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    half-a-life Male 13-17
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:39 am
    Link: Louis CK On Gay Marriage - He makes a lot of sense... and yes, your kid will be ugly.
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    BrimstoneOne Male 30-39
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:44 am
    LOL, awesome!
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    fiveanthems Male 18-29
    49 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 8:45 am
    Somewhere in between his dick jokes, there is such profundity.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:48 am
    this made me lol.

    spot on Louis spot on.
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    Justin9235 Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:51 am
    Lol agreed!
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    Wizensilver Male 13-17
    405 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 8:52 am
    Brilliantly put.
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    meepmaker Male 30-39
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:59 am
    Gotta love Louis !
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    ladycroft218 Female 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 9:14 am
    Well said Sir.
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    godthaab Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 9:22 am
    Uh, no, my kids have nothing to do with it. They can`t get married for other reasons.
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    Ascaris Male 18-29
    47 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:24 am
    The following line is "who drating cares about your pooty kid ? He`s probably a faggot anyway..."
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    DarkFerret Male 18-29
    2750 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:36 am
    Yea, makes sense man.
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    kangoala Male 18-29
    702 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:45 am
    But what about the follow-up two minute talk about lesbians??? It adds up people!
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    CoffeeDiiva Female 40-49
    1605 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:46 am
    Love Louie, I remember watching him do this on stand up.. too too funny
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    Nocciolina Female 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 9:47 am
    I have to show this to some people I know
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    MrTwidget Male 30-39
    795 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:52 am
    When the whole gay marriage thing started I thought it was a joke. Had no idea they would dispute something so insignificant.
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    Ender27 Male 18-29
    104 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:20 am
    I dont get it how gay marriage bothers anybody..
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    erick0619 Male 18-29
    148 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:30 am
    he is one funny dude watch his stand up if you haven`t so already
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Gays are free to get married in all 50 states in the USA a slong as they marry someone of the opposite sex...since marriage is defined as being between 1 man and 1 woman. It can be 1 gay man to 1 lesbian woman and there you go, a married gay couple.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
    559 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:53 am
    "Gays are free to get married in all 50 states in the USA a slong as they marry someone of the opposite sex...since marriage is defined as being between 1 man and 1 woman. It can be 1 gay man to 1 lesbian woman and there you go, a married gay couple."

    Now THERE is an example of weakening the institution of marriage.
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    Creabhain Male 40-49
    440 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 11:04 am
    I know two guys who are getting hitched here in Ireland. That`s going to be an interresting wedding. They sure know how to have fun at a party (non sexual fun that is!).
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    VictoryRider Male 40-49
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    May 12, 2011 at 11:15 am
    I don`t know, I think I like Jamie Kennedy`s take on it better (from "Uncomfortable").
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Take a look at the picture below,
    then tell me again how gay people are ruining marriage.


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    TuggSpeedman Male 18-29
    79 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    this sounds just about right to me
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    Pindragon Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 12:13 pm
    Epic win.

    Random: I like the dude`s tie down there.|
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    DixxyRarr Female 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 12:23 pm
    I find him horrifyingly funny. And I like it!
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    Heureux Male 40-49
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    May 12, 2011 at 12:25 pm
    BigDaddyJeff

    You clearly do not understand the meaning of the word freedom.

    There was a time when blacks were allowed to marry, as long as they married someone else who was black.

    It isn`t freedom, bigot, when a jerk like you can tell who I can and cannot marry. It isn`t freedom when my right to enter into a contract to protect the person I love is hindered by a delusional, egomaniac like yourself who believes that he actually has any input in my life.

    You cannot make yourself a decent, useful human being by abusing anyone, no matter how hard you try. The harder you try to be superior by tearing us down, the worse you become.
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    Fatninja01 Male 30-39
    25407 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    eek.
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    ChrisMunich Male 18-29
    383 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    I find it silly that it bothers people so much when two same-gendered people like each other. This was spot on.
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:08 pm
    @Heureux
    I do understand freedom but freedom does not mean that you have the right to destroy an institution that has been in place since the beginning of time.
    God created marriage for procreation, so that sex would not be an immoral act but one of love between a man and a woman for the purpose of being fruitful and multiplying as He dictated.
    Marriage is not for the convenience of anyone that wants to try and make their immoral life more moral and this goes for a man and a woman that have no plans to procreate as well as homosexuals that can not procreate.
    If two people get married and find they are unable to have children that is one thing but two people that have no intention of having children should not get married.
    Sex is a priveledge of marriage, we are not mindless animals that are unable to subdue our `urges`.
    God did not mean for everyone to marry, many of Jesus` disciples remained single and celibate their entire lives.
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:16 pm
    and my original post was supposed to show how absurd it is for gays to even think about getting `married`
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    AntEconomist Male 40-49
    339 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    "...freedom does not mean that you have the right to destroy an institution that has been in place since the beginning of time."

    Get a grip BigDaddy. If gays said that you *can`t* get married then they would be destroying an institution. In fact, that`s precisely what you`re saying to them.
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    evanbartlett Male 30-39
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:26 pm
    "God created marriage for procreation, so that sex would not be an immoral act but one of love between a man and a woman for the purpose of being fruitful and multiplying as He dictated."

    This is a semantic issue; and the problem is understanding the difference between morals and ethics. Gay marriage can be defined as "immoral," in that morality is determined by the home-space. Ethics, however, are determined by cultural norms. And American cultural norms increasingly favor freedom over theocracy. One should feel free to teach their children whatever they want in the context of one`s family values, but institutionalizing those home and hearth values in the public space demeans the very notion of what it means to be a modern freedom-focused Republic.
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    Spellwarrior Male 18-29
    45 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    Stop posting stuff like this and stirring up a poostorm.
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    nadia61 Female 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:28 pm
    @BigDaddyJeff
    That`s totally logical and can be applied to everyday life....... if you`re of that religious belief. Which many people aren`t. Don`t make assumptions!
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    "If gays said that you *can`t* get married then they would be destroying an institution. In fact, that`s precisely what you`re saying to them."

    Not at all, gays do not have the right to get married in the first place so their insistance on trying to force their views onto marriage would be to destroy that institution.

    I have no problem with gays, just like I have no problem with drunkards or drug addicts. Sin is sin and we are ALL guilty of it, including myself, but I do not flaunt my sin openly and ask everyone to say it is normal.
    Gays do and it is time they stopped it.
    Homosexuality is NOT normal and someone that feels like they have those tendencies need to repent and ask God to help them keep from that destructive behavior just as I ask God to help me turn away from my own sin every day.
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    Kivaen Male 18-29
    90 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    THE BIBLE IS A BOOK ABOUT GOD,NOT ABOUT SEXUALITY.
    GROW UP CHILDREN. ACCEPT IT.
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    Kernel Male 18-29
    123 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:34 pm
    Marriage has existed before the Bible, Big Daddy Jeff.

    Even if it was, this country isn`t a theocracy, so it`s a moot point.
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    Machida Male 18-29
    24 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    Everyone should stop attacking BigDaddyJeff. He has as much a right to an opinion as everyone else.
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    Winter_ICE_0 Male 13-17
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:35 pm
    If two people love each other and want to be together forever and you support preventing them from doing that in any way, shape, or form you are a bad person. No exceptions.
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    @ Machida - thanks for the support but I am a big boy and I expect to be attacked for espousing my faith. Jesus said it would be like that and I accept it.

    @Kivaen - The Bible has a lot to say about sex and sexuality and since it is the "instruction manaul" for life and how to live I try my best to follow it`s directions.

    @Winter_ICE_0 - I have no problem with two people that love each other and want to be together forever from doing that. Thay are welcome to live with each other and do whatever they want to do in the privacy of theuir own home but do not ask to get "married" as marriage is a religious institution created by God.

    @ Kernel - the country does not have to be a theocracy for me to stand up for what marriage means.
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    xiquiripat Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    Big Daddy is right you know: Marriage is about passing ownership of women from fathers to husbands. Now how the hell is that supposed to work when nobody has a vagina!? It`s madness!
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    Kernel Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:49 pm
    Marriage has existed for more than four thousand years, well before the existence of Christianity.

    And if they`re your beliefs, by all means stand up for them, but don`t say they cannot be made into objective law because the Bible says so.
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:54 pm
    AKernel - You are right. Marriage has existed since the beginning of time because in the beginnig God created Man and then He created Woman and God performed the first marriage ceremony when he bade them be fruitful and multiply.
    I never said marriage had anything to do with Christianity, silly.
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    fiveanthems Male 18-29
    49 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm
    @BigDaddyJeff

    Marriage came before the Bible. It was not created by your faith, you are not even among the first few who thought of it or did it. If we are going to be looking for guidance on the purpose or guidelines of marriage, we should be asking polytheists. You don`t get to take over the concept because you like it.

    About 50% of marriages end in divorce. It`s not exactly a sacred institution. And beyond that, most gays aren`t asking Christ for permission to marry, they are looking to get legally defined unions to one another through the US government. The US government is not supposed to be giving preferential treatment towards any religion or belief.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    @ BigDaddyJeff -OMG! You have to be trolling, right? Well good job of it! But in case you are not, let`s go over this...

    "freedom does not mean that you have the right to destroy an institution that has been in place since the beginning of time. "
    No, It was invented much later than the beginning of time, unless you think amoeba get wed?

    Since it`s invention, it`s had many forms but since you are a "traditionalist" I`m assuming you will take 3 or 4 wives as endorsed by the bible?

    As for the Bible... Show me Photos or it didn`t happen!!!

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    Kernel Male 18-29
    123 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 1:59 pm
    You believe that, I don`t.

    Therefore we must make laws based on facts alone, and the facts say there`s nothing wrong with marrying a man.

    It`s not like they will be married in churches or anything, so relax.
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    fiveanthems Male 18-29
    49 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 2:06 pm
    @bigdaddyjeff

    So, you think your religion has the right to define a concept because the notion predates the Bible, so you think it`s invalid?
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    mal_BB Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 2:09 pm
    Ummm pretty sure the concept of marriage pre dates Christianity..unless of course you worship one of the many ancient greek gods that is.

    Back on topic though, how is it that the true voice of reason usually comes from people who make people laugh for a living? Why can`t everyone have this sort of logic? Would the world not be a happier place?
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 2:13 pm
    @fiveanthems - I know marriage came before the bibile because the bible was not given to man until several thousand years after God created everything.
    Divorce also did not come into being until several thousand years after the creation after man had rebelled against God and His ways and Moses gave divorce to his people against God`s wishes in order to appease the masses.
    I understand that most gays are not asking for Jesus` permission to marry but some are and since many churches are turning against God`s ways and allowing homosexuals to act as clergy in the church it is only a matter of time before gay weddings will be performed in churches.

    @Gerry1of1 - No, I am not trolling. I am well aware of your stance on homosexuality as oyu have portrayed it on these boards many times.

    I believe in creation, not evolution so your silly comment about amoeba getting married is just that, silly.
    Also, I will take as many wives as I want and that the law of the land
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    ihurtmyself Male 30-39
    361 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    marriage is stupid; why do we need a piece of paper to express our legal interest in sticking stuff in the same person until we die?
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    @ BigDaddyJeff

    Well kudos to you for taking your stance without resorting to baser insults. {That`s my specialty}

    I disagree...but I believe in free speach so have your say. Not easy being the minorty voice, is it.

    But if you could clarify for me;
    if your views of marriage are faith based, why do you think your faith should be imposed on other people?
    And if it`s okay to force others to live by your religious rules, what other faiths should be allowed to turn their Belief into Law and would you submit to them?

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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    P.S. silly is good :-D
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    idiotfilter Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    Louis Ck, George Carlin...

    they always say it like it is....comedians need to be more like these guys
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    mogman45 Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 2:52 pm
    its because we have to vote aye or nay on this issue
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    samidoll Female 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 3:10 pm
    i enjoy the bumper sticker that says "if they can`t marry, we can`t get divorced"

    really, it`s not your business, and it has nothing to do with you, even if you have a faith that says not to do it. then don`t do it! problem solved.

    love you, louis ck <3
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    obeydarklord Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 3:11 pm
    @ihurtmyself
    guess you haven`t heard of this whole new thing people are doing called "swinging" it`s quite fun really.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 3:18 pm
    @Winter_ICE_0 - I have no problem with two people that love each other and want to be together forever from doing that. Thay are welcome to live with each other and do whatever they want to do in the privacy of theuir own home but do not ask to get "married" as marriage is a religious institution created by God.

    That right there is why you`re wrong, provably and objectively.

    Marriage is a social institution created by humans. That can be verified throughout recorded history and there`s no evidence to believe it was different before then.

    Your religion only managed to seize control of marriage in order to further increase its already bloated power in the very late middle ages and lost it just a scant few centuries later.

    For example, English law only required Christian approval of a marriage for less than 100 years and even that was only really due to conflict between Christian sects.
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    BigDaddyJeff Male 40-49
    368 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 3:19 pm
    @Gerry1of1
    I do not think my faith should be legally imposed on anyone but by the same token I do not want my faith trampled on by others in the name of `freedom`. I do not think that asking for gays to have their unions called something other than a marriage is imposing my faith on others.

    Also, I am not asking for others to live by my religious rules and I would not want others to ask me to live by their religious rules.
    I believe that we all have to live the way we want to live.
    I believe this universe and all things in it were created by a loving God that wants us all to live according to His plan. He knows that is impossible because we all have freedom of choice and that means we have the freedom to choose to rebel against His ways.
    He knew this would happen but He sent his son Jesus to attone for the sins of everyone, past, present and future so we could all have life eternal with Him.
    Mostly, Gerry, just know that God loves you and because of that
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 12, 2011 at 3:21 pm
    Ah, I see that BigDaddyJeff is a YEC. No point trying reason with him then, as he has chosen to reject reason.

    I suppose I could argue within a purely Christian framework, as the correct Christian stance on homosexuality is far less clear than he thinks it is, but I doubt if any YEC is able to change their mind about anything.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 12, 2011 at 3:32 pm
    So let`s consider the word `marriage`. Its etymology can be reliably traced to pre-Christian Rome.

    It therefore follows that if the word `marriage` is to be attached to a religion, that religion must be the state religion of Rome before it was conquered by Christianity.

    But...religion wasn`t required in marriage in ancient Rome except for the conferratio form of marriage, which was only ever used by nobility and clergy and not for long even by them. By far the most common form of marriage in pre-Christian Rome (where the word `marriage` comes from, remember) was usus and that was marriage by statement and/or behaviour. Religious ceremonies were often carried out to bless the marriage, but they were not the marriage.

    And that`s how it`s been almost all the time. For example, the English word for the act of becoming married is `wedding`. It means `to vow`, from the OE `weddian`. *That`s* what marriage is - a vow.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 12, 2011 at 3:39 pm
    really, it`s not your business, and it has nothing to do with you, even if you have a faith that says not to do it. then don`t do it! problem solved.

    That`s also not true, because after homosexual marriages are made legal there will be campaigning to force religious groups to give official religious approval to homosexual marriages, on sacred ground.

    Remember that we`re talking about people who are group advocates, not people who are advocating equality (although they will often lie about that so they can abuse people`s sense of fairness). So they will continue to advocate more and more for their favoured group, because that`s what group advocates are for.

    Homosexual marriages are legal in the UK. Guess what the homosexual group advocates are campaigning for now? No surprise - it`s for superior marriage rights, including a right to religion in a legal marriage (a right that heterosexuals don`t have).
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    ultimakewl Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 3:50 pm
    the way i see it is marriage is a right. and it became a right when married couples got rights and privileges that non-married couples didnt. therefor any human of legal age should be able to marry any other human of legal age. i understand that originally marriage was a religious term and union but no ones asking the religions to perform the wedding ceremonies. they only want marriage under the law, not under your god or your beliefs. if you want it called something different then all marriages should be called that under the law. but no matter what its called it should be available to EVERYONE.
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    fiveanthems Male 18-29
    49 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 3:57 pm
    @Bigdaddyjeff
    "I do not think my faith should be legally imposed on anyone but by the same token I do not want my faith trampled on by others in the name of `freedom`"

    If marriage existed independently of christianity, it is not solely your belief. Marriage is just a word that describes a social construct. It`s like the word "god," which can refer to other deities, but also yours. If it is SOLELY something that your religion used and thought of, it is all yours as a word, but since it is NOT the case with marriage, you don`t get to make up the rules or use, or say that other people using it are trampling on your beliefs. They just want to be able to get health plans together and visit one another in the hospital.
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    5Cats Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 4:01 pm
    (must not comment! must not comment!)

    (Hey! @Angilion`s doing pretty good for himself, making strong points & stuff!)

    (phew! I can safely stay out of this one... for now)
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    piperfawn Male 30-39
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    May 12, 2011 at 4:22 pm
    5cats is exploding! Please do your comment ....to much stress is dangerous at your age. XD
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    planty Female 30-39
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    May 12, 2011 at 5:12 pm
    if they want the headache of filing for a divorce who cares? how many people do you know that are opposite sex and NOT married.. I don`t care and can not see why others care one way or the other.
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    @ BigDaddyJeff

    "I do not think my faith should be legally imposed on anyone"
    You want marriage laws to reflect or mimic your faith-based definition of marriage, forcing me to live/marry within your faith-based limits, but you don`t see how you are imposing your faith on me?

    "but by the same token I do not want my faith trampled on by others in the name of `freedom`."

    Because I do something that is not condoned in your faith, does not mean I am trampling on it. I would defend your right to follow your faith, yet you deny me the right not to.

    "I do not think that asking for gays to have their unions called something other than a marriage is imposing my faith on others. "

    OIC! One of those "Back of the bus goes to the same place as the Front" kinda things. - Got`cha.

    Bid D-J - Your statements were all used to justify why White people should not marry Black people.
    Just unnatural you
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    Willsk84food Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 5:57 pm
    Religion is for morons.
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    leStrange09 Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    as a gay man myself i am asking, why the hell is this even an issue? Why should the entire world subdivide itself because of a stupid opinion on sexual preference? It is just as ridiculous and idiotic as segregating a community of people that love the color blue. Im not bashing or hating on homophobes or religious nuts, because i also hate the other gays who are all `omg im gay were here were queer now get used to it, let us get married and raise lots of issues and cause arguments and things because we love the man meat`... those people are idiots dont listen to them, they are obviously like alot of the rest of the world and just love major drama in thier lives.

    And as an Atheist i refuse to press my non-beliefs on people, religiously like minded people should not be allowed to do the same. you cant say your not allowed to get married to someone of the same sex because MY god says your not allowed to, and i dont care if you dont believe in him your still not allowed too. Its
  70. Profile photo of Kaleotera
    Kaleotera Female 18-29
    472 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 6:45 pm
    I have always held the belief that if two people (straight or gay) love each other, that they should have the choice to get married or not. I am sure we all know a few straight couples that choose not to get married.

    I think that people use their faith/religion and/or their kids as an excuse to not accept something they don`t like.
    When I was about 10 years old I saw two gay men holding hands walking down the street. I questioned my dad about this and he told me: "Those two men are gay. Being gay means that you love someone who is the same sex as you are."
    That whole conversation did not traumatize me and if anything it made me a more open minded person.

    As far as religion goes. What other people do shouldn`t be such a huge inconvenience on your faith. Your faith is between you and whatever god you believe in. If your relationship with your god cannot weather other peoples lives, then I think you should re-evaluate your faith.
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    leStrange09 Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 6:50 pm
    @BigDaddyJeff you sir, are a narrow minded idiot. I just read you `Being gay is not normal and it is a sin` comment. It is people like you that started this marriage issue in the first place.

    Also sex is not a privelage of marriage. I`m not married and i f***ed my parter HARD last night... next time we do it, ill think about you and send you my condolences via telepathy >:D
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    Gerry1of1 Male 50-59
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    May 12, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    @ leStrange09 - "@BigDaddyJeff you sir, are a narrow minded idiot. It is people like you that started this marriage issue in the first place."

    Fortunately, being stupid is not a crime. You are free to go.

    He has a right to his opinion, don`t call him an idiot for voicing it.

    In point of fact, it is people like ME that stated the marriage debate, not him. In the 80`s and 90`s me and my GUTS friends {Gay Urban Truth Squad} would go on Valentines day and apply for marriage licenses to make the statement we should be allowed to marry.

    20`s years later, turns out I don`t really give a crap about getting married, but still think we should have the right to.

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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 8:21 pm
    @jackchi041
    Go f*ck yourself
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 8:24 pm
    CK want`s to get political now. Maybe he doesn`t realize that Christians feel the need to preach and save you from your own destruction. That`s how I explain such to my kids. FREE AGENCY BE DAMNED!
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    Ani187 Female 30-39
    4448 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    He is so effing right.
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    leStrange09 Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    @Gerry1of1 im am the first to admit im an idiot so i spose your right and i cant condemn him for that, but you know why i lashed out and attacked him right? voicing an opinion and using religious beliefs to fall back on is a very shallow argument.. because god/jesus/allah/buddha said so isnt a good point.

    @handys003 if we want to be destroyed, we will be. Don`t accost me in my home or while im walking down the street and tell me Jesus died for my sins, just let me walk by and drink my coffee in peace.
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    collegebound Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 8:42 pm



    `nuff said...
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    Garu Male 30-39
    562 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    Go away kid, you bother me. Done.
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    Kalimata Male 30-39
    661 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 9:30 pm
    Who knows, perhaps because I`m Canadian, I don`t understand because it`s a U.S. thang. Perhaps it`s because I follow a spiritual path that has no problems whatsoever with same sex marriage, I don`t get it. But I have to ask, what`s the big deal? Seriously? Are you people so afraid that your conviction within your faith is so weak that the great Christian church, or the mighty U.S.A. are going to collapse because two same sex adults get married? Is the belief that you, the righteous, are going to heaven, and the gays are going to hell not enough?

    Or is it that maybe, just maybe, people who disagree with your point of view might prove that the "Chicken Little" scenarios resulting from gay marriage are wrong. If they prove your ideas about gays wrong, perhaps your ideas about other things might be wrong. Holy crap, you might have to question your whole moral philosophy...

    THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!
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    Abandonnez Male 18-29
    229 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:16 pm
    Thanks Lewis C.K., new found respect!
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:23 pm
    @Kalimata
    What are you smoking brah? I want some.
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    handys003 Male 50-59
    2402 posts
    May 12, 2011 at 10:26 pm
    @leStrange09
    @handys003 if we want to be destroyed, we will be. Don`t accost me in my home or while im walking down the street and tell me Jesus died for my sins, just let me walk by and drink my coffee in peace.

    Well newbie normally I would come back with a slam. However since your new and unfamiliar with my style. It was sarcasm in relation toward Christians talking about free agency, but in reality it doesn`t exist as they try to control your freedom through projected salvation.

    In otherwords your free to do what you want so long as it`s in our terms of doctrine. Got it now newb? BTW I`m athiest.

    Now in regards to your cup of coffee:




    Sorry couldn`t help myself. It`s in my nature to slam.
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    SuperOnion Male 18-29
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    May 12, 2011 at 11:47 pm
    Louis C.K. is pretty darn hilarious.

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    davymid Male 30-39
    12151 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 1:04 am
    Said the Young Earth Creationist fundamentalist Christian vocally opposing gay marriage:

    Also, I am not asking for others to live by my religious rules
    Ah, the irony of this is truly delicious.

    I`ve said it before, I`ll say it again: "Don`t like gay marriage? Then shut the f*ck up and don`t get one".
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    leStrange09 Male 18-29
    10 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 2:24 am
    @handys003 Winning, coffee.... my fault for not picking up on the sarcasm, ive got better things to do than troll forums al day anyway, enjoy the never ending debate guys.
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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 4:15 am
    @Angilion

    "That`s also not true, because after homosexual marriages are made legal there will be campaigning to force religious groups to give official religious approval to homosexual marriages, on sacred ground."

    What the hell are you basing that assumption on?

    "Homosexual marriages are legal in the UK."

    No they`re not. We have civil partnerships. They are equal to, but not the same as, marriage.

    Get a clue. You are talking out of your arse.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 8:17 am
    "I`ve said it before, I`ll say it again: `Don`t like gay marriage? Then shut the f*ck up and don`t get one.`"

    Let`s apply your logic to other religiously sensitive issues.

    "Don`t like divorce? Then shut the f*ck up and don`t get one."

    Or how about:

    "Don`t like pictures of Muhammad? Then shut the f*ck up and don`t get one."

    It isn`t the fact that it directly affects you, it is the fact that it trivializes the institution. Marriage used to be important, and day by day it becomes more and more insignificant. That offends people of every religion.

    My question is, why do gay people care so much about it?
  88. Profile photo of RETARDEDBEAR
    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 8:20 am
    "What the hell are you basing that assumption on?"

    The rest of the post explained it, I believe.

    "They are equal to, but not the same as, marriage."

    Equal to but not the same as? Well, which is it?
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    Megalo Male 18-29
    59 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 8:38 am
    If you`re anti-gay marriage, then you better be prepared to stone every gay man/woman you see to death, because that`s what the bible calls for.

    It also forbids long hair, sex in general, clothing with different kinds of material, and trimming hair on sides of beard or sides of head.

    If you`re willing to break those rules and if all sin is equal, then why are you hung up about homosexualtiy?

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    Musuko42 Male 18-29
    2850 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 8:55 am
    @RETARDEDBEAR

    "The rest of the post explained it, I believe."

    Supporting one unsupported statement with another?

    Show your sources. You get an F.

    "Equal to but not the same as? Well, which is it?"

    I`m not sure how I can explain it any better...not when you`re entering the conversation without the prior understanding that "equal to" and "the same as" are not necessarily synonyms.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
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    May 13, 2011 at 9:25 am
    "Supporting one unsupported statement with another?

    Show your sources. You get an F."

    I only get 1000 characters here bub. The sentence following the one you quoted said gays in the UK are fighting "for superior marriage rights, including a right to religion in a legal marriage." Just read the whole post next time.

    "not when you`re entering the conversation without the prior understanding that `equal to` and `the same as` are not necessarily synonyms."

    They are synonyms. You are literally saying it is "the same as marriage, but not the same."
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 9:27 am
    "If you`re anti-gay marriage, then you better be prepared to stone every gay man/woman you see to death, because that`s what the bible calls for."

    You are making the supposition that anybody opposed to gay marriage is opposed to it because they take everything in the Bible literally. That is obviously not the case.
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    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 10:15 am
    It isn`t the fact that it directly affects you, it is the fact that it trivializes the institution. Marriage used to be important, and day by day it becomes more and more insignificant. That offends people of every religion.

    My question is, why do gay people care so much about it?

    So how does gay marriage have anything to do with trivialising marriage? I`m really confused as to why you think gay marriage trivialises marriage in any way.

    As to why gay people care about having marriage, i can`t answer that because i`m not gay, hell i don`t even want a "normal" marriage! However why should they not be allowed to get married?
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    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 10:17 am
    You are making the supposition that anybody opposed to gay marriage is opposed to it because they take everything in the Bible literally. That is obviously not the case.

    However those that do oppose gay marriage based on the bible yet ignore the majority of the other sins should stop hiding behind their religion and own up to the fact that they just don`t like gays.
  95. Profile photo of RETARDEDBEAR
    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 11:29 am
    "I`m really confused as to why you think gay marriage trivialises marriage in any way."

    Because up until the last century, when you asked someone what marriage is, they would tell you it is a union between a man and a woman. Now, that definition is being broadened to a union between a man and a woman, a man and a man, or a woman and a woman. To religious people, that in itself is inherently offensive, and makes a joke of marriage.

    "However why should they not be allowed to get married?"

    They can get married... to someone of the opposite sex, just like everyone else.
  96. Profile photo of Reganom
    Reganom Male 18-29
    505 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 11:49 am
    To religious people, that in itself is inherently offensive, and makes a joke of marriage.

    As has been pointed out marriage predates modern religion, and is not exclusive to those of belief. So the fact that relgious people are offended doesn`t make a mockery of marriage.

    Because up until the last century, when you asked someone what marriage is, they would tell you it is a union between a man and a woman. Now, that definition is being broadened to a union between a man and a woman, a man and a man, or a woman and a woman

    So? Definitions change, and even then i don`t think we have the knowledge to determine that at the invention of marriage it was defined as man and woman *only*. The fact that some people used to view it as between a man and a woman doesn`t mean much. To me marriage is a way of showing your love, and making a commitement, to celebrate and vow before your friends and family that love.

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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    "So the fact that relgious people are offended doesn`t make a mockery of marriage."

    The fact that it is a social institution doesn`t mean that it is a secular institution. Also, marriage may predate "modern" religion, but it certainly does not predate religion itself.

    "So? Definitions change"

    They do, but when you are talking about something as important as marriage, they don`t change easily. I`m trying to get across the reason it offends religious people.

    I, personally, do not actually care whether or not they are allowed to marry. I don`t want anybody telling me how I should marry, and I don`t want to tell anybody how they should marry. When it comes to taxpayer money and status under the government, however, the people do have a say.
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    imnakdjumpme Male 18-29
    598 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 1:44 pm
    marriage started as a contract to show that you owned this woman as property. in rome and africa, (mainly), men were marrying men and women, it didnt matter. In america, polygamy was practiced and legal for a while in the beginning and it was still mainly to show that the woman was your property. now marriage mean something different to every single person; some do it for money, for love or for a green card. the govt should have no business in the marriage business. they should only recognize who is responsible for any kids. They should not be allowed to say this adult is not allowed to marry this other adult. i hear the excuse that we are a christian nation that defines married by the christian beliefs. if we are basing our model of marriage off the most recent version of christianity, then should muslims not be allowed to marry, or people that arent religous be allowed? no. because marriage is whatever the hell you or i think it is. unless youre gay
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    NoxasRisen Male 13-17
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    May 13, 2011 at 1:53 pm
    ...wouldn`t Jesus be nice to homosexuals? That`s kind of his thing...
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    Angilion Male 40-49
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    May 13, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    marriage started as a contract to show that you owned this woman as property.

    Can you support that statement? With some actual evidence, not just the usual historical revisionism.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 5:56 pm
    in rome and africa, (mainly), men were marrying men and women, it didnt matter.

    It mattered in Rome and Africa is far too large and varied for anything to be true for all of it.

    The main issue in Rome was whether it was unmanly to be penetrated by another man. It wasn`t the homosexuality per se that was an issue (the concept of homosexuality didn`t really apply as we use the word - Latin didn`t even have a word with the same meaning), but the manliness. Although that issue lessened over time, possibly due to increasing Greek influences, it remained. For example, Caesar`s political career was hampered by his relationship with the king of Bythinia. Not because they were both men, but because (according to rumour), Caesar was "receiving".
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 5:58 pm
    The sentence following the one you quoted said gays in the UK are fighting "for superior marriage rights, including a right to religion in a legal marriage." Just read the whole post next time.

    I suggest you take your own advice, because what you`ve just stated is *extremely* different to what I actually wrote.
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    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 6:04 pm
    What the hell are you basing that assumption on?

    i) The campaign for exactly that which is quietly achieving success.

    ii) The fact that every group advocacy ideology that has ever existed has been a group advocacy ideology. Which should be obvious, but sadly isn`t because some of them lie well enough to fool enough people.

    "Homosexual marriages are legal in the UK."

    No they`re not. We have civil partnerships. They are equal to, but not the same as, marriage.

    Get a clue. You are talking out of your arse.

    The fact that you dislike me pointing out the truth does not stop it being the truth.

    Civil partnerships are marriages (find out what the word `marriage` means - you`ll look less silly that way) and they are legally defined as being identical in every respect to heterosexual secular marriages.

    When you insult me for being right, you`re just making a fool of yourself.
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 13, 2011 at 9:57 pm
    "I suggest you take your own advice, because what you`ve just stated is *extremely* different to what I actually wrote."

    Here is what you said:

    "Homosexual marriages are legal in the UK. Guess what the homosexual group advocates are campaigning for now? No surprise - it`s for superior marriage rights, including a right to religion in a legal marriage (a right that heterosexuals don`t have)."

    And here is what I said:

    "The sentence following the one you quoted said gays in the UK are fighting `for superior marriage rights, including a right to religion in a legal marriage.`

    Where is the extreme difference, if you please?
  105. Profile photo of Angilion
    Angilion Male 40-49
    12390 posts
    May 14, 2011 at 2:57 am
    Where is the extreme difference, if you please?

    I`m not sure if you`re serious, but I`m assuming you are because you quoted the relevant pieces of text rather than trying to obscure them.

    I`m not not sure how to go about the answer, because you`ve just quoted two pieces of text with radically different meanings and asked, apparently seriously, what the difference is. That`s weird.

    There`s a hell of a difference between a large group of people with a wide variety of views on a subject and a small group of people with very specific views on it, not all of whom are in the first group.

    Say, for example, someone referred to "fire and brimstone" style preachers in the USA, including those visiting from other countries.

    Is that the same as referring to all citizens of the USA?
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    blounsb999 Male 40-49
    183 posts
    May 14, 2011 at 6:04 am
    Angilion, It may not be `manly` to practice homosexuality but it is priestly as demonstrated time and time again. As for the difference between marriage and civil unions - we are going through that legal battle over here in the states.
    As a straight male I say: fine give them ALL the same legal rights and privileges through civil union. AND since the far Right is making such an issue out of it, and we do have implied separation of church and state, make EVERY couple have to go to the town hall for the same civil union. They can get married if they want to, but the legal part has to be done as the civil union. isn`t that how you do it over there?
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    unbwogable Male 18-29
    555 posts
    May 14, 2011 at 7:17 pm
    I may be slightly biased, but damn, if we wanna be miserable in marriage, let us!! lol
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    RETARDEDBEAR Male 18-29
    437 posts
    May 14, 2011 at 8:30 pm
    "There`s a hell of a difference between a large group of people with a wide variety of views on a subject and a small group of people with very specific views on it, not all of whom are in the first group."

    I simplified "homosexual group advocates" to "gays." Anyone with half a brain realizes that I am not saying "all gays," but rather "people who are gay." Get a grip.

    "Say, for example, someone referred to "fire and brimstone" style preachers in the USA, including those visiting from other countries.

    Is that the same as referring to all citizens of the USA?"

    That is not an accurate comparison. It would be like saying "Muslims destroyed the twin towers on 9/11." Obviously I would not be inferring that ALL Muslims destroyed the twin towers, just that those that did were Muslim.
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    PopCap Male 30-39
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    May 15, 2011 at 12:05 am
    Who uses f***ing as an identity, anyway? Morons.

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