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Date: 06/02/11 10:32 AM

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  1. Profile photo of hovalady411
    hovalady411 Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 10:33 am
    Link: Hey Slacker, Can`t Get A Job? Try Harder - And `I don`t have experience` isn`t an excuse.
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    Rick_S Male 40-49
    3290 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 10:44 am
    How do you volunteer in IT? If my degree is in IT, and I want to stay in that field, volunteering won`t do crap.
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    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 10:44 am
    In don`t know about anyone else, but I work because I need money. Volunteering does not accomplish the "making of money." This post fails.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    June 2, 2011 at 10:48 am
    That`s what I did, many years ago, to get some Daycare experience! Now I`m an expert childcareworker!
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    freddyferret Male 40-49
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    June 2, 2011 at 10:53 am
    OpsAss13 and Rick_S both nailed it. You can`t volunteer in every field, and most people need money for silly little things like food, shelter, clothes, etc. This is a stupid post.
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    erkika Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 10:56 am
    Trust me, volunteering doesn`t matter to most employers. I have an honours degree in math, couldn`t get a job, volunteered doing database management and biostatistics for HC, and I STILL have to work in fast food.
    All that matters is who you know.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 10:57 am
    Are there volunteer jobs in game design, or aeronautical engineering?

    No? Okay.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:01 am
    @OpsAss13

    "In don`t know about anyone else, but I work because I need money. Volunteering does not accomplish the "making of money." This post fails."

    Volunteering provides you with experience.
    Experience provides you with a job.
    A job provides you with money.

    Volunteering -> experience -> job -> money.

    Volunteering -> money.

    Volunteering.

    Money.

    Volunteering.

    Money.

    ...

    ...

    ...

    Get it yet?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:03 am
    @auburnjunky

    "Are there volunteer jobs in game design, or aeronautical engineering?"

    If you`re unemployed, you shouldn`t be looking for just those kinds of high-flying job.

    You should be looking for ANY job.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:07 am
    I suspect the sentiments expressed by a few here ("you can`t volunteer in suchandsuch a field") exposes a real truth about the unemployment rates we`re experiencing: when people say "I can`t find a job", I suspect they often mean "I can`t find a job I LIKE."

    Collect unemployment benefit, job hunt and volunteer whilst feeding yourself with said benefit, get a job scrubbing toilets or working a factory line...THEN try to find the perfect job.

    If you`re unemployed and feeding yourself with other people`s money, you should be taking any crummy job you can GET, not being picky and just searching for the nice job that you want. Search for that luxury on your own dime.
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
    1231 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:18 am
    @erkika
    "All that matters is who you know."
    very true to an extent; getting a job can often depend on who you know or for someone you don`t know to give you an opportunity. But then go to the right places and you may meet the right people; i.e networking events. I`m in a similar situation to yourself.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:27 am
    OpsAss13-"In don`t know about anyone else, but I work because I need money."

    Find ANY job that makes money, and volunteer in your spare time for the line of work you would LIKE to work in?

    What? You expected to get your dream job making six figures right out of school? With no experience?

    It`s as if most people with college degrees are above manual labor. I mean, they have that Liberal Arts Master Degree in Aboriginal Macramé Pot-holder making and can’t understand why they can’t get a high-paying job in that field. It must be the economy/republicans/rich white people’s fault.

    Sorry, you`re not guaranteed a job. You have to work for it. A boss is going to pick the one with the most experience. The trick is, get the experience, however possible. The whole, "I ain`t lifting a finger with pay" attitude will result in a life a `Would you like fries with that?"
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    micthefish Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:32 am
    Musuko42
    How about keeping your right wing tory opinions to yourself...drating sick of reading your poo!
  14. Profile photo of ShadowVamp
    ShadowVamp Female 18-29
    362 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:32 am
    I disagree with this picture. I`ve spent three years volunteering at a dog rescue`s adoption days, where I have to build rapport with potential adopters and help them find the best animal to fit their lifestyle and family. I`ve spent six years volunteering at my taekwondo school, where I have to lead students, have meetings with their parents, convince them to sign up for seminars, run the cash register, and deal with all of the office paperwork from events and sales. This is all on my resume, but I`ve been unable to get even a simple cashier job because according to employers, I have no experience with sales or interacting with customers. Volunteering != Job.
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    CCMA_19 Female 18-29
    311 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:34 am
    screw volunteering, i need money
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:35 am
    erkika-“ I have an honours degree in math.”

    So, that means you showed up for class. Got any work experience to put on your resume?

    The volunteer work in database management and biostatistics for HC is good experience, unless their experience with you led them to believe that you aren’t a viable employee.

    With an honours degree in math, have you thought about volunteering at a school? Possibly tutoring? Could gain valuable experience towards becoming a teacher.

    Or would you rather complain that ‘there ain’t no jobs!’ or ‘all that matters is who you know’?
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    ATL1EN Male 18-29
    622 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:37 am
    sorry but its been hard for me to not have a job the past 10 years.... wtf are these peoples problem. to proud to go to mcdonalds?
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:38 am
    CCMA_19-“screw volunteering, i need money”

    ANY job will provide money. A BETTER job will provide BETTER money.

    You get a BETTER job by having BETTER experience (and a good work ethic).

    You gain BETTER experience by any means possible (yes, that means occasionally working for no pay).

    “Screw volunteering” is the same as saying “Screw improving my experience” and the same thing is “Screw BETTER job” & “Screw BETTER money”.

    Not putting in the effort in the risk is the difference between someone who ‘has a job’ and someone who ‘has a career.
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    malikymoo Female 18-29
    2028 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:39 am
    oh, thats where im going wrong....
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    snunicycler Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:45 am
    Works better if you volunteer in the field you want a job in. I did graphic design for free to build my portfolio. Now im a designer, if you want to teach math, tutor. If you want to be a vet, volunteer at a animal shelter, it still takes a lot of effort, no one is just handing out jobs.
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    symmachus Male 30-39
    24 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:50 am
    "It`s as if most people with college degrees are above manual labor."

    What evidence do have for that half-arsed brain fart? All through my university years I paid for school with work in the labor field. Most of the people who worked beside me were university students trying to make ends meet. Oops!

    "I mean, they have that Liberal Arts Master Degree in Aboriginal Macramé Pot-holder making and can’t understand why they can’t get a high-paying job in that field."

    Oh yeah, it`s only liberal arts students who are a glut to the workforce. What about the vast overkill of business students? Welder apprentices who figure that they have the right to a huge wage because they just got their ticket?
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    Tacos4Brkfst Male 18-29
    620 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:58 am
    Cant get a job?

    Make one.
    Hell, make multiple jobs.
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    Brassbull Male 30-39
    1610 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:08 pm
    [quote">wtf are these peoples problem. to proud to go to mcdonalds?[/quote">

    I`m just guessing here, but these might be why...

    Reason #1
    Reason #2
    Reason #3
    Reason #4
    Reasons #5-19
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    wheresmyskul Male 40-49
    247 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    Whoa! Whoa, people! There is one statement that explains everything here:

    Every stinkin` one of us who holds a job today, started out in the exact same situation that the naysayers on this post are in.

    Having said that though, DOES volunteering help with the resume? I ask, because I don`t know.
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    HumboldtPie Male 18-29
    311 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    @Brassbull

    i lold
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25420 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    That was pretty lame
  27. Profile photo of ShadowVamp
    ShadowVamp Female 18-29
    362 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    @wheresmyskul: Hasn`t helped me.
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    Lukgeezy Male 18-29
    606 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    its easy... Just act and dress the part, look like ur supposed to be there... PPl have no work ethic anymore.. its really sad!
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    obscureabyss Female 18-29
    10 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:24 pm
    The problem is that volunteering costs time. Time that could be used working to make money. When you`re poor, you can`t spend time volunteering if you`re working paycheck to paycheck.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    symmachus - “What evidence do have for that half-arsed brain fart? Most of the people who worked beside me were university students”
    That would be because you were working around a university..Just about all service jobs around a university are manned by students.

    I, too, had to work to put myself through college. And work jobs I really didn’t want until I gained enough experience (by doing volunteer work) in the field I wanted to work in.

    What evidence? Just many applicants with degrees looking for a job, who won’t work shift-work, won’t work weekends, won’t lift more than 20lbs, etc. (after all, they have a ‘degree’..they should be hired in as company president). I’ll take a lab-tech with 10 years’ experience and no degree over a recent grad any day of the week.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    symmachus “it`s only liberal arts students who are a glut to the workforce.”

    Maybe the workforce at Applebee’s.

    symmachus “Welder apprentices who figure that they have the right to a huge wage because they just got their ticket”

    If you live in a shipbuilding town, a welder with a brand new certification is worth a lot more than someone with a new Music Therapy Degree.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:36 pm
    Wheresmyskul-“Having said that though, DOES volunteering help with the resume?”

    Nice, sensible question. Answer: Yes.

    I originally went to school as a commercial artist. The bottom dropped out of the market for layout artists about the time I graduated.

    SO, I took a job as a lab tech, worked my way up to Research Chemist.

    The entire time I did volunteer work: Desktop publishing, logo design, t-shirt design, props, etc…basically anything art related that someone needed done. It went on my resume and added to my portfolio.

    Three years ago I left research to accept a job as a label designer for a major corporation. I was offered the job based on my portfolio, my experience in both the chemistry and commercial art, and my work ethic.

    It took me 15 years to get a job in the field I set out to enter, but I gained valuable experience on the way. Much of that was due to volunteer work. (and I continue my volunte
  33. Profile photo of BemaJinn
    BemaJinn Male 18-29
    19 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    Volunteering is all well and good.... if you can afford to eat while you`re doing it!
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    Ska_Machine Male 13-17
    153 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Hey MeGrendel, go publish a book while you`re at it :P
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    The_Garuness Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    That`s why i just applied for jobs i was experienced in.
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    hatface Male 18-29
    605 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:20 pm
    Well, it worked for me.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
    10441 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:21 pm
    I have a job and experience, yet there is no such label in this picture! I am beyond it! Muahahahaha
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    human_exile Male 13-17
    875 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:22 pm
    and the cycle has ended
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    SarahofBorg Female 18-29
    3564 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:41 pm
    Oh sure, I`m going to work 40 hours a week for free "experience" instead of actually making money in a crappy job that I could use to pay for college. And don`t think that simply because you`re willing to work for free means you`re qualified to do anything significant for free.
    Of course, if you don`t need money ever than this works out just fine.
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    Kureigu Male 18-29
    37 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    How to LIE. Lie in your C.V, lie in your application, lie at interviews. nobody that get a job tells the whole truth, most of the time.
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    alliknow Female 18-29
    155 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:15 pm
    As if, the amount of free work I have applied for and got no where. Even the volunteering needs experience, it`s a piece of shoite.
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    wheresmyskul Male 40-49
    247 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:40 pm
    That is interesting, MeGrendel. I am a mananger who hires personnel on my crew, and I haven`t seen any apps with volunteer experience. I suppose if faced with it, I would ask the appropriate questions to gauge their knowledge of the industry gleaned from said volunteerism. To me, experience is experience if it yields capability.

    BUT! If I don`t get off the internet, I`m gonna be one of those touting his experience to a hiring manager.
  43. Profile photo of OpsAss13
    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:49 pm
    Musuko- I have a family. Volunteering is not going to provide them with a house and food. I made the decision to have a family so I must deal with my decision (If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn`t change a thing). I understand experience leads to a better job but MOST people need money now not 5 years down the road. Get my point?????
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
    1231 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    surely doing volunteer work with a company will earn you their trust and prove that you are a hard working and capable individual. Any managers tend to agree with this? 4 years ago I worked in a warehouse for 40 hours a week, then did another 40 hours every weekend at festivals. I still get work with that company now, largely based on that.
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    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    Also Musuko-

    "If you`re unemployed and feeding yourself with other people`s money, you should be taking any crummy job you can GET"

    You are contradicting yourself. How can you volunteer and not live off of other people? Please think your thoughts through before making yourself look stupid.
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    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
    930 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    Need experience? Go find a job that says you don`t and work it until you have a job history to speak of and then change jobs.... Sick of people arguing this when there are lots of jobs that require no experience. I don`t car if they pay crap because you have to work your way up to better pay no matter what you do. That is life.
  47. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    wheresmyskul - "I haven`t seen any apps with volunteer expience."

    Granted, there is no abolute answer for every situation. It all depends on the type of work you`re looking for and what volunteer work you`re performing.

    Interested in commercial art, I tended toward voluteer work in that area. A booklet for a rehab agency, a silk-screened jacket, flyers, even tattoo desgin, gave me experience that went on my resume.

    Other volunteer work I performed did not apply, so did not go on my resume (props for local theater and choirs, face painting, building wheelchair ramps, etc).

    My daughter is in school to be a vet. She spends summers volunteering a vet offices. Obviously, being able to say "I`ve assisten in small animal surgeries" and "I have lots of experienced handling livestock" looks good on her apps.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    OpsAss13-"I understand experience leads to a better job but MOST people need money now not 5 years down the road. Get my point?????"

    It`s not and `either/or` situation. You can earn money now AND also work towards a preferred job/salary at the same time.

    No one`s said to give up on to obtain the other.

    Some people work full time jobs (or more) and still manage to pick up experience in other fields. But I`ve found most people don’t want to put in the effort, it maight take away from their evening and weekend beer drinking.

    And volunteering (or extra training/schooling) NOW may well mean a better house and food for your family further down the road.

    If you`re happy with where you`re at, that has worked for you. Some people are not, but would rather complain that put in the effort to make better opportunities.
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 3:56 pm
    I know plenty of people who DO have experience and are having a hell of a time finding work. It`s a good time to be in school.
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    kribbe Male 18-29
    2006 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    i could get a job any time i wanted, i`m waiting because i`m going to get more experience
  51. Profile photo of tn11
    tn11 Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:07 pm
    I have done tons of volunteer work, and I put it on my resumes, but it doesn`t seem to make a difference.
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    AngryYouth Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    I work and go to school and maintain a 3.5gpa, so "I can`t work because I`m going to school" is a weak excuse.
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    ShadowVamp Female 18-29
    362 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    @Corpsecrank: Let me know where to find those. I`ve been looking for a job to work my way through college for well over a year now. Every place I`ve seen hiring wants years of sales experience just to earn minimum wage. As I mentioned in a previous comment, I have six years of sales experience from volunteering, but because it wasn`t a formal job, hiring managers don`t give a fLIck. The only position I`ve found that doesn`t require experience at all was one waitressing position, which I couldn`t apply for because in this state I`m not legally old enough to serve alcohol.
  54. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:20 pm
    @micthefish

    "How about keeping your right wing tory opinions to yourself...drating sick of reading your poo!"

    I`m a lifelong Labour supporter. So...well done there.

    Personal accountability isn`t the preserve of the right-wing, no matter how much they like to claim it is.

    The social safety net is there to help you with your needs, not with your wants: you need a job, any job, but you WANT a rewarding, satisfying, pleasant job.

    Otherwise, we`d all live on unemployment benefit until we can land that sex, beer and chocolate inspector job.
  55. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    @OpsAss13

    "I have a family. Volunteering is not going to provide them with a house and food."

    Nobody is suggesting you volunteer instead of working. You volunteer in your spare time, to build experience, or you volunteer when you don`t have work in order to help you get it.

    "You are contradicting yourself. How can you volunteer and not live off of other people?"

    You volunteer whilst living off other people in order to help you land a job, any job, accepting the crummy ones, that`ll stop you living off other people sooner than you would otherwise. Or, you volunteer at the same time as working the crummy job, in order to help you get out of the crummy job and into a nicer one.

    Is that so hard to understand?
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    zombunny Female 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:28 pm
    Good luck paying your bills while doing volunteer work.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:35 pm
    It`s more about who you know than what you know. I`ve gotten most of my jobs with no experience, friend of a friend is more than enough.
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    Rawrg Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 4:57 pm
    Job market sucks right now. Well, unless you`re an employer because now you can hire someone who is way overqualified for entry level pay in a lot of fields.

    Volunteering is a great way to get experience, but more importantly, you get to know people. It makes it easier whenever the company you`re volunteering for has to fill a position, because they already have gotten to know you.
  59. Profile photo of OpsAss13
    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 5:33 pm
    Musuko- Did you look at the pic? The final step says "Congratulations-you now have experience GO FIND A JOB." It doesn`t say "Congratulations-you now have more experience quit your crummy job and find a better one." I am commenting on the pic. I am not going off on random tangents. No where in the pic does it say BETTER JOB. poo, why is this so hard for you to understand?
  60. Profile photo of Grendel
    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 6:11 pm
    zombunny-“Good luck paying your bills while doing volunteer work.”

    Some people seem to be under the mistaken impression that it’s impossible to hold a job and do volunteer work at the same time.

    In fact, it’s entirely possible to work, go to school AND perform volunteer work.

    The idea is that, if you can’t get a job in the field you like due to lack of experience and/or education, you find one that will pay bills, and work at increasing experience and/or education.

    If you’re not willing to do that, then you’re really not interested in that field, you just want to b!tch about the ‘lack of opportunities’.

    Success takes EFFORT.


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    tehbionic Female 18-29
    313 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 6:51 pm
    I can`t physically handle going to school, and work, and volunteer all at once, or even just two of them. Sucks being the sickly type.
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    GParadox Female 18-29
    737 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 7:49 pm
    ... Sadly most of my jobs were given to me through friends... no experience required :/
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    BetterBob Male 18-29
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    June 2, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    "I can`t physically handle going to school, and work, and volunteer all at once, or even just two of them. Sucks being the sickly type."

    Well, isn`t it too bad for you that you were born.
  64. Profile photo of OpsAss13
    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 8:00 pm
    Grendel- The post is titled "Can`t get a job." It isn`t "Can`t get a job in your chosen field." This post was OBVIOUSLY meant for the unemployed. Why the drat can`t some people get a drating clue on something so damn OBVIOUS.
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    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 8:05 pm
    BetterBob- What a drating douche you are. I empathize with tehbionic as I have a1ad and am in complete renal and liver failure. I go to dialysis 3 days a week but pretty much can`t do poo for about 6 days a week. There are people that have an illness that prevent alot of activity. I am sorry not everyone can be born as perfect as your ass. Do the world a favor and put a bullet in your head.
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    keith2 Male 30-39
    2589 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 9:01 pm
    I can`t find a job because I have no experience --> I want to do party drugs drink alot and be around naked chicks all day -----> Intern at IAB

    Congratulations
    You were arrested when the place got raided. You were the scapegoat.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
    1310 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 9:06 pm
    wow, you twats have been all busy bitching at each other all day over this stupid crap. You all need to heed this and get your asses a job.
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    BetterBob Male 18-29
    168 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    "I am sorry not everyone can be born as perfect as your ass. Do the world a favor and put a bullet in your head."

    Good idea. All healthy people commit suicide.

    Have fun with your world of cripples. Not sure where your food or healthcare is going to come from though.
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    inversegrav Male 30-39
    770 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 9:19 pm
    well there is a matter of what you want to do. They dont take volunteers at a chemical laboratory. So would doing volunteer work help a graduate with a chemistry degree?
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    mmill928 Female 18-29
    275 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    inversegray - are you saying that there is no such thing as a volunteer chemistry tutor? How about volunteering at your school`s chem department? I`m sure they need help with storage and all that.
  71. Profile photo of OpsAss13
    OpsAss13 Male 30-39
    514 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 10:49 pm
    "Good idea. All healthy people commit suicide. "

    I didn`t say this at all. You really need to learn how to read. I just meant you. You and you alone should put a bullet in your head. Understand? YOU ONLY.
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    Liquidglass Male 18-29
    1111 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 11:09 pm
    @ MeGrendel


    I agree, it always takes effort. And if you don`t have a job and can`t pay your bills already, what`s the problem with volunteering to help yourself get a (better) job down the road?


    I know this won`t matter to most people reading this. But that in fact was Abraham Lincoln`s advice to three men that complained to him they couldn`t find a job during the dark economic days of his presidency. He told them to volunteer doing what they could in their neighborhood and employment would seek them. And it did ;)
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    micthefish Male 30-39
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    June 2, 2011 at 11:34 pm
    Musuko42 @
    I`m a lifelong Labour supporter. So...well done there......as I said `keep your right wing tory opinions to yourself....`
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    surprisefire Female 18-29
    28 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 12:55 am
    Auburnjunky `Are there volunteer jobs in game design, or aeronautical engineering?

    No? Okay.`

    Nope. There`s something even better for those positions. It`s called co-op and it`s like volunteering, except it`s run through your university and, the best part, you get paid for it! Then once you graduate you get this awesome little thing on your diploma that says you do have experience in that field and, from what I`ve heard anyone, who graduates with co-op experiences gets picked up right away mostly by the company they co-oped with. Those who don`t go through co-op are the ones who most likely don`t get a job.
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    bankvole Male 30-39
    959 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 1:14 am
    and what are people supposed to live on when they volunteer or do a slave-like internship?
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 2:01 am
    I just make a decent CV. But for those using that excuse above. Volunteer is a good method. But no pay.... :/
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    miasmaat Female 18-29
    298 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 4:44 am
    In my country - if you volunteer you will not get any government assistance. hence - you will yourself soon become homeless and dependant on the assistance of volunteers.
    Crappy policy but there you have it. If you are unemployed - you are legally forbidden from seeking unpaid internships or charity work.

    (country is New Zealand, incidentally.)

    Then I guess there`s also the other side of the issue. If you are qualified (x million degrees and scholarships) and lack any experience in your academic field and are NOT 23 years old - it doesnt matter if you volunteer in some charity or take a mcjob or beg for an unpaid internship (which will last a month or so at the most) - you will still not be able to compete with the tens to hundreds of thousands of HIGHLY qualified and experienced people who have been laid off and are flooding the job market. Why take a graduate analyst for anything whatsoever when you can take an intermediate one with five years experience?!
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    SashaTheBrit Female 18-29
    45 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 6:26 am
    Is it sad that when I saw "Hey Slacker" I thought of Devin Townsend`s "Tall Latte" from his album "Ziltoid the Omniscient"?
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    ZiggZagg Male 13-17
    243 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 6:28 am
    I like to be payed for any work I do, thanks.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 7:06 am
    OpsAss12-"The post is titled "Can`t get a job."."

    Anyone who can`t get ANY job is either a seriously crappy worker, or unwilling to work jobs that are `beneath` them. Neither of those people are worth spending any time worrying about, or any tax money on.

    There are plenty of jobs that require no experience (thus, are not covered by the sign). Of course, they are crappy paying jobs, as any trained monkey can do them (thus, the `no experience require`). the idea is to use these jobs to gain work experience and qualify for a better job (on that requires experience). If you`re 40 and still stuck flipping burgers, congratulations, you have no marketable job skills.

    The sign obvisoulsy points out that there is another way to get experience for a job that requires experience.
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    patchgrabber Male 30-39
    5812 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 7:34 am
    "the idea is to use these jobs to gain work experience and qualify for a better job "

    Your argument is invalid. Working at a gas station or McDonald`s does not give you APPROPRIATE experience for jobs that require other skills. I doubt an employer in the sciences or criminal justice field care too much that you "worked da nite shift at kinkos." Also, many places do not accept volunteers based on the nature of the job, and even I found it difficult to find a job in my field even though I did student work exchange programs and an undergraduate research project that gave me experience IN MY FIELD.
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    AvatarJohn Male 30-39
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    June 3, 2011 at 8:23 am
    Watch The Pursuit of Happyness. That`s how it`s done in a free society with boundless opportunity. You work your ass off for little to no money and when you`ve proven yourself to be indispensible, that`s when you get rewarded. When we get back to that and away from the golden hammock of an out-of-control, oppressive, nanny-state government, that`s when the US will become great again.
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    Quackor Male 18-29
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    June 3, 2011 at 8:42 am
    yes, because working for free is a great way to starve to death
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 9:23 am
    patchgrabber-"Working at a gas station or McDonald`s does not give you APPROPRIATE experience for jobs that require other skills."

    Yes it does. Any work experience qualifies as experience. If for no other reason to demonstrate whether or not you are capable of holding a job.

    Either job will reflect (and help build) your work ethic, your dependability and your ability to work with and for others.

    A potential employer will look at your work history for many things. If your resume/application reflects that you`ve worked at a gas station for a good length of time, the employer may very well think `Well, he can hold a job, and his former boss wanted to keep him on. Good qualities.`.

    If, on the other hand, your resume shows you changing jobs every week, that employer will probably thing `This guy can`t hold a job. Must have crappy people/work skills`.

    Either job, also, will pay the bills while you gain education/experience on the sid
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    nny156 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 10:02 am
    i dont know of many tech companies that take "volunteers"

    this method really only works for fire departments other then that its all about who you know and kinda about your degree.
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    nny156 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 10:09 am
    really MeGrendal.....really...
    if you worked at a gas station for a long time it only shows you know how to pump gas or ring up snacks thats not sufficient work experience for ANY job that will pay your bills.

    and its actually better to have more jobs on your resume showing you`ve had more experience then the jerkoff who pumped gas all his life (which by the way is actually seen as a sign of apathy and unwillingness to work your way up in the world.)

    so patchgrabber is correct working at some crappy job all your life is not in any way going to give you job experience for a real job. nobodies ever gone from mcdonalds to law firm you have to work up the ladder to get there and working multiple jobs is part of that.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 10:32 am
    nny156-"really MeGrendal.....really..."

    Yes, really. As someone who has sat in on boards that evaluate applicants, yes, really.

    Holding a job at a gas station for a time demostrated to me you could hold a job.

    Having many jobs is not a problem, unless those 20 jobs you held were all in the same year. That just demonstrates that you can NOT hold a job (and will not be considered)

    Given two applicants with identical education, one fresh out of school with no work history and one with a good work history (even if it`s outside the field) I will (and have) pick the one that has demonstrated they can hold a job.

    We always consider work history. We`d rather hire a person who may have a little less education but has a good work history than one with a little more education with no work history. That`s the reality.

    When advertising for a job, we ask for `Education, or `x-many` years working in this field...and a good work histo
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    liklepip Female 18-29
    136 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    actually working in places like mcdonalds does offer experience you just ave tonthink of it differently,
    how to speak to people? How to be nice to non-nice individuals etc.. thats a skill. Working under pressure, when 11 hits and full menu opens up i mean theres a lot of fat poeple to feed and fast, health and hygene, i`ve actually run out now but you do get some experience though
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    FaLa620 Male 30-39
    80 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 5:47 pm
    This doesn`t really work for most people. If you`re in school, then sure, it might be a good idea. But if you`re done with school and you`re in the "real world" you have to think about bills - rent, utilities, car, etc... who can afford to put all of that on hold while you spend all of your time working at a job that doesn`t pay? Volunteering is great for people in school, or those with rich relatives that will pay your bills while you`re out making the world a better place. But for the rest of us, it`s really not an option.
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    Grendel Male 40-49
    6248 posts
    June 3, 2011 at 7:47 pm
    FaLa620-"who can afford to put all of that on hold while you spend all of your time working at a job that doesn`t pay?"

    Again, it is not an either/or situation. You don`t have to give up a paying job in order to volunteer, or to go to school or to further your skills.

    I`ve worked more than full time for over 25 years. In that time I`ve attended school full time, I`ve volunteered countless hours and just recently attended college classes just because there was a skill I wanted to learn because I thought it would help my current job (paid for it myself and I didn`t miss a bit of work).

    No one is saying put anything on hold. Do what it takes to pay bills, but you`ll still have time to further your education and/or volunteer.

    Of course, it will mean giving up some of your computer and video game time..and I realize that that`s just unreasonable to some people. (of course, this is the same people that complain of lack of opportunities)
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    Crizzy777 Male 18-29
    112 posts
    June 4, 2011 at 6:33 pm
    Haha well okay in this case I`m going to volunteer at the management departement at the noblest bank nearby... I work there 3months for free and after that they even might hire me!
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
    3001 posts
    June 5, 2011 at 4:27 pm
    this is actually what i did! i do mechanical engineering and volunteered for two placements for 2 months each summer and now everyone wants me :D
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    KitFox Female 30-39
    595 posts
    June 5, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    Ya`ll just need to read InternNation

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