Phoenix Cop Suspended For Using Force On Teen Girl

Submitted by: kitteh9lives 6 years ago in

She was drinking at school and is in a struggle with her mother when police arrive. Was the cop right or wrong I-A-B?
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Male 5,413
Wrong
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Male 4,902
That was a horrible takedown. What a drating moron
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Female 3,001
i have no idea, because i couldnt see what was going on before the cop had her pinned
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Male 230
that was unnecessary
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Male 155
lol im from phoenix

poos typical
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Male 868
That was too much- not like she swung at him or started poo.
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Male 377
It looked like he went to shove her into the wall and tripped over his own feet and then fell/punch her.
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Male 25
this was fine imo
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Male 2,384
i`m not taking sides with the girl who was drunk but, drat the police the`re always wrong
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Male 541
On someone who is not drunk, that push would have been fine, because she couldn`t get her balance is why she fell like she did.
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Male 192
@ xtreme0ninja no ninja this is the problem teen age punks that think they do not need respect for his/her elders i am a retarded redneck??? this coming from a teen just proves what is wrong. When i grew up when we stepped out of line we were spanked, and big surprise i am a man now because of it. i have respect. you are a teen and while should have your own opinion, notice i am not disrespecting you my children (who are spanked when needed) are extreamly respectful. case proven
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Male 3,482
[quote]who think that physical violence is the solution to every problem[/quote]
Well, I`ll tell you this:

In terms of punishment, I learned to sleep while standing in time out. "Stern talking too"s bored the hell out of me. Taking away my toys and video games just pissed me off.

A good ass-whooping made me stop being a little punk and grow up respectable.

The problem with the world is that no seems to understand the value of a controlled, well placed, well timed smack.

Cops, for some strange reason, tend to over-use the power. Parents, for some reason now-a-days, don`t use it at all (SEE: Not wanting to be parents).

So what do we have? A generation of pampered little pussies kept in line by meat-head cops corrupted by power.
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Male 12,365
Cut off as usual. The last line should have read "Get it wrong and you`re dead."
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Male 12,365
[quote]Completely unnecessary, he didn`t have to run up to her and tackle her, she was just walking away.[/quote]

She was reaching into her jacket and taking out something concealed there.

Imagine that you`ve had a call to deal with someone drugged up who has assaulted someone else.

You arrive to find that person, who you have been told is drugged up (and therefore unpredictable and prone to impulsive and thoughtless behaviour) and fresh from committing an assault.

You tell them to stop. They ignore you. So you have to run after them.

You also know that you`re in a place where quite a few people carry guns.

The person (remember - highly unpredictable, impulsive and freshly wound up from committing an assault) reaches for something concealed under their clothing where they can easily pull it out.

You have a fraction of a second to decide. How long do you take to reach them? How quickly do you subdue them?

Get
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Male 17
mandingo3519, this is whats wrong with the southern US, retarded rednecks who think that physical violence is the solution to every problem
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Female 500
Phoenix... I`m slightly ashamed to live here now.
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Male 106
The cop should be fired. That`s a girl. He used way too excessive force, especially since she was just walking and he was behind her back.
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Male 192
@ rynenigma yes skip to 1:30 so you dont see the teen hitting her mother. i say she deserved every bit and more that is whats wrong with the times today kids get to assault parents and get pampered for it. to this kids mother i say beat her ass when she gets home ...
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Female 226
Completely unnecessary, he didn`t have to run up to her and tackle her, she was just walking away. NO need to knock her head into the wall.
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Male 674
Sloppy Coppy. I don`t think that maneuver is in the training manual! Dick Head award.
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Male 193
Youve done it now NOW im gonna sit on you!
oh and for the people who dont want to wast 1:30 seconds of their life skip to 1:50
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Female 36
That was ridiculous. But at the time, the police officer couldn`t have been too careful. He will get his job back, eventually. But it was still too much force... and looked painful...
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Female 247
If I had been caught drinking at school it would have been my mother knocking me to the ground. She probably would have asked the cops to taser as well.
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Male 197
In the officers defense he might have thought she was going for a weapon when she reached into the top of her shirt and started to turn towards him.. He will probably get his job back because of that. As an officer you can`t be too careful, doesn`t matter who your dealing with.
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Female 4,438
seems a pretty clear cut case of police abuse to me.
and why was her mother trying to restrain her on the ground? they should have arrested her for child abuse. there is obviously a lot going on in that household that needs attention.
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Male 134
@HeadiesRusH

No, I`m from northern Canada and usually in cases like this, the person is aboriginal. I`m just being a racist tbh.
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Male 558
Wrong. Everyone knows the best way to deal with an unruly teenage girl is to bribe another teenage girl to kick the crap out of her...
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Female 295
So many things wrong with this video. You could hear her head hit the wall from across the street. She wasn`t running, she was walking. He could have easily detained her but instead he chose to be violent to a young drunken girl. This is the type of behavior that led one young boy to be brain damaged for the rest of his life after cops misidentified him as a suspect and charged him. Absolutely unnecessary.
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Male 5,189
davymid hit the nail on the head.
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Male 1,678
This video shows a grown man attacking a drunk teenage girl from behind and there are people here defending it? Retards. Its plain to see he could have easily just jogged up to her and restrained her, she was unarmed and half his size. These kinds of actions should be considered only as a last resort by officers, not as a job perk.
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Male 1,313
it was wrong but deserved? So which one are you saying?

I personally think he could of just grabbed the dumb twat without bashing her head in.
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Female 144
That was completely unnecessary. What a dick. The irony is the US police go by the motto "to protect and server" when so often the only thing many are protecting and serving is their own egos and arrogance. Good cops are the ones who actually go by the motto.

It`s sad what a bastardization of the ideals of American leadership have turned into. Good Americans know our leadership is supposed to be about service, not oppression.

If you can`t deal correctly with the people you`re trusted to be protecting don`t be a drating cop. Go to where you belong, jail, with the rest of the criminals.
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Male 1,252
Wrong but deserved, Cop should have at least attempted to detain her first..BUT that girl needs a hard lesson in "you cant get away with stupid poo as much you think you do".
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Male 39,920

Kayzer84 - [quote]"That cop would probably go to jail back in sweden," [/quote]

I guess you guys don`t have trailer trash over there?
They need more coaxing than a polite "Stop, Please".

If you want a sense of what USA is really like,
watch Dog the bounty hunter or... Operation REPO.
that`s pretty much what daily life here is like. Very realistic.

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Male 328
@bucksteeth

[quote=bucksteeth]
That woman was obviously drunk and aboriginal.
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She was obviously drunk and "the first or earliest known of her kind present in the region." Oh the irony...

Did you perhaps mean to say "belligerent"?
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Male 437
He should not be a police officer. He clearly cannot control himself. Time and time again we see these videos of abusive, power tripping police officers.

As far as I`m concerned, if you use force against someone who is not using any force against you, that is assault.
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Male 328
That use of force was completely unnecessary. She was only walking away. That`s hardly a reason to body slam someone into a brick wall.
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Female 77
Completely wrong, what a twat.
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Male 296
Are all women in Phoenix fat? jeesh
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Male 247
People like that are the reason crimes are committed in the first place.
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Male 134
Holy hell in a hand-basket. I think he performed exactly as the situation called for. That woman was obviously drunk and aboriginal. As all of you SHOULD know, that is the triad of things required to justify implementing that kind of extremely necessary force.
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Male 1,931
On top of that she was reaching for something (looks like a cell phone from that angle). Cop saw her reach. You see someone reach as a cop and you automatically assume it`s a gun. He did the right thing.
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Male 1,931
Cop told her to stop. She ignored him. He ran after her and stopped her. I can`t hear the audio so I don`t know how many times he told her to stop. Regardless, if someone is fleeing a crime scene the cop has the right to stop someone.
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Female 2,761
Would you all be siding with the perp if it were a black male walking away from this scene? He told her to stop walking away (you can see and hear it if you turn your speakers up) she kept on walking so he took her down. End of story.
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Male 5
That cop would probably go to jail back in sweden, and i cant say he wouldnt deserve it.
"I`ll tackle that girl half my wheight in to the frikkin brick wall and i might be able to cuff her" America, u suck...
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Male 89
looks to me lie she fell on her own when he tries to grab her because she is too drunk.. but anyway. cops are always wrong.
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Male 17,511
davymid: "...minority complex..." ???

I think you meant to say `inferiority complex`, at least I hope so. ;-)
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Male 106
She should have been beaten just for wearing those shorts.
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Male 1,010
@temp4comment: I can easily tell what happened - just watch the video.

This is what happened "in case you can`t tell":

A teen girl was walking away from the police, and a big fat coward finally got the perfect chance to get some revenge, fueling his unprocessed feelings of personal failure in High School, which eventually led him to pursue a career within law dis-enforcement.

I know it`s just as enterprative as your "explanation", but again- it seems a hell of a lot more plausible than a teen girl pulling a bazooka out of her hair, eh?
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Male 14
Leave the scene, get what`s coming to you. End of story.
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Female 546
wrong. so totally wrong.
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Male 1,268
@tiger

As a phoenix resident, I hope you appreciate the three unwarranted traffic violations you pick up this year alone to help cover the cost your PD has to absorb from the lawsuit against this cop when it turns out he was simple an over emotional cannon who couldn`t figure out a safe way of arresting the perp.
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Male 157
I like how everyone who is commenting as probably never been to Phoenix or is so against cops that they fail to realize that we only catch the last minutes of the altercation and whats been edited. You`re all going to bad mouth the cops the first chance you get, but when you need them you suck up like no tomorrow. Good Job being Hypocrites.
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Male 104
You Are all rediculous.. for all you know she could have said "come near me and ill stab you" ability, capability and intent right there..
not defending him im just saying dont jump to conclusions.. the other adults in the video didnt seem too disturbed by it... and they were there.
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Female 401
If that girl was me I would`ve kicked the mother drat3r in the balls. He would never use them again. That just pisses me off. Cops think they can do anything they want to and that they are above the law. I don`t think so.
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Male 2,690
Definitely excessive force.
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Male 1,222
I think it was just perfect. The subject did turn around, and she could have done anything, like pulling out a gun or a knife. The cop doesnt know that, he just arrived. What did you expect?
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Male 1,010
I can`t see how it`s possible to be supportive of this. By god, i`ve seen drunk people getting arrested - at least more than 20 times. People passed out or trying to walk away like this, or people trying to resist.

Police here have no thasers. If a person is drunk or they are agitated and drunk, police starts TALKING to them. Always. Explain, "you`re coming with us. Either way. We can do this two ways, your choise." After being thouroughly explained this, 90% choose the easy path and just get in the car. Those who don`t, get the hand bendt on the back and forced.

Now, you may say that some parts of the world are more dangerous than others, and that police have to take more precautions. But still - this was a teen girl. She was just hammered, which is quite normal for her age. The big cop jumped on her from behind - looks like he knocked her out? I think it`s ridiculous. I would never call this cop a man, just a loser with a badge.
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Male 71
fact is it was too much.. cops probably shootin juice in his ass so he can fill out the sleeves in his uniform. you pay cops to use their brain (which, i admit, probably 30% of the police force has been born without) and know how to properly apply necessary force. even if that chick took off full speed would it really have been hard for him to catch up? if it would have been then he`s already wrong. she was moving slow and even turning back, and how bout using ur voice, dumb meathead pig. this incident is the embodiment of the over strengthening of the government vs. the people.

@scuzoid idk about you but i dont have any blue masters in my life, i have alot of blue employees tho considering they work for the government i supposedly appointed and pay for.
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Male 174
that was no collision. That guy full on speared her. Holy crap! Yes he deserved the suspension. You to use that much force on someone unless absolutely necessary and she wasn`t exactly physically resisting when he did it.....
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Male 12,138
Hmm, tough call. Being a cop is a tough job. I know a few cops. Some of them are fine upstanding human beings who genuinely want to improve the society they live in, they`re real-life superheroes, living the dream of fighting crime. And then there are others who are just jumped-up little Hitlers with a minority complex who were probably bullied at school and are just one step on the social ladder above security guard or bouncer. Who knows what information this cop had received prior to arriving on the scene, or what was going through his mind when he made the split-second decision on how to best take down an apparently fleeing perp?

As lame as it is, I`m sitting on the fence on this one.
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Male 1,268
So many of you fail to make decisions with your wallet as opposed to your heart and your morals. Rather simple minded if you ask me.
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Male 1,268
So amazing how many of you miss the big picture. It doesn`t matter whether or not she deserved it. If I were her brother, I would`ve done the same exact thing and not felt remotely bad about it because that`s how siblings are allowed to act. The big picture here is the Sgt in charge of the investigation agrees that without any further information, this IS unreasonable force. What does that mean? That means this is easily a 50k dollar lawsuit that is paid for by taxpayers and an exceptional increase in speeding tickets handed out to people doing 3 miles over the limit.

I live in one of the worst cities on the west coast when it comes to police brutality. If the city of pheonix, or wherever, decided this kind of violence was acceptable, I`d be perfectly fine with it. I`d anticipate having to bow down to my blue master at any impasse, but at least then I`d know my tax dollars aren`t going to a 1.5m lawsuit for the wrongful killing of a citizen.
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Female 6,381
I dunno. If you`re chasing after a fleeing perp, you hardly expect her to stop and turn on a dime. A collision is pretty unavoidable.
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Male 71
gottamgear you need to watch the manbearpig episode of south park and you`ll learn all you need to learn about being both ceral, and super cereal

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Male 35
cop showed up asked no questions, had not even made sure that said person was even involved. Proceeded to tackle the crap outah her... Def in the wrong, if you think not enjoy the police state we will soon be in. When it happens to you don`t you dare complain...
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Male 4,004
LOL

The only reason she went flying is because she didn`t expect it. It was a little much, but it got the job done, and in the end is what really matters. The only problem is that this girl was not a real criminal and probably did not deserve to be tackled like one by somebody who trains to be able to restrain a bouncer.
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Male 670
@RealisticGuy
1) She was White, not black.
2) How can we be `cereal`?
3) Are you on drugs or just stupid?
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Male 1,150
dumbasses get dealt with. end of story.
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Male 20
Lets be cereal here people.
Cops called to disband/arrest citizens violating the law.
Citizen violating the law resists arrest by attempting to leave.
Officer uses force, not excessive force. (Which would have been hitting her after she was down.) to detain offending citizen.
Arrest continues as close to what is universally recognized as protocol as is possible.
The girl wasn`t `beaten` or brutalized. She was black, force was used on her by a white officer, so the internet is crying about it. This is the Kelley Williams-Bolar incident all over again.
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Male 191
Good thing he showed up when he did, if she had escaped, they would have had to shoot everyone and rape the old lady.
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Male 159
Thats just brutal and i hate these cops more and more...I wish there was a show called Cop Busters and arrest them for doing a crappy job..That could have been my sister or mother in that situation..
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Male 100
Yeah he was out of line. He could have handled that without hitting her. He wanted to show her what happens when the cops get called out for some dumb crap like that. However, I`ve seen way worse on IAB before and those cops probably got a high five!
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Male 19
She deserver it. walking away from something you did is stupid!
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Male 802
Looked like an accident but she probably deserved it so no harm.
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Male 133
He definitely didn`t trip, he jumped at her, you don`t trip and remain standing almost completely upright. Keep clicking the video over and over at 1:57..where he "trips" he actually straightens his body out more..I`m pretty sure that was a lunge, and he was bracing himself to hit her. If he tripped, he would have went down..he was cruising.
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Male 535
what was that for?! american cops just suck ass!
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Male 35
thug bitch gets it from her mother obviously. but still too excessive to use on any citizen, and if he tripped then the first thing he should`ve done was seen if she was ok. you`ve been judged!
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Male 5,194
Did not use The Force.
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Male 315
"I`m not saying the cop was right or wrong, but it totally looks like he was going to just grab her and then tripped into her."

I have to agree, it looked like he was trying to run up and grab her or pin her against that wall but the last step he takes is kind odd and he just rams into her. If he was trying to do that on purpose he is a douchebag and deserves suspension and re-training.
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Male 1,021
skip ahead to 1:50...

He used too much force but I think it may not have been on purpose. She turned to run right when he grabbed her. The whole situation sucks.
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Male 550
Whoa! That was WAY too much.
"poo! She`s walking away. SLOWLY! I better tackle the poo outta her!"
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Male 174
Yeah, she was walking away kind of fast. The proper way to respond is to punch her in the face with 20 yards of momentum. You know, police stuff.
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Male 329
YEah seemed a bit extreme.
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Female 33
I`m not saying the cop was right or wrong, but it totally looks like he was going to just grab her and then tripped into her.
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Female 208
That seemed totally uncalled for to me. The only thing I can think of is that maybe he has been involved with her (as a criminal) before and knew that she might run or put up a physical fight if given the chance. We don`t know either of their histories, but if that was a first offense, totally uncalled for. She is much smaller than him and wasn`t resisting.
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Male 114
Cops are not judge and jury!!! that teenage girl was not resisting or running away. No way should that cop of bodyslamed that young girl, regardless if her and her mom were fighting. WeePee what the hell are you talking about? If a cop cant control his temper then HE SHOULDNT BE A COP. Its simple, that was wrong.
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Male 40,752
[quote]I`m more offended by it being normal to consider her sex relevant.[/quote]
Excellent point @Angilion! It seems "feminism" gets tossed out the window when a "helpless girl" is involved. Equality? Heck no! Girls get special rights! If a white male was involved, this video would have been deleted unseen, no one would care.
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Male 40,752
Well, we don`t know exactly what the police saw since the cars obscured the view, eh? It could easily be that they DID she her do something violent to her mom, and thus had every reason to take her down.

So yes it was rough, but also she richly deserved it. The cop is obviously asking her to stop, and she`s obviously ignoring him. BAM! Lucky she didn`t get the `stick`.
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Male 559
"...The court decides whether you`re guilty, and issues a punishment for you. Not the cop. Not the cop."

Yeah, but my point was that she didn`t get an assbeating, but even if she had, it would have been deserved.

What she got was 100% justified. She was intoxicated and being violent.
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Male 73
He`s getting at least a vacation. And if she got hurt, she`s about to get rich. No way in hell that was justified.
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Female 383
Well he didn`t have to push her against the wall like that, but she probably would`ve run if he didn`t.
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Male 7,378
Essentially yeah HalfPintRoo. You`re innocent until proven guilty.
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Male 612
i love how everyone on the internet is sooo bias against police.
yes, id say there is a bit excessive force here, but you do not know what she said to the officer and you can easily tell she was resisting arrest (attempting to flee the scene).
imo suspend the officer with pay because the fat bicth got what she deserved and will hopefully be forced into some community service to wash some of the white trash out of her.
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Female 2,761
If a cop can`t arrest you unless you do something wrong IN FRONT of him- I could rob a bank and walk outside and be ok right? They didn`t SEE me take the money.
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Male 55
i think that was VERY excessive its not like she was RUNNING AWAY. yes she was fleeing but the officer easily caught her. there was no need to shover her at all. could have just ran in frount of her, and obstructed her path. if she continued to resist and flee then smash her face into a wall.
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Male 490
@Armauld This wont happen to me, because I dont break the laws. ^.=.~
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Male 7,378
Complete over-reaction. Police aren`t paid to tackle citizens. They need to show some respect and treat people with dignity. This guy deserves his suspension. Lets hope he learns from it.
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Female 107
To the people who are taking the cops side, wait until this happens to you.
This girl hadn`t done anything illegal while the cop was there (besides being drunk) and public intoxication alone doesn`t deserve a take-down like this.
I`m not anti-police, but I am all for fairness and civil rights. We can`t accept this type of behaviour from people with this much power.
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Female 185
Dude, her drunk ass deserved way worse than that. Making a public spectacle of herself that way is disgusting and disgraceful. And oh my god my Mom`s voice just came out of my mouth... fingers. Whatever. >_<; She still deserved it though.
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Female 4,225
A weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee bit excessive mate
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Male 15,510
FALCON PUNCH!!
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Male 33
You can tell this cop is a farkin` jerk just by the way he saunters up to her before he checks her into the wall. I`m sure he`s suspended with pay. Dinks like him just love to be cops so they can beat down regular citizens. That makes up for the disdain they have for society from being a cop too long.
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Female 2,761
She stood up and walked away (with the cop) just fine. And I`m tired of people and their "cop brutality!!", if you don`t want to be bothered by a cop the don`t do something wrong. If you do something wrong then don`t bitch about it.
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Male 3,482
[quote]Personally, I hope that they shoot the cop`s kids AFTER they fire him, not before.[/quote]
Oh, you`re cool, Mr. Internet "I don`t like cops" Tough Guy.

Whether what he did was excessive or not, you`re no better than him. In fact, you`re WORSE than him, by a mile, wishing death upon another human being for the actions of someone else.

You`re pathetic.

As for the video... I do think he could have slowed down a bit before he ran into her, but being a cop he kind of has to assume they`re going to start running hen he comes for them.

I think a suspension is proper. No more, though.
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Male 12,365
I`d say excessive but not greatly so. It`s not like he beat her. He got a call to an assault by someone drugged up. That someone was leaving the scene. He used more force than necessary to stop them doing so, but drugged up people leaving after assaulting someone are a potentially serious risk because they`re unpredictable.

I`m more offended by it being normal to consider her sex relevant.
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Male 95
That was excessive.
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Male 490
Seems about right to me, she was fleeing from the scene. She could have run at any time. And besides, you fight the law, the law brings an arsewhooping.
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Male 2,389
should just tazed her ass and been done with it.
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Male 3,745
people have so much animosity these days...
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Male 270
That was unnecessary...
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Male 339
Oh please. She was fleeing arrest and he pushed her into a wall. Love the hyperbole of `slamming` being used here. I wonder if any of you have played contact sports before... this was a body check at most.

Simple: Don`t flee arrest. Don`t attack cops. Or else expect a confrontation. He handled that well, neutralized the threat immediately with no damage to either party other than bruises and a bump to the head.

@evanbartlett: Shoot the cops kids? Why?
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Male 3,894
"...Teenage girls aren`t immune from an assbeating when they do something wrong."

To reiterate the point I was making earlier:
Cops-DO: Diffuse the situation, apprehend violators of the law.
DO NOT: Issue punishment.

It`s not the cop`s job to teach you a lesson. It`s not the cop`s job to make sure "you get what you have coming to you." In fact, technically you aren`t even guilty of ANYTHING until it has been decided upon in a court.

The court decides whether you`re guilty, and issues a punishment for you. Not the cop. Not the cop.

NOT.

THE.

COP.
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Male 559
"Plus the dumbass was probably too tipsy to feel much. Drinking at school... real smart!"

Oh, give him more credit than that. I don`t think the cop was that drunk.

Personally, I hope that they shoot the cop`s kids AFTER they fire him, not before.
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Female 167
Ya I think slamming her on the concrete like that was a bit much....she wasn`t even running.
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Male 559
"Sure it was probably more force than he needed to use, but it kept her from struggling any more."

...indeed...shooting her would have also kept her from struggling any more.
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Female 535
WTF
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Male 684
teens are unpredictable, she was obviously non-compliant with the officers request...she was walking away from(fleeing) arrest, and if you have ever seen Chris Rock you know that if you run for the Police, they are bringing an a$$whoopin. Sure it was probably more force than he needed to use, but it kept her from struggling any more.
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Male 559
Once again... wtf is wrong with you IAB?

Excessive force would be if he jumped on top of her and continued to beat her. That hit wasn`t even in a tender area and he didn`t even punch her. She got hurt because she was drunk and did not try to catch herself in any way.

So you have a violent underage drunk who is walking away and ignoring commands to stop. He didn`t even put a knee on her when he cuffed her even though she continued to resist.

This is coming from a pothead who doesn`t like cops! Teenage girls aren`t immune from an assbeating when they do something wrong.
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Male 4,807

She was drunk,then she fell down.... Whats the big deal?
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Male 325
Looks to me he was trying to surprise her, as to not give her a chance to run and he almost fell on her.. EH... Other than that seems he was not hitting or punching her on the ground... happens
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Male 551
"somebody please make a GIF"

I second that =]
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Male 871
just no need for that.
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Male 210
I`m sorry, that was amazing.
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Male 562
Wow, feel intimidated by teen girls much. You sir have issues... DICK!
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Male 61
What a douche
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Male 1,540
"He cracked her head open on the wall. You can clearly see blood matting her hair while the police officer is putting on the handcuffs."

This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke. It`s so far away and the quality is so low that all I see is a dark-colored blob for the hair and a light-colored blob where her hair parts.
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Male 362
I think if dude uses so much force that he throws HIMSELF off balance that could be called excessive lol
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Male 362
I personally would have taken her down without freaking out about it.
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Male 5
He cracked her head open on the wall. You can clearly see blood matting her hair while the police officer is putting on the handcuffs.
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Male 9
What the drat ever happened to "Protect and Serve."
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Male 7
drating pigs.
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Male 25,416
wow, that was a little excessive
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Male 49
he had no right to do so if the offender is violent E.G punched him then yes but in this case i is assault let them throw the the first punch and then take action is my saying
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Male 528
somebody please make a GIF
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Male 165
All I see is a police officer efficiently taking control of a situation with way too many `what if` scenarios. Plus the dumbass was probably too tipsy to feel much. Drinking at school... real smart!
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Male 645
WTF WAS THAT!??! She clearly took a dive. Two minutes for unsportsmanlike conduct.
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Female 65
I watched the take down about 5 times, to see if there was a chance he might have tripped, but nope, it just looks like he took her down trying to make sure she stayed down.. :(
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Male 3,894
"Why do we keep insisting our police officers be p**sies? He ordered her to stop, she didn`t comply. The physical force used will not cause permanant damage and put an end to her shenanigans quickly. Cops aren`t supposed to be nice."

Cops aren`t supposed to be mean, either. Cops are supposed to apprehend violators of the law in the safest manner possible. That`s IT. Cops are not there to punish misbehavior--that`s the job of the courts, and ONLY the courts.

Get it? No beating, no bullying, none of that. Just diffusion of the situation and arrest.
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Male 2,591
Yep, I bet he goes home and beats his wife and kicks his dog. Police are always in the wrong unless they are catching people who are clearly victimizing other people. Cops are my enemy. Both times I have ever called on them for help in my life, they whipped and spun the story around to victimize me themselves, and offered absolutely no help. I am a very polite and respectful person when dealing with people. Even cops. But they`ll never treat you with the same respect you treat them with. Unless, of course, you look and dress like they do. This officer should have NEVER hit a female, let alone a minor female. Sadist.

However, for pure entertainment value alone, yohousefren is absolutely right. "Solid hit, 10 points" Lmao!
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Male 3,894
@Scuzoid - yeah. This exactly.
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I didn`t feel like turning my music off to watch the video, so I left the video on mute.

...is it bad that in my head they were all speaking with Sim voices?
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Male 840
Reminds me of the officer who slammed an innocent man into a wall like that in Seattle. The man died. Cops look like human beings so the natural tendency is to think of them as such. Don`t.
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Female 737
Talk about EXCESSIVE. The man could easily take that girl down, the face smash into the wall was wrong.
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Female 18
Ah this reminds me of the kid who got tazed at school a few days ago
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Male 2,868
drat that drating guy. This can`t possibly be standard protocol for this situation.
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Male 34
Solid hit. 10 points
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Male 1,510
Drunk teenage girl beating her mother, ignores cops orders to stop, gets pushed to the ground but not injured. Whatevs.
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Male 584
this cop definatley needs a bridge named after him
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Male 1,237
God it`s just a teenage girl - she posed no threat to him or anyone at that moment. He is a pretty big guy, quite easy to stop that girl in MANY ways that do not involve her head cracking to the floor, which is a clear risk if he knows she is inebriated. I agree with the suspension, I hope they press charges
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Male 1,268
Here`s what I wish would happen:

You accept the fact that video`s of a cop telling a litter bug to pick up his trash, then the guy politely doing so and everyone walks away happily don`t end up on youtube.

The people who "always side against the cops" aren`t siding against police. They`re against egregious misconduct. The only thing that makes it online.

Meanwhile, perhaps you might want to consider the fact that there are plenty of cops who can go their whole career maintaining a level head with a solid emotional disconnect to the scenario they`re presented with. The underlying factor in EVERY excessive force I`ve seen is the fact that the cop simply couldn`t manage his own ego. Fact is, most of the planet can do this, including cops, it just so happens that those IHOP kids or Pheonix police officers who can`t are the ones who make it online.
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Male 69
Generally the first and biggest part of any use of force model is Officer presence, then communication, then on to the actual force options. Anyways, from the look of things, by the time they showed up the situation had diffused a little and there was no need for hard physical force, but since she was attempting to leave the scene some sort of control technique probably would have been needed. So IMO, based on what we can see the officer was in the wrong and the stupid drunk girl will probably get her next drink payed for her by the government.

However we also don`t know what may have been said. There are a number of threats that could warrant this action. (ex. Im gonna stab you!)Ive seen stupid drunks make threats like that all the time.
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Male 521
Why do we keep insisting our police officers be p**sies? He ordered her to stop, she didn`t comply. The physical force used will not cause permanant damage and put an end to her shenanigans quickly. Cops aren`t supposed to be nice. Anyone trying to claim this as some Rodney King like beating has no idea what a real beating looks like.
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Male 10,440
On the other hand if I had to guess I`d say excessive force, yeah.

Suspend the cop? I`m fine with that, assuming there was no injury.
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Male 10,440
We don`t know enough. For starters, he could have been yelling at her to come back, and she could have been ignoring him.
[quote] Was the cop right or wrong I-A-B? [/quote]

I don`t know why you even bother to ask us. I`ll assume it was a joke, as is just about everything else that comes out of you.

Also that`s a bad camera angle.
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Male 1,178
most definitely wrong. Use force if they are struggling sure, but he`s just another trigger happy cop. That was totally unnecessary
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Male 177
He could have very easily just walked after her and put handcuffs on her. Even if they`re ALLOWED to do something, doesn`t mean it isn`t excessive. If she was sprinting away from him after committing a horrible crime, by all means do whatever you can, but this case doesn`t call for this type of force.
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Male 10,338
Here`s what I wish would happen:

One of you younger ones that always side against the cops in every case, becomes a cop by some twist of fate.

Then you come back on here one day and say "Oops. My bad. I was totally wrong. LOL!"

Alas, that shall never happen.
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Male 761
Ok, she may have needed to be arrested for whatever she did, but just tackling her with full force into the wall while she`s casually walking away? Unnecessary imo
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Male 10,338
"You know full well you were wrong multiple times on that issue."

Whatever. My opinion doesn`t make me wrong. It makes me have an opinion, just like you.
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Male 926
It looks more like a case of "didn`t know his own strength." I don`t think he intended her to go flying into the wall. Obviously this was excessive force but ultimately no one was hurt. I`m going to go with....... Suspension warranted. I mean, he was he was going to have to take her out one way or the other, why not save everyone the trouble and end it quick.
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Male 670
Where was she `beating the hell out of the mother?` I saw the mother trying to hold her, but little more than her pulling away from the mom.????
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Male 78
I hope he gets fired.
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Male 17,511
I appears to me that the policeman he told her stop and she either didn`t hear or ignored him, a pretty tame tackle compared to some of what I`ve seen on the COPS tv show.

and as AJ said, She was beating the crap out of her mother, so I have little pity for her.
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Male 1,268
"Again" being the osama photos. You know full well you were wrong multiple times on that issue.

Force is necessary in law enforcement when people are at risk of injury. No one on that scene, which she left before the cops got out of their car, was in any further risk. Period. She most certainly was fleeing, and she did commit a crime. But so is the person who littered 15 feet in front of a beat cop. No beat cop is going to tackle someone for littering, let alone do it in such an immediate fashion. Why? Because there is no emotion attached to tossing a Big Gulp. His actions were NOT in line with public service, this was a heated moment of rage at a girl who deserved to get tackled. This is why you`re wrong. She`ll win the lawsuit because he most certainly committed a crime himself.
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Male 183
My guess is the officer was cited for EXCESSIVE force - there is a difference. As for some of the other discussions here, hard to tell without clear audio. Obviously, if a cop tells you to stop, you stop, period. But we really can`t hear, the picture is too grainy to read his lips, and as for `fleeing the scene`, yes, she was walking away, but not running.
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Male 10,338
"No one on the scene was in any danger"

Did you not see the part where she beat the hell out of her mother?

She was leaving the scene of a crime, and was publically intoxicated.

Maybe we should just let criminals do what they please, regardless of gender.

Oh and don`t say "wrong again", for I am never wrong. ;)
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Male 39,920

Dont`cha just love how our respectable, guardians of the peace treat people when they don`t know they`re being recorded? Happens too frequently to be isolated incidents. More like patterns-of-behavior. hahahahahahaha

Back On Topic: He was telling her to stop walking away. She failed to comply, he took her to the ground. Would you rather he tackled her the way he would a drunk man? Maybe taser would be better? How about an engraved invitation to stop?

It`s a little harsh, I think a verbal warning is good enough. no suspension.

The mother is probably crying for her poor baby and ready to file suit agains the police.
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Male 1,268
You`re wrong again AJ. She`ll win her lawsuit. 1.5 seconds from his "Come here" command to his dead sprint is unreasonable. No one on the scene was in any danger, this is akin to being tackled by a cop because I didn`t actually turn around to pick up some litter I just tossed on the ground within 1.5 seconds.
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Male 1,461
I don`t know. It seemed a bit excessive to me.

On the other hand, maybe he`s just pissed because Phoenix got eliminated from the playoffs.
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Female 203
XD Oh how I love the fact that I go to the same spot every weekend....love ya Arcadia, stay classy
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Male 559
WTF is wrong with you IAB? This is how you treat an aggressive drunk. She got what she deserved.
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Female 2,026
what the f*ck? waay to aggressive
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Male 2,552
Definitely out of line. Damn!
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Male 559
Depends on whether or not he instructed her to stop. If he did instruct her to stop first, that was fully justified.
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Male 20,911
@auburnjunky: i didn`t listen to it with the volume--I`m listening to music. I`ll give it another look...
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Male 3,842
Doesn`t seem excessive to me. He told her to stop, she didn`t stop, so he pushed her and she fell down, probably because she was drunk and unstable. No problem here.
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Male 10,338
@Fancy: I hope you aren`t siding with the girl. The cops were right.
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Male 10,338
@hatface: Refer to my first post.

@hudini: exactly.
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Male 20,911
OH SNAP!

On a semi-related note: At least now the playing field is even now that everything has a camera attached to it so catch these sort of shenanigans.

It wasn`t more than 10 years ago when the only people that were getting busted by cameras were normys like you and me and Big Brother used the footage to give us speeding tickets and whatnot.

Now technology is biting authority in the haunches and popping law enforcement.

That made a lot more sense before I typed it all out. Still hungover.
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Male 605
Jesus christ the f*ck is wrong with you America?
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Male 32
drinking in school? beating your mother? fleeing the scene?
excessive? yea
deserved it? yea
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Male 10,338
Cops were right. Epic take down maneuver.

Let`s get this straight:

IF YOU RESIST ARREST, YOU WILL GET YOUR ASS BEAT!

Please, take it up with the judge.
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Male 143
it is called "excessive force" for a reason.
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Male 2,796
Although excessive and unprovoked, I have to admit that as far as "excessive" goes... this was very mild.

Honestly on the fence on this. I understand that sometimes cops go from "a" to "f" because they want to surprise and subdue before a situation gets out of hand. However, it was very clear that this girl would have been no threat at all and he should have recognized that.
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Male 226
Fleeing the scene and not listening, you just got butt slammed.
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Male 1,587

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Male 1,587
Boring, boring, where are the cops? Oh ok...


HOLY CRAP!
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Female 8,043
Link: Phoenix Cop Suspended For Using Force On Teen Girl [Rate Link] - She was drinking at school and is in a struggle with her mother when police arrive. Was the cop right or wrong I-A-B?
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