or guymamism or whatever if you wanna) women wouldn`t have to shave their legs to be accepted as guys don`t have to (because both men and women have naturally hairy legs, it`s only generally women who shave) and the equivalent of having a greasy beard with food in it is not a hairy legged women because the hair on her legs wouldn`t have food in it LOL!
    And actual proper feminism would mean the guy doesn`t automatically pay for things
    IF THAT MAKES SENSE??
    And it`s not even that I feel that strongly about it as much as I feel strongly about shallowness being always shallow no matter what the context BLUH!
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    EinfachKrank Male 18-29
    78 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 7:04 pm
    Haha, women.
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    Happy_Pandas Female 13-17
    307 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 7:06 pm
    I don`t give a poo, just buy me my burger when I`m low on cash, thanks.
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    number43 Male 70 & Over
    759 posts
    June 4, 2011 at 1:27 am
    "feminism is not having to shave your legs"

    I shave my face, it`s called hygiene. True feminism WAS about attaining equality. The right to vote, the right to secure employment beyond "womens work", equal treatment and pay. Well, that`s all been accomplished in this country with perhaps the exception of personal lives.

    A seemingly common misconception is that "equality" is a synonym for "the same". It`s not. Women are women, men are men. Saying you don`t need to shave your legs because men don`t is stupid and an absolute affront to the women who devoted their lives to giving you the right to vote. The government isn`t forcing you to shave your legs, like the government was refusing to allow women`s rights. Smooth skin has been a feminine trait for as long as history has been recorded, just as burliness has been a male trait. True feminism should be about embracing your feminine nature and taking pride in it, instead of shunning i
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    number43 Male 70 & Over
    759 posts
    June 4, 2011 at 1:36 am
    ...that was going to say "instead of shunning it in exchange for looking like a man."

    If you don`t think men do things to look more manly then you`re really not paying attention. Do you think guys like working out just for body image? hell no. How about dancing? not many of us. shaving, cutting or styling our hair, no and no. These are things that both sexes do to attract...well not necessarily the opposite sex but whatever they`re going for.

    Equality is of the highest importance. But equal is not same.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    June 4, 2011 at 3:02 am
    number43:

    Feminism is, always has been and always will be a simple biological group advocacy ideology. It has never had nothing to do with equality except to use it as a tool, like a parasite infecting a host.

    Those, like yourself, who argue that men and women are different, are demanding sameness a lot more than most people are because your line of argument relies on men being the same as each other and on women being the same as each other.
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    number43 Male 70 & Over
    759 posts
    June 4, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    Angillion,
    I`ve read quiet a few of your posts and have little interest in your opinion.
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    Crizzy777 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    June 4, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    Well as long as the guy is responsible for the income of the whole family (which includes his wife aswell) I think guys should get paid a little better.
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    engruls06 Female 18-29
    401 posts
    June 8, 2011 at 8:53 pm
    Lame. I pay for myself and like it. The retards that are getting all technical about this....go plank yourself. I hate you. You and your politics should die. Now there`s something you can do for me.

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