Food Pyramid Is Now Replaced With A Food Plate

Submitted by: skypirate 6 years ago in
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/03/business/03plate.html

What do you think, I-A-B? Setps in the right direction or a $2 million Obama-inspired waste?
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Male 6,693
What ever.
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Female 4,039
This is so incredibly stupid. I can`t even get over what a waste of time and money this is.
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Male 2
Protein clearly means meat to a young person, as well as most people who are not versed in the nuances of nutrition...
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Male 2
I made an account after years of just passively reading I-A-B because of this ridiculous argument. Now, I know full well that this is the internet and that arguments are by default blown out of proportion because people can hide behind their screen names, but this is just out of hand.

People, this is meant for VERY YOUNG CHILDREN. Mrs. Obama is not trying to tell an obese 40 year-old that he must have half veggies and fruits. Primary colors and simple geometric shapes work brilliantly for the target audience.

Yes, we are all talented graphic designers and could make that image for the low price of $2. Even if this were possible, the Agriculture Department must now distribute this new campaign to MILLIONS of children across the entire country. So yes, in your small town, $2 mil may be a lot but for less than $1 per child we can try to make an impact on individual lives, not to mention the incredible healthcare costs of obese Americans.

Also, PROTEIN clearly me
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Male 15,510
I hope this helps America
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Male 7,378
How fat are you CJ?
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Male 1,582
Someone tell that twat to cut it the drat out. I`m not okay with changing things I learned as a child... Hell, next they`re going to try telling me that Pluto isn`t a planet.
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Male 2,850
Again, this is probably something along the lines of warning labels on products: if they`ve warned you, you can`t hold them liable when you go against the warning and hurt yourself.

If the government has plainly told you how you can avoid getting fat, and you don`t heed that advice and get fat, then you can`t turn around and blame the government for your obesity.

This $2 million is probably saving them a lot in future lawsuits, and possibly even giving mandate for recouping some of the huge medical costs of obesity by taxing/charging money from the obese for the huge drain on tax funds their medical needs cause.

Though I don`t agree with doing that, you can see why they might do it.
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Male 2,850
@CrakrJak

"Obama wolfed down two chili dogs and fries, Link with pics, the day after his wife reveals `food plate` guide."

He`s not a fatso. He doesn`t need the plate to tell him how to structure his diet.

Millions of your citizens, and mine, apparently DO: because they seem hopeless at figuring it out for themselves.
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Male 80
seeing as obesity is a huge problem in america and considering all options available to address this it is probably the best way that the government can. it was either do this or start treating food like alcohol i.e. its the responsibility of the bartender or in this case chef to cut someone off when they have had to much. considering how much his political opponents love to complain that our freedoms as americans are under "attack" this was the logical choice. or we could let nature do its work and have all the fat folks suffocate in themselves hopefully before they find another person about engulf themselves in themselves and procreate.
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Male 17,511
LazyMe: Still, Obama is either setting an awful example, or it`s just more proof how much of a hypocrite he is.

Not that Michelle is much better, She hides her gut behind all those wide belts
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Male 10,440
[quote] Obama wolfed down two chili dogs and fries [/quote]
Last time I checked, Obama wasn`t obese.

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Male 10,440
2 million dollars is peanuts.

It`s not worth the time of an anti-obama anti-spending fool to complain how this is wasteful spending when there are so many other actual means by which you are throwing money away.

I don`t really care that they did this one way or another.

If you want to combat obesity, this is not how you do it.

If you assume fat people are stupid, they won`t follow this guide and continue their high fat, sedentary lifestyle.

If you assume far people aren`t stupid, you might as well explain ALL the facts. For example, the impact on the economy, healthcare expenses etc. instead of this simplified plate, which doesn`t do much as different people need different diets.

On top of this people don`t like being told what to do.

Final bit of advice: charge fat people twice for two seats on planes and such.
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Male 587
Paleo is the way to go! Eat like a caveman and live longer and healthier.
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Male 229
Changing the design of something like that doesn`t change someone`s eating habits.
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Male 17,511
Obama wolfed down two chili dogs and fries, Link with pics, the day after his wife reveals `food plate` guide.
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Male 25,416
O how the times have changed
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Male 1,598
Hey, this is money going in to (try and) help make America healthier, rather than buying MOAR GUNS `N TANKS for the Middle East.

This is actually a lot more sensible than the Food Pyramid, especially the incomprehensible 2005 version that I still don`t understand. It actually demonstrates what a healthy meal would look like.

The $2 million doesn`t just go into the diagram. They have a website with a more detailed plan, and I assume that`s where the money goes.
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Male 15,262
Where`s the fried chicken?
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Male 626
Why did her husband becoming the president automatically make her the supreme overlord of America`s diet?
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Male 612
though it does make sense, it is the most expensive pie chart known to man.
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Male 2,850
Incidentally, this may not get any fat people to change their ways...but it DOES mean that when those said fat people need medical treatment, the government can hand them a nice big bill and/or tax increase and say "we TOLD you how to get thin and you ignored us...so now it`s on you."

And THAT will save money.
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Male 2,850
How this cost $2 million: they have to do research and studies to actually know what information to put into this (assuming this is more than just the one diagram...I should hope so anyway).

Without that research, it would be meaningless.
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Male 191
Dont like michelle obama. Be cool if obama was first black and first bachelor pres. He would get too much action at the club.
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Male 1,364
lol murika
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Male 3,060
and it only cost the tax payers $2 million. damn, michelle obama has a big ass head. she doesn`t have a forehead, she`s got a fivehead.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I love how so many of you criticise this- a simple way to ensure people understand how to balance their diet and avoid costing a fortune in healthcare. [/quote]

Except that it doesn`t do that and almost everyone who would pay attention would already have at least a rough idea of what a healthy diet is.

Have you read the objections in this thread? They`re mostly about it being pointless and thus a waste of money, for those reasons.

[quote]would you be the same set who lay into the obese at the drop of a hat,[/quote]

No.

[quote]or talk about how fat a normal girl is when her photo appears on here.[/quote]

No.

[quote]I am awed to be in the presence of so many who must live on mountains of grease and maintain lithe athletic bodies with no exercise....[/quote]

I have an inherited metabolic disorder that means I have to work hard to avoid being morbidly obese and having diabetes, heart and liver disease. All of
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Male 29
worst administration, ever.
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Female 614
costs 2 million??? why??? if youre so against obesity, you couldve drafted this up pretty damn quickly, cuz there are plates sold out there to measure your portions of all of these, and then spent 2 million replacing snack vending machines in poorer schools with something healthier like dried fruit or granola bars, or something.

there has to be something else you could have done, michelle obama, you get no credit yet.
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Male 280
Scratch that, note how "proteins" is a separate group as a whole. Also the only group described as the nutrition, not the food.
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Male 280
Note how "proteins" and "vegetables" are 2 different groups.
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Male 148
Obama should of called me. I could of made that pie chart for only $1Million :D
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Male 3,076
who gives a drat?
and how does this cost $2 mill?
now if you exuse me I`m goign to eat what ever is in my fridge...
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Male 559
makes more sense
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Female 8,052
I love how so many of you criticise this- a simple way to ensure people understand how to balance their diet and avoid costing a fortune in healthcare. would you be the same set who lay into the obese at the drop of a hat, or talk about how fat a normal girl is when her photo appears on here. I am awed to be in the presence of so many who must live on mountains of grease and maintain lithe athletic bodies with no exercise....
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Male 5,413
Why not eat whatever you want to eat!? How do you spend $2million on a pie-chart? What the...
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Male 490
Ill eat what I want and how much I want, thank you very much government! BTW, im technically underweight too.
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Female 833
wow! you guys finally got rhe Wheel of Shame too!
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Male 353
soo... i didn`t eat the recommended amount of vegetables before this was invented, the government wastes 2 million in research and web development and promotion for this "myplate", i still don`t eat the recommended amount of vegetables. Good work as always.
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Male 2,004
Sweden have followed that food model since as long as i can remember, though not every one is a stuck up bitch that forces one to follow it
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Male 749
It makes me sad that our government thinks we only understand things if they are drawn with basic shapes and primary colors. It terrifies me that they could be right.
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Male 802
WTF... where is corn syrup on this plate? Obama trying to put US farmers out of business I see.
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Male 2,988
2 million dollars? drat me. i could pull that bull poo out of my ass. and i`d only charge half that....
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Male 91
Our government`s departments have to do something like this every few years, or else people will realize how unnecessary they are.
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Male 4,546
"Makework jobs don`t help the economy. They just dilute the value of the dollar. If the government pays people for every mile they jog, that doesn`t keep the economy going because it`s not producing anything of value."

That`s not entirely true. In the case of any society with a healthcare program, even your analogy falls flat.

Paying people for jogging reduces the overall cost of healthcare for obesity, creates a healthier more energetic workforce, makes more people fit for military service thus reducing recruitment costs, etc.

In this particular case, for similar reasons, it`s not "makework jobs" to begin with. However: Even if they were, any government spending is diluted or amplified depending on the scenario, into the economy.

Which is the point he was trying to make.
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Male 1,011
The US needs an obesity tax...
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Male 904
It`s kind of oversimplified but I think people can relate to proportions of foods on a plate better than a random geometric shape. But mostly people just need to stop being crap-eating morons and eat well and enjoy good food.
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Male 2,591
I get sick of eating healthy. Sometimes you just need that nastiness of fried greasy goodness. IN MODERATION PEOPLE! But I can`t say shxt like that because I didn`t lift a damn finger to be this damn thin. Fit and cut but thin. Engineered of durable, lightweight components. Less surface area means less friction. Superb speed, agility, and dexterity. Stamina for days. Imagine if I was laying this pipe at your place babygurl!
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Male 2,085
We have an idiot for president.
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Male 314
How is this any different than the four food groups introduced in 1956?
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Male 875
go f*ck yourself. i like the original food pyramid. and there`s no `fats` section on the new one. and they say it`s simpler, but you can`t get much simpler then the original
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Male 934
Joe: Makework jobs don`t help the economy. They just dilute the value of the dollar. If the government pays people for every mile they jog, that doesn`t keep the economy going because it`s not producing anything of value. In turn, because money is still being printed, however goods and services are not, the value of the dollar declines.
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Male 721
$2,000,000 really is nothing. it may be alot for an indivdial, but its only like one persons life earnings perhaps, thats nothing for a govenment, and its not a waste, its created jobs and kept people working earning money. Its a waste if the govenment kept the money idle.
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Male 4,546
To everyone who says they can do this for $2.

I am willing to pay you $2 to do similar work for me. You see I need a website made and an advertising campaign for 300 million people to promote roleplaying in the middle east.

So you`ll be able to build me a website (including design and market research for what would be best for the region), and then market it all along the same lines.

You`ll collect available documents throughout the spectrum of different roleplaying systems, and talk to experts in the field for what types of roleplaying suits what people, and so on and so forth.

$2. For the year. Right?
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Male 934
I get it, 2 million is insignificant when compared to our overall budget, but still, it highlights how wasteful our federal spending habits have become. Defense spending, social programs and logistical expenses are out of control, and we need to make some serious cuts.

It does beg the question: how were 2 million dollars spent on this? I could imagine it taking 1 good researcher about a month to contact and interview with some expert nutritionists, write up a proposal, send it out to some of those experts to be critiqued, and then call up a graphic designer and say "I need these proportions on a plate graphic." How does it cost more than say $10000 to come up with something like this?
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Male 734
A $2 million dollar project. Your tax dollars at work.
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Male 207
It`s funny. When you think about all the money you and your family and a couple generations before that have paid in taxes, it could all have been spent on this. A food plate. I could have done that for $2.
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Male 134
Where are the M & M`s?
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Male 178
They spent 2 million on drawing a pretty picture. Fantastic. I`m really going to make sure my plate looks just like that now.
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Male 2,344
It appears to me that they are missing the very key point of the pyramid, the junk foods. But that`s alright, I`m going to correctly assume that it is the white of the plate!
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Male 40,751
Michelle Obama did this? It MUST be an evil plot:
LOOK! The fork is on the left! THE LEFT!
And the lines on the plate make a swastika! If you squint a lot, and use your imagination...

Aww, I got nothin! lolz!
I like it! It looks fine, makes WAY more sense than the 2005 `pyramid` does. "MyPlate" is a goofy name tho, but since I can`t think of a better name... it`s ok!

Oh @NitroJunkie has it right: 2 million bucks is CHICKENFEED for politicians of all stripes! Y`all are lucky it didn`t cost 2 BILLION! (ie 1000 times more) like our stupid, soon to be killed `long rifle registry`.
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Female 1,048
Sorry - but WTF? Grains and related products are high in sugars and aren`t that great for you. Low GI foods are better - and I know that in a recession it`s damn hard to provide healthy food for a family, so perhaps the first lady should be spending her time and the nation`s money on nutrition education and perhaps cooking classes in schools? Help the kids to be healthier - it might just work.
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Male 758
Oh, and you people on about the protein- we actually need more protein in our diet than you realize. The vast majority of us aren`t getting enough.
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Male 3,646
So we`re replacing one chart that doesn`t work for another chart that doesn`t work.

Yeah, that makes plenty of sense.
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Male 758
Wait, the Retardicans and Demotards are bitching about a measly two million dollars??
Isn`t this sh-thole somewhere around twelve trillion in debt? (I checked the numbers just now, it`s more like 14 trill, but my butthole actually puckered when I saw the number. I didn`t realize it was that bad). It`s not the money we should be bitching about, but that our government thinks that we`re actually THIS STUPID. I mean, there are a LOT- a disturbingly large amount- of stupids out there, but there is NO freaking way anyone can make ANY intelligible sense of this.
Here`s an idea- DON`T EAT poo FOOD. Just...be healthy, and don`t eat more than your serving size. And eating once a day is WAY worse than eating 4 times (respecting serving sizes).
drat you, government. drating drat you in the drating retarded drating government drating collective drating quasi-drating-intelligence.
Someone here mentioned Costa Rica...want a neighbor that speaks English and can fix poo?
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Male 92
+1 to Wundt
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Male 12,365
They didn`t really spend $2M on it, right? That`s a joke, yes?

Although if the $2M figure includes the cost of an advertising campaign, that would be more reasonable.

Although, like Wundt, I question how useful any such thing is because on the whole anyone who would pay any attention to it knows what a balanced diet is anyway.

Also, the "protein" segment is out of place. The rest are types of food (most of which would contain protein) and not a type of nutrient. if you`re going to talk about protein, the other segments should be carbohydrates and fats. Also, "protein" by itself is misleading as there are numerous different forms of protein and the differences matter a lot unless you`re just talking about meat.
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Male 6,737
How dare they try and tell me what to eat? I`m American and you`re trying to impinge my libertieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees.

Or something. Just wait and see, I called it.
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Female 80
dumb.... spending money we dont have as a country. typical!!
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Female 4,084
two MILLION dollars??? on this? i could have come up with it for less than $50, artwork included.
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Male 409
Yes to both questions.

The problem with the old pyramid was it was created with much input from the meat and dairy industries, that is why those two slices were larger than they should have been. This seems more in line with accepted nutritional recommendation. So that is good.

On the other side, people likely to pay attention to this already know how to eat right. That money would have been better spent actually teaching pre-teens and teens how to eat better (something recently shown to be very effective).
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Link: Food Pyramid Is Now Replaced With A Food Plate [Rate Link] - What do you think, I-A-B? Setps in the right direction or a $2 million Obama-inspired waste?
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