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    eastsiderepp Male 18-29
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    June 30, 2011 at 4:06 pm
    Link: Christian Outreach Church Is Having A Party - They don`t know how right they are...
  2. Profile photo of Deviros
    Deviros Male 18-29
    535 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    @Chalaque before you even get started:

    AFAIC IAB is an equal opportunity offender (admittedly, they have very little anti-not-Christian things).
    Ok, nearly equal oppor.. ok and redheads - but that`s mostly in jest so...
    Mostly equal... there is the Japan thing.... and the very pro-homosexual sway to many of the posts... so... kinda, sorta, no, i guess not.

    In fact - i disagree with much of the stuff that`s on here...

    So - why do I come here? Because a lot of the content is frakkin funny that`s why. If one stays completely closed to the world that they disagree with then they are doing no one but themselves harm.

    (almost done... IDC if its TL;dr, shut up) Yes, i`ll rise to a challenge from time to time, and I think shouting "repost" is retarded (yep, I`ve done it too. Guilty). But to go around shouting "bigots!!!" like a ninny is just plain foolish.
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    xelous Male 18-29
    2513 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:11 pm
    Freakin Christians... always tryin to coc block
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    xelous Male 18-29
    2513 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:12 pm
    Woah Deviros...

    Chillout man, wanna get high?
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    IkeRay Male 18-29
    2704 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:14 pm
    I don`t think IAB realizes how kinky religious women are
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    Deviros Male 18-29
    535 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:16 pm
    @Xelous - well- at first I thought he was trollin` but then i realized - he`s gone mad.

    I was hoping to maybe get him to think for a sec, IDK
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    Demynted Male 30-39
    78 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    This is the party where everyone is coming, right?
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:18 pm
    Obviously C.O.C. means Christian Outreach Church.

    Geesh IAB, would you please stop the Christian jokes and bashing ?
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    megavidiot Male 30-39
    901 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:21 pm
    Actually, I had some pretty good luck in my church`s youth group when I was a teenager. Christian girls are very, ahem, giving...
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    Tubby12370 Male 18-29
    1440 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:25 pm
    Id rather light fireworks, thank-you.
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    metalhead516 Male 18-29
    57 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 4:32 pm
    Hahahaaa.
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    l1nd5mar13 Female 18-29
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    June 30, 2011 at 4:45 pm
    @CrakrJak I don`t really get how this is bashing Christianity. I know that I-A-B has a history of doing so (even though I`m not a Christian I still don`t think that`s cool), but this is just a really funny sign. I`m pretty sure it still would have been posted had it been a sign for something completely secular.
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    BenTheBug Male 18-29
    1195 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    The 15 year old vandal in me sees much potential in this...

    old rooster party
    cock 4 slut day
    crack slut
    black trany day... the list goes on.
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    BenTheBug Male 18-29
    1195 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    I don`t know how I did it, but I somehow got past the word filter... awesome.
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    Zombiemike Male 18-29
    552 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 5:02 pm
    lost my virginity, AND had my first threesome in a christian school.
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    ScubaFett Male 18-29
    176 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    July 4th was a Sunday LAST YEAR - OOOOOLLLLDDDDD!!!!!!!!
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 5:29 pm
    Obviously C.O.C. means Christian Outreach Church.

    Geesh IAB, would you please stop the Christian jokes and bashing ?"

    Cry more dude.....You dont like how the leaders of your religion try to put their ideas of sexual preferences above my own choices, thats too damn bad. But its still worth making a satirical joke about because its so goddamn true!!

    Or do you deny that any position where the man isnt dominant is considered Sodomy.....

    SHEEP!!!
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    IceDragon77 Male 18-29
    490 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 5:59 pm
    @steelgrid Seriously, who hurt you when you were little to make you so spiteful towards christianity? Yes, the politics of the church sucks and isnt needed, as it generally gets in the way of Christ`s true teachings, which are of love and compassion, but seriously. Why?

    This is coming from a christian who would probably be considered a heathen and a heretic..

    Also, I did think this was funny. Lighten up a bit CrakrJak..
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36695 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 6:31 pm
    Geesh IAB, would you please stop the Christian jokes and bashing ?

    This isn`t bashing. This is funny. In a church that size there has to be at least one sinner {reformed} who knows what coc blocking is!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    16comets09 Male 18-29
    91 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 6:37 pm
    its fun to bash whites, blacks, yellows, muslims, christians, buddhists, jews, gays, lesbians, old people, and especially blacks. get over it
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    June 30, 2011 at 7:08 pm
    This is good-natured ribbing with our Christian friends. Pat Robertson is bashing.
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    Ripper398 Male 18-29
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    June 30, 2011 at 7:12 pm
    all non participants will be stoned.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 7:30 pm
    "@steelgrid Seriously, who hurt you when you were little to make you so spiteful towards christianity? "

    Why does a religion have to have hurt me for me to show you the truth. So sad that when you realize what your religion really is and what type of god you worship, you try to resort to petty insults because you have no real ground to stand on. You cannot tell me I am wrong. If you try to disprove me then you are disproving your own bible.

    So, you care to try that again? So who hurt you to make you turn to a rapist, murderous god?
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 7:36 pm
    Anyone else notice how ALL Jesus religions talk about each other in teh exact same way?

    "Oh they believe in this, well thats not how our religion really works"

    No matter which way you flip it, look at it, ask about it, these goddamn religions dont even know HOW to believe. Not a single one of you Jesus defenders even REALLY know what to believe in!!!
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
    3894 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 7:48 pm
    This isn`t christian-bashing... if it was on a billboard at "Cooper-Octavian College (COC)" then it would be just as funny.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 7:53 pm
    "This isn`t christian-bashing... if it was on a billboard at "Cooper-Octavian College (COC)" then it would be just as funny."

    Yeah but then a murderous ghost wouldnt be offended and it just isnt as glorious.
  27. Profile photo of IceDragon77
    IceDragon77 Male 18-29
    490 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 7:54 pm
    @Steelgrid Of course I am not going to tell you if you are wrong or not, you are a grown man and I respect your decisions. I was not trying to insult you either, I was responding in a way that would grab your attention...
    Your opinion of God is also interesting.. You can only see the darker side of what had happened. You fail to see that what had happened, every time, was for a much greater good. Though I know you will try to refute it in your own ways, as it is your opinion and I do not wish to change that.

    I do not exactly follow a named christian sect. I do not listen to another man`s words unless I feel they are really important to me. I listen to my heart tells me.
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    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3359 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    CrakrJak said: "Obviously C.O.C. means Christian Outreach Church.
    Geesh IAB, would you please stop the Christian jokes and bashing ?"

    It`s not very "politically correct", is it?
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    Beelzabob Male 40-49
    22 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    I for one love to have a good laugh at self righteous f*cks that are so weak and malleable that they would buy into the full on b*llSh*t that is organized religion. Can`t form your own opinion? Be a xian, mormon,baptist,muslim,jew, or join up with whatever human social control mechanism suits your feeble mind, but expect no mercy. You are a tool and a fool for believing that crap and if you stop and think about it for a moment with an iota of rational thought you will realize that it is just another means for the "Man" to keep you a mental slave.:-)
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    defendors87 Male 18-29
    570 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 10:28 pm
    lol @ beelzabob. just because people don`t worship satan doesn`t make them weak. and expect no mercy from whom? you? we exist to find happiness and some people find that happiness through worshipping a generous and good higher being. real or not, it brings them happiness and bring a lot more good ino this world than bad believe it or not. now please talk about religious wars and murders and evil gods and whatever else you`d like. it`s fascinating to see somebody hate something they obiously know nothing about so firmly.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
    36695 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    when you think about it, coc blocking is a fundamental function of the church.

    celebacy .... *shiver*
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    Beelzabob Male 40-49
    22 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    @ Defendors87.
    Oh sorry I forgot to mention satan... Just as dorky and lame as the rest in my opinion. Thanks for the opportunity to correct my thinking. Oh and I should have stated that "you should not expect mercy from your god." Yes you are right I know next to nothing about "state your brand of religion here" so I just spew hate to sucker folks like you into responding. Again thanks for the reality check.
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    Chalaque Male 30-39
    12 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 10:56 pm
    Once again here are the Hippocritical IAB a holes bashing a Group of People they do not agree with but let those people bash the queer group or people and IAB gets their panties in a wad and starts banning people from their blog. What a bunch of Jokes these people are. Obviously they are all a bunch of Homosexuals. Davymid, Almightybob, IAB in general must be a group of homos
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    June 30, 2011 at 10:58 pm
    Steelgrid
    Obviously daddy didn`t hug you right?
    So much anger man, chill.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 11:09 pm
    Chalaque, I`ve responded to you on a number of posts today, along these lines:

    Actually Chalaque, that was me that banned fattpill. And it wasn`t for "expressing an opinion", it was for, and I quote, "Hate-speech, homophobia, trolling, personal attacks on Mods, all after official warning."

    Also, interesting to note that you`ve been ranting all over the boards about fattpill`s banning... fattpill`s registered IP address and yours are about 30 miles apart from each other. Coincidence?

    You`re welcome to stick around dude, but I suggest you tone it down a bit.
    I see you`ve ignored those warnings today lust as you ignored the previous warnings as fattpill. Shame really, you could have stuck around if you weren`t being such a dick this time around.
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    davymid Male 30-39
    12140 posts
    June 30, 2011 at 11:18 pm
    Chalaque/fattpill, get the f*ck off my website. Again.



    p.s. I`ve just signed up both your registered IP and email addresses for a daily newsletter from chickswithdicks.com. I made sure that I ticked the box that allows them to share your details with all known affiliates.

    You have a great day.
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    LENARiT Male 18-29
    43 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 12:04 am
    @Ripper398

    "all non participants will be stoned."

    nice. i will get my bong :D

    hmmm... or does this count as participating :// :)
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    jonnycake63 Male 18-29
    146 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 12:23 am
    @davymid excellent decision. Must add that it was a nice touch adding in the chickswithdicks.com newsletter.

    In post related news, nothing makes a guy scream Jesus Christ like a good C.O.C. Block Party.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 12:49 am
    Geesh IAB, would you please stop the Christian jokes and bashing ?

    Really dude?

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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
    129 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 4:56 am
    I dunno Cajun..how would you feel if all the Christian-bashing was turned around and IAB suddenly became a Christian website? Perhaps as if your views were being ignored? Or even belittled? I`m not saying that this wonderful site should try and please everyone, cause that`s neither realistic nor practical; however, I don`t think you should attempt to invalidate somebody expressing that they`re offended. If you want a tolerant and secular site, please refrain from intolerance of those who have different views.
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 5:37 am
    @davymid /clap well done good sir. You have effectively made my pooty/boring day become exciting and fulfilling in about 30 seconds flat. Pro! <3
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    savemejebus Female 30-39
    143 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 6:18 am
    As an Atheist, I obviously love the religion jokes. And I think that if a bible thumper tells me I`m going to hell, I think making fun of them is perfectly acceptable.
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    lordtyusa Male 30-39
    301 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 6:30 am
    acmoore is right. If things were reversed, all the "tolerant" and "respectful" atheists on here would be crying foul.

    As a Christian, I obviously love the atheist jokes. And I think that if an atheist tells me there is no God, I think making fun of them is perfectly acceptable. (to paraphrase one) See how that works?
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 6:52 am
    "You fail to see that what had happened, every time, was for a much greater good."

    "Obviously daddy didn`t hug you right?
    So much anger man, chill."

    Again when people have no ground to stand on they resort to petty insults.

    The greater good huh.....Well then, lets take a look at the works of Christianity AFTER the death of christ shall we?

    -Crusades, Murder for God

    -Spanish inquisistion, murder for God

    -KKK, Racism for God

    -Tax dodging, When was the last time god paid Taxes? Thats alot of income a year for a set of Golden golf clubs and real estate in Aruba

    -Rasicm, How many people believed that God thinks less of Black People

    -Legal Rape, According to those who hold the highest positions in jesus religions, its ok to have sex with little boys because the bible DOESNT say not too

    Now lets look at the good...

    Group meeting, people comforting people, people helping p
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    Satkela Female 18-29
    583 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 6:53 am
    Funny joke. But why is Christian bashing acceptable, but gay, racial or otherwise bashing makes you a complete douche? Bashing of any kind is wrong so why continue to be hypocrites?
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 6:55 am
    Now lets look at the good...

    Group meeting, people comforting people, people helping people, people offing lodging in times of need, people offering money in times of need, People offering comfort when others need it.

    Oh wait...PEOPLE did all that, GOD didnt.

    BTW how many people must pray to your got and get "Answered" at the cost of someone elses property or life. "Oh thank god the tree only punctured my lungs and arm but didnt kill me!!!" You should be thanking god that he FAILED to kill you due to the fact that he put you in that position in the first place. While your life was saved, the tree kills someone in the back seat....THANK GOD!!!

    Really....step back and look at your "All loving" God

    ....>SHEEP!!!
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 6:58 am
    "Funny joke. But why is Christian bashing acceptable, but gay, racial or otherwise bashing makes you a complete douche? Bashing of any kind is wrong so why continue to be hypocrites?"

    Because worshiping a murderer makes it a douche subject right off the bat. Gays have alot to work through, Black still have yet to be fully accepted into society....Both of these groups had the hardest, and continue to have the hardest time because of PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE IN AND USE JESUS NAME FOR HATE!!!

    Its not just Christians, its any Jesus religion. Hate begets hate, and its time these sheep started to see the TRUE light, not the light blinding them from the truth.

    You know why you cant look upon your god? Because to Him you are not worthy. But apparently we are worthy enough to harbor his son. Hes like a master that screws his pets.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:15 am
    Steelgrid: I`ve lived through some horrible circumstances in my life, I won`t detail them here because they`d take several posts to do so, But I`ve never doubted my faith in God or Jesus Christ as my savior.

    It`s obvious you have a lot of bitterness and pent up hatred toward your perceived idea of what God and Christianity is.

    Call Christians sheep all you want it doesn`t bother me a bit, The 23rd Psalm even says that "the Lord is my shepherd..", That doesn`t make Christians any less of a human being than you are.

    You really are an arrogant prick, if you believe your a superior human being just because you don`t believe in God. You have a lot of maturing yet to do, and that would include a healthy dose of knowing when to STFU and really listen.
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    dave32891 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 7:16 am
    every day there`s more and more religion bashing on this site. seriously does anyone think this is funny or amusing?!
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:38 am
    @CrakrJak

    It`s not the god we have a problem with; it`s you lot and what you do in his name.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:45 am
    @Satkela

    "But why is Christian bashing acceptable, but gay, racial or otherwise bashing makes you a complete douche?"

    1: In this particular case, the target of the mockery is an amusingly clueless sign, that just so happens to be related to religion: the religion is not the source of the humour here.

    2: In general on here, either a religious loon is being mocked for being a loon (and the religion is just what he happens to be a loon about...be fair, you guys have a LOT of loons to choose from), OR we are mocking the religion itself, not the believer, which is fair game; religion is an idea, not a person, and as such does not have feelings to be hurt, in much the same way as we might mock an Apple Mac. The follows might still get butthurt, but that`s because they`re "offended" that their cherished idea might be scrutinised and mocked...the horror.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 7:46 am
    Or too long, didn`t read:

    Mocking the actions someone does, or mocking the ideas they support, is not the same as mocking a person for who they are.
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    kairobert Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 7:48 am
    "every day there`s more and more religion bashing on this site. seriously does anyone think this is funny or amusing?!"

    Not really, but making religious people like you angry is.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:49 am
    @CrakrJak

    PS: As you`ve so often dodged the question, but you`re now being open about personal matters, (that you`ve had some horrible circumstances in your life), would you mind telling us if you are married or are in a relationship?

    I`ll take silence to mean you`re single.
  55. Profile photo of Cajun247
    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:52 am
    @acmoore

    Com`on, this is just one of those little `oops` moments they don`t say a lot about Christians or this Church for that matter. It happens often to anyone really.
    Me: confused Singapore with Thailand.
    Obama: Said there were 57 states.
    Newspapers:


    If this picture says it`s that they shouldn`t use that acronym ever.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:54 am
    If this picture says it`s that they shouldn`t use that acronym ever.

    Confusing where I put that.

    I was referring to the sign not the headline I posted.
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    Cajun247 Male 18-29
    10732 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:59 am
    So why don`t you start with cleaning out the idiots on your side before you go after us

    I don`t think atheists have any praise (if moreso scorn) for people like Stalin.
  58. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17514 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 8:02 am
    Musuko42: would you mind telling us if you are married or are in a relationship?

    It doesn`t matter, I could be divorced, widowed, single, dating, engaged or married, and it`s none of your business.

    I don`t care what you assume about me, you`ve already built up quite a falsehood of belief about who I am anyways, so it doesn`t matter. I doubt you`d believe the truth anyways.
  59. Profile photo of Musuko42
    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 8:13 am
    @CrakrJak

    "It doesn`t matter, I could be divorced, widowed, single, dating, engaged or married, and it`s none of your business."

    Sorry, no dice: as long as you keep sticking your nose in the love lives of homosexual people, your love life is fair game.

    "I doubt you`d believe the truth anyways."

    Try me.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 8:14 am
    @CrakrJak

    "I`ve repeatedly apologized for the WBC and KKK like idiots running around saying they are Christians."

    Do you count yourself as a "normal" Christian?
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 8:18 am
    @CrakrJak

    "Btw, your atheism cheerleaders can be just as obnoxious and hateful as any WBC or KKK member, So why don`t you start with cleaning out the idiots on your side before you go after us, ok ?"

    Can you find any examples of, say, Dawkins or Myers calling for the deaths of theists?

    Also, even if we do have pooheads on our side (and I`m sure we do; every group has them), your group has the seniority; you`ve been around far, far longer, so the onus is on you to make the first step.

    You had the nasties first, so you clean up the nasties first.

    How many moderate Christians do you really see out on the street counter-picketting a Westboro Baptist protest?
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    5Cats Male 50-59
    32829 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 8:44 am
    Sign = funny!
    Christian bashing IABers = boring!
    PermaBanning = Priceless! :-)

    You go @davymid! (I`m not even sure what that means, I hope it`s positive, lolz!)
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    pinksocks Female 18-29
    113 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 8:55 am
    Why can`t you all just laugh at the damn picture instead of bickering and having stupid arguements about crap that will never ever get settled?
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    Jasonbobdude Male 18-29
    1598 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 9:13 am
    I-A-B just posted a funny church sign. Instead of laughing at the picture, let`s argue about religion, making absolutely no progress from the last argument.
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    Enchilada Female 70 & Over
    931 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 9:31 am
    LOL`d at davymid`s win. That was funnier than the post.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3890 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 9:42 am
    What I hardly ever see are religious leaders standing up for the minority when the bible is being used as a weapon against them. After all these people are putting a huge stain on your religion. Where is the outrage?
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    markust123 Male 40-49
    3890 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 9:45 am
    As to not be a hypocrite I wanted to say to Steelgrid, you are being really mean towards people of faith. You are giving atheists and agnostics a bad name.
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
    725 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 9:52 am
    "Like what, Give free food and shelter to the homeless ? Give free counseling and help with addiction ? Give free or low cost clothing and furniture to those in need ? The Salvation Army does all that and more, and that`s just one of the many religious organizations that help people everyday."

    So, by this statement you`re intimating that secular folks and organizations don`t do any of this. Interesting. The pathetic fact is that you have to have an invisible sky pixie to move you to do these kind works. But does it ever come without the price tag of a sermon and witnessing?

    "Here, child, have some grain and clean water, but it comes with the price of a sermon, having a church built and the permission to indoctrinate your tribe. We`ll tell you that your several millennia old traditions are evil, force you to wear clothing so as to engender shame in your disgusting bodies, make you tithe your meager income to the church and instill the fear of our arbitr
  69. Profile photo of Lord_Jereth
    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
    725 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 9:54 am
    arbitrary boogyman in you so as to keep you in line."

    Nice.

    But those other folks, those that don`t need religion to tell them to be nice and feed the homeless, etc. what of them? Who is more moral? Who is truly doing these things out of the goodness of their hearts? Who is the more "christian?"

    I wonder.

    8-) LJ
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 9:56 am
    Call Christians sheep all you want it doesn`t bother me a bit, The 23rd Psalm even says that "the Lord is my shepherd..", That doesn`t make Christians any less of a human being than you are.
    It means that christians are sheep. I think we all agree on that!

    Since we are all biologically not sheep and very similar, the fact that christians are sheep must allude to them being idealistic sheep, accepting and following an ideology that they happen to stumble upon, without thinking.

    Now that doesn`t mean that they are actually less human, of course.

    But it is interesting that as we are all humans, ie; "homo sapiens" - which is essentially "wise man" or "knowing man" or "thinking man", the sheep, as they are, contradict this somewhat :-P
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 10:08 am
    In my opinion, any time somebody says outright that "due to circumstance, I can do this thing that would objectively be wrong", there`s a serious and deeper issue. Guys, seriously, when is is ever okay to take on a personal vendetta against somebody based on the belief system they follow? That`s not only intolerant, it`s downright hateful. You know the one Bible verse that hits me hard every time? The one that goes "Love your neighbor as thyself". That`s not a religious ideal; that`s a basic tenet of communication, and I see a disgusting amount of mud-slinging here, made personal because of perceived differences. A debate is fine, folks, but this? This is garbage. I-A-B is better than this.
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    July 1, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Acmoore, this article will explain why people are such dicks with their comments: Anger Management Tips Internet Could Really Use
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 11:24 am
    "Funny joke. But why is Christian bashing acceptable, but gay, racial or otherwise bashing makes you a complete douche? Bashing of any kind is wrong so why continue to be hypocrites?"

    Religion is a conscious decision.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    lolz
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 1:31 pm
    Yeah, man, I already read it today. Still, come on.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 1, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    Musuko42: My father, Who is a CMA (Christian Motorcyclist Association) member and a Vietnam vet, Has blocked the WBC protesters from several local military funerals as part of the `Patriot Riders`.

    So to answer your question more thoroughly, Hundreds of Christians do nearly every time they show up to a funeral.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 1, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    Lord_Jereth: I`ve already posted a NY Times article, several times, on a study who gives more, and the answer is that religious people do, and not just their money but their time as well.

    You seem to think Religious people aren`t using all of their brains or are subhuman, Sorry but not showing compassion or helping those in need is even even more subhuman.

    The worst atrocities of mankind are attributed to those wanting to rid society of religion in the name of atheism and it`s communist ideal, Soviet Russia, North Korea, China, Cuba, and Cambodia come to mind.
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    ShadowDD13 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 3:13 pm
    CrakrJak you seem to forget that some of the worst attrocities of mankind have also been in the name of a religion, namely the big 3 and their holy wars, but an infitite list beyond that as well, there is nothing wrong in having your beliefs, but all of those religions do two things, tell you to hate or to kill others not in your religion (the kill one off islam ) and have an overall non-acceptance atmosphere of those with opposing beliefs, constantly trying to force their views on others or convert others... there is something particularly wrong with some of those beliefs and the atmosphere they create, and while i am accepting in general of those people anyways, we certainly do not need to, you should ask if you truly are you using your whole brain if you blindly believe in a system that asks you to not accept or hurt others
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    Now who ever said i was an atheist or agnostic? How can i be giving these groups a bad name when Im not even part of it....Shame for putting words in my mouth.

    What i worship is something I can detect with all 5 senses. It gives life, it takes life. i have no fantasies about how it was created and what continues to happen to ensure its exsistance.

    Now as far as me being "mean and unfair", excuse me if I care to see the truth. How am I being mean when I am not sugar coating the truth.

    Crackr, so youve been through some rough times. guess what, god had nothing to do with it. Oh hey look you are still typing here, so you made it through....Guess what, God didnt do that either..YOU DID. You could have accomplished the same thing if you bowed to a bowl of used tampons. They would have answered your prays the same way!!!
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 3:29 pm
    You know what crackr...i can sit here explaining this all day, but you do not want to read the words. Allow me to show you the beginning and the result of your religion in witty art form. All hail the magic baby.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 1, 2011 at 6:25 pm
    ShadowDD13: Sorry, My religion, Christianity, does not `tell me to hate or kill others`, if that`s the crap you`ve been taught about Christianity then it`s dead wrong.

    Steelgrid: You have no idea how my belief in God and Christ has helped me, It would take me several pages to describe it all and you aren`t receptive to it`s telling, so I`ll just save my breath. But I wouldn`t be typing right now if miracles hadn`t saved me on several occasions.

    Miracles do happen, God does work through other Christians, and I`ve witnessed it first hand.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 7:37 pm
    "Miracles do happen, God does work through other Christians, and I`ve witnessed it first hand. "

    No dude, you witnessed people helping themselves. That is what makes humans great, the helpful human nature. You dont need god to tell you "This is the right thing to do", and you realy cant imply that without god humans would fall into pure anarchy.

    Praying to a god helps exactly as much as getting up in the morning, doing what needs to be done, putting in a hard days work and coming home to a good meal. the only difference is i have an extra 5 minutes in the morning to get it all done to too lack of w/e you do to worship the ghost.

    You need to appreciate your decisions and what you have made yourself as your OWN accomplishments. Not thank someone else for YOUR hard work.
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    sicker Female 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 7:39 pm
    I swear this is a church near my house. I kept meaning to take a photo and forgot.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
    2700 posts
    July 1, 2011 at 7:46 pm
    "ShadowDD13: Sorry, My religion, Christianity, does not `tell me to hate or kill others`, if that`s the crap you`ve been taught about Christianity then it`s dead wrong. "

    Uhhh dude?

    (Deuteronomy 22:23-24 NAB)

    If within the city of man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring then both out of the gates of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife

    OR

    (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

    If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed: they have forfeited their lives.

    OR
    (this one is summed up)

    Kill everyone who has religious views that are different than your own. Deuteronomy 17:2-7

    ......and then!?!?
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    lordtyusa Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 8:27 pm
    What I don`t get is all this negativity against people like CrakrJak. So he wants to believe in a higher power, so what? What`s it to you Steelgrid? You want us "Bible Thumpers" to leave you alone and stop telling you you`re going to hell, but you don`t want to stop telling us that we are fools and that religion is the cause for blah blah blah. Talk about intolerant hypocrisy! You have become the very same prejudiced bigot you profess to hate. Congrats! As for the "evils" of religion, do some current research, will you? This whole crusades example is just a tad dated. If you bother to read scientific journals (especially dealing with sociology) you will find that religion is actually pivitol to a civilization`s growth and prosperity. Try this link for example Can`t you just allow your fellow man to believe what he wants and
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 9:58 pm
    What I don`t get is all this negativity against people like CrakrJak. So he wants to believe in a higher power, so what? What`s it to you Steelgrid?
    Can I have a stab at that question although it wasn`t addressed to me? It`s not about negativity to Crakrjak personally (in my case at least, I consider him a friend). It`s because Crakrjak is the IAB poster-boy for a large part of Right-Wing Conservative Christian society, especially in America, which is literally tens of millions of of people, and THAT is important. BTW, kudos to CJ for sticking around here despite all the many flames directed at him. So I won`t mention CJ, I`ll talk about RWCC`s in general (as proxy for typing "Right-Wing Conservative Christians every time).

    RWCCs are a huge lobby in America, and therefore, by extension, world politics. When you ask "What`s it to you Steelgrid?", you`re asking it would mean to everyone. If RWCCs had their way, we would have:
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 9:58 pm
    1) Denial of basic rights to homosexuals. Because of the Bible.
    2) Evolution wouldn`t be taught in science class, it`s a lie and doesn`t happen. Because of the Bible.
    3) Global climate change wouldn`t be taught in science class, it`s a lie and doesn`t happen. Because of the Bible.
    4) Any form of socialism is inherently evil. Because of the... yeah, even I don`t get that one, Jesus was the original socialist.

    These ideals are important, they shape who gets voted in as our governments, they shape our society, they shape our education system, they shape how we treat our fellow human beings.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 1, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    Shutting up soon, I promise. As far as I`m concerned, people can be into whatever they want, as long as it doesn`t hurt anyone (and no, having your feelings hurt doesn`t count, man the f*ck up). Heck, I`ve even shut up on beating up on Juggalos, and lemme tell you, that was a stretch. You go, have your thing. But when "your thing" starts to have tangible, real-world impact on people`s lives - whether it be human rights, education, whatever, in the goddam 21st century - THAT is when I have a serious f*cking problem.

    Religious people, do your thing. Just don`t sh*t in other peoples` cornflakes.
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 11:07 pm
    Steelgrid, you have every right to your opinion, and there`s nothing I can say that would endear you to tolerance. However, if it`s Christianity that you want to bash, I would avoid using the Old Testament (or Torah, to the Jews). It`s in the Bible, yes, but it`s not what true Christian ideals are rooted in.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 1, 2011 at 11:30 pm
    Steelgrid: Perhaps you don`t know this but the OT is part of God`s covenant with Pre-Christ Jews. There were over 600 rules called the mozaic law and they applied only to the Jews that lived back then.

    Christ created a new covenant with all of mankind, not just the Jews, The old mosaic law is in the past, Christ`s sacrifice on the cross simplified everything because he paid all of mankind`s debt of sin.

    Thus there is no more prohibition of shellfish, pork, no more clothing restrictions, death penalty for gays, or sacrificing animals, etc...

    So your narrative that those mosaic laws apply to Christians is false, and every Christian scholar I`ve read agrees with that interpretation.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 1, 2011 at 11:36 pm
    davymid: Christianity has shaped western society for over a thousand years and has definitely shaped American society since the pilgrims landed.

    Christians will always have a `tangible, real-world impact on people`s lives`, because it`s Christ`s commandment that we treat our neighbors as ourselves. In fact this world would be a far harsher and worse place without Christians `tangible, real-world impact on people`s lives`.
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 1, 2011 at 11:44 pm
    Seriously, imagine a world completely lacking altruism, with every man out for himself and nobody else; no permanent consequences, no conscience requiring pacification. In the world you guys seem to want, where atheism is the rule and there`s no God at all...what`s the point. Ultimately, what purpose does anything serve?
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    magoo22 Male 30-39
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    July 2, 2011 at 12:26 am
    @steelgrid & @davymid You speak words of truth. I`m not going to add anything to what you`ve said,except to say that I`m glad you are out there.
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    markust123 Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 8:39 am
    People are born with morals and are also taught them by their parents. I know this because I did not have a religious upbringing yet I have very strong morals. When I picture a world without organized religion I see a lot nicer place. I didn`t say without God I said without organized religion. The horrific things that have been done in the name of religion far outweigh the good deeds.
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 9:13 am
    @CrakrJak

    That is a convenient interpretation which allows you to cherry pick those parts of the bible that suit you, nothing more. In fact, your Jesus said:

    Mathew 5:17-20

    17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    8-) LJ
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 9:20 am
    I fully agree with Davy. I am a firm believer of the adage, "Do as ye will but harm none."

    If believing in some 4000 year old, bronze age, animal sacrificing tribal sky pixie gets you through the night. Dammit, that`s what you need to do. But the moment you try to make your arbitrary set of morals into my laws and try to force everyone to legitimize, by right of arms, your personal delusion, you`re going to have a fight on your hands.

    "Lord, save me from your followers."

    8-) LJ
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    cyborg Male 13-17
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    July 2, 2011 at 10:18 am
    heh
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 10:28 am
    Lord_Jereth: Christ "Accomplished" and fulfilled the law when he died on the cross. He set down a new covenant and a new ritual.

    One no longer has to be more righteous or more sinless as a `Pharisee` to enter the kingdom of heaven. Christ even told a thief being crucified near him, after the thief repented, that he would be joining him in heaven that night.

    The law is hardly `arbitrary` and no one is forced to believe. America`s laws and morals have created a great nation for us, and saved the world from falling into dictators and despots hands on several occasions.

    Name me another country that has went to war with another, then after making peace with them rebuilt their nation, became good friends with them, and then withdrew it`s armed forces back home leaving the country it went to war with better than it was before ? You can`t, Only America has.
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Wow, Crakr, denial much?

    The first part of your rebuttal is only that, a poorly veiled attempt at reassertion and denial of an obvious contradiction - and worse yet, what your `savior` actually said. The rest of your post is nothing more than a pathetic attempt to cast me, an atheist, into the light of hating America. Sorry bub, that dog don`t hunt. Non sequitur will not help you, here.

    The facts are that xtians have always attempted to push their "morals", by force of arms, persuasion or legislation, to make those "morals" into laws that govern those that don`t subscribe to their faith.

    I, for one, have no need for your religion`s arbitrary and constrictive morals, burden of guilt, bigotry and xenophobia. I don`t need some 2000-4000 year old, incomplete, plagiaristic, condemnation ridden, contradictory and poorly edited collection of fairy tales to teach me how to deal with my fellow man. Believe it or not, I figured out how to do that on
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 11:44 am
    ... my own.

    8-) LJ
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 12:41 pm
    Lord_Jereth: Since you`re not a biblical scholar, and don`t have faith, I wouldn`t expect you to understand.

    When Jesus died on the cross he said "It is accomplished.", That is not coincidental, He fulfilled the law and prophecies with his death and resurrection.

    Nothing in the constitution says you have to believe in God, but we must obey the laws even we don`t like them. You can keep flying by your own rules, but don`t be surprised or upset if your rules run afoul of the law and get arrested.
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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    July 2, 2011 at 3:49 pm
    "When Jesus died on the cross he said "It is accomplished.","

    What was accomplished exactly. he rotted, fed some worms, bones decayed to dust....then what?

    Cj you keep dancing around the true facts. You tell me "Oh dont use this bible, Use this bible instead"

    Two things wrong with that, first off, funny how you dont even know what to believe, gotta have several books...And TWO!!!! You know as well as I do (If you actually read your bible) the BS that book has in it. It calls for deaths, it calls for the mistreatment of others not of your likeness. You can twist and squirm all you want, but it is in there.

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    Steelgrid Male 30-39
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    July 2, 2011 at 3:55 pm
    Really dude, do you even hear yourself? Have you really understood your bible? Do you realize that you are being told that God loves, but in reality you people believe he is wrathful? Do you realize that you say Satan is the root of evil, but in reality you PRAISE Satan for being the punisher of the sinners? Technically wouldnt he be doing good by Punishing the sinners, and wouldnt God be doing Evil by simply enacting his Wrath?

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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 4:24 pm
    "Since you`re not a biblical scholar, and don`t have faith, I wouldn`t expect you to understand."


    This pathetic excuse of an argument is, I believe, called the "Appeal to Hidden Knowledge" argument. Meaning that you attempt to make it seem that you have knowledge that I can`t possibly have or understand. What`s next, the "Natural Man" argument? Appeal to authority? Appeal to consensus, emotion or complexity?

    In point of fact, I grew up in the church. In point of further fact, I -WAS- a (youth) bible scholar and have the awards from my church to prove it. I just woke up, smelled the BS and stopped trying to say it was gingerbread.

    Be that as it may, one need not be a scholar to read and comprehend what has been written. Jesus said he did not come to change the law. Pretty cut and dried to me. What`s that you folks always say? "The bible said it, I believe it and that`s good enough for me."
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 4:26 pm
    It is you that has misinterpreted it to mean what you want. You are a cherry picker, Crakr. You pick and choose what suits your personal, arbitrary view of the universe and ignore or deny the rest.

    Good luck with that.

    8-) LJ
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    If you dismiss Mosaic law in particular and the OT in general on the basis of the (somewhat dodgy) interpretation that Jesus` death negates it all, then you also have to dismiss a fair bit of mainstream Christianity.

    A particularly topical example is that you have to dismiss the idea that homosexual sex is sinful. The only condemnation of homosexual sex is in the OT under Mosaic law (and even that`s debateable because the original meaning is very unclear). So if you REALLY believe that Jesus` death negated all of the old laws then you have no religious basis at all for any disapproval of homosexuality.

    Lord Jereth was absolutely right when he wrote "That is a convenient interpretation which allows you to cherry pick those parts of the bible that suit you, nothing more."

    That is what Christianity is - pick `n` mix from your own holy book.
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    davymid Male 30-39
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    July 2, 2011 at 10:51 pm
    Aaaaand, THIS is about the point where Crakrjak usually falls into silence.
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 2, 2011 at 11:08 pm
    Wanna talk theology, Angilion? Because I firmly believe that mainstream Christianity is a farce, and is truly a perversion of the New Testament. I agree that horrible, reprehensible things have been done in the name of God; however, I believe this is due to misinterpretation of the Word--true Christianity is as you say, with ALL sin forgiven judicially. It is never said that there`s anything you can do that will push you out of God`s love, but there are things that will make you want to deny it--this is sin at its simplest. Also, on the other side of the coin, you can`t do anything to earn your way to God, meaning that good works don`t matter in the sense that you won`t be *more* saved if you do them (Ephesians 2:8, Romans 3:5-31).
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 2, 2011 at 11:13 pm
    To summarize, gentlemen, I agree with most of you in that the name of God has been used as justification for atrocities--this doesn`t make God evil, this makes Man, Man. Yes, there are many translations of the Bible, and therefore many interpretations therein, but the Truth lies in finding what is translated most commonly among them--saying that something was lost or changed in translation isn`t exactly earth-shattering. And no, I will not think less of anybody for their beliefs, ever, but I firmly believe I can support mine for longer and under more strain than can you. There should be no hostility here, guys, and the fact that you`re being as hateful as you say Christians are doesn`t speak very well of what you believe; it`s hypocrisy at its finest, and for that, I suppose I thank you.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    July 2, 2011 at 11:28 pm
    It doesn`t matter how much I explain or try to carefully connect the dots for either of you, You`ve chosen to believe the bible is a lie and I have no power to change your mind for you. I don`t "pick `n` mix" from the bible, The OT is Jewish history, Jewish law, It`s the backstory and prophecies of the Messiah, Jesus. Without the OT the NT would be much harder to understand and would lack the context of Jewish law & society.

    It`s akin to watching the last 30 minutes of the Lord of the Rings series of movies, You would have no idea who the characters really were, how they got there, or the society they lived in.

    But it doesn`t matter how often I explain, I`m casting pearls before swine and shouldn`t expect any of you to respond positively.
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 2, 2011 at 11:30 pm
    True,CJ, but wording it like that isn`t helpful--it`s combative and divisive. Regardless of how you feel, we all think we`re right, and it doesn`t make sense to just shout it to the world. Either back it up or go home. Which is made difficult if, as they say, the Bible is illegitimate. So yes, we`re in a tough spot. Welcome to Christianity, friend.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 3, 2011 at 12:51 am
    So...without any reference to any of the OT law that you say is negated for Christians, please provide biblical support for any disapproval of homosexuality.

    The usual attempts to find a NT justification for it rely on interpreting `soft` to mean `homosexual` (despite the fact that the same word is used fairly often elsewhere in the NT and never means `homosexual`) and "translating" a word with no known meaning as `homosexual`. Feel free to try those verses (from 1 Timothy and 1 Corinthians).

    It is possible to find in the NT condemnation of heterosexual people having homosexual sex as part of non-Christian religious rites, but that`s not too common nowadays.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    July 3, 2011 at 12:59 am
    acmoore92:

    You can make your own interpretation of some parts of your bible while ignoring other parts as being invalid, but you`re essentially making your own religion.

    Just be thankful you aren`t living in the time when Christianity had enough outright power to have you executed as a heretic.
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 3, 2011 at 1:55 am
    “If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love you as its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you. Remember the word that I said to you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted me, they will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours.
    —John 15:18-20

    I`ve tried to be reasonable, my friends, and tolerant of opposing views, and I believe that I`ve been successful. Therefore, I ask you to consider the type of people who frequent this site and peruse the comments, adding hateful, inflammatory speech without tolerant regard of others` beliefs. As I`ve said, a debate would be enthusiastically welcome; all I`ve received is condescending hate speech, and truly? It lifts my spirits--you`re just proving my beliefs to be true, and for that I thank you.
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    acmoore92 Male 18-29
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    July 3, 2011 at 1:59 am
    Edit: I commend and salute the good Scotsman almightybob1. He and I had a solid, encouraging debate, without debasement or reprimand. Again, I give thanks, that even though people may not agree, there are still those who respect differences.
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    July 3, 2011 at 4:23 am
    Likewise acmoore :)
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    almightybob1 Male 18-29
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    July 3, 2011 at 4:33 am
    Davymid, Almightybob, IAB in general must be a group of homos

    Well if I get picked out especially by fattpill, I know I must be doing something right.
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    Lord_Jereth Male 40-49
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    July 3, 2011 at 9:36 am
    @acmoore92

    The appeal to opposition argument won`t work here, either, my friend. I do not hate Xtians in general, nor do I hate Crakr in particular. Don`t make the mistake of interpreting debate and criticism as persecution.

    You are the type of Xtian I can get a long with very well. We can agree, with an educated viewpoint, that the book is flawed. Your faith then, comes from within. It is more anecdotally spiritual in nature. You have found what works for you. So few in this life can say that. I actually applaud it.

    It is the CrakrJak type, "fundy" Xtians that I have a problem with; the cherry-picking, interpreting Xtian who will twist and corrupt what is written to justify their bigotry and violent hatred for anyone who does not follow their particular brand of faith. That is true for any religion. They are wolves in sheep`s clothing.

    acmoore92, go in peace, my friend. We have no quarrel.

    8-) LJ

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