Senator Ruben Diaz: Votes Against Gay NY Marriage

Submitted by: fancylad 5 years ago

The only Democrat holdout: Senator Ruben Diaz. Here he is telling us why gay marriage in New York IS WRONG!
There are 92 comments:
Male 10,845
@Oldfrt

For once I agree with you. It`s always been part of my ultimatum:

Recognize all relationships or don`t
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Male 2,850
@Oldfrt

"So why not argue that government should not require marriage licenses at all?"

That would be an acceptable outcome: either everyone has government recognition of their relationships, or nobody does.

The complaint comes out of the disparity: some are given recognition, whilst others aren`t.

"Let everyone have civil unions (for the legal stuff) and just make it nothing but private contracts?"

That is an outcome I would be happy to see.
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Male 273
sterile man and or sterile woman...no baby. so according to jravity911 any heterosexual couples should first be tested for fertility before being granted the human right of marriage. after all, marriage is only for making babies.
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Male 23
look i am not against a marriage of any two people...but it is defined as being between a man and a woman to make a family... man and man..no baby...woman and woman no baby...for a gay couple to have a child someone else has to come into play..thats why straight people dont get it. Marriage = family... people have closed eyes and will not open them for anyone.
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Male 749
@Gerry1of1: [quote]How does any relationship I have, no matter what it`s called, affect you? How does my filing a joint tax return shake your beliefs to the core? [/quote]

So why not argue that government should not require marriage licenses at all? If the purpose of marriage is to let two people in love live together, why is the government involved at all? Let everyone have civil unions (for the legal stuff) and just make it nothing but private contracts?
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Male 184
He sounds like "Eat da poo poo" guy.
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Male 528
does anyone care about this B.S , just accept it and move along
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Male 131
@Musuko42

What an absolutely awesome post! You RULE!! \m/><\m/
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Male 55
How the hell did this guy even get voted in?! He has no idea what the hell he`s talking about and can barely speak English! COME ON, AMERICA, WAKE UP.
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Male 2,850
uesday, June 28, 2011 2:26:22 AM
@Gerry1of1

"You`re stronger than that."

Actually, no, they`re really not. Their desire to meddle in the lives of other people comes from a deep-rooted inability to control their own lives. That`s why they give up control to a higher power, and feel that everyone else should do the same.

That anyone else should have self-determination and self-control scares and intimidates them, to the point where they believe that those who profess to have self-determination are deluding themselves (as they think their own incapability must be universal, and not a weakness that they alone have), and perversely feel they are helping others by robbing them of that delusion.

It`d be pathetic, if these people didn`t hold so much sway over how the world runs. Because they do, it`s tragic. For all of us.
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Male 2,850
I`ve never understood black homophobes in America. Do they have such a short memory of their own oppression, or do they just want to get a turn at being the oppressor?
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Male 4,902
Maybe next time elect a Senator that speaks a decipherable form of English? Just sayin
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Male 583
I think he was wasting time on purpose
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Male 15,510
Straight people should stop having gay babies
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Male 208
He was elected, and is his opinion. Too bad if you dont like it. If you want to change things, then get off your couch potato pringles eating ass and get out and vote for someone that believes what you do. He is a democrat. so this is a warning to lazy democrats who just pull a lever for someone with the D in their title. Find out what the person believes before you vote them in. Who knows, you may have just rejected a republican that is pro gay marriage because you are a freaking SHEEP.
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Male 2,988
wow. Senator Ruben Diaz is pretty horrible at his job. he is saying that they are wasting too much time on the gay marriage bill and to make his case he tries to waste further time on it? good luck getting re-elected you ignorant hypocritical homo-phobic chump....
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Male 12
I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself what a wonderful world.

The colors of the rainbow so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shaking hands saying how do you do
They`re really saying I love you.

I hear babies crying, I watch them grow
They`ll learn much more than I`ll never know
And I think to myself what a wonderful world
Yes I think to myself what a wonderful world.


-Louis Armstrong :-D
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Male 37,888

well there`s nothin` but mischief in them irish.
a drinkin` and a brawlin and a lovin

can`t trust the lot
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Male 483
@Gerry:

Lol, I do agree with what you said completely. I am all for gay marriage and am happy it is finally becoming a reality. IrishJesus is my name on here because my friends said I looked like jesus (I did before I got my hair cut a few months ago) so it became a nickname.

Also, I`m Irish if that wasn`t obvious. And ironically enough, I`m agnostic.

But you are right. Everything is my fault and always will be. :)
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Male 37,888

@ IrishJesus

Just insert any name you like :)

Looking at YOUR name it`s probably all your fault anyway
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Male 483
@Gerry:

I believe TypicalJerk was just quoting BigDaddyJeff, if I`m not mistaken.
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Male 702
Well said Gerry.

On a side note, how does someone that unintelligible get voted into the state senate? Seriously? I`m having a hard time determining whether or not he even DID oppose same-sex marriage... No wonder politicking takes so long. Jeez.
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Female 418
I couldn`t understand a word he just said
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Male 1,744
Of course he`s against gay marriage, he`s black! Really? Have we really not figured that correlation out?
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Male 599
Not suprising since over 70% of African- Americans voted against gay marriage in California. Yet the Mormons got all the blame. Heck AA`s don`t even like the Mormons.
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Male 37,888
@ TypicalJerk

[quote]We are not choosing your values, Gerry, but upholding our values.[/quote]
Then YOU should not marry the same sex and I will uphold MY values and marry a guy. Oh wait, I forget you are busy upholding your values over my head.

[quote]Gays already have many legal solutions that give them the same rights as hetero marriage. [/quote]

Myth. Civil Unions do NOT have the same rights/responsabilities.
The `back of the bus goes to the same place as the front` mentality is just bigotry. Own it.

[quote]Why is it so important to the gay community that they call what they have `marriage`? Why is it necessary to destroy what I believe in and my values so you can call it marriage?[/quote]
I am all the way over here. How does any relationship I have, no matter what it`s called, affect you? How does my filing a joint tax return shake your beliefs to the core?

You`re stronger than that.
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Male 2,593
I thought Gerry1of1 was banned? Welcome back
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Male 2,593
That guy is bat-poo crazy
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Male 2,868
@BigDaddyJeff- It IS a political debate, since we`re talking about how the government, which is secular, legally defines marriage. Your church deciding how it wants to define marriage would involve a debate about values- no church will be forced to preform marriage ceremonies for relationships that they don`t sanction, no matter how the secular government defines marriage. But once the state is involved, then politics are automatically involved too.
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Male 368
@typicaljerk
This is not a political debate. It is a debate about values.
Stop being such a tyopical jerk...oh...wait...
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Male 533
All the quotes you bring up are about our values and have nothing to do with the constitution so `good ol` copy and paste` doesn`t mean you understand what you are saying.-
That`s all you had to say. So please, stop bringing your religious values to a political debate.
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Male 29
He sounds like a fcking bum.
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Male 368
@typicaljerk
All the quotes you bring up are about our values and have nothing to do with the constitution so `good ol` copy and paste` doesn`t mean you understand what you are saying.

Except for this. You summed it up very well in this statement
"You think because some faggots get married, your countries morale will freefall until apocalypse, but your fine as long as the suck eachother off and buttdrat behind closed doors without the `married` title?"
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Male 533
Most of the fifty-five Founding Fathers were members of orthodox Christian churches and many were even evangelical Christians. The first official act in the First Continental Congress was to open in Christian prayer, which ended in these words: "...the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son, our Savior. Amen". Sounds Christian to me.
Our v-
Funny how that part never made it into the final draft =|
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Male 533
@ iambuzzed
I never said that the constitution and the bible had anything to do with each other.
OH WAIT
Times may have changed but our values have not.
Judeo Christian principles say that marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman.
(good ol` copy and paste)

You keep contradicting yourself now. Just like the bible itself. xD
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Male 533
-Judeo Christian principles say that marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman.

We are not choosing your values, Gerry, but upholding our values.
Gays already have many legal solutions that give them the same rights as hetero marriage.
Why is it so important to the gay community that they call what they have `marriage`?
Why is it necessary to destroy what I believe in and my values so you can call it marriage? -

Can you stop bringing up judeo-christian beliefs when they obviously have no part in our constitution. Your post about article 16 clearly stated that people of any religious background(I`m pretty sure that includes NONE AT ALL) can be married. Secondly,
NO ONE IS TAINTING your marriage. You think because some faggots get married, your countries morale will freefall until apocalypse, but your fine as long as the suck eachother off and buttdrat behind closed doors without the `married` title?
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Male 368
@ iambuzzed
I never said that the constitution and the bible had anything to do with each other.
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Male 368
Times may have changed but our values have not.

Judeo Christian principles say that marriage is between 1 man and 1 woman.

We are not choosing your values, Gerry, but upholding our values.
Gays already have many legal solutions that give them the same rights as hetero marriage.
Why is it so important to the gay community that they call what they have `marriage`?
Why is it necessary to destroy what I believe in and my values so you can call it marriage?
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Male 93
..it cracks me up when people claim the constitution and the bible have anything to do with each other. sorry bigdaddyjeff, you`re wrong. look no further than the first amendment and the first three commandments...
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Female 1,101
How in the world can someone fighting for their rightful civil liberties be considered a distraction or unimportant? Ugh. This is America and the last time I checked it was freedom and civil liberties that made us great!

There is no good legal reason why same sex couples should be denied marriage, only "moral" and religious bull poo.
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Male 2,868
[quote]Marriage is NOT a fundamental right. If it were then I want to sue EVERY woman that ever turned me down on a date because they are impeding my civil liberties to get married.[/quote]

Congratulations, you win the most absurd comment of the day award. I shouldn`t even need to point out why this is absurd, so I won`t. If you can`t figure it out for your self, then I feel sorry fo you.
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Male 37,888

P.S. the founders had slaves so maybe they are not the best role models.
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Male 37,888

BigDaddyJeff [quote]"This is a debate about our values in America" [/quote]

We`re back to what empowers you to choose other peoples values for them?

I`m waiting.... ?
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Male 67
BigDaddyJeff... That is a bit of a stretch there, from CT`s preamble to the entire nation. Just sayin`.

Also, something we have currently forgotten is that yes, many of the founding fathers were Christians, but they were polite enough to shelve their personal beliefs while drafting legislation. Yes, there are mentions of the divine, but that was because it was nearly 250 years ago. Times have changed, mate.
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Male 533
there are other far more important things to worry about than if two same sex adults want to get married. health coverage for all, finding sustainable energy, raising education quality, lowering violent crime,solving the economic crisis,lowering homeless rate. gay`s getting married? why the F*CK should any one care?!-

This same sex bs is just a distraction from real issues.
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Male 368
@jinxiej This is a debate about our values in America.
Despite what some people would have you believe, the United States was founded on Judeo Christian beliefs, principles and values.
Granted, God is not mentioned in the Constitution, but He is mentioned in every major document leading up to the final wording of the Constitution. For example, Connecticut is still known as the "Constitution State" because its colonial constitution was used as a model for the United States Constitution. Its first words were: "For as much as it has pleased the almighty God by the wise disposition of His Divine Providence…"
Most of the fifty-five Founding Fathers were members of orthodox Christian churches and many were even evangelical Christians. The first official act in the First Continental Congress was to open in Christian prayer, which ended in these words: "...the merits of Jesus Christ, Thy Son, our Savior. Amen". Sounds Christian to me.
Our v
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Male 317
Yes this is the video of him commenting on the same sex marriage: www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYIxKmrlZuk
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Male 533
He basically is saying he`s not going to oppose the bill, but they are WASTING SOME PRECIOUS TIME on what they could be deliberating on REAL ISSUES
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Male 317
I may be wrong but I think he is commenting on a different bill to the same sex marriage one

And the amount of hate towards him from one 4 minute video is disgusting.
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Male 533
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family.

I see nothing about same sex there. Founding a family is the same a `be fruitful and mutliply` and two people of the saem sex can not do that.

FURTHERMORE, (just going off the article) if two people of the same sex are legally married, under OUR constitution, they are entitled to start a family. Meaning, they can use any method currently available, from artificial insemination to adoption.
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Male 533
@serosian
That is NOT the constitution of the United States of America.
Also, it states
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family.

I see nothing about same sex there. Founding a family is the same a `be fruitful and mutliply` and two people of the saem sex can not do that.

Just as you see nothing about same sex there, i don`t see anything opposing it.
It says men and women of the legal age can get married. It does not specify that they have to marry the opposite sex.
Your second point where you point out founding a family=`be fruitful and multiply` - also negated by the fact that in the SAME article, it gives the right to marry to ANY religious background. So no, it does NOT mean that. This country was NOT founded on the bible.
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Female 728
Gay marriage in no way affects other marriages. It doesn`t hurt anyone. There is nothing inherently wrong with gay marriage, so there is no reason for the government to oppose it. If it is opposed to the beliefs of a particular church, fine, that church doesn`t have to marry gay couples. But the government is supposed to be separate from religion and there is no secular reason to not allow gay marriage.
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Male 37,888

@ BigDaddyJeff - you`re right again. The Supremes have also said adults can choose their own partners.

Turning it around, instead of saying I don`t have a right to marry, tell me why you have the right to restrict my marriage to someone you approve of?

Think a minute... I`ll wait.
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Female 191
@Bigdaddy
There`s this thing a little after the bill of rights called the 14th amendment which section ! reads
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. "

I believe marriage is a privilege of being a United States citizen. Also, to deny gays the right to marry would be deny their partners some of the protections given with a marriage license. Thst would be unequal protection of the law. Which contradicts the 14th amendment.
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Female 2,927
lewis black on the subject. lewis black-gay bandidos
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Male 25,416
Im noticing a trend with IAB at the moment
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Female 2,927
there are other far more important things to worry about than if two same sex adults want to get married. health coverage for all, finding sustainable energy, raising education quality, lowering violent crime,solving the economic crisis,lowering homeless rate. gay`s getting married? why the F*CK should any one care?!
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Male 2,690
Seriously..how is he in office?
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Male 7,378
@ Wildcats, The Supreme Court has ruled in favor of marriage rights the 14 times it`s been before the court. The constitution guarantees equality to all. What were you saying?
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Male 368
@Gerry1of1
It is true that the Constitution does not specifically mention a right to privacy. However, Supreme Court decisions over the years have established that the right to privacy is a basic human right, and as such is protected by virtue of the 9th Amendment.

things that are not in the constitution
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Male 237
serosian, your link to that UN page has absolutely no basis for argument. The United States Constitution is the supreme law making document of these lands and if we start saying that what the UN says is superior to our founding documents then the United States is no longer a sovereign nation.

Marriage is NOT a fundamental right. If it were then I want to sue EVERY woman that ever turned me down on a date because they are impeding my civil liberties to get married.
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Male 10,845
Hey Senator Diaz:
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Female 1,743
Wtf is going on here?
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Male 7,378
That was a real true WTF? I have no clue as to what taxi drivers have to do with this.
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Male 37,888
@BigDaddyJeff

The Bill of Rights does not list every right we have, for example, the right to privacy. {and that`s a WHOLE other depate.} So just because "marriage" is not listed in it, does not mean it doesn`t exist.

YOUR right to choose your spouse is not listed their either, do you want me to limit your choice to someone I would approve of?
What`s that you say?
It`s none of my business who you marry and I can phuck off if I don`t like it?

I think you are absolutely right.
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Male 368
@serosian
That is NOT the constitution of the United States of America.
Also, it states
Article 16.
(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family.

I see nothing about same sex there. Founding a family is the same a `be fruitful and mutliply` and two people of the saem sex can not do that.
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Male 67
@BigDaddyJeff

Your argument about fundamental rights is inherently false. Our founding fathers did not decide what our fundamental rights are. This is something society to decide. They had a hand in figuring out what some of our inalienable rights are though. But, all of or rights evolve right along side our society.
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Male 2,422
@coffee: It`s called gerrymanderin.
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Male 1,737
Something I have always wondered. If someone sounds they don`t have a grasp on the english language, than how do they get positions where understanding it is very important. Like a senator, where they have to be able to read the bill their debating.

English is a hard language, there are so many different ways to use certain words. If you can`t understand the contexts in question, than you have no idea what`s going on do you?
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Male 10
http://goo.gl/D7O2

Article 16.

`Nuff said, BigDaddyJeff. Nice try, but some people actually read. Conclusion: marriage IS a fundamental right.
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Male 368
@Gerry1of1 That is completely different as we are talking about race. A black man and a white woman are still of the same race.
So the definition of marriage being between one man and one woman, regardless of race, was still not a redefintion of marriage.

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Male 368
Where in the constitution does it say that marriage is a fundamental right?
I am checking and I can not find it anywhere.
It is not even in the Bill of Rights.
Therefore it is NOT a fundamental right.
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Male 37,888

BigDaddyJeff [quote]"How is redefining marriage a `fundamental right`?" [/quote]
When the existing laws prohibit individuals` fundamental right to choose their own spouse.
Marriage has been redefined before when blacks could not marry whites. It was established that adults had the fundamental right to choose their own partner, regardless of what other people thought about their union.

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Female 1,008
How does someone who can barely speak English become senator of the United States?
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Male 2,670
Sheesh, Diaz is a drating waste.
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Male 1,678
"Senator Diaz are you just looking at things in the room and saying you love them."

"I love taxi drivers"

"Do you really love taxi drivers or are you just saying it because saw it?"

"I love taxi drivers, I LOVE TAXI DRIVERS!!"
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Male 36,299
Oh, thanks @AJ and @Buzzard, he was trying to Filibuster it.

See? A Democrat trying to block a Gay Marriage bill...
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Male 10
The right to marriage is a fundamental right. So you`re basically asking how a a fundamental right is not a fundamental right? Senator Diaz makes more sense than you do, BigDaddyJeff.
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Male 36,299
Why, this Republican is SUCH an idiot! All those gay-hating Republicans are... wait, what? The REPUBLICANS passed the gay marriage bill in NY State? (lolz!)

And this is a DEMOCRAT spewing insanity and voting against it? (double lolz!)

This guy is just plain NUTZ!

Suckit lefties! Y`all are just plain wrong!
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Male 178
uuuuuugh........... fire him
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Male 368
Gerry1of1 How is redefining marriage a `fundamental right`?
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Male 37,888

Dimmu_Borgir [quote]"How is this guy even an elected official???" [/quote]
He campained in spanish, not english.
Truck drivers are federally required to read/speak english clearly, but politicians are not.

auburnjunky [quote]"Gay marriage has come up for PUBLIC vote 9 times in the past, in 9 different states. THE PEOPLE said no every time. Just saying. Is the New York vote the will of the people, or political posturing?"[/quote]
Fundamental rights are not a matter of popular opinion. If they were, schools and businesses would still be segregated, Jews would not be allowed in country clubs, and women would not have the vote.

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Female 143
Whaaaa???
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Male 1,249
This is why sh*t is so fu*ked - we are paying for these dumbsh*ts to have conversations like this!
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Male 10,339
Also, this was him trying to filibuster, and he failed miserably.
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Male 10,339
I read something interesting yesterday.

Gay marriage has come up for PUBLIC vote 9 times in the past, in 9 different states. THE PEOPLE said no every time.

Just saying. Is the New York vote the will of the people, or political posturing?
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Male 341
Was this a poor attempt at trying to delay the bill he would ultimately agree on or him trying to say that the bill was a waste of time. What I understood from his broken english is the latter. Minorities definitely have to find better leaders. I`m not saying there all bad but WTF.
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Male 1,053
Another wrong caption. This does not show him telling us why he is against gay marriage, and is not even showing a vote on the gay marriage bill.
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Male 378
Thanks for that Senator Diaz. Now tell me, who are you working for?
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Male 10,440
WTF was that? He`s rambling about taxis and Niagara Falls while the "president" is getting pissed for him wasting time. Am I missing something?

Is this supposed to be funny? Cause it is... kinda. Who would vote for that guy?
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Male 63
How is this guy even an elected official???

I mean are there even enough people who can understand what he`s saying and legally vote to get him elected??
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Male 19,835
Link: Senator Ruben Diaz: Votes Against Gay NY Marriage [Rate Link] - The only Democrat holdout: Senator Ruben Diaz. Here he is telling us why gay marriage in New York IS WRONG!
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