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219 Responses to Tobacco Vs Alcohol Vs Marijuana [Pic]

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    kitteh9lives Female 70 & Over
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    June 16, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    Link: Tobacco Vs Alcohol Vs Marijuana - Sorry, which one is illegal again?
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    obeydarklord Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:38 pm
    glad i quit smoking. and IDGAF, alcohol is wayyyy funner than smoking herb. just sayin.
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    reDonkulous Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    so true
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    DeathToLems Female 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    drunkorexia? are you s**ting me? is that even a word?
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    unmercyfuldu Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    While I agree marijuana should be legalized I hate this argument. The argument shouldn`t get distracted and drag alcohol`s name through the mud (most of those ailments are not proven). The argument needs to simply be that you have every right to do whatever you want to your body so long as it doesn`t harm others.
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    cnsocialist Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    dont care much for pot, but for the 21yr old drinking law, thats just bullsht
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:44 pm
    Or you can be allergic to weed like a small percentage of us, and feel like you`re dying when you smoke it.

    So at least some of us can have the other two, so drater off.
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    somevas Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:47 pm
    this is dumb once again.
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    bobhub600 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    Wait... Since when does drinking give you hepatitis ?
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    msieg007 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:51 pm
    I`m really glad this post isn`t biased at all...
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    Javabean2 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm
    I smoke and I`m stoned and that just scared the sh*t out of me.
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    paddy215 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    When you`re this blatantly biased you`re more likely to turn people against your argument than towards your way of thinking.
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    SapphireHart Female 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    Wow how biased and wrong is this? :P
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    Afugy Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    @bobhub600
    Hepatitis is swelling and inflammation of the liver.
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    Thdot Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:06 pm
    I drink lots and my testicles have not shrank. :(
  16. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    Marijuana was believed to cause schizophrenia but after studies and research it was concluded that the only cannabis users that developed schizophrenia were only those genetically predisposed to it.

    The only problems I found in marijuana(I used to smoke) were some slight withdrawal symptoms like loss of appetite, insomnia, etc., and that the most popular and accessible way to use it is to smoke it, which is not particularly healthy(although marijuana smoke has only been linked to paralyzed cilia and another very minor respiratory condition which I cannot recall)

    If you want have a read of the effects of marijuana in different medical conditions I suggest Granny Storm Crow`s List.

    Sorry if it`s a bit of a stretch, but I have a strong desire that people change their negative view on cannabis. If
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    Zombiemike Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    alcohol causes facial disfigurement?
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    The_Garuness Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    I absolutely agree with unmercyfuldu. Weed shouldn`t be illegal but this is utterly mis-informed.
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    TurkeyInButt Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:09 pm
    wow this sucks. Many more problems with pot than that... and you can basically take the whole list for cigarettes and move it over to the weed since smoke from that is almost worse for you than cigarettes.
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    TR-Wolf Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:10 pm
    I indulge in neither of them, but it really does seem silly which are legal and which aren`t. Then again, I`m sure there`s more than just those for weed, I mean the alcohol one shows `impotence` which is famously something weed can cause too.
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    spultra13 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    Alcohol is the single most destructive drug there is in most countries.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    when i drink i`m more social and more relaxed. i also noticed that they said drinking will cause damage to unborn babies. everyone knows this is true , however, i`m sure smoking weed while pregnant isn`t too great for the baby either.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:15 pm
    "and you can basically take the whole list for cigarettes and move it over to the weed since smoke from that is almost worse for you than cigarettes."

    Nope.
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    im surprised it doesn`t also say that weed cures aides and cancer, racism, and brings peace to the world!
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    SamiSpider Female 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:17 pm
    Eh, not the most accurate thing I`ve read... but I do believe that marijuana should be legal.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:17 pm
    alcohol causes facial disfigurement?

    It can cause redness on your nose and sometimes also your cheeks. Something to do with damage to the small blood vessels in your skin.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:19 pm
    "the only cannabis users that developed schizophrenia were only those genetically predisposed to it."

    The only people PERIOD who develop schizophrenia are those genetically predisposed to it. The brains of schizophrenics are significantly different than people without the disorder (larger ventricles and I forget what else), and being closely related by blood to a person with schizophrenia significantly increases your chance of having it.
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    Dad4Life Male 50-59
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    What a pile of crap.
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    Kaagan Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:29 pm
    weed:
    decrease testosterone in men
    increase testosterone in women
    decreases fertility
    makes you an annoying hippie that talks about legalizing pot all the time
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    sl4d3 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    throat and lung cancer should be in marijuana. Also causes clumping of vesicles in the neurons.
  31. Profile photo of TurkeyInButt
    TurkeyInButt Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:42 pm
    @sbeelz Yep. May not be all the additives but smoking is smoking and damages your lungs all the same. A joint gives more lung damage than a cig.
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    EntrE Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:43 pm
    what it all comes down to for me is that weed is ONLY smoked for it`s effect on the body. alcohol is not. of course people drink to get drunk, but people also drink (like beer or whine) because it`s of great taste and a luxury food. and the alcohol is an important part of that taste. non-alcoholic beer tastes like poo. i have never seen somebody smoke weed for it`s phenomenal taste. and i don`t believe there will ever be THC free joints for the gourmands out there. so basically that`s why marijuana has no legitimate reason for me to be legal. alcohol does, although, granted that, it is often misused.
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    Handersan Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    oh my god!! How do i get rid of this STUPID MEEBO bar at the bottom of the screen???? its getting in the way even when i goto pause a video. What a stupid piece of sh*t!
  34. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:47 pm
    EntrE:

    Cannabis can also be eaten and in that way it`s possible that if it were legal and had a long enough cultural tradition it would gather the same gourmet traditions as alcohol. It`s the other things mixed with alcohol that convey the taste in good booze, so the same could apply to cannabis.
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    lkc1 Female 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:48 pm
    uhm, yeah i believe this might actually be complete bs.
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    Kain1 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:52 pm
    Honestly.... this is a bit misrepresenting, don`t you think ?... I hope noone other than potheads buys into this crap..
  37. Profile photo of Afugy
    Afugy Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:54 pm
    @sl4d3 cannabis has never been shown to cause cancer.
  38. Profile photo of EntrE
    EntrE Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    @Angilion
    it being eaten has nothing to do with my point. show me one food or drink where weed is substantial for it`s good taste
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    dm2754 Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:01 pm
    pro 420 BS
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    SoberGuy Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    lol, "increased sweating"
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:11 pm
    oh silly potheads.
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    Jowsh Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    I wonder whether this was made by a weed smoker or by a non biased individual? I guess we`ll never know...
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    skypirate Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    lol, "increased sweating"

    thats why experts say exercise is bad for you!
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    whyme73 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:16 pm
    And which one has caused wars and death. I`m all for legalization but don`t whine and complain to everyone.
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    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:18 pm
    "A joint gives more lung damage than a cig." -TurkeyInButt

    Can you, please, back that up? Please read this

    Contrary to what propaganda has tried to make us believe, marijuana has anti-carcinogenic properties(it can reduce the size cancerous lung tumors by 50%, it acts as a bronchodilator(opens up airways), and can be used to treat asthma.

    Of course, smoking isn`t the best way to use cannabis
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    HamilTaco Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:19 pm
    Here`s an idea! How about we make them all illegal!.. Anyone? Anyone... no? Sigh...
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    Yeoouch Female 50-59
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:27 pm
    Here`s really why MJ is illegal:
    Because industrial cannabis (hemp) was a low cost alternative to wood-pulp paper, was annually renewable, better for the environment due to non-sulfuric acid processing, was a viable option to fabric and plastics, billionaire, newspaper and magazine mogul William Randolph Hearst, also a lumber/paper mill baron, demonized and propagandized cannabis for his own profitable ends. Lammont DuPont joined forces with him due to the imminent threat of hemp to his chemical manufacturing of synthetic fabrics and plastics. Andrew Mellon, DuPonts banker, (yes, the Carnegie-Mellon Charitable Trust Sesame Street Mellon) helped DuPont keep out of bankruptcy. With appointment of Mellon`s nephew Harry Anslinger as the Commissioner of the new Federal Bureau of Narcotics, this band of merry men effectively stamped out hemp production in this country to this day!!.
    I say we`re not paranoid enough about how money controls EVERYTHING!!
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    gary8162 Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    Marijuana is a gateway drug. Period. In my case, it led to smoking cigarettes to hide the smell from my parents. Smoking cigarettes led to drinking so I could pick up drunk girls at the bars. picking up drunk girls led to getting them stoned. getting them stoned led to armed robbery so I could afford my vices. It wasn`t like I had a choice or anything.
    (and yes, this entire post is sarcastic so please don`t take it seriously and respond like it was.)
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    jwhalerfan Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:35 pm
    you guys are ridiculous. alcohol is a million times more harmful than pot. this poster might be a little off, but facts are facts. alcohol destroys lives, families and is the TRUE gateway drug, with no doubt. it even has it`s own disease... lol.

    all i see here is a bunch of alcoholics bashing the picture. i occasionally drink and i used to smoke a lot in college. i know plenty of people who have died or killed others from alcohol, lost their jobs and families because of alcohol and TONS of young people who are clearly on their way to something less than positive from alcohol.

    I don`t know anyone who puffs that has died or killed anyone from using it, or suffered terrible losses over a pot addiction. I know a few who have lost their jobs due to drug testing, but that has nothing to do with the subject here.

    alcohol is bad. pot... no so much.
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    FreedomFrie Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    they forgot to add hyper-extreme-ultra-laziness
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:37 pm
    How about we make them all illegal!
    How about we make you illegal?

    Chart makes a good point.

    so basically that`s why marijuana has no legitimate reason for me to be legal.
    Assuming that it didn`t, why would it need one?

    By your logic, you would outlaw most life-saving drugs.
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    talon0325 Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:38 pm
    Sorry people, It is not which is illegal. More like which ones the govt want`s to allow and tax. Survey says that a pothead is usually to stoned to drive or try and do break and enters, or rob someone. Crackheads on the otherhand are a different story. Gotta roll 1 while I smoke a cig and suck on a brown bottle of suds , then wait and see what other responses you people put here. Oh, And EntrE ! grind up a few grams and add it to your pizza or pasta sauce. Tell them it is oregano. Simmer for a few hrs and watch what grandma does after a slice, or bowl of pasta. You can also sprinkle well ground herbs in a drink as simple as a Caeser. Also works well with hamburger (helper).Just a few ways other than the brownies crap. Also works great with chicken noodle soup or beans , but it has to be cooked in for at least 10 minutes.
  53. Profile photo of TheGrinch
    TheGrinch Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:39 pm
    This chart is absolutely accurate. Look it up before dismissing it people. Watch the very informative documentary called The Union: The Business Behind Getting High, or the slightly less informative, more humorous Super High Me if you have any doubts. Seriously, both those movies are on Netflix instant watch. If you don`t believe this chart graphic thingy, you owe it to yourself to watch those movies.

    Also, yo Zombiemike, ever heard of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome? Look it up.
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    magerune Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:43 pm
    The only harmful side effect of weed is loss of work ethic, if you`re a lazy loser chances are this will make you lazier and more of a loser.

    On the other hand WHAT DOESN`T make you a loser in mass quantities? If I weighed 300 pounds because I ate burgers all day every day wouldn`t that be terrible? Should we ban burgers because I can`t control my appetite?
  55. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:44 pm
    EntrE:
    Just like people "responsibly" consume alcohol(drinking wine has undoubted benefits), people should also be available to consume cannabis responsibly, because it`s a drug with lots of medicinal benefits and with very negligible side effects(giggling and hunger)
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    d4es Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:45 pm
    So the best argument for legalising marijuana is that there are substances worse than marijuana that are legal?

    Isn`t the more logical argument that cigarettes and alcohol should be banned?
  57. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    @Angilion
    it being eaten has nothing to do with my point. show me one food or drink where weed is substantial for it`s good taste

    Note what I wrote:

    Cannabis can also be eaten and in that way it`s possible that if it were legal and had a long enough cultural tradition it would gather the same gourmet traditions as alcohol. It`s the other things mixed with alcohol that convey the taste in good booze, so the same could apply to cannabis.

    In particular, note "if it were legal and had a long enough cultural tradition".

    Alcoholic drinks weren`t developed for their taste with the drug as a side effect. They were developed either to make the drug drinkable and palatable or because they made water safe to drink. The gourmet thing is a result, not a cause.
  58. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    d4es: Since when do arguments online have to be logical :P

    CJ: Sources or GTFO (The geeks call :P), i think we need more long term studies and more definitive studies, if you have them i`m more than willing to read them (provided i can access them through my uni accounts).

    On topic: I`m on the fence about it to be honest. Unfortunately the illegal status in america on weed means that it is harder to perform long term studies, and a lot of medical research takes place in America. Before i can make my choice i`d need:

    Long term studies on weed usage, peer reviewed papers.
  59. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    In particular, note "if it were legal and had a long enough cultural tradition".

    Alcoholic drinks weren`t developed for their taste with the drug as a side effect. They were developed either to make the drug drinkable and palatable or because they made water safe to drink. The gourmet thing is a result, not a cause

    I agree. Alcohol has been a part of culture for such a long time that it`s allowed. If weed had been as prevalent and prominent in our history i suspect it would be fine in modern day.
  60. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    "Isn`t the more logical argument that cigarettes and alcohol should be banned?"

    Perhaps it isn`t, the Volstead Act(1919 Alcohol Prohibition in the United States of America) left us a precedent: when the alcohol prohibition came into law, a large underground business controlled by organized crime was born(remember easy-speaks and guys like Al Capone?), this only left to more violence and obviously the law-breaking brought upon by prohibition.
    The same situation has happened with cannabis, it is now controlled by dealers who see marijuana, a highly valued and readily available "material", as an easy way into being rich. With this opportunity they go as far as killing other people to have control of the underground business. The argument for legalization is not that alcohol and tobacco are worse than cannabis, but that cannabis is actually healthful unlike alcohol and tobacco(which flourish in their legal state).
  61. Profile photo of TurkeyInButt
    TurkeyInButt Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    @CJ-Boy-2010 yeah yeah blah blah blah. look it`s a muddled area. It`s a mixed bag of reports. I google it and find sites saying it`s worse than cigs and others saying it isn`t. They come out with new info every other year so nobody seems to know anything. Marijuana has some medicinal properties, to reduce pain in some circumstances, but those people are usually in bad shape anyways so no big deal. So everyone site seems to have differing opinions which means it`s not fully clear. I just know it`s not healthy.
  62. Profile photo of talon0325
    talon0325 Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:03 pm
    Rolling a blunt. hauling on a beer and smoking a butt. The 3 B`s of life. Oh wait, I am also at the BBQ so there are 4 B`s in life, add a boat and that makes 5.
  63. Profile photo of monsterzero
    monsterzero Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:03 pm
    So what this chart is saying is all the cancer and lung and coronary complications in tobacco smoke doesn`t happen with marijuana smoke?
    And the depression and psychic disorders caused by alcohol are not present in marijuana use?
    Sorry but I call shenanigans.
    Proven fact there are just as many carcinogens in marijuana smoke as in tobacco. Also a fact that marijuana use causes that same depression and anti social, lethargic symptoms as alcohol use.
    Not putting pot down, just want you to get your facts straight.
  64. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:05 pm
    Rolling a blunt. hauling on a beer and smoking a butt. The 3 B`s of life. Oh wait, I am also at the BBQ so there are 4 B`s in life, add a boat and that makes 5.

    Boobs and bling? Bitches? :P
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    CacaConPelos Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:09 pm
    Tetas
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    magerune Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:12 pm
    "So what this chart is saying is all the cancer and lung and coronary complications in tobacco smoke doesn`t happen with marijuana smoke?"

    ROFL!

    Benzene and Formaldehyde are found in cigarettes and you think that burning a PLANT that grows out of the ground causes the same effects as burning these chemicals?

    Shenanigans a plenty bud.

    And as for the alcoholic implications, the bar fights alone are indication of what Alcohol does to society. It`s ACTUALLY proven that weed makes you passive.
  67. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:13 pm
    Reganom: Perhaps you missed my first post in which I shared this. I see you`re from Europe, but seeing that Europe has several countries where marijuana is legal I`ll take USA as the example.
    Just like alcohol has been a popular drug(used for recreation mostly, not medicine) since long ago, marijuana has been equally used, medicinally, by many historic cultures like the Egyptians, the Native Americans and even the Chinese(which now have one of the most strict views about cannabis).
    Americans come up with the "cultural" argument on most debates, but it must be noted that in the 17th century marijuana was legal, in fact the first law in America(Jamestown Colony, Virginia; 1619) about marijuana stated that it was required to grow hemp, this law was later implemented in other sites of New England. I mean,
  68. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:15 pm
    (cont.)I mean, you could even pay taxes with hemp for 200 years and could get jailed for not growing.

    IAB keeps cutting out my post even if I stay on the caracter limit, sorry for that :/
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:15 pm
    The three of them are just bad
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    monsterzero Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:18 pm
    It`s ACTUALLY proven that weed makes you passive.



    Oh really?
    I guess you don`t smoke then or you would be passively quiet instead of speaking out to defend it?
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    Ando Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    I think this might be biased
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    funnehkitteh Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:22 pm
    while reading this post i downed a beer and rolled a cig. weed just doesn`t cut it for me :/ it used to but now i just sleep after 1st j
  73. Profile photo of katie-marie
    katie-marie Female 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:25 pm
    Any sort of smoke is bad for inhalation, whether it is from weed or cigarettes or even rolling up a piece of paper and lighting it on fire. So, yeah, unless these guys are putting their marijuana in a humidifier they should add the lung complications to weed as well.
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    SmagBoy1 Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:25 pm
    "Also a fact that marijuana use causes that same depression and anti social, lethargic symptoms as alcohol use."

    Cite reference please.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    CJ: From what i can get from the links i`ve glanced at quite a lot of them are from cannabis-med.org. Whilst i don`t know about the impartiality of that source, therefore i won`t comment on that, it seems that a lot of the links are looking at THC as medicinal usage as opposed to cannabis as a whole.

    The majority also seem to be singular studies as opposed to long term repeated studies, which i would prefer.

    However they seem to be fighting for medicinal usage not general usage.
  76. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:28 pm
    Also CJ, the character count is a lie, always best to stop a little short.
  77. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:32 pm
    Cite reference please.

    Probably the same reference that the chart uses :P
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    geckohead Female 50-59
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    I am so sorry that I appreciate all of those terrrible, terrible vises. Like SORRY!
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    a1butcher Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    Crap.. I`m drunk, stoned and high, now I need a smoke. What were we talkimg bout again?
  80. Profile photo of monsterzero
    monsterzero Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    Cite reference please.

    You seriously need a reference from a source?
    How sociably acceptable and and chock full of explosive energy are you when your baked out of your tits?
    There`s your reference.
  81. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    monsterzero:
    Don`t try to get other people`s fact straights with "facts" that are not backed up.
    Neuropsychological performance, anti-psychotic, skin cancer, Cervical and lung cancer, colorectal cancer. You should read those before judging so hard and spewi
  82. Profile photo of monsterzero
    monsterzero Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 7:11 pm
    Excuse me? Judging and spewing?
    These things I am definitely not doing.
    I`m pointing out how biased this chart is because a lot of the same symptoms of tobacco and alcohol use are also attributed to marijuana use. I don`t need a reference to prove smoking pot causes asthma and bronchial problems because I am that reference. I also don`t need to cite reference of anti social behavior and lethargic tendencies mental anxieties and paranoia because I was that reference.I don`t have to cite reference of how smoking pot and not cigarettes will give you lung cancer because my cousin is that reference.
    Facts? You want facts?
    Take the facts of someone that smoked the sh#t for 25 yrs and knows what it does to your body and your mind and those around you.
    It`s just as evil as butts and alcohol so you can get off your high horse about your clinical studies with me.
    Thank you.
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    metalhead516 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 7:19 pm
    I can proudly say that I am drug free, smoke free and alcohol free! I don`t even drink soda anymore! Suck my balls if you want to talk sh it about that!
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 7:22 pm
    @monsterzero

    You as an exception does not prove anything.
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    JDplaysFF Male 30-39
    626 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 7:35 pm
    @monsterzero

    Maybe some pot would help you cool down. As far as anti-social behavior, this could be what the insurance companies call a "pre-existing condition"
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    TwoEyezBlind Male 18-29
    483 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 7:40 pm
    Seriously? For drinking: Anti-sociality? It`s the only time in my life where I was whip my junk out and piss in front of the world, or jump into a group of absolute strangers and not feel akward.
    Also: Muscle weakness: Apparenlty somebody never got into a bar fight or they would know it`s like having a fist fight with a Tank from L4D

    List is garbage.

    How about for weed:
    Dry mouth
    Muchies
    Severe laziness
    Drastic negative effects on sperm
    Drug domino effect
    Crime domino effect
    Homelessness
    Joblessness
    Being a loser
    Never having money
    Disownment by everyone

    And the list goes on...
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    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 7:47 pm
    monsterzero:
    As a grown adult you should know by now that every subject is different, and as such, we all react differently to everything. Whatever it was that happened to you, is not completely dependent on marijuana. Just like it may have affected you negatively, it affected me for the better. If you are just depreciating the picture(which is a completely stupid one), that`s no excuse to claim that marijuana has carcinogens or that it causes mental disorders all by itself. Just so you know, the cancer associated to cigarettes is caused by the radioactive fertilizer used to grow commercial tobacco.
    If cannabis is as bad as alcohol, why are there no deaths related to the use of marijuana, while incredible amounts of people die, not only due to health problems caused by alcohol, but also by drunk driving, drunk fights and such? It seems to me that you`re just resented about some health mishaps and just blame your drug use on it. These clinical studies just show that whatever pro
  88. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 7:49 pm
    These clinical studies just show that whatever problem you had, was not a sole result of marijuana use.
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    BostonKaiser Male 40-49
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:03 pm
    *Turns up Cypress Hill CD and walks away from thread*
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    thesandwich Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:07 pm
    At the end of the day, people want to wind down. Some go for a run, some (like my former boss) drink excessively, some smoke pot, and some have a less popular option. As long as none of them hurt anyone else, what is the harm?
    I know students who smoke pot daily and get over a 3.5, and I know drunks who hardly pull a 2.0.
    There is no good reason for pot to be illegal, for any problems associated usually isn`t the drug, it`s the person.
    Just like all the alcohol companies say, Please us in moderation.
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    supersai20 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:21 pm
    metalhead516: you need to start living a little
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    OnECrazYCoW Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    The fact that this shows so little side effects of marijuana just means that it hasn`t been studied as much as other other two drugs listed. That is probably due to the fact that the other two are legal and the third isn`t. I`m sure that if marijuana was legal, it would probably have just as much side effects as the other two.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:35 pm
    There`s no reason for marijuana to be illegal except "drugs are bad, m`kay?"

    That`s it.

    There is a negative stigma associated with it, when in reality I know plenty of people who use without it negatively impacting their lives. It`s just one more way to relax, with or without your friends.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:35 pm
    metalhead516: you need to start living a little

    Says the 13-17 year old?
  95. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    There`s no reason for marijuana to be illegal except "drugs are bad, m`kay?"

    That`s it.

    There is a negative stigma associated with it, when in reality I know plenty of people who use without it negatively impacting their lives. It`s just one more way to relax, with or without your friends.

    Anecdotal evidence (on both sides i hasten to add) is not a valid argument.
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    RdDan Male 30-39
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    Trust me, you don`t want Schizophrenia.
  97. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10731 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 8:42 pm
    Drastic negative effects on sperm Unproven/unverified
    Drug domino effect Disproved
    Crime domino effect Unproven
    Homelessness Other factors involved
    Joblessness Only so due to criminalization
    Being a loser Subjective
    Never having money Other factors involved
    Disownment by everyone Varies by "everyones`" political views
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    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 8:46 pm
    Cajun:

    I admire your dedication to getting them all quoted xD

    Although the gate way drug part i would disagree with you. There are studies showing a statistically significant increase of using harder drugs if one smoked weed. However there are also studies showing the opposite. I`d chalk that one up as unverified. Although i would expect that the people you have to buy from would have some factor.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    There`s no reason for marijuana to be illegal except "drugs are bad, m`kay?"

    That`s it.

    There is a negative stigma associated with it, when in reality I know plenty of people who use without it negatively impacting their lives. It`s just one more way to relax, with or without your friends.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    By that i mean weed dealers will most likely have access to or stock the harder drugs, and in order to buy weed you have to enter the criminal world to some extent.
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    wtmac Male 30-39
    436 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 8:48 pm
    @katie-marie I prefer it in brownie or drink form personally. I hate smoking anything, mostly because of the way it makes my hands and cloths smell.
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    darkgear6 Male 70 & Over
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    0mg u are mairjauana addicts, smoking is cool and drinking is fun dummies
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    Klamz Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    I`ve said it before and I`ll say it again, drugs are about avoidance, be it smoking, alcohol or marijuana. If you cannot relax without using drugs you have underlying issues that need to be dealt with before that `it`s not hurting anyone else` turns into a murder-suicide.
  104. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
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    June 16, 2011 at 8:51 pm
    Reganom: What is a good argument for it being illegal?

    RdDan: Please read this, this, and this articles. Also: this, this,
  105. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
    384 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 8:54 pm
    and this abstracts. ffs, will ALL my replies be cut by half?
  106. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 8:59 pm
    CJ:

    I have a suspicion that the character count may also count the actual link text. Seeing as it`s cutting off at that limit.

    With regards to evidence for illegality. There are papers that are proven wrong by papers that are proven wrong by papers. It`s just a lot of back and forth at the moment.
  107. Profile photo of CJ-Boy-2010
    CJ-Boy-2010 Male 13-17
    384 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 9:11 pm
    There`s no need for evidence, although that would be many times better, the only need is for a decent argument. Everything that`s been said since the Reefer Madness era has been either disproven or uncovered as simply lies.

    The most famous arguments, I believe, are the gateway theory, addiction, cancer and schizophrenia. The gateway theory is a good joke without a base. Addiction has been discarded, the only thing related to addiction might be caused by the subject, although withdrawal symptoms do occur. Cancer has also been discarded, and even shown that it`s the other way around. And schizophrenia like all the previous has been discarded and only linked to genetic predisposition to the disorder.
  108. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    CJ:

    All those parts you mentioned have papers for both sides. Which is the problem for me. Apart from the schizophrenia which i believe you are correct about.

    It`s now 5 am and i had better go to bed. I will be back when i wake up (likely 12 hours seeing as i`m a student and all).
  109. Profile photo of zlatan
    zlatan Male 18-29
    292 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 9:44 pm
    i have a prediction that pot will be legal in the US in the next 20 years
  110. Profile photo of RdDan
    RdDan Male 30-39
    759 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 9:49 pm
    CJ - i am a Carer for my Brother who suffers from schizophrenia.
    I`m not saying it`s caused by smoking weed.
    I`m just saying trust me - you don`t want Schizophrenia.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 9:51 pm
    Also CJ, the character count is a lie, always best to stop a little short.
    Completely disregarding the actual subject of debate here, all I will say is ^THIS. Cheers, Reganom!

    A word to the wise. IAB is made of lego, but each brick is functionally retarded. The 1000 character limit is offset when you include imgs, links, smileys, quotes etc, because the character string enters a whole bunch of html bullsh*t which I don`t understand, nor want to. It`s basically voodoo.

    IABers, I know it`s frustrating, but if you`re including such things in your post, safe bet is to cut it off short. And it ain`t ganna change anytime fast. As I`ve said before, IAB was coded by Franciscan Monks sometime in the mid-16th century, and getting a developer for a few weeks from Demand Media to fix it is like trying to prise a fat kid off a cake.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
    2588 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 10:11 pm
    Ok I`m all for the doaja. But you can attach every fuct up thing happening to your lungs from tobacco to mary j as well.

    If it was legal, we could all just eat the damn plant. Sure it takes more/costs more but it`d be cheaper than it is now I assume.
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    monsterzero Male 40-49
    356 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    I think you`ll find many, many "exceptions" who smoked grass.
    And radioactive fertilizer causing the cancer?
    HAHAHAHAHAHA!
    now that`s funny. even if they do use it, people were dropping dead from smoking long before they started using it.
    Doesn`t matter,possibly someday you`ll become the "exception" and you`ll understand
    And CJ, as a 13-17 yr old you should know that you don`t know everything. It affected me for the better for a long, long time. not putting you down nor do I really care if you smoke weed, just letting you know it`s not as healthy as you believe it is.
    I`m done now.
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    BostonKaiser Male 40-49
    1185 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    @keith2, if it was legal, we could just grow it ourselves, thus costing nothing.
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    Mitchster Male 18-29
    544 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 10:39 pm
    Well, there`s a chance of cancer of the mouth, esophagus, and lung if you smoke pot, too.

    Now if you bake it in brownies, or put it in tea, it`s totally fine. I always imagined that would be the best cure for a sore throat ever; pot tea.
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    elgrappa Male 18-29
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    June 16, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    hate people who post this sh*t and don`t get their facts straight there is more tar in a joint than in one cigarette, hence if you smoke one joint the tar you are getting in your lungs is equivalent to one pack of cigarettes unless you use a vape or some other fancy ass weed smoking equipment you are still no better than a cigarette smoker. look it up!!
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    axeman929 Male 30-39
    195 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 10:52 pm
    The question is liberty. Living on the planet earth causes death.
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    Izaq Male 30-39
    173 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 10:55 pm
    People in my class in high school all drank. Most smoked. Some smoked marijuana.

    Now:
    Most of us drink occasionally.
    A few still smoke, but most have stopped.

    The ones who smoked marijuana increased their consumption until they couldn`t get any education, couldn`t get jobs, one is in prison for robbery.

    Nuff said?

    True - marijuana does not damage the body physically like smoking and drinking. But don`t underestimate the social effects of being stoned every day and only waking up in the morning to get stoned again and waste your life.
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    rbt_food Male 18-29
    322 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    yes but can you play beerpong with pot instead?
    alcohol for me please.
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    Buiadh Male 30-39
    6739 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:27 pm
    Meh, make them all illegal. Doesn`t bother me much.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
    3745 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:30 pm
    elgrappa: if you have tar in your weed then you arent smoking weed...

    getting high makes you and schizo?
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    ragebot Male 18-29
    32 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:31 pm
    Things like this make me truly sad. Cannabis also increases your likelihood of experiencing a heart attack because it lowers your blood pressure, thereby forcing your heart to work harder. This fact seems to have been left out of this little list though... It just goes to show that no matter what side you take, no matter how seemingly noble the cause may be, someone will always lie to you to promote their own personal interests.
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    madduck Female 50-59
    7558 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:38 pm
    Weed for me every time, but to be fair it is down to moderation. Just because something is legal does not mean it is safe or sensible. However, most drinkers and smokers I know are really aged and in very bad condition- but most who smoke weed are still okay.......
  124. Profile photo of Student_Law
    Student_Law Male 30-39
    1010 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    For god`s sake, if people want to smoke pot, let them smoke pot. Hell, givem` crack if thats what they want.

    There is no cause between the legality of a drug and its users chance of harm or dependency. All we do is uptain the narco cartels market.
  125. Profile photo of Torizo
    Torizo Male 18-29
    316 posts
    June 16, 2011 at 11:56 pm
    ok this is obviously a narrow point of view. For starters why the hell isn`t cravings put on the pot list. Very dissappointing especially seeming I mostly agree with this.

    oh and depending on how you take it dope does is smoked so it does alot of the same things cig`s do. >__>
  126. Profile photo of Torizo
    Torizo Male 18-29
    316 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 12:00 am
    @collegebound- Yeh thats true. It`s usually over long term usage. Not sure of how often it appears in earlier or non-constant usage cases.
  127. Profile photo of Monosandalos
    Monosandalos Male 30-39
    285 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 1:25 am
    Although I don`t have any evidence to back this up (I`m too lazy to go looking for it now), I was under the impression that smoking marijuana has the same `side-effects` as smoking tobacco.
    The main reason for this is that you still inhale the smoke of the burning rolling paper, plus some people mix the marijuana with tobacco anyway.
    I`m not aware what happens when people roll with things other than paper and don`t mix tobacco.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2011 at 1:53 am
    I`ll just stick with the drug we all know is safe!


    It`s Doctor Recommended!!!
  129. Profile photo of apedrana
    apedrana Male 18-29
    144 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 2:19 am
    the big difference between the damage cigarettes cause to weed, in terms of in-haling carcinogenics. You don`t smoke a pack of joints a day for 40 years of your life. Even the most smoked out pot head couldn`t smoke as much weed compared to your average tobacco smoker. Could you imagine walking around with a deck of Joints everyday? I could ;)
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    apedrana Male 18-29
    144 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 2:30 am
    the only real reason why tobacco and alcohol is even legal today, is its been around for a bloody long time, its ingrained into our western culture. Our governments are too used to the tax revenue. Even though most of those tax dollars are spent nursing and caring for the long time affects of them. If Alcohol and tobacco were invented today, they would not be made legal.
  131. Profile photo of Jammey
    Jammey Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2011 at 2:47 am
    I`d be straightedge, but goddamn it, I just love drugs too much
  132. Profile photo of Coolhandluke
    Coolhandluke Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2011 at 3:11 am
    Just because 20% of the population doesn`t smoke marijuana doesn`t mean that it only has 5 side effects. I`m sure if everybody started smoking it, we`d find that it causes lung cancer and other undesirable effects just like tobacco.
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    Dutch-Master Male 18-29
    52 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 3:28 am
    American hype over marijuana how bad it is.. better ban weapons, saves u more lives i think.
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    sirgurl Female 18-29
    108 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 3:46 am
    smoking weed can still lead to mouth, throat and lung cancer due to the inhaling of hot smoke. Still, I`ll take weed any day over ciggies!
  135. Profile photo of SunnyNphilly
    SunnyNphilly Male 18-29
    645 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 3:55 am
    I`m sure if everybody started smoking it, we`d find that it causes lung cancer and other undesirable effects just like tobacco.

    You sir are uneducated on the subject. It has been scientifically proven that marijuana smoke does not cause cancer.
  136. Profile photo of Noggin01
    Noggin01 Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2011 at 4:06 am
    @SunnyNphilly ~ It is scientifically proven that you are STUPID. You cite me your research and I`ll cite you mine.
  137. Profile photo of Tiredofnicks
    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2011 at 5:01 am
    Not biased at all.

    Besides, I find the reasoning "If X is harmful, but Y is more harmful, X is good thing" to be absurd. Doing the less stupid thing is still doing a stupid thing.
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    CHICOMIMI Female 18-29
    854 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:13 am
    All bad in my book. And I`ve done all three.

    I do see some of the good in Medical Marijuana but, the people who want it; want it for the wrong reasons...lets hope that Scientists, do come up with the Medical Weed that has all the benefits and no High.
  139. Profile photo of littleoracle
    littleoracle Female 30-39
    322 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:25 am
    This is obviously written by a pro-pot person. Always the case with pot heads - lets list everything that`s horrible about alcohol and cigarettes - it makes pot look better.

    YES, there are side effects to pot that are not listed. A big one I find missing is impotence and yes, I personally knew a man who had big problems sexually due to smoking pot some 6x a day for years (I really think he was self-medicating to be honest). YES, it does affect a man`s sexual performance down the line.

    Side Effects
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    16comets09 Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2011 at 5:27 am
    anti-sociality under alcohol???
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    Dimmu_Borgir Male 18-29
    63 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:59 am
    @ littleoracle

    ummmm, i`m going to disagree. I have a kid, can get it up and perform with no problem at all. sounds like the guy you knew just had problems anyway.

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    littleoracle Female 30-39
    322 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 6:02 am
    Dimmu: Sorry, but it was confirmed by a physician. Doing pot that many times a day for almost 20 years - yeah, it had long term effects. Maybe it didn`t happen to you, but not everyone who drinks dies from liver damage.
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    WorstCaseOnt Male 30-39
    214 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 6:26 am
    Not so much performance - but pot does affect sperm - not necessarily sperm count - but definitely motility and percentage of abnormal sperm... Also - if you smoke joints - make no mistake - the zigs and rizzlas are messing up your lungs!
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    aroc91 Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2011 at 6:39 am
    @collegebound

    It can exacerbate it if you`re predisposed, but it won`t give you schizophrenia.
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    liberalirony Male 18-29
    196 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 6:41 am
    Surely impaired brain development, psychosis, anti-sociability, cravings,skin discolouration, driving under the influence, impotence, damage to unborn child, infertility (and that`s just the alcohol list) should be under pot as well.
  146. Profile photo of Jowsh
    Jowsh Male 18-29
    1237 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 6:43 am
    These threads..god..At the end of the day, inhaling any smoke is bad for you, and cannabis is not a good thing for everyone. There are so many high and mighty weed defendants blinded by its brilliance- The fact is, some people use it happily and recreationally and get on with their lives just fine, and for others it can become a very negative aspect to their life, and they do not get on with it. I have seen a great many people change quite a bit having smoke heavily for a few years, unfortunately not in a good way. Others seem to give it its place in their life and there is no issue! There will always be the blind arguments saying "Weed is good, full stop. No matter who you are, it`s good. Just look at how much more harmful alcohol is!". I used to smoke weed so don`t get me wrong, I just get annoyed by people who would have you believe it is a harmless substance full stop. @Ragebot, yeah I read that, sthing like 5 times higher risk of heart attack in the 20 minutes of being h
  147. Profile photo of patchgrabber
    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 6:58 am
    @ Jowsh

    Marijuana, like any other drug, can be used OR abused. The problem is, that criminalizing one the government promotes the notion that use IS abuse. Sure some people can mess their lives up on anything, including non-addictive things like gambling.

    Also, studies have shown that smoking marijuana does not lead to increased instances of lung cancer when compared to people who smoke tobacco or don`t smoke at all. The bottom line to this argument is the ridiculous criminalization of something that is magnitudes less harmful than either of those other products.
  148. Profile photo of flagler
    flagler Male 30-39
    321 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 7:41 am
    Wow. Ok,time to Google "drunkorexia". I have to cofirm that it doesn`t mean that you do things backwards when drunk.
  149. Profile photo of alx-ndr
    alx-ndr Male 18-29
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    June 17, 2011 at 7:56 am
    LOL what bullpoo... cannabis does major permanent psychological damage.
    Most of the smoking ones can be moved over to cannabis... inhaling smoke of ANY kind gives you cancer of the mouth, lungs, throat etc...

    Schizophrenia ruins your life so that alone is one reason to make it illegal. It doesn`t affect everyone that way, but the few it does are in care homes or have committed suicide.
  150. Profile photo of ultimakewl
    ultimakewl Male 18-29
    833 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:05 am
    @Jowsh
    yea people can misuse marijuana
    but the can also misuse alcohol and tobacco
    and look at pro wrestling... they misuse cheap furniture all the time

    just because it can be misused and does get misused by some people doesnt mean it should be illegal
    otherwise EVERYTHING would be illegal

    im not gonna say marijuana isnt harmful but compared to alcohol and tobacco it might as well be a big bowl of ice cream
  151. Profile photo of trickroom
    trickroom Male 18-29
    286 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:11 am
    so.. this bit of information is...biased? :O
  152. Profile photo of ultimakewl
    ultimakewl Male 18-29
    833 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:12 am
    @alx-ndr
    compared to tobacco smoke marijuana smoke is much less harmful
    and again... the argument that it can do bad things to some of the people that use it IS NOT A VALID ARGUMENT
    because so can alcohol and tobacco
    so can peanuts
    so can dairy products
    so can EVERYTHING

    compared to alcohol and tobacco, marijuana is much less harmful
    im not saying they should all be legal or all be illegal, or that marijuana should be legal and the other 2 shouldnt be
    im just saying the current system makes no damn sense
  153. Profile photo of bataleon27
    bataleon27 Male 18-29
    1178 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:13 am
    hmm, a little biased. Although I do agree to some extent. I think `temporary paranoia` is a slight understatement.
    Cannabis psychosis anyone? Although this doesn`t happen to anyone, and I think weed is equally dangerous or less dangerous than alcohol, this is still inaccurate.
  154. Profile photo of OliveHaze
    OliveHaze Female 18-29
    29 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:26 am
    There is no proof that marijuana causes schizophrenia. There is only a correlation between marijuana use and people who later develop schizophrenia. The schizophrenia thing could be as simple as people who are predisposed to having schizophrenia also enjoy some pot smoking.

    Also marijuana has no preservatives and chemical additives like cigarettes, which adds to the cancer cigarettes cause.

    They need to make a list of all the benefits marijuana has also. Like helping anxiety sufferers, insomniacs, people with eating disorders.....
  155. Profile photo of coolcrazyguy
    coolcrazyguy Male 18-29
    161 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:26 am
    don`t listen to the anti-pot idiots on here. They don`t know what they`re talking about, and all they know about pot is the false propaganda they are taught in school.
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    CCMA_19 Female 18-29
    311 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:28 am
    Pot causes Schizophrenia? BULL! All it does is make you munchy as all hell, tired and a bit paranoid
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    madest Male 40-49
    7378 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:30 am
    Drug-driving? What the hell is that?
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    kbubb91 Male 18-29
    89 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:34 am
    all pot does is hungry, sleepy, and laughing. it doesnt make me paranoid unless i see a cop car, thats prohibition not the pot itself
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    KidGixxer Male 30-39
    182 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:34 am
    Don`t think for a second that once weed is legalized that this list will stay the same.

    Manufactures will start putting all those chemicals that are in cigarettes in the packs of marijuana.
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    rogue_knight Male 40-49
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    June 17, 2011 at 8:35 am
    zzzz
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    KidGixxer Male 30-39
    182 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:38 am
    @madest
    Drug-driving? What the hell is that?

    It could be one of the first 2 below.

    DWAI (Driving While Ability Impaired)
    Driving under the influence (DUI)
    Driving While Intoxicated (DWI)
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    Oystah Female 40-49
    4032 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:45 am
    Really? Drinkers have shrunken testicles?
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    mrtatulas Male 18-29
    271 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 8:49 am
    I don`t think enough studies have been done with marijuana that this list makes any sense. Tobacco and alcohol are used regularly by vast swaths of the population. The pot-smoking populations is relatively small. I`m sure there are as-yet undiscovered health risks... you are burning a plant substance and inhaling the solid particulate... there is always a chance any of the chemicals contained therein will react with your body`s chemistry.
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    PoopNoodle Male 40-49
    400 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 9:12 am
    @mrtatulas
    "The post-smoking populations (sic) is relatively small"


    In 2003, 3.1 million persons aged 12 or older used marijuana daily (i.e., on 300 or more days) in the past year. Source Source

    Marijuana has undergone extensive studies. The only people who say it hasn`t are conservatives such as yourself.
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    Tiredofnicks Male 30-39
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    June 17, 2011 at 9:18 am
    KidGixxer: Here`s your tinfoil hat, use it well.
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    diylobotomy Male 18-29
    1832 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 9:25 am
    they forgot memory loss, lack of motivation, and inability to get a job and shower.
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    Dverg1 Male 18-29
    4 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 9:26 am
    @Mrtatulas and all those others that complain about the dangers of the actual smoking of marijuana.. Make brownies!
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    calculator Male 18-29
    29 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 9:38 am
    I see marijuana as an accelerant, any negative effects it could have is due to unique brain chemistry. I for one am pretty chill, but marijuana makes me that lazy kind of ADD and panics me sometimes. Any relatives with mental illness and I would stay away, despite the argument that it shown neuroprotective properties.

    @PoopNoodle, 3.8 million is just above 1 percent in the US, my bet is it`s mostly the underclass (I know you liberals love class warfare) using regularly since it`s effects are somewhat debilitating. The other side of being conservative is weighing reality to facts, I don`t think there is anything conservative about the money it costs to keep the stuff criminalized and the government waste. I used to smoke, I`m 20. Grow up
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    Lobotomy Male 13-17
    495 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 9:49 am
    Schizophrenia? What?
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    IRockYeah Male 40-49
    2619 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 10:23 am
    But dont you smoke weed too? Does it cancel out all what normal smoking does to you?
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    Renaud- Male 18-29
    423 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 10:40 am
    LOL I smoked weed for the last 13 years almost every drating day and Im not schizo, nor do I feel a lack of motivation, I have a good job, I shower everyday (sometimes twice my job is really dirty)The only bad thing it does is drating your short term memory so thats why I carry a pad with to takes notes...Seriously the biggest effect of weed is laughing and hunger, so why it`s illegal again?
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
    685 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 10:48 am
    Marijuana is not thought to cause schizophrenia, only to speed up its onset...So if you have schizophrenia, if you smoke you will get it faster...Also, Marijuana has two effect, one is an "up" effect the other is a "down" effect. Depending on the type you smoke it can either motivate you to do things, or demotivate you enough to sink into your couch...
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
    685 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 10:57 am
    @PoopNoodle, 3.8 million is just above 1 percent in the US, my bet is it`s mostly the underclass

    I guess you are forgetting the entertainment industry...also, i think you have no clue...

    1) Marijuana is the largest cash crop in the United States, more valuable than corn and wheat
    combined. Using conservative price estimates domestic marijuana production has a value of
    $35.8 billion. The domestic marijuana crop consists of 56.4 million marijuana plants cultivated
    outdoors worth $31.7 billion and 11.7 million plants cultivated indoors worth $4.1 billion.

    There is plenty of research that says we should further research the health benefits of this plant, but research on it has been illegal for decades following the failure of scientists paid by the government to prove that it is dangerous.(research leaned towards preventing cancer, not causing it)

    On top of all of that, the hemp plant itself is very useful for industry...
  174. Profile photo of danthew
    danthew Male 18-29
    2122 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 11:01 am
    I`d guess that lot`s of the bad weed effects haven`t been found yet because weed isn`t as common as alcohol/smoking.
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    planty Female 30-39
    119 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 11:40 am
    Cotton mouth and the munchies are pretty bad side effects when they happen.. hence the drugged driving to Jack In the Box.
  176. Profile photo of Jammey
    Jammey Male 18-29
    239 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    Thanks to my good friend wikipedia, I have found that `psychosis` is defined as " a mental state often described as involving a "loss of contact with reality"`

    Well weed clearly isn`t the only drug that induces this; how many times have you been drunk and got angry/cried/laughed at something that wasn`t worth that emotional reaction?

    And do any other countries apart from the UK cling on to the `psychosis` argument quite so vehemently?
  177. Profile photo of sugarhighwho
    sugarhighwho Male 18-29
    11 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 2:00 pm
    I hate these stupid pro drug pictures. Smoking is disgusting and it should all be illegal. Quit fighting for it and get over it.
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    Greylights Male 18-29
    29 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 2:30 pm
    Never really understood this argument... if the legal drugs are the worst ones, why would you want to make another one legal?
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    spanerbulb Male 30-39
    1244 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 3:08 pm
    Legalise all drugs in all parts of the world allow it to become a well controlled and safe industry - instantly save lives, resources and money. Seems over simplified stated like that but I`d be willing to bet it would be a lot better than the current situation.
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    cyborg Male 13-17
    2790 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 3:16 pm
    haha `drink driving`
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    WickedSteak Male 18-29
    319 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    Lol this is stupid. None of it is good for you. Weed smokers just always need to remind themselves that even though it`s still bad for you "it could be worse". They should have added "making excuses to justify being a burnt out druggy" to the list for weed. How about instead of saying "well, at least it`s not as bad as drinking or cigs" you just don`t do drugs. Comparing one bad thing to something worse doesn`t make it good. That`s like saying it`s alright to snort cocaine because smoking meth is worse. The logic is retarded.
  182. Profile photo of phoneybone
    phoneybone Male 18-29
    1744 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    i`m sorry, i`m all for legalizing it, but this is a retarded argument. smoking marijuana, yeah maybe not as many unnatural chems as cigs, but you`re still putting SMOKE in your lungs. no way that`s good for you.
  183. Profile photo of reefaleaf420
    reefaleaf420 Male 18-29
    89 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:03 pm
    the smoke that you put into your lungs is not even close to as harmful as the smoke from tobacco. The most common form of smoking tobacco is from a cigarette (which has many additives) and is rolled in almost your standard paper.

    The most common form of smoking marijuana is from a bong or waterpipe thus reducing the amount of toxins put into your lungs because of the filtration of the water.

    Even though many roll joints, the type of paper used is extremely thin (like rice paper)

    you also dont smoke as much weed as you do tobacco. And instead of creating tar as tobacco does in your lungs, marijuana instead creates resin, which is able to go away after a period of time.

    Marijuana is perfect the way it is. Medical.
  184. Profile photo of reefaleaf420
    reefaleaf420 Male 18-29
    89 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:07 pm
    but im NOT saying marijuna ISNT bad for you.

    also "drug driving" isnt that bad. Unless your some nub who cant handle his weed. And once you smoke enough your paranoia goes away
  185. Profile photo of TypicalJerk
    TypicalJerk Male 18-29
    533 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:14 pm
    Weed has more tar in it than cigarettes do. Use a bong. and an abuser is an abuser, no changing that.
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    xtkm1x Male 13-17
    432 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 5:22 pm
    pretty biased graph...
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    OliveHaze Female 18-29
    29 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 7:34 pm
    You can use weed without smoking it. Ever heard of vaping or edibles?
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    DShephard Male 18-29
    1595 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    This is VERY biased.

    <ragevent>

    I am really darnn annoyed of the nonstop whining about marijuana legalization.

    Just shut up about it, whatever happens happens. Marijuana should remain medical, since one of the biggest arguments of legalization is its medicinal properties. Better yet, make it ONLY the non-high stuff they make in labs. Then that would end the whole debate. You druggies can just go along your not-so-merry way grumbling about how you don`t get to lose mental composure as often as you want.

    </ragevent>
  189. Profile photo of 42467
    42467 Male 18-29
    743 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 7:57 pm
    Another pothead graphic. This is EXTREMELY biased and untrue. Dude, pot`s worse for you than Cigarattes. Get over it. There are more fatal accidents involving marijuana than there are alcohol, and cigarattes don`t impair you in any short term way.
  190. Profile photo of ZefSoFresh
    ZefSoFresh Male 18-29
    52 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 10:47 pm
    @42467-Hey kid, don`t come in here and start making up bullpoo facts. Your either a liar of incredibly ignorant to say there are more fatal accidents associated with pot than booze. Research your facts, asshat.
  191. Profile photo of Boochaca
    Boochaca Male 18-29
    2 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 11:14 pm
    i think the most dangerous thing from pot, is gettin the munchies and drivin to McDonalds or somethin ;P
  192. Profile photo of m16andpregz
    m16andpregz Male 13-17
    6 posts
    June 17, 2011 at 11:57 pm
    You people are brain washed marijuana isnt the cause of it check YOUR FACTS before you spout what you hear. besides something being illegal doesnt make it bad. its that they cant tax it since its a straight up plant so they give it a bad name. no i dont smoke it but i hate people that dont because they think its bad its not IT IS SIMPLY A LEAF THAT IS SMOKED, NOT A PROCESSED CHEMMICALLY ENHANCED LEAF LIKE TOBACCO THAT EVEN CHEWING IT GIVES MANY CANCERS. all it does is make you not stressed and less stupid. i have 5 people in my 8 grade class that smoke it and get great grades on everything. those commercials on t.v. are subliminal messages making you think the bad things that arent true. in less words, you have very low self mindedness so you follow what someone tells you is right. god made the plant and gave it what it does. for all people that think its addictive, leads to worse addictions, or anything like that is wrong. it doesnt get chemically modified by companies so because of t
  193. Profile photo of VirtualParty
    VirtualParty Male 18-29
    787 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 1:51 am
    Hey DShephard, I guess no one wants to use alcohol for fun anymore, so let`s only use medical alcohol. MIRITE?

    Either way it`s a bad comparison, medical marijuana gets you high as well. Very much so.
  194. Profile photo of green_batman
    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 2:54 am
    m16andpregz: Cigarettes do have chemicals added to them that make them more addictive, but there are naturally addictive properties in tobacco. There are nicotinic receptors in the brain where nicotine can bind instead of acetylcholine, the chemical that is supposed to bind there. Something can be natural and bad for you. Botulism is natural, but that doesn`t mean you want to ingest it.

    Marijuana is not thought to be physically addictive, but that doesn`t mean that people can`t get addicted to it or that it is good for you. Psychological addiction is still possible (where a person says s/he can quit any time, but won`t) and there are still side effects of inhaling smoke into your lungs. Our lungs are designed to handle a certain mix and concentration of chemicals typically found in the air and smoke does not fit into that category. Lung tissue is rather delicate, and inhaling any kind of smoke can kill off lung cells.
  195. Profile photo of BlackHaze
    BlackHaze Male 18-29
    194 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 6:16 am
    One of those is illegal?
  196. Profile photo of anafa
    anafa Female 18-29
    38 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 6:44 am
    None of those is illegal.
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    regediT Male 18-29
    716 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 8:39 am
    Weed rants, how tedious.
  198. Profile photo of m16andpregz
    m16andpregz Male 13-17
    6 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 10:38 am
    I know about the part where you can still become addicted in another way but my internet timed out for a while so i couldnt write the conclusion :p
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    m16andpregz Male 13-17
    6 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 10:40 am
    Plus i was really bored last night and that gave me something to do
  200. Profile photo of m16andpregz
    m16andpregz Male 13-17
    6 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Conclusion: my main point for this essay is because like the prohibition era people went to black markets and other dangerous methods of getting contraband and often caused mafias and real criminals to make all thhe money. If weed was legal, thered be no shady dealers with guns or gangs killing eachother because of selling competition. The smoke itself is harmful but not the plant vapor. It has less addictive properties but it shoud not be used if you are irresponsible and will become dependant on it for its effects. Im somewhat hooked to caffeine because it lifts me up but i dont overdo it. In closing, weed can be considered a healthier choice but it is shot down and demonized and most underground organizations and paranoid armed gangs are based around weed because of its being illegal and use that to make money.
  201. Profile photo of m16andpregz
    m16andpregz Male 13-17
    6 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Plus i was really bored last night and that gave me something to do
  202. Profile photo of m16andpregz
    m16andpregz Male 13-17
    6 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Conclusion: my main point for this essay is because like the prohibition era people went to black markets and other dangerous methods of getting contraband and often caused mafias and real criminals to make all thhe money. If weed was legal, thered be no shady dealers with guns or gangs killing eachother because of selling competition. The smoke itself is harmful but not the plant vapor. It has less addictive properties but it shoud not be used if you are irresponsible and will become dependant on it for its effects. Im somewhat hooked to caffeine because it lifts me up but i dont overdo it. In closing, weed can be considered a healthier choice but it is shot down and demonized and most underground organizations and paranoid armed gangs are based around weed because of its being illegal and use that to make money.
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    bonsushi Male 18-29
    204 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 10:53 am
    Nicotine, Alcohol, and Cannabis are all *drugs*

    Even caffeine is a drug.

    To call someone a `burnt out druggie` is quite daft and ignorant. (also, i`ve never heard of burnt-out potheads )

    Also, there are other ways to ingest cannabis, smoking it is the only way it is harmful to you.
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    SunDevilDog Male 18-29
    11 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 2:31 pm
    @bonsushi
    Obviously you`ve never been to ASU haha
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 2:58 pm
    Weed will lead to procrastination. On the other 2, people still attempt to do things :P
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    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    * Studies show that marijuana smoke has been found to contain more cancer-causing agents than is found in tobacco smoke.
    * Marijuana contains more than 400 chemicals, including most of the harmful substances found in tobacco smoke. Smoking one marijuana cigarette deposits about four times more tar into the lungs than a filtered tobacco cigarette.
    * The risk of a heart attack is five times higher than usual in the hour after smoking marijuana.
    *Smoking marijuana also weakens the immune system4 and raises the risk of lung infections.5 A Columbia University study found that a control group smoking a single marijuana cigarette every other day for a year had a white-blood-cell count that was 39 percent lower than normal, thus damaging the immune system and making the user far more susceptible to infection and sickness.
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    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 4:55 pm
    * Users can become dependent on marijuana to the point they must seek treatment to stop abusing it. In 1999, more than 200,000 Americans entered substance abuse treatment primarily for marijuana abuse and dependence.
    * The risk of using cocaine has been estimated to be more than 104 times greater for those who have tried marijuana than for those who have never tried it.
    * Researchers have determined ammonia levels were 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke, while hydrogen cyanide, nitric oxide and certain aromatic amines occurred at levels 3-5 times higher in the marijuana smoke.
    * Scientists were able to provide evidence that the marijuana smoke component Aldehyde was able to damage DNA, a known carcinogen and chemical found in marijuana smoke.
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    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 4:56 pm
    A few things missing for Marijuana --->
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    wolfncoyote Male 18-29
    14 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 5:52 pm
    sam go get your "facts" straight at harvard.edu where they post REAL facts.. idiot..
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    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 6:20 pm
    @ wolfncoyote. BTW Harvard University is not the only researcher on Marijuana
    * I. B. Adams and BR Martin, "Cannabis: Pharmacology and Toxicology in Animals and Humans" Addiction 91: 1585-1614. 1996.
    * National Institute of Drug Abuse, "Smoking Any Substance Raises Risk of Lung Infections" NIDA Notes, Volume 12, Number 1, January/February 1997.
    *Dr. James Dobson, "Marijuana Can Cause Great Harm" Washington Times, February 23, 1999.
    * Harvard University researchers report that the risk of a heart attack is five times higher than usual in the hour after smoking marijuana.
    * Marijuana: Facts Parents Need to Know, National Institute on Drug Abuse, National Institutes of Health.
    * National Institue of Drug Abuse, Journal of the American Medical Association, Journal of Clinical Phamacology, International Journal of Clinical Pharmacology and Therapeutics, Pharmacology Review.
  211. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 18, 2011 at 6:32 pm
    @wolfncoyote...I forgot one

    http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/ evidence99/ marijuana/ Health_1.html

    remove the spaces
  212. Profile photo of 66stang
    66stang Male 18-29
    225 posts
    June 19, 2011 at 4:34 am
    Wow, sam1002, eat up the all the bs they feed ya huh?
    In 1999 200,000 people entered treatment for marijuana. What they don`t tell you is this. If you are arrested for marijuana the judge is 99% likely to give you the option of treatment over jail time.
    Marijuana has 3 times more tar than tobacco, yet not one case of cancer has been linked to marijuana.
    Also, if lung infections are SUCH a concern for you there is more than one way of ingestion.
    i`ll leave you with this statistic.
    deaths per year
    Alcohol 150,000
    Tobacco 450,000
    Asprin (including deliberate overdose) 200-1000+
    Caffeine 5000
    Legal drugs (prescription) 27,000
    Marijuana 0
  213. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 19, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    @66stang Considering I`m not in a position to do these studies myself, the only place I can get this `bs` from are those that have actually done the research already.
    Marijuana smoke and cigarette smoke contain many of the same toxins, including one which has been identified as a key factor in the promotion of lung cancer. This toxin is found in the tar phase of both, and it should be noted that one joint has four times more tar than a cigarette, which means that the lungs are exposed four-fold to this toxin and others in the tar. It has been concretely established that smoking cigarettes promotes lung cancer...so obviously the conclusion is that smoking marijuana can cause cancer as well. That`s just common sense. btw it is highly unlikely weed smokers would change from smoking it to eating it only.
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    WetSquirrel Male 18-29
    54 posts
    June 19, 2011 at 6:40 pm
    Sam, you seem to be a complete dumbass of a tool, so you`ll probably never change your opinion on weed. Only advice I can give you is to go smoke a joint, then smoke a cigarette.
    Once you`ve smoked both, try saying cigarettes are healthier than weed...
    Douche
  215. Profile photo of Sam1002
    Sam1002 Male 30-39
    83 posts
    June 20, 2011 at 3:13 am
    @WetSquirrel I`m dumb because I research on the internet to find facts about weed from reliable sources, instead of listening to hearsay or people`s assumptions and opinions? with regards mental health, weed is worse. physical health, cigarettes are worse, simply because people smoke more cigarettes than joints. I know what weed does to you, I smoked so much at university I became addicted to it. Every morning I woke up, I would have a bong because I wanted that high again. Also considering tobacco is the main ingredient of a joint, there is no difference. I`ve seen friends start on weed, then they go onto ecstasy and speed, ketamine, acid and then finally heroin or cocaine. It`s not nice to see.
  216. Profile photo of KittenCereal
    KittenCereal Female 18-29
    956 posts
    June 22, 2011 at 12:09 am
    In my particular case MJ makes me insanely focused; I`m actually a hell of a lot more thorough with any task.
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    TheiaRenown Female 18-29
    426 posts
    June 23, 2011 at 7:07 am
    heheh I love coming in here and reading comments, it`s so cute how people try to fight or justify.
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    Moosh Female 18-29
    196 posts
    June 23, 2011 at 7:23 pm
    Sam-- regardless of the tar amount, nicotine paralyze the cilia lining your lungs while you are smoking. These cilia "wash" out your lungs by moving in a sweeping motion to get everything to your upper lungs, where you cough it out. When these cilia aren`t moving, everything you`re inhaling can get deeper into your airways and spread throughout your body that way.

    Marijuana, as far as I know doesn`t contain nicotine. I don`t know really anyone that mixes their weed with tobacco, unless they are low or have potent weed and are rolling a joint. That`s just around me, obviously I don`t know what people do elsewhere.

    Since weed isn`t regulated--no one knows for sure what they are smoking. So you can`t say smoking a random bag of weed will leave you with these side effects or without these side effects. People use all three drugs to feel better and they all pose health risks. Bah.

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