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    techgeek07 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Link: Bonded Labor: Ready To Get Enraged I-A-B? - Rocketboom`s Kazim Raza visits a family of bonded laborers in Pakistan. Personally, I would`ve killed the landlord.
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    donthaveone Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:43 am
    BooHoo.... so do something about it ... there`s only one of them.. stand up for yourself`s.
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:47 am
    this is the uber-rich`s vision for america.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:50 am
    Here`s some advice from Tyrone Green.
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:54 am
    this is the uber-rich`s vision for america.

    I take it you never heard of sharecropping it already did happen.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:55 am
    drat you jimbro. You`re a drating rooster for that statement.
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    PUDDING1961 Female 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:56 am
    That`s really sad.
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:10 am
    @auburnjunky
    just look at whats happening. the ultra rich are getting richer. you investments cant keep up with inflation. adjusted for inflation the average american makes less now than they did in 1980, while the top 2% are making hundreds of times more. soon congress (if the republicans have their way...but the democrats are no better) will do away with minimum the wage, unions, social security, and anything else that might help the middle and lower classes. it (sadly) wont surprise me to see this in america in my lifetime. dont like it? start doing something about it now, before it gets bad (worse...its already bad)
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:13 am
    drat you jimbro. You`re a drating rooster for that statement.

    This is pure capitalism in action. Give capitalism free reign and the people who are rich enough to have any power are at a disadvantage if they spend more on their workers than other members of the elite.

    There are people in the USA who advocate pure communism. Many of them may be deluded enough to think it will result in an idyll, but it can`t be all of them.

    jumbro is wrong because not all of the uber-rich are in that group...but with unrestrained capitalism they would have to be in order to retain wealth and power.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:21 am
    Modern day slavery, what a shame, I`m not buying anything more made of cotton from Pakistan, period.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:21 am
    First of all, it`s liberals who want to kill social security, not the conservatives. Conservatives recognize that social security is bankrupt, and are trying to fix it. Liberals want to spend it into extinction.

    I don`t want to get into a long diatribe here, but here is the beauty of Capitalism; If you don`t like your station in life, and you resent the ultra-rich CEO`s, you can BECOME ONE YOURSELF! Any American can do this. It is not an exclusive club.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:21 am
    Hear hear Crakr.
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    ScottSerious Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:23 am
    commence sh*tstorm
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:32 am
    I just went through all my clothes, and I saw no "made in Pakistan". I would have thrown it away.
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    jimbro Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:33 am
    auburnjunky, read up on the robber barons of the late 19th century. this is what unregulated capitalism creates.

    did you know that while the economy for the average american is the worst its been since the great depression, most of the fortune 500 are posting record profits? do you know you probably pay a higher tax rate than the top 4 earners in america (who are able to claim their earnings of multiple billions as capital gains and pay only 15% on them)? do you realize that it would take 10,000 years (thats TEN THOUSAND YEARS) for someone who makes double the national average of $50,000 to make one billion dollars? these guys make multiple billions a year. to say that anyone can do it is complete bullpoo. but whatever. keep listening to rush. keep watching fox. everything will be ok as long as we get rid of all the regulation so these poor billionaires can have capitalism the way they want it.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:37 am
    I don`t want to get into a long diatribe here, but here is the beauty of Capitalism; If you don`t like your station in life, and you resent the ultra-rich CEO`s, you can BECOME ONE YOURSELF!

    Sure...and the beauty of communism is that it produces a peaceful paradise where everyone has everything they want and there isn`t any unfairness at all in any way.

    As I said before:

    Many of them may be deluded enough to think it will result in an idyll

    which applies to both extremes, both of which have the same results.

    Any American can do this.

    If that was true, obviously they`d all do it. Certainly very few people would choose to live in poverty given a free choice.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:37 am
    Dude, this isn`t the late 19th century.

    Also, my tax rate is 0% because I have children. I get everything back. I am one of the 51% of Americans who pay NO TAXES and I think it is not fair.

    Percentage of taxes paid is not a good indicator of amount of taxes paid. The top 4% of earners, like you so eloquently brought to the discussion, pay 75% of all income tax in this country. Don`t look at the percentage, look at the total amount paid.

    This is why we need a fair/flat tax, so EVERYONE pays.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:38 am
    @Angillion: Don`t make excuses for lazy people.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Actually, I pay -20% in taxes, because I get back what I paid, plus 20%. Like I said, I don`t think this is fair.
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    Oystah Female 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:41 am
    Just a thought, but if your life is that of a slave, why would you have children and subject them to that?
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:00 pm
    dont know what to say
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    Ender27 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:01 pm
    sharecropping anyone? this happened in america for many years after our civil war
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    sbeelz Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:05 pm
    @Oystah- Do you think that these people really have access to birth control?
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:17 pm
    Dude, this isn`t the late 19th century.

    Dude, water is wet.

    Equally true and equally irrelevant.

    There was more capitalism in the USA in the late 19th century than there is now. That`s why the abuses were so blatant.

    Here`s another example - England, later middle ages. ~1100 to late 14th century. Lots of capitalism in that time. Read about it. Amazingly, not everyone was rich! Imagine that!

    @Angillion: Don`t make excuses for lazy people.

    You`re more devout than an evangelical preacher.

    You`re actually arguing that anyone in the USA who isn`t an ultra-rich CEO is lazy. You`re really doing it. I didn`t think you`d go that far.

    There are examples of wealthy noblemen complaining about the laziness of serfs in medieval England. Of wealthy Romans complaining about the laziness of their slaves. Etc, etc.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:21 pm
    continued...

    I think it`s to assuage some sort of unease about being so vastly better off. If you can blame them strenuously enough, you can ignore the discrepency.
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    DrProfessor Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:38 pm
    Don`t worry guys, Mowgli will call down Hathi the elephant and destroy the landlord with the fury of the jungle.
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    alibi19 Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    I think a revolt here has been long overdue.
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    greenbasterd Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    same thing happened in north america not that ling ago with coal mines. they wer epaid in credits to the canteen but the prices were to high so they ended having to borrow from the mine owners with interest.. so they were basically slaves.. 16 tons and what do ya get. another day older and deeper in dept
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    McGovern1981 Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Here`s a question why the f**k are we pretty much paying people to breed no offence AJ but how are more people going to fix our problems?? Not to mention some people who aren`t fit for life are being encouraged to breed parasites they can`t even raise.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    A Republican`s wet dream.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    @mcgovern:

    I agree with you. I get a tax credit of $2500 per child. I don`t deserve it, but they just give it.

    The EIC (earned income credit) and all other entitlement programs that have been expanded to out of control proportions, should be reeled in.
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    @nottaspy: Abe Lincoln was a Republican sir.
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    NottaSpy Male 40-49
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:38 pm
    @auburnjunky, my bad. I was talking about the current Republican party which is indistinguishable from conservatives. I should have said "a conservatives wet dream".
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    auburnjunky Male 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:48 pm
    @nottaspy: Conservatives want fair wages for all.

    How did they get in this discussion? Oh I know! Misinformation!
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    Sathon Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 1:51 pm
    Meanwhile, in Vancouver...
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    n0n Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 2:24 pm
    Maybe I`m totally missing the point, or I`m ignorant to this whole subject matter but...it`s just ONE little man slaving them. One man. Why can`t they just overcome him, see how he likes beating?
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    2L82Pray Female 30-39
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    June 20, 2011 at 3:00 pm
    This whole thing looks contrived and well scripted to me, down to the amazing quality of the film itself. The kids are smiling while talking; no one has bruises or looks beaten. This family has better clothes, housing and household goods than I saw in Afghanistan. And even if the kids were "Allowed" to go to school, Pakistan has one of the worst school systems in the world. Most "schools" don`t have books, supplies or even a building. Children sit outside on the ground and listen to a teacher read to them (mostly religious texts). Is this part of a Bollywood movie someone spliced and edited?
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 3:33 pm
    seems oddly familiar. oh yeah, because its happened everywhere in the world at some point. i feel bad for them, and it saddens me that the world is still like this.
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    cobrakiller Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm
    auburnjunky, it is true that lincoln was a republican but he was the liberal choice in that election against breckinridge of the southern democrats (the conservative party).
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    Suicism Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    Why is it always slaves for the damn cotton?
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    ElMustache Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 8:16 pm
    "You get a meal a day, what else do you want?"

    Sounds like the Paul Ryan plan.
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    penguinazul Female 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 10:03 pm
    Sbeelz, I`m with Oystah on this one. They probably don`t have access to birth control, but just because a man and a woman are living in the same room together doesn`t mean they have to have sex. If I were living in those types of conditions, having sex would be the LAST thing on my mind. The adults obviously know that sex creates babies, so why do they keep doing it? I think I would rather be beaten to death than to bring a child into that kind of environment.
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    Adi_Noor Male 18-29
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    June 20, 2011 at 11:30 pm
    Don`t boycott pakistani cotton made items. It won`t effect that situation.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2011 at 4:19 am
    @Angilion
    "If that was true, obviously they`d all do it. Certainly very few people would choose to live in poverty given a free choice".

    Have you ever been to America? Theirs parasites all over this country that live in poverty for the sole purpose of drawing welfare and Gov benefits. I`ve heard a woman brag about living in Gov housing, living off of welfare, which was a "Family tradition", and still being able to have a 50 inch flat screen tv.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    June 21, 2011 at 5:26 am
    xCYBERDYNEx: That kind of `poverty`, here in America, is obviously nowhere near the dirt poor poverty that these people live in. Homeless people in America eat better out of the dumpsters here than most people in third world countries can with an average wage.

    There will always be poor and rich, for reasons that are obvious to even the casual observer.

    I`ve seen `poor` people here in America win the lottery for millions of dollars and then piss it all away within a few years ending up just as poor if not poorer than they were before.

    I`ve also seen rich people loose it all in the stock market and then bounce back because of who they were friends with and after a few years become rich again.
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    EgalM Male 30-39
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    June 21, 2011 at 7:55 am
    Gonna have to blame the parents here, their the ones who put them into the situation, they could just as easily walk away one night. It`s only one guy, what`s he going do, track you down and bring you back, wouldn`t be worth his time.

    After a quick Google of what exactly is Bonded Labour, they just have to make it to any country where it`s illegal, which is almost all of them. Easier said than done I`m sure, but where there`s a will there`s a way.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    June 21, 2011 at 11:56 pm
    @CrakrJak
    Oh i agree, i was just pointing out to Angilion that there are people that will choose to live in poverty

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