Protesters Distrupt Special Olympics Ceremony

Submitted by: Oldfrt 6 years ago in

Protesters can be real asshats sometimes.
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Male 8,416
Squrlz4Sale-"right-wing drumbeat of the past twenty years--"liberals are evil,"...is misguided and dangerous. "

While the Liberal drum beat for the same time period has been "conservatives are evil". (or, to quote Howard Dean.."They hate muslims, they hate gays, they hate immigrants.." Or Democrat Rep. Grayson "Republicans want you to die quickly".)

It`s not so much as `painting liberals with a broad brush`, as the fact that conservatives are more likely to think for themselves (not all, but a slightly higher percentage than liberals. And notice I said `almost all`, not all.).

When was the last time you heard of a group of conservative college students having a riot to keep a liberal speaker from speaking at the college?

Also, I agree whole-heartedly with all three of your statements. Those should not be `liberial/conservative` views..but common sense (which ain`t so common any more).
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Male 10,338
I agree with all three things you said. Strange how that works. Maybe we are both Libertarian lol.
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Male 6,227
@Auburn: Good post. *Sooo* many awesome things to talk about. (Damn this 1,000 character limit! lol)

A few quick points, in no particular order:
(1) I can`t speak for all liberals, but speaking for myself, I`m not interested in turning America into a Europeanesque country. What I *would* like to turn the current America into is the country it used to be in the 1960s and 1970s, when the Middle Class was growing and not shrinking, public schools were generally good, and Republicans and Democrats both seemed more interested in helping the people than helping corporations.
(2) Relative to my last post, I`m a devout Christian. I just prefer to keep my religion and my government separate. (Just wanted to get that out there.)
(3) Capitalism is a wonderful engine. I`m all for it. But it needs to be tempered with progressivism or it becomes like the game of Monopoly, where the player with an early advantage soon owns everything and everyone else is powerless.
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Male 10,338
Yeah, you could call our founding fathers the liberals of their time. Problem is, while they were growing a new country out of a bad situation, some of the progressives today, are trying to change a great country into something that has been proven to not work. (socialist) Europe is crumbling financially, but our current leadership wants nothing more than to follow in their footsteps and create a nation that is so quintessentially European, that it is doomed to go down the same path. Capitalism works. Reaganomics was working. Lower taxes work. Less government, with manageable regulatory power works.
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Male 6,227
@Auburn: Well, thanks. I respect you, too, and I really appreciated your closing post last night.

That said, I`m not at all convinced that painting any group -- conservatives, liberals, you name it -- with a broad brush is helpful, let alone necessary. In fact, I think the constant right-wing drumbeat of the past twenty years--"liberals are evil," is usually the gist of the message--is misguided and dangerous.

Although you`d never suspect it by listening to Sarah Palin or watching the Fox network, this country was *started* as a liberal experiment. Thomas Paine? As liberal as liberal can be. Benjamin Franklin? Liberal from his Deist head to his Enlightenment toes. Thomas Jefferson? Liberal with a capital L.

The conservatives at the time of our founding were the Loyalists who wanted to remain under the British monarchy and later the Congregationalists of New England who were appalled that a Constitution was drafted that makes no mention of God.
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Male 1,744
protesters usually are asshats, no matter what they`re protesting. I just usually hear "we want attention, give us attention" from anything they say or do
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Male 10,338
@Squirlz: I respect you because you can debate without emotion, and you don`t resort to name calling, but MeGrendel painting with a broad brush is necessary, because he described 95% of all progressive liberals. You are the exception to the rule my friend.
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Male 6,227
@MeGrendel: Yup, you nailed it. First thing I and other liberals do every morning, after we have that first cup of coffee, is scream "KILL THEM!!! FOR THE CHILDREN." lol

*sigh* Would it be possible for you to put down that broad brush of yours so that we could have an actual conversation and not just a rehash of Rush-Limbaugh-inspired smears?
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Male 8,416
rpmeaney-"Liberals will say its not a big deal, conservatives will say its horrible."

The difference, for the most part, is that if it`s Union Protestors interrupting the special olympics, the liberals will say `No Big Deal` and conservatives will say `it`s horrible.`, but if it`s NRA Protestors interrupting the special olympics, most conservatives will still say `it`s horrible`, but almost ALL of the liberals will say, "KILL THEM!!! FOR THE CHILDREN".

Basically, for liberals, anything done by Union members and supporters is A-OK, up to and including breaking the law.
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Male 675
There are many public functions in which the governor attends, many which are good places to stake a protest... that wasn`t one of them.
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Male 39
I read that as: Porn stars disrupt special Olympics. Imagine my disappointment.
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Male 182
The fact they protested the Special Olympics makes me wonder how "special" in the head they are.
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Male 382



Problem Solved.
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Female 2,525
In poor taste, perhaps, but at least the had the decency to stand silently instead of causing a scene.
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Male 10,338
@rpmeany: Actually, conservatives came out in support of Weiner. Liberals, who cannot find a way to spin it to their favor, are calling for his head.

@Dixxy: Pics or it didn`t happen. ;)
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Male 10,338
"people in the workplace should only make what they deserve and not what the market dictates or what they`re able to negotiate for."

Okay. The market for public transportation should NEVER dictate 125k a year, and if you agree to pay a bus driver that salary, your city will fail.

An employee deserves to be paid for what they do. If you do hard backbreaking work, or vital work, you should be paid well. If you drive a bus all day? Not so much. They came to that salary through manipulating the union environment, using seniority (not merit) to gain an advantage over their associates.
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Male 24
Liberals will say its not a big deal, conservatives will say its horrible. Same thing with the weiner story. Might as well save people the time with the comments.
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Female 2,674
Eh... it`s annoying, yes, but I don`t think it`s THAT big of deal. Kind of reminds me of one time when I flashed a van of high schooler`s on the highway (I was also in high school, immature etc). And then I realized the van said "Special Ed..." on the side. I immediately felt bad, but then I realized that they are people too. And they can handle a random drive-by slutting.

Unfortunately, that`s true story. Haha. Oh Dixxy, what`s wrong with you?
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Male 181
I`m intrigued, auburnjunky, that someone presenting themselves as a conservative would use the word `deserve` when talking about pay. You may be the only `conservative` I`ve seen who thinks people in the workplace should only make what they deserve and not what the market dictates or what they`re able to negotiate for.

...or are you the kind of hypocrite that would use an argument they wouldn`t tolerate from "liberal asshats" if they used it first?
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Male 84
oh and sorry for the double post on the thread but that one chick at the end was hot!! fap fap and so on...
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Male 84
Im from Wisconsin and this is childish. ahh the birth place of the socialist movement in the u.s started in my home town and its also the most segregated city in america. there is no longer a true need for unions anymore. probably child labor is illegal and you can sue anyone for anything in this day and age. I dont need to pay dues to have a semi annual cookout or to protect me from ebenezer scrooge either. unions are needed just as much as a knickers or penny loafers. and then to have the nfl put in there 100 million cents to support private unions. i love football but some one should tell them that they get PAID ENOUGH TO FEED AN ENTIRE COUNTRY FOR PLAYING WITH A FUDGING BALL. and so on......
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Male 266
What a bunch of non-nice individuals
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Male 143
I find the line between Union and Extortion to be quite thin.

"We will shut your company down if you do not pay us" is the same to the business owner whether is it from the employees or the mafia.
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Male 10,338
@8bithero: They were protesting the governor. He is trying to end the government union in Wisconsin, and they don`t like that too much.
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Male 10,338
@Enjin: I`ve interviewed for a few jobs that have unions. Once I hear they have them,I end the interview.

Problem is, if you elect not to join them, they harass you until you join, or until you quit.
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Male 802
Not even surprised for a second that unions would be such asshats. I was forced to join a union once, what a bunch of crooks.
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Male 5,413
I didn`t catch why they were doing it...
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Male 10,338
@squirelz: Thanks for debating in a civil fashion, and finally agreeing to disagree.

There isn`t enough of that on this site.
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Male 4,902
idiots, get a f*cking life
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Male 1,252
I swear id exercise my right to position my foot right in their nut sack el gringo style.
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Female 173
I really wonder if people can be born without a soul sometimes. :/
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Male 3,619
Squrlz4Sale, you may have gone to bed and probably won`t read this, but, about the senators that fled Wisconsin, it could be considered that they didn`t show up for work. Whenever someone in another field doesn`t show up for work without plausible cause, or advance warning and whatnot, they get fired.

Why shouldn`t we the people, the people they work for and were "hired" by hold them accountable?
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Female 374
There is a time and a place for showing off how much of a douchebag you are. During the special olympics is not a good time.
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Female 123
There is nothing like ruining a good time just to feel like you are actually doing something. Some people have no class.
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Male 3,431
What a group of non-nice individuals.
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Male 11,739
I wish somebody would have run through the crowd killing zombies. THAT would have been awesome.
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Male 8,416
Squrlz4Sale-"I consider it the latter. Or to put it another way: it is a moral act to peacefully noncomply with an immoral law."

And Democrats, of course, are the only ones qualified to determine what is `moral`, right?

*cough* *cough* "Weiner!" *cough*
*cough* *cough* "Ted Kenneday & Mary Jo Kopechne!" *cough*

Sorry, had a little sarcasm stuck in my throat.

So, just to reiterate: You`re fine with asshats breaking the law, as long as it`s YOUR asshats.

Well, at least we know where you stand.

That being said, goodnight and enjoyed the debate. We see it from different sides, but you at least are informed over what you`re debating.
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Male 6,227
@MeGrendel, 5Cats, Namikaze, and Auburnjunky:

I`m going to bed, but I wanted to say I respect your opinions on the Walker issue, and I`m hoping we can respectfully disagree.

I enjoy discussing politics with people of opposing views as long as it`s kept intelligent and civil.

Peace out.
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Male 6,227
@MeGrendel: You`re absolutely right on your first point. It was, indeed, all the Democratic state senators who left the state. Thanks for the correction.

As for breaking the law, yes, they were--but it`s a rather vague, ill-defined law: The state constitution says that either party may compel the other to attend, without specifying how or what punishment, if any, should be meted out for non-attendance. But not to muddy the waters: yes, they were breaking the law.

Dishonorable conduct or an act of civil disobedience? I consider it the latter. Or to put it another way: it is a moral act to peacefully noncomply with an immoral law.
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Male 2,390
mom and dad must be proud.
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Male 40,277
Lefty thugs in their natural environment!

How funny that they dressed as zombies! They`re mindlessly driven by hatered of Gov Walker: no reason required!

How many 3rd party events have the Tea Partiers interrupted? ZERO!

vv @MeGrendel his sky is "Union Pink" best viewed through rose-coloured glasses, eh?
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Male 8,416
Squrlz4Sale-"that kind of strong-arm approach to governing seems more like Stalinist Russia than the USA."

And by `strong-arm approach` you mean actually forcing the Dims to attend the session they are REQUIRED BY LAW to attend?

You really thing that obstructing the legal law-making process is the `right` thing to do, and that it`s alright for state elected senators to break the law, don`t you?

What color is the sky in your world? (let me guess, socialist red, right?)
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Male 8,416
Squrlz4Sale-"Yes, some of the Democratic state senators left the state."

Try ALL. They only needed ONE democratic senator to qualify for a forum.

Squrlz4Sale-"Walker`s threat to use armed state troopers to physically force them to attend the vote on his budget and thereby achieve a quorum by force"

Yes, he threatened to use LAW ENFORCEMENT officers to make them FOLLOW THE LAW. They are required, BY LAW, to attend senate sessions (unless they have requested, and received, written consent to be absent).

Clue: They were BREAKING THE LAW, and the governor was `threatening` them with forcing them to FOLLOW THE LAW. They REFUSED TO FOLLOW THE LAW because they no longer HAD THE LAW ON THEIR SIDE. So, instead of doing the correct and LAWFUL thing (i.e. attend the session as they are required, post their objections and vote against the bill), they BROKE THE LAW and ran like the p#ssies they are.
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Male 1,293
"Protesters can be real asshats sometimes"

Yep, like any time they are protesting for their own entitlements. Self-centred, so not self-aware.
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Male 121
Yay, Wisconsin is turning into a battleground.....

Foam cheese swords, anyone?
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Male 546
Nice.... PR
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Male 1,313
They should of just shot them in the head, that would have stopped them.
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Male 6,227
@MeGrendel: Yes, some of the Democratic state senators left the state. They did so in response to Walker`s threat to use armed state troopers to physically force them to attend the vote on his budget and thereby achieve a quorum by force. Maybe it`s just me, but that kind of strong-arm approach to governing seems more like Stalinist Russia than the USA.

Interestingly enough, the most famous instance of taking flight to to avoid a quorum was that of Abraham Lincoln, a Republican, who once crawled out a window before a vote.
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Male 222
Liberalists are pushing for a Civil War in Wisconsin. But they refuse to meet us on the battlefield. The challenge has been made and they backed down like little bitches.
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Male 1,737
I`m guessing by the fat zombies response, their just zombie sheep with no clue what`s really going on.
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Male 8,416
Squrlz4Sale-" they saw this as an opportunity to discredit the protesters."

The protesters didn`t need anyone else to descredit them, they did just fine on their own.

And about your other post...pretty one-sided description of what`s going on. You `forgot` the part of the `Wisconsin Dims` (democratic senators) who fled the state to thwart the will of the majority of voters of Wisconsin. Because they lost the election and no long held power in the senate, they decided that running like the p#ssy`s they were and shutting down the process was the only way they could satisfy their Union Masters (and contributors).

`Progressives` called them heros. Sane people called them chickenpoo. Seems democrats only feel like following the law when it`s on their side. EVERY time you hear about one party fleeing the state to obstruct legislation, it`s always the Democrats.
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Male 321
I think the riot squad should be given permission to beat people in these situations. Same for funeral protesters. What a bunch of assclowns.
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Male 605
Well I, for one, was glad his daddy talked to him like that.
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Male 97
Why zombies though?
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Male 10,338
Put it another way: Bus Drivers do not deserve $125k in salary, ever, under any circumstance, regardless of years of service.
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Male 10,338
@squirlz: Well, you may not fall into the same camp as Obama and his supporters, but to them, progressive = regressive. What I mean is, they are trying to tear down what makes this country great because they want us to be more European with our policies. Things like universal forcing of health care, and taking from the rich and giving to the undeserving. These things do not work, especially since we don`t have the money to MAKE it work.

All the Governor of Wisconsin was trying to do, is force the ultra-corrupt and non essential union to break apart, because Wisconsin cannot afford to sustain it any longer. They will bankrupt that great state, and it will become Michconnisotanois.
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Male 1,931
There`s a time and place. Yes, them doing this is drawing attention to their cause. But there is a time, and there is a place. That is not it.
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Male 6,227
@Ontario: They`re protesting the policies of Wisconsin`s Republican governor, Scott Walker. Immediately after taking office, Walker announced that he would fire thousands of state employees if they do not give up the right to collectively bargain. (That`s when a group of employees stand together and threaten to strike over an issue of wages or working conditions.) The workers` unions countered by offering wage cuts that would meet the fiscal targets of Walker`s budget, but Walker refused their offer, making clear that this is an issue of breaking unions and not one of balancing budgets.

Walker has dug in his heels, and the protestors, for their part, have vowed to demonstrate against Walker by turning their backs on him at every public appearance he makes, without exception.

That every-event policy led them to demonstrate at this Special Olympics event, and the right-wing MacIver Institute recognized this as an opportunity to discredit the protestors.
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Male 552
There`s a time and place for everything guys...
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Male 2,424
@lazyme

Sorry, the masses don`t all consult Labossiere`s theories when making decisions. In the end it`s a PR blunder.
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Male 229
My question is: What is the reason for this protest?
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Male 6,227
@auburn: I don`t understand the comment. (Not being snarky here, I`m just not sure what you mean.) Two quick points: (1) From your earlier posts, I get the sense you think liberals are inherently bad somehow, which I don`t understand. (I`m not only a liberal, but a progressive.) (2) I`ve never been a fan of Rahm Emanuel. Obama`s appointment of him was one of the first signs that Obama was turning his back on the people that elected him.
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Male 10,338
@squirlz: It doesn`t matter why they singled this event out, because;

"You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it`s an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." - Rahm Emanuel

;)
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Male 25,417
A holes indeed
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Male 370
that`s retarded
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Male 6,227
(Flame war in 3... 2... 1... LOL)
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Male 6,227
The "MacIver Institute" is a right-wing propaganda machine financed by corporations hostile to the rights of the middle class and unions. The only reason the MacIver Institute "cares" about the Special Olympians is because they saw this as an opportunity to discredit the protesters. Just sayin`.
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Male 10,338
@Lazy: They were liberals protesting the Governor trying to balance Wisconsin`s budget.
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Male 10,338
Time and place, liberal asshats.

One of the words in that sentence explains their actions, and it isn`t Time, and, place, or asshats.
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Male 875
what was the point?
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Male 10,440
[quote] how to not win your argument, step one- Interfere with the special Olympics. [/quote]
step two - logical fallacy: appeal to emotion
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Male 10,440
I`m not passing any judgement until I hear the other side of the story...

Stupid media can`t get anything right. If there were many protesters then isn`t that worth asking why they were protesting?

That aside, this reminded me of PETA.
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Male 2,424
how to not win your argument, step one- Interfere with the special Olympics.
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Male 7,811
there is a time and place for protesting. at a special olympics event....thats a poor choice.
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Male 177
"asshat" is really putting it lightly.
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Female 57
"meh daddie use ta taulk ta me lak that..." yeah, look how you turn out. also, protesting the gov., fine, but you had to do it at during special olympics??? wtf?!? non-nice individuals
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Male 1,440
there is a time and a place for everything... this is not the time nor the place for these protesters.
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Male 1,083
backfire.
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Male 749
Link: Protesters Distrupt Special Olympics Ceremony [Rate Link] - Protesters can be real asshats sometimes.
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