Obama Flubs Toast To Queen Elizabeth

Submitted by: rogue_knight 6 years ago in

Way to represent homie! The Queens look at :30 second mark is priceless!
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Male 5
royalty are a waste of time and money.
what do they do? why give them a dinner at the white house? how have they made anything better for anybody else, ever?
they could at least look grateful for the luxury they receive for no reason.
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Male 2,737
My hero,.......sheeesh.
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Male 976
She had that face cuz he`s a colored fella
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Male 12,365
[quote]so what was "wrong"? was he not suppose to give a speech? should he have waited until the end?[/quote]

Already answered repeatedly, but I`ll summarise here as it`s been asked again:

He unintentionally cued the playing of the national anthem, presumably because he wasn`t aware of that aspect of protocol - toasting the monarch is the *end*, not the beginning. So if you`re using the toast to make a speech, you *end* it with "to the queen" (or king).

So when he said that, it was taken as the end of the toast *because it always is*, that`s the custom. They started playing the national anthem, which he talked over. You shouldn`t talk over a national anthem - that`s the custom all over the place. Abruptly cutting off the toast would have been a bit off too, so he picked one of the two poor options he had left and went with it.

Not a big deal between two friendly countries.
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Male 349
Awkward. Asking the queen to stand, awkward. English royalty and American brashness don`t mix.
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Male 1,920
"Yea, not that we didn`t found this country on getting away from monarchical institutions."

We could have very easily had a monarchy had George Washington desired to be King. I don`t remember all the details, but the military wanted him to become King, but he declined.
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Female 217
maybe he just wanted acompanying music for a more powerful speech so set it off on purpose
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Male 19
I live in England, and the Royalty have some absolutely ridiculous customs.

For those that don`t know, the cue to end the speech is saying "The queen", however he started his speech with the "the queen".

The band should have had more sense, instead of following traditions blindly.
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Male 802
Bet someone got fired.
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Female 2,509
so what was "wrong"? was he not suppose to give a speech? should he have waited until the end?
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Male 3,310
That made me laugh as hard as Bush trying to get off stage in China through a locked door
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Female 2,415
Yup, seemed an inadvertent gaff because the music cut him off but he seemed to deal with it rather well! Awkward, yes, but HOW he dealt with this embarrassing situation should be what we take from this. (He seemed set on making sure that every one still toasted the Queen at the end).
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Female 277
Yeah, that really wasn`t his fault.
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Male 4,004
To add to Angilion:

The anthem "God Save the Queen" is also respected by the commonwealth countries. I`m in the military and at every mess dinner, when we play the anthems and toasts, the Queen`s is among the first ones played, and respected (not sure if the Canadian anthem or the Queen`s is played first as there is much alcohol involved at mess dinners)
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Male 359
Opps! No slight was intended. That and the music came in early. You can just see him standing there after he set the glass down thinking "...poo!"

He was in a hard spot and I dont think he did anythig "wrong" perse.

That said, had Buch stepped on his dick like this, the libs would be howling about it for months.
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Male 12,365
[quote]I don`t get it. What mistake did he make?[/quote]

He spoke over a national anthem. It`s generally not done unless you want to insult people, which he didn`t. So it was a mistake. Although his initial mistake was to unintentionally cue the orchestra to play the national anthem, which left him with an awkward choice - abruptly cut off the toast or speak over the national anthem, neither of which are good protocol.

Whoever started the anthem made a mistake too - they automatically went off the standard cue but they should have realised it was a mistake. Too late once they started - abruptly cutting off a national anthem just after you`ve started just isn`t done.

Not a big deal, really. One minor error of protocol between friendly countries. Not a problem.
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Female 123
That`s a mistake I would make. I just have the pleasure of not doing it on international television.
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Male 35
That was the orchestra`s fault. They started way too early. And because I am allotted 1000 characters, and because I`m a dick, I will fill the rest of this comment with "o"s. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOpenis OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OO
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Female 25
I don`t get it. What mistake did he make?
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Male 2,528
"Obama is a narcissistic oaf"

An intelligent person would realize that ANY person who thrives to be the leader of the most powerful nation in the world is a narcissist. Not just Obama.

But then again, you`re obviously not intelligent, so I`ll forgive you.
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Female 446
That`s life. Nobody`s perfect. Except: (Add your name here.) ;)
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Male 1,399
Maybe he`ll take that bust of Churchill back now, and the DVDs he gifted Gordon Brown that didn`t play in the UK.
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Male 694
Obama should have known to end the toast with `to the queen,` but to be fair, the conductor should have realized that he was still talking. It certainly sounded like they were interrupting him.
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Male 1,293
Can`t stand the man, but this is painful to watch. Serious embarrassment, not just for Obama (and those that say he is better than Bush at this - no, Bush is a gentleman. Obama is a narcissistic oaf) but for his advisers. How was he allowed not to know the clear protocol?
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Male 2,344
K sooo. Nothing wrong here. He wasn`t aware of the specific manners and traditions of the British, it got awkward because of a fowl up. Oh well. No problem?
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Male 1,399
After being schooled by Netanyahu and signing the wrong date at Westminster, he probably felt like he needed to say....something...
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Male 2,085
Then that`s the only thing this socialist idiot is better at.
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Male 734
Still hating on Bush?
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Male 7,839
auburn, that would be a few decades like i said. I dont really see her being around all that much longer.

it does seem like its a treat if you are around for the switch in monarchs. not a whole lot of people get to see this.
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Male 1,231
Lol to be fair he`s alot better at this sort of thing than George W.ever was!
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Male 875
meh
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Male 25,416
ok then
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Male 17,511
And this is why he NEEDS a teleprompter with him at all times.
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Male 558
@angilion To Anacreon in heaven FTW!!!
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Male 12,365
[quote]Though to be fair, WTF are they doing playing music in the middle of a toast? Do they strike up the band every time someone says "Her Majesty, the Queen"? That could get tedious very quickly...[/quote]

Answered a few posts ago:


[quote]Gerry1of1
Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:20:06 AM

@cobrakiller - you should make all the compliments first and finish with "To the Queen" as it`s the orchestra`s cue to start.[/quote]
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Male 10,338
"every few decades or so."

Liz has been queen for nearly 60 years. More than a "few" years.

All signs are also pointing to William becoming the new king, even though Charles is next in line. It`s all up to her majesty.
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Male 7,839
gerry, its weird how that national anthem changes every few decades or so. you know, between "king" and "queen".
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Male 496
He even does a little bow at the end!

Love the "OK then!" moment when Obama realizes he`s flubbed protocol. What is it, flubs 357, White House protocol office 0?

Though to be fair, WTF are they doing playing music in the middle of a toast? Do they strike up the band every time someone says "Her Majesty, the Queen"? That could get tedious very quickly...
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Male 40,221

God save our gracious Queen
Long live our noble Queen
God save the Queen
Send her victorious
Happy and glorious
Long to reign over us
God save the Queen

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Male 40,221

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yes, yanks stole God Save our King and changed the words to My Country Tis of Thee

this thread is a double for me as I`m both american and british. I have a stupid president and he {unintentinally} insults my queen.

damn colonials lol
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Male 12,365
[quote]chadders42, thats the english national anthem? i`m pretty sure we stole that music for one of our songs.[/quote]

I`ll throw my ha`porth in as I`m here.

There isn`t an English national anthem. That`s the UK national anthem.

Maybe you did steal it for one of your songs. So much of the USA comes from the UK, including your national anthem (it was an English drinking song).
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Male 12,365
Oh, and another thing:

You owe your right to vote to the monarchy in modern times. William IV, 1832. It isn`t well known, but he was the final decisive force behind the Great Reform Act, which laid the foundations of voting being a right for all rather than a privilege for a few. It`s the last time royal power was openly (but unofficially) used in the UK (the last official use was Anne refusing royal assent to a bill in 1708).
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Male 7,839
gerry, okay, that makes sense now.

chadders42, thats the english national anthem? i`m pretty sure we stole that music for one of our songs.
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Male 12,365
[quote]Yea, not that we didn`t found this country on getting away from monarchical institutions.[/quote]

If that was the case, you`ve failed abysmally. The USA is more into it than the UK, you`re just using different symbols. Flag instead of crown, more or less. Or maybe flag and anthem. As several people have said, imagine the fallout if the UK PM spoke over the USA anthem. Or a USA flag ceremony.

I don`t regard it as a big deal - as I see it, he made a minor misjudgement in foreign protocol with a friendly country. No big deal, it`s not a ropey political situation where insults are easily assumed and even a slight misstep can cause problems.
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Male 171
@cobrakiller It`s generally accepted you don`t talk over the national anthem... of any country
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Male 40,221

@cobrakiller - you should make all the compliments first and finish with "To the Queen" as it`s the orchestra`s cue to start.
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Male 12,365
[quote]The monarchy should be toppled, they`re useless to the modern world.[/quote]

We make a billion a year profit off them. Are you going to pay that billion a year instead? No? Then even on a purely financial level you`re talking crap.

Politically, they provide a stabilising influence.

Culturally, they are are of our heritage.

There is no rational reason for getting rid of them, only kneejerk reactions from people who don`t know the facts.
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Male 40,221

jeepjones - "The monarchy should be toppled, they`re useless to the modern world"

you are so wrong and you don`t want to get me started.
the rest of IAB doesn`t want you to get me started on this topic

Last time, FancyLad sent 4 strapping big guys to shut me up.
she is your queen, you don`t get a choice so Click Here
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Male 7,839
so, are you not supposed to give the speech until the music stops, make your speech long enough to fill the musical time, or just wait to raise your glass until the music stops? i dont know much about british royal customs.
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Male 266
I agree, screw the monarchy, they are useless, and should have all their war spoils taken away by the state.
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Male 554
The monarchy should be toppled, they`re useless to the modern world.
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Male 40,221

The Queen later that night to Prince Phillip,

"Bloody colonials!"
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Male 56
I felt sooo bad for President Obama. He spoke well and was trying to be respectful. I would want to dry up into a husk and blow away...
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Female 4,225
aw lol, poor Obama left hanging by HM the Queen

Also in the words of Sean Connery: Different cultures, different customs
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Male 3,894
*shrugs* They tried to cut him off. F*ck `em.
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Male 235
Imagine what would happen if someone visiting the US spoke during the national anthem.
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Male 1,526
They should have tasered him.
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Male 1,122
Royalty:

The right to look down my nose at you because I had a better sperm donor.
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Male 505
[quote]i hate royal people and their petty bull.[/quote]

Hardly limited to royalty.
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Female 1,893
HHH one guy almost had a hernia, this is so undoubtfully awkward i hate royal people and their petty bull..
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Male 505
[quote]didn`t make a bit of difference, everyone who saw it simply shook their heads and muttered what a fool.[/quote]

I was cringing so badly.
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Male 1,265
I think the anthem playing through his speech made it more dramatic... I bet she`s heard it enough times to be fed up with it and was thankful for the entertainment of him speaking over it. :P
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Male 231
I love the Queen, and andynaylor is right
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Male 10,338
"everyone who saw it simply shook their heads and muttered what a fool." LOL!

It doesn`t matter if the Anthem started early. If he wasn`t finished, he should have shut up.
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Male 1,931
Yea, not that we didn`t found this country on getting away from monarchical institutions. Can`t say I blame him.
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Male 40,221

Doesn`t he have people to explain protocol?

He wasn`t done with the toast when the music started.
But he should have known that you end a toast "to the queen" not start one.
And he should have known NOT to talk over their national anthem.

On their first visit it was Michelle who flubbed the etiquite.

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Male 239
The irony of this being, if the role was reversed and the English prime minister attempted to lead a toast through the american national anthem certain aspects of the american people would be up in arms about it being the ultimate mark of disrespect... here in the uk... didn`t make a bit of difference, everyone who saw it simply shook their heads and muttered what a fool.
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Male 2,552
hahahahahahahaha
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Female 262
OOO, OO the pain, it`s so painful to watch!
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Male 1,557
He didn`t flub anything, the guards came in too soon with the anthem, thinking he`d finished, so he kept going as he hadn`t finished, then stopped at a suitable point.
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Male 868
Link: Obama Flubs Toast To Queen Elizabeth [Rate Link] - Way to represent homie! The Queens look at :30 second mark is priceless!
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