Arrested For Recording A Public Meeting In Wash DC

Submitted by: angrymonkey 6 years ago in

This reporter was arrested for filming someone being arrested at a public city meeting. Our rights--slowly slipping away
There are 56 comments:
Male 2,384
fuc k the police, the police state is upon us
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Male 4,902
Powertrippin
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Male 176
wait rights? we had f-u-c- king rights?!?!?! where the hell have I been because I thought I was a slave to the state this whole time?
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Male 684
@gerry lmao:)
@5cats and cracker, i was just wondering what you contributed here, and why you come. now i understand:)sort of at least...
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Male 759
CrakrJak,

Neither do lawyers.
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Male 40,756
Hee hee, welcome to the furry-side @Ripper398, have a cookie!

Thanks for pointing that out @Scuziod, you were more polite than I would have likely been.

She`s a "taxi comissioner"!!! FFS! Give some people a title and they turn into Nazis!
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Male 15,270
Reporter won big time. He got a great story, will be paid for interviews, improved his profile and can get a bonus for suing the officers, PD, the operator of the venue and possibly the taxi commissioner. I should be so lucky.
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Male 533
We haven`t had the right to record ANYTHING/ANYWHERE in/on DC federal property in a long time now. :|
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Male 17,511
tatripp: Unfortunately police are not lawyers and DO NOT have a comprehensive understanding of all the laws.

What happened here is this taxi commissioner (the black woman in the brown suit) objected to being recorded and told the officers to arrest the people recording the meeting. The taxi commissioner likely had enough political clout, that the officer knew about, that the officer knew if he didn`t follow her orders he`d probably be fired or at least reprimanded. So the officer followed orders, even though they were illegal.

I`m sure the officers were aware of the conflicting nature of the arrest they performed, but they picked the lesser of two potential punishments for themselves, and that is NOT how the law should work.

The political clout of one person should never trump the constitutional rights of others.
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Male 1,268
(Yes, it was Judge Napolitano. Yes, he is easily the most libertarian judge in the media. That said, he`s still a voice on Fox News, an outlet most would assume to back up anything the boots on the ground of the police and military force do. Not necessarily their leadership.)
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Male 1,268
You`re wrong on almost every account tatripp. We DO know the full story, hell, the guy recording this was interviewed on FOX NEWS where even they thought this was ridiculous. There are plenty of cops stupid enough to do what is done in this video. These aren`t even real cops (I may get flak for saying that, but whatever), they`re parks department officers.
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Male 1,196
we don`t know the whole situation. what the officer did might have been legal if the man had disorderly conduct before the video. hey you guys, i have something shocking to tell you... officers actually know the law; they have to go to school for it. No officer would ever do something as stupid as what appears to be happening in this video.
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Female 383
Police are being ridiculous and abusing their rights.
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Male 1,268
@iceblack 5cats is making a point. The point is under our constitution, this (asking the reporter to stop recording a public hearing) IS an illegal request. As far as this reporter is concerned, it`s such an outrageous illegal request, he was perfectly willing to go to jail for disobeying it, as was the guy who recorded the arrest itself (He too went to jail and is also charged with disorderly conduct and unlawful entry.)
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Male 528
atleast the police in my city have a sense of humour and a certain sense of "what`s a crime" and "what is not"
*********/lancashire/UK :D
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Male 551
@5cats
"Hey! You! I ORDER you to take this baseball bat and beat that woman over there to death! What? Refusing orders AGAIN! You`ll hang for that, scumbag.
Get the point?"

Emm... You forgot one little thing. Every order from a policemen
is an order you must follow, EXCEPT when that order implies an
illegal action

If a cop orders you to do something illegal (For which he has no
explicit permission, like an order from a judge, which wouldn`t
be illegal in that case) then you can and should refuse to do so...

If the cop arrest you after that, well that`s another issue but,
you can sue him for making an illegal arrest. It is in the law,
you can refuse an order when that order implies something illegal
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Male 21
They aren`t pursuing the charges on the two men. Clearly at least the attorney general`s office understands that what the police did was not legal. Now the question is whether these two reporters will sue or not.
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Male 1,313
drat. I agree with 5cats for once. I swore this day would never happen too =oP
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Male 38
We`re with the guy, thats why we said absolutely nothing while he was being arrested.
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Male 40,756
Hey @Rick_S!
I`m a cop, I ORDER you to drop your pants and grab your ankles! What? You refuse! Well I`ll arrest you with perfect justification then!

(after @Rick_S is released on probation)

Hey! You! I ORDER you to take this baseball bat and beat that woman over there to death! What? Refusing orders AGAIN! You`ll hang for that, scumbag.

Get the point?

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Male 40,756
Hey @WeePee, when the "police" come to haul the Jews away, you`ll support them 100% I`ll wager.

"It`s perfectly legal! The Reich passed a law!"

This is typical of the us/them polarization in Western Society and it`s only going to get worse. Actually a LOT of the world already thinks this way, but we`re supposed to be "more enlightened" eh?

I completely blame the left, for a huge variety of reasons which the lefties wouldn`t believe in a million years, so I`ll spare y`all any examples.

Off to read what @CrackJak wrote, sounds GOOD!
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Male 153
Normally, I take the devils advocate on most arrests when dealing with police officer arrests, but this one is over the top. I don`t get how this could even come close to being legal.
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Male 3,477
Bull dung
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Male 6,227
@WeePee: As a progressive, I don`t often find myself agreeing with CrakrJak. But in this case, I agree with him 100%. I can`t improve a word of what he already wrote, so I`ll simply reapeat it below.

AJ: No public meeting, by law, can ban recording devices. Open meetings go to the very core of the first amendment and America having responsible government.
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Male 218
"WeePee looks like he was given adequate time and warnings to stop what he was doing before actually being arrested. his own fault the cuffs came out, not an officer abusing power"

Turns out it doesnt matter how much time and warnings he gives you since theres no reazon to ask him to stop what he was doign and why? because its a PUBLIC MEETING! he actually has the right to report if he wants to now the officer said "i can arrest you for not following orders" but why would an officer "order" you to stop doing somethng when you have the right to do so? so yeah that actually IS abusing power
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Male 382
And of course the person that recorded this reporter being hauled off was not arrested. Freedom of speech and the press are gone. Can we charge the cities with street cameras for recording our every action? Cops want all the video someone took of civilian fights so they can find the perp. But record a cop abusing someone and they kick the crap out of you. cell phone tracking is also way up there with invasion of privacy.
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Male 612
looks like he was given adequate time and warnings to stop what he was doing before actually being arrested. his own fault the cuffs came out, not an officer abusing power.
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Male 25,416
This is getting bad!
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Male 1,010
United Nations Human Rights Committee tabled in 2006 states that in the United States, the "War on Terror" has "created a generalized climate of impunity for law enforcement officers, and contributed to the erosion of what few accountability mechanisms exist for civilian control over law enforcement agencies. As a result, police brutality and abuse persist unabated and undeterred across the country."
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Male 1,268
"For that reason, he will get off with no charges filed."

Says you, but this WAS a parks department arrest in DC. I find it very likely this was a completely legal arrest under some ridiculous homeland security provision.
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Male 406
Power drunk corrupt pigs and greedy politicians. The end is nigh.
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Male 3,431
Wut Teh Ufck.
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Male 3,332
He wasn`t arrested for recording the meeting, he was arrested for not following an order given by the police officer.

Think of it this way. If you are being unjustly arrested, and you resist without violence (refuse to stand up) on the basis that you are not being arrested lawfully or justly, you`re still resisting arrest.

The reporter, as whiny as he was, was right about the fact that it was a public meeting, and as a reporter, he had a right to record the meeting. For that reason, he will get off with no charges filed. The officer should be reprimanded and retrained, but probably won`t be.
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Male 77
I think police offficers should get paid more, but i also believe that it should be alot harder to be a police officer. Lawyers have to go to college for liek 4 years to learn the law I think police officers should as well to be able to properly enforce the law, also maybe take a psychological evaluation too. Then maybe then we will have Police officers and not thugs with badges. Because right now police seem to be gangs who do what ever they want.
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Male 140
They let just anyone pass as a cop nowadays huh?
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Male 1,268
"He was in a room full of black people."

I was pretty surprised to see your ban wasn`t permanent.
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Male 910
He was in a room full of black people.
he asked them to arrest him so he had an excuse to leave because he was scared, but fearing the blacks would dislike him.this was he can leave the black people to think he is one of the cool white guys
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Male 6,227
I`m a former reporter (print) and I`m speechless. If I didn`t see the video, I might not have believed it. Honestly, I`m at a loss for words.
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Female 737
See- THIS is outrages. This is worth getting arrested for. THIS is where we need to fight for our rights(Opposed to the video a page back with the woman annoying the cop for Lulz.)
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Male 718
This is the root of the ENTIRE problem we are having. Cops think they are better then us, and they simply are not. actually they are LESS then human life-forms. they become cops to push people around. little kids dont grow up to become a police officer anymore, they grow up to become a COP. so they can order people around like some sort of dratin demi god
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Male 490
"i can arrest you for not obeying an order", everyone must bow down before your superior and all knowing officers!
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Male 2,669
I imagine the cop was later reprimanded for failing to tase the reporter `for his own safety.`

I`m sorry, I neglected to put the word `hero` in front of cop. Hero cop. That`s what I meant.
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Male 1,268
Charged with disorderly conduct and unlawful entry. I don`t know DC laws, but after that mass arrest on people dancing at the memorial, these charges will likely stick. This isn`t a case of do what the police say or else. This is most likely horrible law making as this was once again a parks department arrest. This absolutely should NOT be illegal, but it very likely is.
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Male 17,511
AJ: No public meeting, by law, can ban recording devices. Open meetings go to the very core of the first amendment and America having responsible government.
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Male 17,511
It`s a public meeting, the guy is a reporter. According to the open meetings law and the first amendment all meetings of this kind can be freely recorded, with or without consent of the parties involved.
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Male 591
Slowly?
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Male 39,927

*America: Land of the **Free.



* "America" is a registered trademark of U.S. corporations.
** no actual freedoms are expressed or implied.
Any similarity to oppressive regimes is strictly coincidental unless said regime is regulated by federal law wherever applicable.
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Male 77
Here in the Netherlands, if you can identify yourself as official press. Then no cop, no security personnel can touch your or arrest you at a public event, unless you are committing a crime (journalism is not a crime) or interfering with their work.

And that is exactly how it should be, everywhere.
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Male 354
Yes, the land of the free. Where we have freedom of he press, but not when they don`t want you to film it.

People like auburnjunky are the ones that make me embarrassed to be a part of this country.
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Male 490
Auburnjunky:
Is it something that warrants an arrest? What did he do just then that impeded on someone else`s freedom?
If nothing, then why should be he arrested?

Idealistically, the govt is there to ensure our freedom. Police are there to ensure that individuals are following the law and, ergo, aren`t impeding on others` freedom. Why was this fellow arrested?
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Male 96
"my god" indeed.. people outraged by injustice.. the nerve
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Male 10,338
In other words, follow the rules, don`t get arrested.


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Male 2,669
Where are the adoring crowds to cheer for the hero cop?

Looks like he forgot his SS uniform that day, though.
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Male 10,338
if recording devices were banned before the meeting (which they almost always are) then there is nothing wrong here.
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Male 599
Have been for a long time and it`s going to get worse. As the sheep look then go back to grazing
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Female 48
Link: Arrested For Recording A Public Meeting In Wash DC [Rate Link] - This reporter was arrested for filming someone being arrested at a public city meeting. Our rights--slowly slipping away
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