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141 Responses to Showing Affection @ Thomas Jefferson Memorial

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    madest Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2011 at 8:52 pm
    Link: Showing Affection @ Thomas Jefferson Memorial - Is illegal apparently. Come to DC, see the memorials and check out our Nation Capitals Gestapo.
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    Cartunze Male 60-69
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:10 pm
    When you think about what kind of person would want to be a police officer, you understand this behavior.
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    walterppj Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:11 pm
    Feels like there`s more to this story than the video shows.
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    walterppj Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    Yep - Looks like it was a flashmob and getting arrested was their intent - to give them an opportunity to challenge a recent court ruling. Story Here
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    nakoninja Male 18-29
    354 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 9:20 pm
    THE HELL?!

    this is really depressing. i can understand not being allowed to have PDA in a place like that (ridiculous but i can understand it). but the force they used on some of those people went beyond what was needed and unless it has changed since my last CJ class illegal.

    sigh this is depressing
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    nakoninja Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:22 pm
    @cartunze i hope you are not implying that the way they are treated is because of people that want to be police officers... most people in the law enforcement field are not like this. they are upstanding individuals that want to help their fellow man and know that they are going into a job field where they will be treated like poo for bad pay. dont try to say that all officers are like the ones you see online in videos such as this
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    Solvent Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:24 pm
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    Psychodelli Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    I can help them with their people skills. I would help if they werent such dicks.
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
    937 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    whaaaaaat the drat happened there
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    Enjin Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:26 pm
    What a messed up world we live in where we need to have a law to tell people not to act like a jackass at a memorial.
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    skullgrin Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    "@cartunze i hope you are not implying that the way they are treated is because of people that want to be police officers... most people in the law enforcement field are not like this. they are upstanding individuals that want to help their fellow man and know that they are going into a job field where they will be treated like poo for bad pay. dont try to say that all officers are like the ones you see online in videos such as this"

    maybe where you`re from, but thats not how it is in America
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    Enjin Male 30-39
    802 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 9:31 pm
    @Cartunze
    "When you think about what kind of person would want to be a police officer, you understand this behavior."

    I honestly don`t think that applies at all here. These guys simply upheld a law and were respectful, only used minimal force when resisted. These people were begging to have the cops come and abuse them, it seems like that was the goal. But I don`t think that is what happened at all.
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    mandingo3519 Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:35 pm
    well this is no surprise to me at least. After all i was arrested several years ago in DC, the crime ..... Singing God Bless America at the Lincoln Memorial. My crime was its a felony to face a monument while singing . DC needs to re-thing their damn laws
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    PoopNoodle Male 40-49
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    I acknowledge there is a chance this video doesn`t show the whole story. But speaking from personal experience, I can attest that Americans enjoy less and less freedoms every day.
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    Hoofer Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    Thanks for keeping us safe from terrible dancers America. Without you, we`d be in trouble.
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    username3415 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:45 pm
    i want to be a cop and be on their side! YES!!
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    nakoninja Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:47 pm
    @skull look again i am from USA. i am in a law enforcement job field. i get exposed to more cops than the average person. the average person only remembers the few bad cops but forget the ones that are nice and courteous. why? because its easier to remember a dick than someone that was nice. the average human isnt all around a horrible person most just dont care. yet if you listen to stories in any job that deals with customer service all the customers sound like the devil. why? because that is the customer you remember long term not the nice polite person that let you did your job.
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    mischief83 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 9:50 pm
    cmon, they were acting like idiots, no one got tased or punched even though it was a large group that was resisting. Overall I thought the cops handled it pretty well (physically-- as far as verbal, they kinda sounded like idiots). Now I don`t know why the dancing law, but I bet it wouldn`t be enforced if you weren`t acting like an idiot, as these people were.
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    MrYouKnow Male 13-17
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:02 pm
    Honestly, there`s idiocy in both parties here.
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    Swaywithme Female 18-29
    3696 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 10:10 pm
    Everyday I`m shuff-shufflin
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    korahn Male 30-39
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:15 pm
    Please target anyone on America`s Got Talent or So You Think You Can Dance next.
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    LazyMe484 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:20 pm
    Meh.

    I noticed that guy had code pink on his shirt so I decided I don`t care what happens to him.

    Could there be stupidity on both sides? Yes.
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    green_batman Female 18-29
    728 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 10:25 pm
    It sounds like the cops were just doing their jobs, but the laws involved are incredibly stupid and authoritarian. This just makes me angry.
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    OutWest Male 50-59
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:29 pm
    I think it`s obvious they got the reaction they wanted. I am sure had it taken more on their part to garner the handcuffs, that would have been what was done.
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    Fleaman1797 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:44 pm
    i hate cops. actually hate is not the word to use. if i could round all of em up and drown them in piss i would do so without thinking twice. hows that?
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    Obliviously Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 10:49 pm
    Example of cops taking things too far and people pushing them further.
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    Corpsecrank Male 30-39
    930 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 10:57 pm
    I would have warned that park cop not to touch me one time and then I would have let loose like a wild animal. He isn`t a real cop and I am pretty sure he doesn`t have enough authority to actually cuff someone.
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    PaintedNInja Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:00 pm
    reminds me a movie, with a song, that has this chorus:

    Loose, footloose
    Kick off your Sunday shoes
    Please, Louise
    Pull me off of my knees
    Jack, get back
    C`mon before we crack
    Lose your blues
    Everybody cut footloose.

    You`re playing so cool
    Obeying every rule
    Dig way down in your heart
    You`re burning, yearning for some
    Somebody to tell you
    That life ain`t a passing you by
    I`m trying to tell you
    It will if you don`t even try
    You can fly if you`d only cut
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    Oldfrt Male 50-59
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:04 pm
    He isn`t a real cop and I am pretty sure he doesn`t have enough authority to actually cuff someone.

    They are indeed "real" cops and have same authority as city police. Not saying what they did is right, and I`m not saying what they did is wrong. Not enough information on what preceded the video. It could be those arrested were doing something else wrong, or were intentionally trying to goad the police into an incident so that they could post their self-righteous video on the internet. Or the cops could be idiots. Who knows?
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    incubus_inc Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:06 pm
    This is no small debate. We are moving towards a police state imo and this example is an excellent proof of that change which has already begun.
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    PaintedNInja Male 18-29
    96 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:06 pm
    @ Corpsecrank

    So i have been told/read (could be wrong) They have more power than they should/ more power than your local police. I`m not sure if anyone else knows this but dance activated terrorist dirty/nuclear/suicide bombs are a very serious threat also. Reference here: ______(?)
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    IceDragon77 Male 18-29
    490 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:07 pm
    Code Pink? Go officers! Kick their butts!

    Side note: You see what freedoms we loose every day in this country? Though I can kinda understand DC.. ish.. Dancing person as a distraction for something bigger to happen. Meh.
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    TheShgn2 Male 13-17
    626 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:20 pm
    I really hate most cops. Most think that they are above everyone else, and therefor get to do whatever they want. Yes, they protect us, but they are complete non-nice individuals most of the time
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    laxdef36 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:24 pm
    Thomas Jefferson would be embarrassed that US has turned in to what it is.

    feed me
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    BLiTZxxKRiEG Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:26 pm
    Dancing in public: Good
    Getting arrested for it: Bad
    Resisting arrest: Very bad
    Arresting people without warning for standing there: WTF?

    It seems like the only issue here is the location which you choose to dance, pissing off police is never a good idea.
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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:28 pm
    Coming from a law enforcement background I generally agree with the Officers. In this case you can see they are being taunted and what not, but that happens to us everyday. You have got to have thick skin to do the job. It`s typical of these kinds of videos for the camera to be turned on later only as the Officers are being forced to do their job. If these idiots were in violation of the rules of the memorial and would not comply then they did what they had to. Fleaman1797-you are a fu*king moron, wonder who your going to call when your pussy ass is in danger, dick.
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    venice08 Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:52 pm
    It`s disrespectful and freaking stupid plus they should be arrested for being hipster doofuses`s`s`s`

    Guy with a gun tells you to do something do it.
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    Skittzo Female 18-29
    185 posts
    May 28, 2011 at 11:56 pm
    The not so great thing about America is that it`s people seem to forget that by choosing to live somewhere, you are beholden to the rules and the laws of that place/country/ect. We here have the power to work to change them, but we`re still supposed to respect and obey them, even if we think they`re dumb. The right to Freedom of speech does not equate the ability to break the rules. No offense intended to moronic "lovers" but I`d go there to enjoy the sights, not indulge in foreplay.
    And in no way should their idiocy be compared to basic rights. We have the right earn equal pay for equal work, to be treated equally. Not use a national monument as a make-out spot.
    As for cops. Most of them are good people, and therefore I`m going to believe in all of them until they give me reason not to. (Just like how we`re supposed to have respect/faith in our fellow individual.)
    /blabbing
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    dragosal Male 18-29
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    May 28, 2011 at 11:58 pm
    they were arrested while protesting a ruling against dancing within the memorial. in this protest they knowingly danced, which they knew was an arrestable offence. the ruling came to be because a flash mob decided to dance within the memorial. now if you look at this one dimensionally then yes the ruling against dancing is bogus. BUT the ruling was against the flash mob that was disturbing the peace. and that is what flash mobs do, sure it can be entertaining but it is still a disturbance. and not to mention this is a memorial to an important person in american history, it should be treated with some form of respect. and the force was far from excessive. the teachers at my HS were more violent then these cops were... and mandingo you were rightfully arrested. sure your intent would appear to be patriotic but you were also disturbing the peace in a place that deserves respect.
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    mervviscious Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:01 am
    power corupts absolutely
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    BrainBits Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:03 am
    fake as drating hell and not even well done. "US Park Police"? Have any of you ever been to DC?
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    ryan99 Male 13-17
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:16 am
    @Venice08

    So we should be a nation controlled in fear? You`ve got the wrong idea, buddy.

    I understand cops want to enforce some form of stability, and I honest to God agree with them in most cases; I hate people who defy just to defy, but this wasn`t even something worth having started. You can`t hug or kiss in the memorial? Can`t dance? There`s a major problem here when little things like that become an apparent problem.
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    BRKNVLTR Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:28 am
    I think the TVA in TN has an office for park police. Seems I`ve heard of someone being ticketed by them and it being a really expensive ticket because it`s federal.
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    carmium Female 50-59
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:37 am
    There aren`t many times I could say "This would never happen in Canada," - and I know our cops aren`t all angels - but I really think this is one of those times. What the hell is becoming of the land that once held the beacon of freedom aloft for the world to see?
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    WeePee Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:38 am
    "I really hate most cops. Most think that they are above everyone else, and therefor get to do whatever they want. Yes, they protect us, but they are complete non-nice individuals most of the time"

    the reason they are non-nice individuals is because they are risking, possibly their lives, to help ungrateful people like you. you try working a job helping out citizens when many, if not most, of them just despise you for doing it. you wouldn`t be very nice to the morons either.
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    CrakrJak Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:41 am
    So they knew it was illegal and decided to break the law on purpose to taunt the police into arresting them, then they complain that they got arrested for what they wanted to get arrested for.

    Yup that sounds about par for the course for code pink hippies.
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    fuad119 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 12:55 am
    Ok fine I`ll start the chant... USA!USA!USA!...
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    aedion Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 1:03 am
    Wow. Just wow. That can`t be real! I thought that the USA was a country where citizens had rights - obviously my mistake.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 1:08 am
    "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

    This demonstration was in protest of a federal judge`s decision to throw out a suit from Mary Oberwetter, arrested in 2008 for dancing inside the memorial, claiming that incedent was a violation of her 1st ammendment rights.

    So, if you`re keeping score. Unlimited corporate donations to political candidates is constitutionally protected free speech. Dancing as a form of public demonstration in a public monument is not. Got it? Good.
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 1:15 am
    @auburnjunky. Some time travel must be involved then, because the incedent being protested here happened around midnight, April 15th, 2008.
    Original arrest for dancing
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    Ruffiana Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 1:17 am
    @brainbits: United States Park Police - District 1
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    keith2 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 2:20 am
    Yeah I like to do that from time to time.. but come on? Right in front of one of our monuments? Are we not taking pride in our national heritage anymore? I really don`t mean to sound corny but seriously.. Not in front of the dead president, please? Thanks!
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    gbrzeatetee Male 30-39
    174 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 2:22 am
    Finally, a law to prevent white people from dancing.
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    varietyweasl Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 2:37 am
    the police`s actions here are nothing but disgraceful. the idiots who posted here should ask themselves what sort of country the wish to live in. it was unnecessary use of force. why didn`t the police just ignore them, they are self-righteous attention seekers, but not a flashmob. the police caused much more disturbance than they prevented. shame on you DC police
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    HalfPintRoo Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 2:39 am
    I think the laws are stupid, yes, but they knew them and decided to break them for demonstration so they`re more stupid then the law itself.

    Come on... Is that really worth fighting for? "OMG they took away our rights inside Thomas Jefferson`s Memorial!!"
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    I-Am-Goatse Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 2:45 am
    So glad I don`t live in D.C. anymore. Might be our nations capital but seriously, f*ck that place.
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 3:55 am
    WHAT? I really don`t understand this, what did they do wrong? I can`t see anything even remotely illegal..
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    CreamK Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 4:00 am
    Arrested for dancing in public place? For hugging and kissing? This kind of laws needs for every citizen to go and dance there.. I`m furious and i don`t even live in US. Also, a bit old clip but haven`t seen this before.
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    daroofa Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 4:13 am
    Get a room. It`s obvious they weren`t there for the right reasons.
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    hypno1 Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 4:30 am
    First off, they did this with an agenda and full intention of getting arrested, filming it, and getting publicity. They knew it was illegal and they got what was coming to them.

    Second, this is a MEMORIAL, a place of reverence and respect, not a place to dance around, make out, and act like a jackass. By their logic, they should also be able to go dance around at the Vietnam and WWII memorials. Good luck with that.

    These idiots are nothing but publicity whores.
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    madest Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 4:49 am
    No this was an arrest for two people sharing affection. They were ordered to stop for no apparent reason and were treated poorly when they didn`t comply. We don`t live in the Minority report where people are pre-arrested for crimes they`ve yet to commit. The police in DC should know better. I`m certain this will come back to haunt the officers.
    And since when is a flash-mob criminal? I`m disgusted at the Park Police.
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    deeplick Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 5:07 am
    I am a republican, I am a christian. I believe though many things are wrong with society. I believe we need to stop bashing gays, we need to legalize pot, and we need to put a stop to the police who think they are above the law.

    Cops like this are the problem with our society, not the people who were dancing and holding each other in a embrace. Its not like they were naked and having sex. Ignorant cops and ignorant government.
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    blckhawk1234 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 5:21 am
    how come they never noticed the camera. Fake?
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    EntrE Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:21 am
    once more i wonder what`s going on in your absurd country over there. arresting people for kissing and dancing? WTF?! america is a messed up place. and why is there not a single officer there that seems to have any common sense and stop that BS? and since when do memorials close??? memorials are public places, public places don`t close.
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    8jdb28jdb2 Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:33 am
    I`d say disambiguity concerning the actual law is at play here.

    Was fair warning given to the dancers? Could have the situation been mitigated? Did the actions of the arresting officers cause the proceeding common nuisance? Where the actions of the officers justified in defending a public monument?

    At least the officers respected the consitution enough to allow for video camera to provide a true and honest account. It`s intent seemed not to be a participant in the events.
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    Ziggy12345 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:35 am
    The existing law states "the Jefferson Memorial is a nonpublic forum."
    The existing law states the Government can stop people from engaging in "the conduct of which has the effect, intent or propensity to draw a crowd or onlookers".

    Source

    Court Document
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    edana42 Female 50-59
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:36 am
    I`m gonna go out on a limb here and say there is so much more to this than the filmmakers have shown. I would like to see about 20 minutes BEFORE they started filming.
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    Ziggy12345 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:39 am
    The Cops were carrying out the law (It`s their Job)

    The real question should be "Is the law just?"
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    Oscola Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:40 am
    I don`t get it at all, what caused more commotion, the kiss or the subsequent arrests? A cuddle and a kiss in a place like that is fine, if it was an orgy it would be different, or if they used tongues for too long, no-one wants to see that, especially on that woman, she looked like a crackhead, on second thoguhts, send em away.
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    Ziggy12345 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:52 am
    To the defense: "what caused more commotion, the kiss or the arrests"

    That`s like saying:
    A cop is in a high speed car chase...
    The guy who is speeding runs a stop sign...
    The cop should not run the stop sign and has to come to a complete stop before continuing the chase.
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    SaintsFan Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:52 am
    While the officers were out of line with their tactics, I do believe that there are greater issues with much more importance than that of dancing at the Jefferson Memorial. No doubt the cops had the same thought and thought that these people were more of a nuisance. Still, it does not excuse their actions. In addition, I don`t think that this is a flash mob. It`s more of like a flash group gone bad.
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    Wendypants Female 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 6:59 am
    Ziggy12345, if you`re right then the cops should almost have arrested themselves! Oh, well, the USA is getting more effed up day by day; land of the free? HA. ... Actually I shouldn`t say anything, Canada is slowly heading in the same direction.
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    MightyPeanut Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:00 am
    these losers should be at work....jeesh.
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    CaptKangaroo Male 50-59
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:03 am
    Having been back in the states after a couple of decades living overseas,I am perplexed by the state America is in.Almost like a weird alternate universe where Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany bore a bastard nation.An old saying here:Love your country,fear your government;Relevant now more than ever.
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    chimmeychang Male 30-39
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:15 am
    at first i was confused, the film made it look like the couple was begin arrested for nothing but being snugly in a public place...but what the guys said during the arrest about dancing made it obvious that they had probably been provoking the police to solicit the reaction they filmed.The fact that the whole thing wasn`t filmed makes it very much suspect, like the kid in school who does all kinds of stuff to other kids then makes sure a teacher sees it when he gets what he deserves, but makes him look like a victim, you know they type. The police seemed to be aware they were being filmed, they were getting more physical than seemed merited for the situation, so chances are they were doing what they were paid to do.I am tired of all police getting a bad rep because of the ones that abuse authority.Police are paid to deal with the stupidest of stupid, and the dangerous folk no one want`s to cross.Good cop, bad cop, most would get between you and a gun any day of the week.
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    patchouly Male 40-49
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:17 am
    Land of the free? LOL!
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:20 am

    Well, they should be happy.
    They went to a place where protests, including dance-offs, were banned in order to provoce the police into arresting them.
    They got to dance AND get arrested.

    Win - Win right?

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    chrn368 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:29 am
    Well ziggy it doesn`t matter what the existing law states. There`s a law that over rides it. It`s called the constitution. Freedom of speech and expression and the right to assemble are protected by that. they are violating the constitution by arresting these people, because those are the things they were doing. These guys are nazi`s and anyone defending these cops are nazis. Get your heads out of your asses.
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    chrn368 Male 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:31 am
    also I find it ironic that this is at the Jefferson memorial. If Jefferson were alive to see this he`d keel over and die...again. In disgust.
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    Gleeballs Female 18-29
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    May 29, 2011 at 7:36 am
    kind of horrible. they shouldve just escorted them off the premise.
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    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3441 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:39 am
    Behave yourselves out in public. You let one person have a dance off and the next thing you know the pukes make it a party place where they write graffiti on the nice monument and pee and poop all over the place like animals. Act your age and your color.
  82. Profile photo of deltaumarcus
    deltaumarcus Male 18-29
    1958 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:42 am
    chrn368 You just Godwin`d. Your argument is rendered incredibly invalid.
  83. Profile photo of tommy2X4
    tommy2X4 Male 50-59
    3441 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:43 am
    You are meant to think, "This is a job for Kevin Bacon!"
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    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    549 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:46 am
    Honestly. This looks fake and gay.
  85. Profile photo of BBJellyFish
    BBJellyFish Male 18-29
    549 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:47 am
    Well. . . maybe not lol!
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    BDT1981 Male 18-29
    132 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 8:00 am
    If I could I`d be doing the Macarena and the electric slide and something from Footloose (just to make a point) on the memorial.

    It is a great thought that if they just let the flashmop go, it would have been 5 minutes and nobody would have heard of it.

    On the other hand being arrested is part of protesting.
  87. Profile photo of Kaagan
    Kaagan Male 18-29
    1596 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 8:51 am
    these damn hipples always wanting to get arrested
  88. Profile photo of Kaagan
    Kaagan Male 18-29
    1596 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 8:54 am
    "kind of horrible. they shouldve just escorted them off the premise."

    im sure they tried and they refused too. this video was made to make the cops/security look bad. i mean just think, in the beggining why in the world would you video tape two ppl hugging.
  89. Profile photo of VAJENGA
    VAJENGA Male 30-39
    532 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 8:59 am
    The majority of cops and other law enforcement types are weak minded, scared individuals who have no real power or control over their own lives so they choose a field where they get a gun and badge to hide behind while being obnoxious douchebags. I hate people who say "DERRRR when your in trouble who are you gonna call first?" NOT THE FRIGGING COPS because they take about 45 minutes to show up here in NYC and you`ll be long dead before they get there. That is unless of course you are one of them in which case 15 cop cars will surround the 80 year old man who`s such a threat because he raised his voice to Herr officer. Laws are necessary and so are people to uphold them, but the law enforcement people of today are nothing more than bullies and criminals themselves. Awww they do a thankless job for little pay? WAH go get another job then stupid pigs.
  90. Profile photo of CrakrJak
    CrakrJak Male 40-49
    17515 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 9:12 am
    Madest: they were slow dancing, embracing each other yes, but in a slow dance. The source for the video on youtube even says this was a protest against the judge`s ruling on an earlier case involving a `flash mob` dancing at the same memorial.

    These protesters wanted to get arrested, They wouldn`t comply after being asked nicely and taunted the park police. They got what they wanted, to be arrested, so they shouldn`t complain about it.
  91. Profile photo of ggolbez
    ggolbez Male 18-29
    1933 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 9:39 am
    "All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression." - Thomas Jefferson

    The fact that they are getting arrested in front of his statue is the worst form of irony I have ever seen.
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    kameo360fan Female 13-17
    383 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 9:48 am
    Jesus drat, they weren`t even doing anything.
    I`m not American, but damn I would be if police were like that.
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    SunDevilDog Male 18-29
    11 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 9:58 am
    Judging from the shirts they had to do something before they started filming. There wouldn`t of been that many cops there to begin with. They just made a bad situation worse.
  94. Profile photo of trippyhippy9
    trippyhippy9 Male 18-29
    559 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:10 am
    All cops are not pieces of poo, just the ones that act like this.
  95. Profile photo of zephid
    zephid Male 30-39
    92 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:15 am
    I would like a legal team at the precinct so when an officer `thinks` someone is committing a crime they can call in a short description of the offence.
    Call back says it`s not a crime, person is free to go. And arresting them? Non-violent crime, give them a citation and let them hash it out with the judge. As for those of you that have said that they got what they wanted, to be arrested. Any time you see your government doing something, you as a citizen don`t approve of, is an opportunity for civil disobedience. Rosa Parks knew what she was doing and knew that she would be arrested.
  96. Profile photo of trippyhippy9
    trippyhippy9 Male 18-29
    559 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:29 am
    Ok, I took 5 minutes and got the back story on this. There was a recent decision that banned dancing in certain memorials. They got arrested for dancing. The reason it is illegal seems to be because it is a form of protest and it is illegal to hold protests or demonstrations inside the memorial.
  97. Profile photo of Toider
    Toider Male 18-29
    452 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:47 am
    There was a recent decision that banned dancing in certain memorials.

    You mean to tell me these tools were purposefully toeing the line to provoke a response? They`re deserving of no sympathy in that case.
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    ForSquirel Male 30-39
    2058 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 10:49 am
    get a drating job and dance there.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25408 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 11:43 am
    If the law was passed for dancing to be against the law at memorials and these people intentionally did that for the reaction then they deserve what they have been put through, personally a single warning would have been appropriate before the arrests were made. I am not sure as to why the affection was an arrestable offence?
  100. Profile photo of Ontario
    Ontario Male 18-29
    229 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 12:32 pm
    Wow, in Canada, you can even smoke pot in our capital buildings xD no one could care less if hobos were having sex on parliament hill
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    Ziggy12345 Male 18-29
    5 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    @Ontario
    Way to go Canada!
  102. Profile photo of bobert54321
    bobert54321 Male 18-29
    142 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 12:57 pm
    Wow, I am shocked at how many people are bashing them for having an agenda or wanting to get arrested. Of course they did. They where protesting against a law.

    I realize that laws are usually in place for a reason, but government is made up of people that are put in charge to run the country FOR its inhabitants. If its inhabitants don`t like any part of how the country is being run, as citizens of the country, it is expected to protest against any and all parts of the government they think is wrong. Legal or not.

    The kind of submissive "it`s a law, so it much be right" or "the government is always right" viewpoint is what allowed the worst dictators in history to stay in power. I`m not saying the U.S. is a dictatorship, but the government is still human. It is NOT infallible.
  103. Profile photo of Trojan
    Trojan Male 18-29
    511 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 1:36 pm
    I`m sick of all these Alex Jones-type douchebags who think that they`re the only ones stopping America from becoming a dictatorship. Calm down, alright? Your intentions are honorable but you just come off as annoying jerks.
  104. Profile photo of Crazysanity
    Crazysanity Male 18-29
    23 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 2:02 pm
    "You cannot stop them from dancing"

    OH NOES! Footloose is becoming reality. Where`s Kevin Bacon when you need him?
  105. Profile photo of hypno1
    hypno1 Male 30-39
    69 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    @bobert5432 If that`s the case, what do you think the outcome would be if we put it to a national vote? Do you think the majority of Americans would want to overturn the current laws in place regarding the monuments on the national mall, or do you think they would want to keep the laws that prevent people from dancing around and making out two feet from the MEMORIAL to one of the founders of our country?
  106. Profile photo of Yap71
    Yap71 Male 30-39
    150 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 3:35 pm
    "Hey! i gots an idear! lets go do something technically not illegal, but still create a public nuisance, get the attention of police, resist arrest, then act like the US has become a dictatorship when they take me in!" this is like, 60 percent of IAB videos now, but at least people are acknowledging that these people are almost completely at fault. dont deliberately stir the pot to test a cops limits.
  107. Profile photo of bobert54321
    bobert54321 Male 18-29
    142 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    @hypno1 I don`t claim to know how most Americans would vote if it was put to a national vote without actually having the vote results itself. I personally don`t mind if people dance or kiss as long as it doesn`t get sexual.

    It sounds like my comment is being misinterpreted as that I approve that they did. I never said the way they went about doing the protest was right or wrong or that I agree with what they are protesting about. I was just commenting on how people where condemning the fact that they decided to protest in general.

    @Trojan I`m sorry I worded that a little too strongly. It should say "it is *one* of the reasons that allowed the worst dictators in history to stay in power."

    Also I hope you aren`t referring to me as one of the "Alex Jones-type douchebags" because that isn`t how I think at all. I only respect peoples right to be able to protest as a way to voice their opinions on how the government should help their citizens in
  108. Profile photo of bobert54321
    bobert54321 Male 18-29
    142 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 3:46 pm
    in a way the citizens want them to.*
  109. Profile photo of human_exile
    human_exile Male 13-17
    875 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 4:30 pm
    ...this is your last warning..."*body slap**grabs throat*

    perfectly acceptable to do to a bigger man then you just cause you are "on the laws side"
  110. Profile photo of Shelworth
    Shelworth Male 50-59
    384 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 4:31 pm
    Give me a break, they went there with the premeditated intent to piss off the Police and force a reaction. Since it`s their recording and their editing you have no idea what`s being said or gestured in the background. The Police` primary duty is to protect the other people there, they don`t know how far it will go, someone might have a weapon, so they have to stop this crap fast! Make a sign, protest out front, hand out flyers, write your congressman, etc. change bad laws by using the law.
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    bordo Male 50-59
    907 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 4:41 pm
    We are becoming such a fascist police state and most of you bozos have no %^#&* clue.
  112. Profile photo of nnotdead
    nnotdead Male 18-29
    139 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 5:04 pm
    a group of people went there to protest against people getting arrested at national monuments for dancing. they do this by dancing inside the Jefferson Memorial and getting arrested. job well done.
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    nny156 Male 18-29
    182 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 5:08 pm
    dratING REVOLT KILL THEM TACKLE THEM GRAB THEIR GUNS AND USE THEM AGAINST THEM DONT JUST TURN YOUR dratING HEADS AWAY AND IGNORE IT YOU dratING PUSSYS FIGHT FOR YOUR dratING FREEDOM THATS BEING RIPPED AWAY FROM YOU GOD dratING DAMMIT!!!
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    SmilinSam Female 18-29
    3599 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 6:00 pm
    when can we start calling the police on the police? there has got to be something that can stop this... why they made everyone leave? so they can beat the people in handcuffs in private?
  115. Profile photo of SlothOfDoom
    SlothOfDoom Male 30-39
    2033 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 6:42 pm
    Wait...why isn`t 5Cats here telling is about how only America is free?
  116. Profile photo of jamie76
    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:41 pm
    Freedom in the US died a long time ago. We legislated it to death. Welcome to what I like to call the CRIMINAL STATES of AMERICA, where anything you say, do or think of may be used as grounds for your arrest.
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    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:43 pm
    Trojan,

    SO SORRY BUDDY! while some of us are worried that the US is becoming over dictated with useless laws and are trying to find ways to draw attention to that and stop we we certainly never want you to be annoyed...

    you complete jackass...you are the reason why this crap exist. you are young, stupid and completely oblivious to anything that actually matters. go back to your ipad, by something on a credit card you can;t afford and bitch about not having a job and leave the real work to the rest of us kid.
  118. Profile photo of jamie76
    jamie76 Male 30-39
    2346 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 7:45 pm
    Fatninja01,

    first off, dancing is a FORM OF EXPRESSION, which is PROTECTED by our 1st amendment and making it illegal is the only thing illegal about this video.


    Secondly, PROTESTING is a constitutional right here in the US and some of us believe in it due to its track record of CHANGING THE WORLD more then a few times.
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    Dead_Serious Male 30-39
    28 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 8:22 pm
    I am entertained. Oh, America, you guys are a laugh riot.
  120. Profile photo of Sathon
    Sathon Male 18-29
    248 posts
    May 29, 2011 at 9:02 pm
    It seems clear to me that this was the desired outcome of the protesters. They were there to protest a recent law by blatantly breaking that law in front of police officers and provoking the officers to ensure that they would get arrested.

    It was a fairly effective outcome too, many bystanders saw them getting arrested and the video is going viral on the Internet; I feel like they couldn`t have had a better outcome.

    I totally agree with their cause and my hat goes off to them for knowingly getting arrested to defend a civil liberty, but I don`t see how people can claim that they were unfairly arrested. I do however agree that the police officers in the video were far more aggressive than necessary.

    And PS to the people turning this into a world vs. America thing: the police in the rest of the world (especially here in Canada) are just as bad. Quit your trolling.
  121. Profile photo of temp4comment
    temp4comment Male 60-69
    99 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 12:11 am
    Hippies want choices without consequences. Freedom does not equal no consequences.
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    DuckBoy87 Male 18-29
    3148 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 1:05 am
    In my opinion, the memorials are a place of reverence and respect. Dancing shouldn`t be done there, but on the same token, dancing shouldn`t be illegal either.
  123. Profile photo of jtrebowski
    jtrebowski Male 40-49
    3348 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 2:08 am
    Sathon said: ".....They were there to protest a recent law by blatantly breaking that law in front of police officers....."
    Um...which law?
  124. Profile photo of Tsik
    Tsik Male 30-39
    34 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 3:35 am
    My wife asked if i want to travel for vacation to the us? HAHAHA.
  125. Profile photo of Izaq
    Izaq Male 30-39
    173 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 4:03 am
    20 years ago here in Denmark you would find American flags on t-shirts, caps, cars whatever. Stars and Stripes was a symbol of freedom, spirit, entrepreneurity, optimism and general coolness. You could take anything and put a US flag on it, and it would be a better thing.

    Now you don`t see any US flags anywhere. Not a single one.

    The Stars and Stripes are now symbols of fear, stupidity, ignorance, over consumption, violence, war, excessive use of power and generally everything you do not want to be associated with.

    It`s amazing how USA went from the peak of popularity during Clinton to an absolute low in just a few periods of Bush.

    What the hell is going on over there?
  126. Profile photo of hypno1
    hypno1 Male 30-39
    69 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 4:41 am
    @bobert54321 point taken. I too believe that individuals should have the right to protest laws that are unjust. I personally don`t believe this one is.

    Everyone is saying they were arrested for dancing in the memorial. That is not the case. They were arrested for staging a protest inside of a memorial, which is prohibited by law. I`m at a loss as to why people find that law unreasonable. They can protest to their hearts content right outside of the memorial.

    People tire me who think they should be able to do whatever they want, whenever they want, and wherever they want, then wave the First Amendment around as their protection to do so.
  127. Profile photo of hypno1
    hypno1 Male 30-39
    69 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 4:49 am
    @Tsik we`re all heartbroken over here that you don`t want to grace us with your presence on vacation. Disney World is scrambling to figure out how to keep it`s gates open.
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    mahe4 Male 18-29
    57 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 7:42 am
    thats why we all love america @_@
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    Angelmassb Male 18-29
    15511 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 8:16 am
    Freedom of Speech right
  130. Profile photo of GodDamnDevil
    GodDamnDevil Male 40-49
    164 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    @hypno1....perfect on both responses...no need for me to repeat....
  131. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 5:53 pm
    @jtrebowski: Here`s a quote from the Washington Post. "They boogied with Jefferson to challenge this month’s U.S. Court of Appeals ruling that dancing at memorials is forbidden “because it stands out as a type of performance, creating its own center of attention and distracting from the atmosphere of solemn commemoration,” according to the panel’s ruling."

    Here`s the link to the storyin for the full details.
  132. Profile photo of Lolboy
    Lolboy Male 70 & Over
    798 posts
    May 30, 2011 at 5:55 pm
    @hypno1/Sathon:


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    xCYBERDYNEx Male 18-29
    4903 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 1:46 am
    @hypno1- thank you
  134. Profile photo of craponly12ch
    craponly12ch Male 18-29
    11 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 2:20 am
    "You hate America, you hate freedom."
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    ruthless1990 Female 18-29
    3001 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 5:11 am
    wow America, just wow...
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    8BitHero Male 18-29
    5414 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 5:24 am
    America love their freedom.
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    Somethindark Male 18-29
    15 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 10:06 am
    Awesome, getting arrested for dancing!
    Why? because it`s illegal dammit!
    America, drat Yeah!
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    ledzeppeloyd Male 18-29
    2385 posts
    May 31, 2011 at 10:16 pm
    drat the god dam pig, what a drating joke, the police state is upon us people
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    startech Male 30-39
    235 posts
    June 2, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    The (United) Police States of America

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